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It should read:

We defend the Founding Founders, – but those who bring accusations against them to be disgraceful-

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Whatever your worldview is, it is yours, but for many of us, it is distasteful, and holds no value, or trustworthiness. Furthermore, it is not worthy of much more discussion. If you can’t accept this, so be it.

There have been many who have gone before in centuries past, or decades which have distorted the Founding Fathers intentions. We as American born citizens have come to recognize the signs, the distortion of facts.

We who bear the inheritance of our forebears understand the task of guarding the U.S.A. and its rich heritage as a gift of responsibility of which we don’t waiver, in fact we are humbled by our responsibility. GOD Almighty has blessed our nation, we humbly thank HIM for this gift which we enjoy as descendents of these men who took pen to paper to charge us to care for our country. We defend those who bring accusations against the Founding Founders, as disgraceful -

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Actually, the Unitarian and liberal Christian churches have become rather gray-haired and are in serious decline. See Jody Bottum’s piece on this, The Death of Protestant America: A Political Theory of the Protestant Mainline in a recent First Things Article. As to your neo-paganism, it is barely a blip on the radar screen of world views.

Orthodox and evangelical Christians in America as well as Africa, Latin America, and Asia are expanding exponentially and are the future of serious religion. The sexual “revolution” and radical secularism will very likely become historical relics.

It is far from a genetic fallacy to point out the very real connection between your views on the founding and interest in promoting neo-paganism and rather loose moral views.

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It’s like a Sabre Tooth Tiger evolving into a wildcat. Or perhaps even, a T. Rex evolving into a chicken. That said, the theistic rationalism of the key Founders has morphed into the Unitarian Universalism and liberal cafeteria Christianity of today. They, not the conservative evangelicals, are the true heirs to America’s Founding political theology.

Everything else that you and Victoria wrote is simple “poisoning the well/genetic fallacy.”

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You specialize, no one would argue with you on that, but that doesn’t make what you post correct and accurate -

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Rowe fancies himself to be a dispassionate scholar of the religious views of America’s leading founders. Actually, what he does for the most part is to scour the correspondence and other writings of the founders for any sign of religious doubt, which in the brief period of Deism’s influence in the late eighteenth century is like shooting fish in a barrel. He lacks the sort of depth and proportion of, say, a Tocqueville who in the 1830’s took a close look at America, including the secular strain, and concluded that on balance it was a profoundly Christian nation.

If the liberal minded Christian rationalists in the Eighteenth-Century could have known that their views would end up with the cloying sentimentality of Oprah Winfrey and the moral relativism of the Unitarian church that welcomes Wiccans and essentially advocates moral relativism, they would be appalled.

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And I have shown myself scrupulously honest and meticulous in research on these threads. I specialize in “cutting thru” the distortion of history that others are so adept in. Agree?

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There are scholars and then there are scholars. There are those who would distort whatever it is they want the subject matter to prove, its done all the time.

There are many who have PhD’s, that isn’t impressive as to the TRUTH. Many are very adept in distorting history.

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