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		<title>By: Anlir</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anlir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 19:04:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A couple of points about polling:

1.  I think many people are telling pollsters what they think they want them to say, not what they are actually going to do on election day.

2.  Approximately 1 in 4 Americans no longer has a land line, making any polling done strictly by phone suspect.

3.  It&#039;s still way to early to be polling people.  The vast majority of Americans still haven&#039;t made up their mind.

4.  The inaccuracy of polling has caused people to question the value of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A couple of points about polling:</p>
<p>1.  I think many people are telling pollsters what they think they want them to say, not what they are actually going to do on election day.</p>
<p>2.  Approximately 1 in 4 Americans no longer has a land line, making any polling done strictly by phone suspect.</p>
<p>3.  It&#8217;s still way to early to be polling people.  The vast majority of Americans still haven&#8217;t made up their mind.</p>
<p>4.  The inaccuracy of polling has caused people to question the value of it.
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		<title>By: hrw</title>
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		<dc:creator>hrw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 04:04:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wikipedia has a fairly good article on the Bradley effect and its recent demise. It also discusses a reverse Bradley effect where blacks under report their support for Obama. However the last sentence echoes my thoughts;

&lt;i&gt;On average, Obama received three percentage points more support in the actual primaries and caucuses than he did during polling; however, he also had a strong ground campaign, and many polls do not question voters with cellphones, who are predominantly young.&lt;/i&gt;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bradley_effect

For a good analysis of polls in the primary see FiveThirtyEight

http://tinyurl.com/6paw5x</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wikipedia has a fairly good article on the Bradley effect and its recent demise. It also discusses a reverse Bradley effect where blacks under report their support for Obama. However the last sentence echoes my thoughts;</p>
<p><i>On average, Obama received three percentage points more support in the actual primaries and caucuses than he did during polling; however, he also had a strong ground campaign, and many polls do not question voters with cellphones, who are predominantly young.</i><br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bradley_effect" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bradley_effect</a></p>
<p>For a good analysis of polls in the primary see FiveThirtyEight</p>
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		<title>By: krm</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 02:30:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HRW - What level of Bradley Effect is factored into the polls that RealClear is compiling?  

How were they set up as to all of their metrics? 

Polls are only as good as their metrics going in.  I think this year gives a more difficult task of setting up the metrics.

So there may be much less accuracy to the polls this year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HRW &#8211; What level of Bradley Effect is factored into the polls that RealClear is compiling?  </p>
<p>How were they set up as to all of their metrics? </p>
<p>Polls are only as good as their metrics going in.  I think this year gives a more difficult task of setting up the metrics.</p>
<p>So there may be much less accuracy to the polls this year.
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		<title>By: Anlir</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anlir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 01:15:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>None other than Karl Rove says Iowa is leaning toward Obama.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>None other than Karl Rove says Iowa is leaning toward Obama.
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		<title>By: hrw</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 22:27:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Outkast, Real Clear Politics list polls that beg to differ;

http://tinyurl.com/5vgra5

Obama is ahead in Iowa by 15 in the latest poll, Sept. 2. In fact he went up by 10 points in the month of August. 

Polls suggest Nevada, Virginia, Ohio, Colorado, and New Hampshire are still vitrually tied. If the rest of the country plays out as the polls predict Obama has 260 and McCain has 227. Of the remaining 51 EVs McCain will need all but eight, which he means he must will all but one of the remaining states. He can only lose Nevada or New Hampshire but not both.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Outkast, Real Clear Politics list polls that beg to differ;</p>
<p><a href="http://tinyurl.com/5vgra5" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/5vgra5</a></p>
<p>Obama is ahead in Iowa by 15 in the latest poll, Sept. 2. In fact he went up by 10 points in the month of August. </p>
<p>Polls suggest Nevada, Virginia, Ohio, Colorado, and New Hampshire are still vitrually tied. If the rest of the country plays out as the polls predict Obama has 260 and McCain has 227. Of the remaining 51 EVs McCain will need all but eight, which he means he must will all but one of the remaining states. He can only lose Nevada or New Hampshire but not both.
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		<title>By: krm</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 19:02:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Godlumps - You&#039;re fairly good at lying by ommission.  Enough so as to undermine your credibility across the baord.

McCain was indeed born in Pamana: On a US military base (recognized under international law as the territory of the country whose military operated the base) - to two US citizens, one of whom was on active military duty at the time.  There is no issue as to his citizenship and only the very vaguest of quibble as to how the &quot;natural born citizen&quot; language of the Constitution applies here (I&#039;ve not yet see a case or law review commentary making even a reasonable case against McCain as a &quot;natural born citizen&quot; of the US).

The Obama citizenship and &quot;natural born citizen&quot; status is much more murky.  I tend to think that it ought to go toward him being viewed as a &quot;natural born citizen&quot; but a somewhat reasonable argument could be made against it. He was apparently born in the US, but to a minor US citizen and a foriegn citizen, and their various travels before and after the birth could play a bit of havoc with the citizenship issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Godlumps &#8211; You&#8217;re fairly good at lying by ommission.  Enough so as to undermine your credibility across the baord.</p>
<p>McCain was indeed born in Pamana: On a US military base (recognized under international law as the territory of the country whose military operated the base) &#8211; to two US citizens, one of whom was on active military duty at the time.  There is no issue as to his citizenship and only the very vaguest of quibble as to how the &#8220;natural born citizen&#8221; language of the Constitution applies here (I&#8217;ve not yet see a case or law review commentary making even a reasonable case against McCain as a &#8220;natural born citizen&#8221; of the US).</p>
<p>The Obama citizenship and &#8220;natural born citizen&#8221; status is much more murky.  I tend to think that it ought to go toward him being viewed as a &#8220;natural born citizen&#8221; but a somewhat reasonable argument could be made against it. He was apparently born in the US, but to a minor US citizen and a foriegn citizen, and their various travels before and after the birth could play a bit of havoc with the citizenship issues.
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		<title>By: outkast</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 17:32:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t count out the Hawkeye state of Iowa yet, HRW. It&#039;s very much still in play, especially after McCain picked Pain for VP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t count out the Hawkeye state of Iowa yet, HRW. It&#8217;s very much still in play, especially after McCain picked Pain for VP.
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		<title>By: StuBob</title>
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		<dc:creator>StuBob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 16:18:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you&#039;re interested, here is the Assemblies of God: www.ag.org

and here are the fundamentalists: www.ifca.org

Personally, I&#039;m more concerned about tree-spiking Earth-Firsters than either of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you&#8217;re interested, here is the Assemblies of God: <a href="http://www.ag.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.ag.org</a></p>
<p>and here are the fundamentalists: <a href="http://www.ifca.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.ifca.org</a></p>
<p>Personally, I&#8217;m more concerned about tree-spiking Earth-Firsters than either of them.
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		<title>By: StuBob</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 16:01:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CB, I believe that what you call a &quot;fundamentalist&quot; is not the same group as those who would apply that label to themselves.

I haven&#039;t seen any of the video.  What makes him a fundamentalist?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CB, I believe that what you call a &#8220;fundamentalist&#8221; is not the same group as those who would apply that label to themselves.</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t seen any of the video.  What makes him a fundamentalist?
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		<title>By: hrw</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 15:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In a later thread I linked to Gallup which now has a 48-44 Obama lead a slight change from the previous 49-42 but still within the margin of error. Looking at any interactive electoral college map and it will be obvious that Obama should be the favourite -- Iowa and New Mexico are his. All he needs is one more state and he wins. So Ohio, Colorado, Virginia, -- just one of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a later thread I linked to Gallup which now has a 48-44 Obama lead a slight change from the previous 49-42 but still within the margin of error. Looking at any interactive electoral college map and it will be obvious that Obama should be the favourite &#8212; Iowa and New Mexico are his. All he needs is one more state and he wins. So Ohio, Colorado, Virginia, &#8212; just one of them.
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