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Solomon?
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A wise king?
Elvis.
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I noticed that if I click on the Comments link doesn’t work on the WorldMagBlog page. However, it does work on the Community page. No biggie – just pointing it out for the web wizard.
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Ecc. 10:19
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Sarah Palin’s speech will be the most watched in political convention history. I hope she doesn’t blow it.
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XION: I’m not finding a problem on our end on any of the pages. Which page are you referring to specifically: the main Community page showing the two columns of WMB and Commentary posts, or the single column WMB page? Also, what browser are you using? Thanks for your patience.
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Mickey:
For example, on this page: http://online.worldmag.com/cat/worldmagblog/
Clicking the “Comments” link brings you here:
http://online.worldmag.com/cat/worldmagblog/#comments
However, it’s not the comment page and clicking on the “Comments” link for today’s Whirled Views goes nowhere (same page). This is on Firefox 2.0.0.16 but it doesn’t look like a browser issue to me.
I can still click on the title of the post and get in here though.
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Re: #3
Same thing here. On the 2 column WorldMag.com Community page, I can click on the “Comments” and be able to view them, however, once I go to the single column “WorldMagBlog” page, when I click on the “Comments” that is on the right side at the top of the post, nothing happens. When I click on “Comments” at the bottom of the post, I can view the comments. I am using Firefox 3.0.1 as my browser.
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Thanks, guys. I now see which links you’re talking about. We’ll get it fixed soon. Thanks for pointing it out to us.
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Did y’all notice USC jumped to #1 in the AP and USA Today polls!?
What a day it will be in LA when Ohio state comes to town! We’ll take the train into Union Station, catch breakfast at the Pantry, take another gander at all those Heisman’s in Heritage hall, follow the Spirit of Troy over to the Coliseum and watch one of the best and decisive games of the season. And it’s only September. I love this time of year.
Oh, and did you know that if USC were its own country it would have ranked 13th in medals in Beijing? Just saying . . .
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Mickey, while you’re fixing, make it so we can click on the Gravitar and go to the blogs again. That’s the only way I have to get to some of them.
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Well, it’s hard to know where to go with such a provocative statement, Mrs. Adios . . .
Say hi to the coliseum for me; I can’t believe I haven’t been there since the opening ceremonies of the Olympics in 1984!
In my miserable summer cold delirium yesterday I read an interesting book on the order of Endurance (Shakelton’s epic story). This was called The Long Walk: The True Story of a Trek to Freedom by Slavomir Rawicz.
It tells the WWII story of Polish cavalry officer Rawicz’ escape from the Soviet Gulag with five others and their walk from northern Siberia to India! Aided by the sympathetic wife of the camp officer, “Just escape while my husband is away so he doesn’t get the blame,” the men spent nearly a year on their long hike–picking up an escaping Polish woman prisoner on the way, crossing the Gobi Desert without water and then up into Tibet.
The writing is not as good as Endurance, but the story truly amazing.
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Chas,
I always got to other people’s blogs by clicking on their name, not their gravatar. And that still works for me.
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Adios,
MUCH more importantly UCLA makes the AP list at 24
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I often say something or do something without realizing what my intuition is telling me until later.
I have been puzzling why many people post comments to wmb without being able to explain why they do so. Some people are able to provide reasonable explanations, but many cannot. A few post indignant complaints about my questioning them.
A while back, I took a six month break from wmb. I realized that I am addicted to participating here. My break was my way of saying, “I can stop any time I want,” a typical statement by addicts.
I now realize that many people who participate here are addicts. It’s something like being addicted to cigarettes, though it probably won’t ruin your lungs (though it might be hard on your marriage or relationship with other family members). I don’t smoke, though I tend to eat more than I should. (I have lost weight over the last six months though.)
Symptoms may include:
Inability to explain why you post.
Excessive frequency of posting. I’m guessing that more than 10 posts a day is a pretty good sign of this addiction. I am going to try limiting myself to no more than 10 posts a day. This might be something equivalent to smoking less than a pack a day.
Compulsion to engage in races to the bottom or other signs of bad temper, hostility and negativity. I am trying to post at least one race to the top (RTT) post a day among my 10 posts, though I’m not sure that this one qualifies. In my case, excessive joking and mirth is probably another sign, so I will try to post at least one serious post a day. For many other people, who seem to be humor-impaired, the prescription might be to post at least one humorous post a day, or at least laugh at something (not unkindly) at least once a day.
Are you addicted to wmb participation and commenting? How does your addiction manifest itself? Is it affecting others? Are you taking any action in regard to the addiction?
You may flame me for this post if it makes you feel better.
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LOL Random. For me its kind of like watching a train wreck at times, you just can’t look away. Many years ago now when I was in college and watching the Moral Majority and Christian Coalition do their thing, I told several friends that I thought in the end that what they were doing would be bad for the Church and would confuse Christians about their faith.
When I read posters here, I see that my fears were warranted as the movement has become much more virulent. Last night the republican convention featured a christian singer singing songs not about the country or patriotism but about her faith. There is a place for that — if the convention had wanted to hold a side event or even religious services as a side event every day, well good on them, but on the convention floor I believe the mixing of religion and politics is out of place and a symptom of just where mixing the two is taking the conservatives and along with them a once great party. It’s not Ronald Reagan’s party anymore.
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RN, I am addicted to free cell. I can’t log off without trying a game first.
PAULINE!, It works! I should have thought of that. I just clicked your name, and there it was.
Michelle, I read The Long Walk some time ago. Fascinating story. But it iritated me to know that these officers did not know how to find the north star, nor that they would have to cross a desert if they continued going directly south. (That part is more difficult because they may not have known their starting point.) It would have made their trek better if they could have traveled at night.
As for your post yesterday, you may have enjoyed the ending of the game, but surely you didn’t enjoy the way UCLA played.
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Oh Chas, only the first half. In the second half UCLA looked pretty good. And you have to fully credit the D and special teams in the first half for keeping them in the game.
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I shouldn’t say this as a USC fan, but what I liked about UCLA’s win was watching a QB who was at Mt. SAC last year get his legs on a ranked team. And I liked that Neuheisel (sp?) told him at halftime, “I threw four picks at the beginning of my career too.”
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To RN,
Hello. My name is Adios and I’m a blogaholic.
Except when I’m underdeadline and then I stay away for days.
Denial is the first stage, right?
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Mickey — Google chrome has the same issue with the top comment button as firefox.
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CB, I just hope the Vol’s play that way on 1 November. I suspect they won’t. I didn’t much care, but I like to see the SEC and Big 10 teams win, other things not a factor. Clemson made a good comeback to win their game against SC last year, but not that spectacular.
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#16 CB
Well,(as Ronny would say)
it certainly isn’t, never was and never will be your party so I would just forget all about it, be happy and quit complaining about things you will never ever have any control over.
It’s like your complaining about Christian reaction to gay issues on this blog. Christian’s are not going to ever accept lesbianism as being OK, natural or not a sin so get over it. We will be praying for you instead.
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Chas
Yeah, I think the Vols were surprised by the Bruin defense. I wonder if UCLA will wind up having one of the best D’s this year.
Llama
The complaint is really over the disappearance of a reasonable center in the republican party. I liked H.W. Bush on both his domestic and foreign policy fronts. I was ok with Reagan. I liked Dole.
As to the other, I’ve not said that I expected Christians on this blog would accept lesbsianism as being ok or natural or not a sin, but that I think the way the express themselves does not help make their case for being loving and all. Not sure why you raise it and don’t really care to know how a wingnut’s mind works, so, you know, whatever.
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Random,
I’m not sure if I answered your question before about why I comment here, but I was thinking about it yesterday and came up with an answer to offer if you asked again.
To me, there’s two parts of it, why I come to this blog daily and read at least some of the threads, and then why I sometimes add my own comments.
I come here to hear different points of view, most of which I would not encounter in the course of my daily life. There is a huge range of viewpoints here on all kinds of topics, from theology to politics to family to entertainment. I want both the intellectual stimulation of thinking about things in different ways, and to better understand other people.
As for why I comment, that’s not much different from why I would join a conversation in the breakroom at work, or among a group of friends sitting around chatting. If the subject is interesting and I have something I think worthwhile to add to the conversation, I say it. If I manage to find a gap in the conversation that I can slip in without interrupting, that is. In that regard, it’s easier to be part of the conversation here, because timing doesn’t matter so much.
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“Sarah Palin’s speech will be the most watched in political convention history. I hope she doesn’t blow it.”
It has to draw more than 38 million to do that! We’ll be checking the ratings, but I can tell you now you are totally wrong!
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Ah CB, so nice to know there’s another UCLA fan on board.
I’m like Pauline, I read to learn other viewpoints. Like CB, I’m disappointed at the aggressively negative posting by some Christians. When I met Lynn she asked me why I post, and I explained that it was like hanging out at the watercooler during the day–when I’m home writing in the summer, I’m looking for some distraction from time to time.
Like Random, I took seven months off several years ago when the hostility levels started affecting my personal spiritual life. I got so upset, I wrote to Marvin Olasky to complain.
But, I returned . . . and remain. I limit myself, however, and don’t respond to certain posters, don’t reply to specific subjects and find myself praying for some of you more than I do my relatives.
But I sure wish we could all get along . . .
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Perhaps it won’t be the most watched, but it’ll certainly be the most parsed, belittled and berated, especially if she does well.
And it’ll be the most watched in some demographics. The StuBob home, for instance. Unless it’s too late at night.
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THE MSM must marginalize, berate and discount anything that Palin says or does (and that goes for anyone in her family going back several generation).
They must do their part as the propaganda mouthpiece of the DNC and also do what ever Obama tells them to do – just like they always do.
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CB,
No, you will never know how a normal, natural and Christian mind works – that much we know – until you give up your sinful ways when it comes to your sexual orientation and lifestyle and …..eeerrrrr….. come to Jesus. But I am sure that I am not the first to bring this to your attention. But like I said, we will be praying for you.
I know it makes you feel better to call me names like wingnut but it only means you have lost the debate – as usual.
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Llama
I usually don’t mind when Christians pray for me. In your case though, I make an exception. Please don’t trouble yourself and trust in God that his will be done. He really doesn’t need your help.
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Chas
That mayor is a dem and Gov. Granholm (also a dem) is likely going to have to remove him if he won’t step down.
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Ever overdo it?
I over did it, and am in bed with a migraine.
I have to do something about my impossible, unhealthy/over-committed Tuesdays.
It’s hard to be a person of your word, over-commit, only to realize that somethings got to give.
I don’t usually do this. The scholarship went to my head, I think. And now I’m stuck with a schedule I can’t endure, physically. Even my 20 year old male colleague was hurting badly by 10 pm.
I’m more than twice his age. My professor let us know early on that if we dropped any of his classes, we’d make him look bad.
I should also mention that the amount of homework is extreme. I’m not doing this for a degree. I already have my degree.
What would you do?
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I think your professor’s comment is a clear sign that you should at least consider dropping the class–why would he say that if he didn’t already have a problem within his department/administration? If you’re not doing it for a degree, is it worth the way you feel? I’ve always felt that voluntary education should be rewarding and even, yes, fun. Can you talk to a department head or equivalent about your concerns?
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EYG, Are you doing this for fun and personal enrichment only? If so, check on auditing the class. Then you could attend class and do some of the assignments, but you wouldn’t be obligated to do all the homework or even attend all the classes. Explain the problem to the professor and if he can’t deal with it, oh well…you have to do what you have to do.
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on the convention floor I believe the mixing of religion and politics is out of place
LOLOLOLOL!
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on the convention floor I believe the mixing of religion and politics is out of place
It’s not out of place unless it is the Hail Mary or a Jewish prayer. Then you’ll see what Christians really think of the “Big Tent” that is the Republican Party.
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Anyone notice the Michelle Malkin piece today? She points out the start contrast between US mags treatment of Obama and their horrible treatment of Palin:
partisan hit job
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Prediction: Sarah Palin’s speech tonight will give the Outkasts and Llamas of the GOP just the kind of extremist rightwing rhetoric they want to hear, and they’ll cheer loud enough to shake the rafters. They will come here to post more gleeful praise of her and more wildly offbase diagnoses of liberals being sacred, upset, angry, whatever.
What they will not realize until it’s too late is that for every one of them who have been drawn to the McCain ticket with enthusiam thanks to the addition of Palin, three others who had previously been passionate about McCain because he was finally a Republican who was not a rightwing extremist will be having grave doubts about whether they want to continue to support the ticket.
And when Barack Obama takes the oath of office in January, the Outkasts and Llamas of the world will have no idea what went wrong.
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I remember being at a Democratic State Convention when the Native Americans opened with a drum ceremony for the prayer. They apparently don’t mind mixing religion and politics at all.
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Make It Man: Anyone notice the Michelle Malkin piece today?
Do you ever read sources with actual credibility?
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CBS News has excellent coverage of Sarah Palin’s upcoming speech. Should be a good one.
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Ki: A drum ceremony is a bit less specific than a profession of faith in Christ, no?
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To those who think McCain is going to Conservative: Republicans do better in presidential elections when the candidate is a strong Conservative. Reagan, GHW Bush in 1988 (but not in 1992). GW Bush barely won because he was considered by many to be partially Conservative (myself included, as I did not vote for him in 2004).
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It was done as the prayer opening the convention. It was announced as such. We can debate whether or not such things should be done at conventions, but to act as if the Republicans are the only ones doing so is false. It is just like in the churches; the Dems can mix religion and politics, the Republicans are not supposed to. It is the hypocrisy that gets to me.
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Cameron, Ajisun,
Thank you for your input.
Much appreciated.
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Palin’s Wasilla Legacy: Book banning, gag orders, polarization, and retribution.
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KI
Opening prayers are one thing and no big deal. I was referring to the Christian singer on stage during the convention. For a minute there I thought I was watching one of the Sunday AM televangelist shows. True to style OutKast quotes out of context and giggles at what is difficult for him to fathom.
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They will come here to post more gleeful praise of her and m
SteveG: Don’t worry, I would NEVER accuse liberals of being “sacred.”
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ST. PAUL, Minn., Sept. 2 — Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin was not subjected to a lengthy in-person background interview with the head of Sen. John McCain’s vice presidential vetting team until last Wednesday in Arizona, the day before McCain asked her to be his running mate, and she did not disclose the fact that her 17-year-old daughter was pregnant until that meeting, two knowledgeable McCain officials acknowledged Tuesday.
McCain did not speak face to face with Palin until Thursday morning, at his retreat in Sedona, Ariz.
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They will come here to post more gleeful praise of her and more wildly offbase diagnoses of liberals being sacred, upset, angry, whatever.
SteveG: Don’t worry, I would NEVER accuse liberals of being “sacred.”
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As a Christian it pains me to say this but I have never really encountered a homosexual person who despised me on sight. I had one who didn’t particularly like me at first, something about him being an uppity yankee who looked down his nose at southerners and me being a sweet, charming southern belle with a voice dripping with honey and magnolias. Eventually we reached a truce and he is a lot of fun dishing on the gossip and talking trash. Other than him I have found most of the gay people I know to be welcoming and accepting of me. Too, bad I can’t say that for some or a lot of the Christians I know. Coyote Blue I would love to pray for you. I imangine every now and then God likes to hear us pray for someone else other than me, me, me and I want,want, want all the time. Luke, I have already told you that I look at your name, roll my eyes, and think here we go again, but you really got me with a terrific zinger one day and I had to laugh at you. (By the way it was directly aimed at me, but it sure was funny.)
I have so called “Christianss” right in my own father’s family that have not spoken to “family”. I guess my point is that we can all disagree but let’s at least be nice about it. I had to remove myself from some of the Palin discussion yesterday because a few thought the little ol’ woman should stay home and tend her youngin’s. I don’t know what kind of lilly white lives the rest of you live but I have had a few family members and a few friends who have either “gotten in trouble” or had children who did. One of the saddest things I have ever witnessed was an older family member who had gotten pregnant in 1954. Her fiance was sent to Korea. He came home mentally disturbed. She had a little boy in June of 1955 in a Catholic hospital. She was going to give the child up for adoption when her mother marched into the hospital and demanded her grandson. The grandparents went on to raise the child but held it over their daughters head for the rest of her life. She died a broken, bitter, confused alcoholic. Is that what we wish for the Palin family????
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GL: Doesn’t McCain have the right to choose whomever he wants, after whatever “vetting” he feels is necessary? Geez, it wasn’t like you were going to vote for McCain anyway!
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Fred Thompson at the RNC: “Now, being a POW certainly doesn’t qualify anyone to be President.”
Let the Thompson smear begin.
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Outkast-
He did pick who he wants, but it was not a very deliberative process for choosing someone who could be POTUS.
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Way to take something completely out of context, Lumpy. So typical of you Leftists. Can you recall the VERY NEXT LINE that Thompson said?
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Who cares how deliberative it was, Lumpy, and why should you care? Especially since you won’t be voting for that side of the ticket anyway?
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But Outkast! have you no idea how clinically demented the libs are over all these issues? Obviousy the Chief Drillbit of the Supreme Blog has spelled it out correctly in previous threads.
Lumpy posted what he did just proving that dummycrats just cannot stomach truth. Naturally he took Fred Thompson’s comments out of context because Lumpy isn’t ready for a more conservative ticket than we have now. I’ve posted this elsewhere on WoW and I’ll say it again: Michael Savage was right when he titled a book; Liberalism is a Mental Disorder.
SteveG @ #42 wrote: Make It Man: Anyone notice the Michelle Malkin piece today?
Do you ever read sources with actual credibility? I’ve noticed it, Steve. And since Michelle Malkin is one of this countries brightest pundits, my suggestion is that you start paying attention. You’re an intelligent guy, Steve, and ya wouldn’t want facts to get in the way of your judgment, would you?
I also had a chance to check out Make It Man’s link to the partisan hit job. *sigh* I like the way these publicity rags show their yeller stripes down their corporate backs. No national backbone whatsoever. Typical liberal pile-on. No suggestions offering solutions to America’s problems. No care for those in uniform abroad. Even the Dummycrat Taxraiser-in-Chief went to Europe campaigning for the US Presidency, saying how America was not that great, and that we needed to elect Obamessiah to straighten things out.
Yeah…..right
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“Do you ever read sources with actual credibility?”
Steve,
Ever deal with the substance of the argument rather than making ad hom attacks?
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#32 CB,
Nothing personal, but I learned long ago that if one doesn’t want to be to be broke, dead or both, I never do what they say nor do i do ever do as they wish.
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Outkast- “Who cares how deliberative it was, Lumpy, and why should you care?”
I care because I am an American citizen and I love my country. I would expect a through and critical look at someone who may very likely become President.
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#40 SteveG,
‘And when Barack Obama takes the oath of office in January,’
You are all Hope, Wish, and Dreaming for a Future that will not happen and never materializes – but you are used to that by now and it should not come as a shock to you.
If things where going your way you would not be lurking and trolling Christin and conservative websites looking for fun, sport or self gratification. What? you can’t get a date? Sorry about that. I hear hair won’t grow on your palms if you wear gloves. I know how hard it must be for you self victimized, lefty, wanna be males after Marxist slave masters have their way with you. Palin was the straw that broke the camel’s back for you wasn’t it? I thought it would have been the sofa, Oh well
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“Anybody who says that she wasn’t completely vetted is completely wrong,” a McCain campaign official said.
“The campaign says the form included such detailed questions as: Have you been faithful in your marriage? Have you ever paid for sex? Have you ever downloaded pornography? Have you ever used or purchased drugs?”
They should have asked her about the millions in earmarks she took while Mayor.
Why she hired a lobbyist with ties to Jack Abramoff?
Why she is listed on the incorporation papers for corruption indicted Senator Ted Stevens 527 PAC that seeks corporate donations?
Why she took at least $4,500 in campaign contributions in the same fundraising scheme that led to the corruption indictment of Sen. Ted Stevens?
What were her dealing with VECO?
I don’t care that she used to smoke marijuana. I don’t care if she surfs porn.
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I care because I am an American citizen and I love my country. I would expect a through and critical look at someone who may very likely become President.
But since your Vegas-style websites claim that McCain/Palin has a lower and lower chance of winning the White House, especially with such an “inexperienced, unvetted” person being nominated for VP, why would you be so concerned?
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Have been waiting for Peggy Noonan’s take on recent events. Just finished her latest WSJ piece. As always, she is my favorite journalist and a hero.
A caller on Dennis Prager this a.m. raised an interesing contrast: that the libs who have all of a sudden grown so maternal don’t seem to have a problem with mothers being in the military and physically separated from family for extended periods.
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Make it Man,
I saw it.
incredible.
I usually like that magazine, too.
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Outkast-
You might like to hear what Peggy Noonan has to say about the Palin choice when she thinks the microphones are off!
Noonan does use the common wording of Male Cow Dung, so sensitive ears be warned. Still. A great candid moment for the Republican Pundits, and they are very upset by this choice.
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I just watched it again.
“It’s not gonna work.” “Gimmicky and cynical.” “It’s over.” “I mean is she really the most qualified woman they could have put in there?” “Most qualified, NO. I think they went for this political (cow dung) about narratives.” “Every time republicans do that they blow it.” “The greatness of McCain is no cynicism, and this is cynical.” “And gimmicky.”
Excellent candor, Mike Murphy and Peggy Noonan.
Thank you, my friends.
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Coyote Blue: I realize it was first you that brought up the issue. I was really responding to Lester, however. I didn’t see the singing, but I don’t know why a convention cannot have whatever the party desires. That is why people jump to get on the various committees–so they can steer things the way they want them to go. I am not a member if the Republicans, so I am not sure of all the party machinery involved there. I can only see what I have seen in the Democratic Party.
I will agree with you that I think Christians should be leary of giving the impression that one must be in a certain party to be a Christian or can only vote one way. Also, I prefer politics to remain mostly out of my local church. I just believe if the proper teaching of scripture is done, that it is not necessary. Still, I believe churches do have the right. I mostly see it excercized by Dems, BTW.
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Good points KI.
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Yup it’s crap all right, and I don’t mean McCain’s choice of VP. Not all Republican pundits (nor the R’s base) are against Palin. And Peggy has been know to be wrong before. That’s the nice thing about being an opinion columnist. You can be wrong occasionally, because you’re not reporting facts….
The thing I don’t understand is why the Democrats are attacking Palin so badly. In one of two ways, they’re shooting themselves in the foot. If Palin is as bad as they are trying to portray her, then why not leave it alone? I mean if the woman is trailer park trash, leave her on the ticket, and let McCain lose. If Palin is as good as her supporters believe, the all the Democrats are going to do is create a backlash. Either way the Democrats lose.
I don’t get it.
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This is one campaign speech I’m going to make an effort to listen to. I’ve never done that before. If the Democrats are all fired up over this candidate, there’s got to be something going right.
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Have been waiting for Peggy Noonan’s take on recent events. Just finished her latest WSJ piece. As always, she is my favorite journalist and a hero.
She is also, just like about everyone else in journalism, a complete and utter lying hypocrite. Compare what she wrote for the right wing suckers with what she said on national TV when she thought her microphone was off. You can listen to it yourself; just click on the link in #68 from Godlumps.
“It’s not gonna work.” “Gimmicky and cynical.” “It’s over.” “I mean is she really the most qualified woman they could have put in there?” “Most qualified, NO. I think they went for this political (cow dung) about narratives.” “Every time republicans do that they blow it.” “The greatness of McCain is no cynicism, and this is cynical.” “And gimmicky.”
She still your “hero” and “favorite journalist” now, AKMOM?
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Noonan is a great speech-writer and obviously is not entirely sold on Palin, but she is a Washington insider so I am not exactly surprised.
Her words were quite mild compared to Clinton’s campaign director who basically lambasted Obama as utterly un-American and unelectable, among other things. So once again the Democrat spam operative assigned to WMB, Godlumps (formerly Hamachi), comes up looking kind of stupid again – not all Republicans are crazy about Palin – or McCain. Not all Democrats are crazy about Barack ‘God d-mn America Obama’ – or Joe ‘Plagiarist’ Biden. Yawn.
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Great find, Godlumps. What a brazen, lying hypocrite.
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Make It Man-
America just met Ms. Palin a couple days ago and has a right to check her out thoroughly before we hand her the keys to the White House. Let’s make sure she is fit to be President if McCain, now in his 73rd year, checks out.
Her resume is a bit thin. Let’s look at how she has taken earmarks and how that squares with her “reformer” narrative. How she founded the 527 for Ted Stevens, a Senator indicted for corruption. How she hired an Abramoff lobbyist. Let’s see if the courts agree she abused her power in a retributive act.
McCain is known for being hot-headed and sometimes making rash decisions. This may well be another one.
If she’s as good as you think, she has nothing to hide.
Did you watch Peggy Noonan and Mike Murphy’s video on Palin?
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“If the Democrats are all fired up over this candidate, there’s got to be something going right.”
If the Republicans don’t want us to look closely at this candidate, there’s got to be something wrong.
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Drill 75
Please don’t swear. I have asked you before.
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If the Democrats are all fired up over this candidate, there’s got to be something going right.
Is this the same way you feel about Obama, Lumpy? I notice you like to quote liberals and other establishment insiders a lot to prove your points.
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Drill-
On the Help or Hurt (162) thread you called JJF a liar. That too is against the rules. Please clean up your act, my friend.
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Outkast-
I quoted Make it Man. Keep up.
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Hmm. WoW wants to be known as a place to discuss the big breaking news stories of the day. You’d think they’d have a post up by now about one of America’s most well known conservatives columnists caught lying in print. But for some strange reason, I can’t find any posts about it.
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C’mon guys, Mickey, whoever. What possible excuse can you have for not writing about this story? Your silence on Noonan’s hypocrisy speaks volumes.
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Say, wasn’t it just a few weeks ago that the conservatives on here were criticizing the MSM for ignoring the John Edward’s affair story, until he admitted it? The MSM said they ignored it because it came from the National Enquirer. Well now the Enquirer has a story claiming that Sarah Palin had an affair with her husband’s business partner. I’ll watch for the conservatives on her to start criticizing the mainstream media for ignoring this story about a politician having an affair.
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Of course, I wouldn’t dare make any predictions on the outcome of November 4th. But if The Miracle happens and Obama is elected (and it would be my first acknowledgment that Miracles do occur), I will so be here to laugh my head off. Then on November 5th, we’re gonna start questioning the loyalty and and patriotism of anyone who criticizes President Obama, like y’all did to us with Bush.
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. . . I will so be here to laugh my head off.
How noble. And mature.
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Lumpy, I want you to look closely at Palin. But how long can you look at her daughter’s baby bump? There’s got to be more to Palin than her kids, and that’s all fair game.
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The National Enquirer — yes, Victoria’s trusted news source that broke the John Edwards Affair — has a story on Sarah Palin’s affair with her husband’s business partner.
“The allegations contained on the cover of the National Enquirer insinuating that Governor Palin had an extramarital affair are categorically false,” Schmidt said. “It is a vicious lie. Governor Palin is the most popular governor in the country.”
Outkast, where is Victoria today?
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NJL-
Her baby bump? See #77. I’m more concerned she’s just like Ted Stevens, who is under indictment for corruption. Let’s look long and hard.
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Re: post 81: Lumpy, Drill never called JJF a liar on that other thread. He merely asked him to stop lying. That’s not a violation of the rules of this blog.
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How long will it be until Palin drops out to “spend time with her family”?
Will she do it tonight at the RNC?
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Outkast 91
“Drill never called JJF a liar on that other thread.”
Some guy named Mickey begs to differ. Keep up.
“To me, saying that someone is lying is no different than calling someone a liar. So anyone who is doing that should stop. Arguments should be countered with facts, not accusations.” Mickey
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Oh, snap!! Godlumps.
Outkast has a long history of making personal attacks on here. The only thing I can figure as to why he hasn’t been booted is that he’s got something on one of the editors.
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I just lost an old friend–Mike Barnhart–after a long fight with brain cancer. Please pray for his family (mother and sister especially). Mike’s mother also lost her husband earlier this year.
Mike and I were roommates in the summer of 1974 sellin’ Bibles door to door in Gulfport, Mississippi. I know I’ll never live that down with some of our WOW bloggers, but there it is. It was quite an experience and sharing it with Mike was an unforgettable bond. Since college days, I only saw him once every few years but it’s hard to put it into perspective, somehow.
When he first was told he needed brain surgery, Mike told his doctor he needed that like a hole in his head. Mike made sure his friends heard that joke too. He liked to laugh at his own jokes. That gives me some joy now!
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Heartless too?
“Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, the Republican vice-presidential nominee who revealed Monday that her 17-year-old daughter is pregnant, earlier this year used her line-item veto to slash funding for a state program benefiting teen mothers in need of a place to live.”
Don’t worry people. Bristol will be well cared for at the Vice President’s Mansion.
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I’m sorry for your loss, Joel, and will remember Mike’s family in my prayers.
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Sorry to hear it, Joel.
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Joel Mark – Vickie (VS) one time signed off an e-mail to me by saying, “One foot in the grave but still dancing!”
When she got the news from her doctor that the cancer was spreading even more, & faster than it previously had, she said she had a sense of peace, that God had prepared her for what she heard, & that she was joking around with the doctor.
I hope that if I ever face something like that I can face it with grace & humor.
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Outkast at #58: Who cares how deliberative it was, Lumpy, and why should you care? Especially since you won’t be voting for that side of the ticket anyway?
Because she might end up being president.
See, unlike you, we care about the country, not just the party. We care whose on your ticket because if ours loses, we have to live with your choices. We have every right to criticize poor choices on your side.
By your logic, you should shut up about Obama. You’re not going to vote for him anyway, so what do you care?
If McCain wins and then is unable to complete his term, Sarah Palin would be our president. Darn right we have a right to be concerned with how good the process was that led to her being picked.
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Joel Mark: You might not want it coming from me, but my condolences on your loss. Losing a close friend is always hard.
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Gravatar help: So I finally got around to setting up a Gravatar account today, but it’s not appearing. I see it down in the preview box as I type, next to my name, but then it doesn’t show up on the post.
It’s been well more than an hour … it’s been about about eight hours … what can I do to make it show up?
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The comments link is now working. BTW I am using the Firefox browser. Thanks Mickey!
Do you remember a very old commercial on TV where someone would say, “Thanks for the gumball Mickey!”? I have no idea what it was for, but it just popped in my head after many decades. I’m now waiting for the dust to clear …
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SteveG – Your gravitar will show up eventually. Mine took about a day or so. Fast, eh?
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Journalists are advised to check their mics before they speak their mind
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrG8w4bb3kg
Meanwhile in the Republicans universe raising taxes is a good idea really that’s what they said.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdxY_zgQk8c
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Now I’m all palpitating with anticipation to see what SteveG picked for a gravitar! I can’t wait! This is very exciting …
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Yes, Noonan is still my fav. journalist. Her comments are disappointing (I checked out the video), but not necessarily two-faced. I doubt her grumpiness about the VP pick will have much effect actually. She’s conservative “family”, that won’t change. She’s acting like the mother-in-law-to-be, miffed personally at her son’s choice, but puts on a good face in public. Her “off camera” feelings would be appropriatly kept off camera. They may change and then she will save face, or they may not, but it would still be appropriate to keep them under wraps.
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“If the Republicans don’t want us to look closely at this candidate, there’s got to be something wrong.”
Oh. there’s absolutely nothing wrong with looking closely, but it’s like the old playground saying goes: “You look with your eyes, not your hands”. The nasty folks on the left have not just been looking closely, they’ve been trying to get a hand in anywhere they can, throwing punches, pulling hair, shoving, spitting, and cursing, and I find it absolutely disgusting.
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The nasty folks on the left have not just been looking closely, they’ve been trying to get a hand in anywhere they can, throwing punches, pulling hair, shoving, spitting, and cursing, and I find it absolutely disgusting.
Replace “left” with “right” and you’ve got it down cold MIM!
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Make It Man:
“Obama attended a madrassa and had gay sex while snorting cocaine.”
“John Kerry lied about his service.”
“Max Cleland wants our country to be vulnerable to terrorists.”
“The Clintons had Vince Foster murdered.”
Cry me a river. If Sarah Palin can’t take the scrutiny, that enough is proof she’s not up to the job she’s been asked to take on.
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Joel,
My condolences on the loss of your good friend. I lost my grandfather to brain cancer. A brutal disease to watch in progress.
– TB
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Joel,
I will and thanks for bringing this to our attention. It is difficult to lose a friend, even when it is a rarely seen one, so I will be lifting you up as well. A reminder that no man knows the number of his days, but One does, and He can be trusted to do it right.
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Sarah is on fire tonite. Some real zingers. Seems pretty formidable to me, not the amatuer she’s been made out to be.
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As people here are fond of saying reading a teleprompter isn’t hard
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File this one under You’re Not Helping. New mom Jamie Lynn Spears just sent Bristol Palin a present for her baby.
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That woman is good!
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That woman is good!
At reading speeches!
But at running the US of A? Not so much.
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Xion: Now I’m all palpitating with anticipation to see what SteveG picked for a gravitar! I can’t wait! This is very exciting …
Well now it’s showing up but I see it’s too small to make out. It’s a photograph of a building at night with a neon sign that reads EAT AT JOE’S.
It’s a Joe’s Crab Shack in Nashville.
Ah well. I’ll find something simpler and change it.
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Steveg, how does the sour cheese and whine go together?
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I drive by Joe’s Crab Shack in Baton Rouge all the time. Never eaten there though.
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Sarah Palin kicked some donkey named Obama tonight. Whooooo-hoooo!
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Victoria: One of our leftist posters on this blog said tonight that mentioning “cheese and whine” together is a personal attack. I have no idea what that means.
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Outkast, I’m still waiting for you to explain how Sarah Palin was not lying her pants off when she said she refused funding for the bridge to nowhere.
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Glumps,
Why on earth is Outkast responsible for proving that attacks aren’t true? If you have proof of your assertion that she’s lying, offer it. But asking someone else to prove that your assertion is false is a little absurd.
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Cheryl,
It has nothing to do with attacks.
Outkast and I were discussing Palin’s claim that she told Congress “NO” on the bridge to nowhere.
Outkast said “It wasn’t a lie, Lumpy. Give it up already.”
I asked him to support his contention, as it’s easy enough to show she is lying.
CBS News says:
“Congress killed off the earmark well before Gov. Palin formally abandoned it. And while the bridge is in fact a dead project, the state still kept the money all $233 million in federal funds, for other transportation needs.”
History on the Bridge to Nowhere:
In October 2005, Republican Senator Ted Stevens of Alaska became the object of strong media criticism when he opposed diverting the Gravina and Knik Arm Bridge funds to help aid recovery from Hurricane Katrina.[3] In his speech on the Senate floor, Stevens threatened to quit Congress if the funds were removed from his state.[4]
The project was canceled in 2007 by Alaska Governor Sarah Palin after Congress forced the funds to be used elsewhere:
“Ketchikan desires a better way to reach the airport, but the $398 million bridge is not the answer. Despite the work of our congressional delegation, we are about $329 million short of full funding for the bridge project, and it’s clear that Congress has little interest in spending any more money on a bridge between Ketchikan and Gravina Island. Much of the public’s attitude toward Alaska bridges is based on inaccurate portrayals of the projects here. But we need to focus on what we can do, rather than fight over what has happened.”[8]
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Can I repeat that?
“The project was canceled in 2007 by Alaska Governor Sarah Palin after Congress forced the funds to be used elsewhere”
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Joel
My deepest condolences to you, your family and Mr. Barnhart’s family.
Kim,
Please feel free to if that is your wish. There are many folks on this board that I like and respect. My comments to one that I don’t respect should not be taken as a message to all.
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MIM at #60:
Ever deal with the substance of the argument rather than making ad hom attacks?
You mean like in #63?
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