Accusations of racism at FRC’s Values Voter Summit
It’s OK to say that Barack Obama waffles on the issues, but to humorously make that point with a box of Obama Waffles is not OK. In fact, it’s racist.
Bob DeMoss and Mark Whitlock are two well-known Christian writers with an eye for satire. They thought it would be funny to package waffle mix in an “Obama Waffles” box and sell what they call the “Ultimate Election ’08 Edible Souvenir.” So they found a manufacturer who would private-label the waffle mix, designed a box with caricatures of Barack and Michelle Obama on it, and rented a booth at this weekend’s Family Research Council Values Voter Summit in Washington, D.C.
Things went well for a day and a half. DeMoss and Whitlock said traffic to their booth was heavy, they got no complaints, and they sold more than 400 boxes of the waffle mix.
But then a member of American Atheists brought the exhibit to the attention of an Associated Press reporter covering the event. When the AP reporter started asking questions, the FRC told the exhibitors to dismantle the exhibit. The AP article started getting traction on the internet, forcing the FRC to issue a statement by day’s end that read, in part:
The materials represent an attempt at parody that crosses the line into coarseness and bias. The exhibitor contacted our reviewer just days before the Summit by email and described material that sounded like it was devoted to political flip-flops on policy issues. When the content of the materials was brought to the attention of FRC Action senior officials today, they were removed and the exhibit was dismantled by the vendor at our insistence. It is our responsibility to fully vet materials that are offered at any event we cosponsor, but we are deeply dismayed that this vendor violated the spirit, message and tone of our event in such an offensive manner.
FRC spokesman J.P. Duffy told WORLD the caricatures of the Obamas, along with some of the language on the box, “crossed the line” of racism.
Duffy added that it was not the political message the FRC had a problem with, but language and pictures that some might consider racist. “We have no problem with their overall point,” he said. “We were just concerned that some might find the way they made their point offensive.”
The language on the back of the box included a comic picture of Michelle Obama saying, “For the first time in my adult life I’m proud of an American waffle.” A recipe on the back for “Open Border Fiesta Waffles” features a picture of Barack Obama in a Mexican sombrero. The recipe is a “recommended serving” for “4 or more illegal aliens.”
DeMoss and Whitlock were philosophical about the uproar. “We didn’t complain,” said DeMoss. “Blessed are the peacemakers. We’re not looking for trouble. But I do think it’s ironic that at an event that celebrates proclaiming the truth we were shut down for telling the simple truth that Barack Obama waffles on the issues.”
He added, “I understand that it’s not for everyone. But we don’t have a racist bone in our bodies. This is humor, not hate.”




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LMBO!
Any criticism of any black person by any white person is always called racism. Criticizing a black person just isn’t done in polite society.
There’s nothing at all offensive about the spirit, message, or tone of the joke. Nothing. Of course, the FRC is a spineless evangellyfish org, so you know they’re going to buckle under at the first charge of racism.
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Am I allowed to call Night Train a racist now? Cause I really think this could be an effective litmus test for determining if someone is a racist - scientifically.
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So “well-known Christian writers” see nothing offensive about a little black Sambo kind of illustration?
Interesting.
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Am I allowed to call Night Train a racist now? Cause I really think this could be an effective litmus test for determining if someone is a racist - scientifically.
Luke, it’s a heterosexual thang; ya’ll wouldn’t understand.
So “well-known Christian writers” see nothing offensive about a little black Sambo kind of illustration?
SteveG, it’s a caricature. What’s “little black Sambo” about it? Ever seen some of the cartoons drawn of Bush?
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With the huge teeth it looks a lot more like John Kerry than it does Little Black Sambo.
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Not only are Bob DeMoss and Mark Whitlock the so called christians being racist but are implying that all “Mexicans” are illegal. I hope they realize that their careers are over. No god fearing publisher, or human being with a little bit of brains is ever going to buy anything they publish again. I hope they go to hell!
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Bob DeMoss and Mark Whitlock the so called christians are being racist but are also implying that all “Mexicans” are illegal. I hope they realize that their careers are over. No god fearing publisher, or human being with a little bit of brains is ever going to buy anything they publish again. I hope they go to hell!
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Llama? Is that you?
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Anyone supporting or thinking that what they did is funny are also racist and I hope they also go to hell too. Repent now in this forum you morons!
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Anyone supporting or thinking that what they did is funny are also racist and I hope they also go to hell too. Repent now in this forum you moron!!
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Yes, I believe it is Llama!
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BOYCOTT Bob DeMoss and Mark Whitlock!!! AND ANYONE WHO SUPPORTS THEM BY PUBLISHING THEIR BOOKS OR ALLOWS THEM INTO YOUR CHURCHES THEY WILL BRING YOUR ORGANIZATION DOWN BY CAUSING DIVISION!!!!
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BOYCOTT Bob DeMoss and Mark Whitlock!!! AND ANYONE WHO SUPPORTS THEM BY PUBLISHING THEIR BOOKS OR ALLOWS THEM INTO YOUR CHURCHES THEY WILL BRING YOUR ORGANIZATION DOWN BY CAUSING DIVISION!!
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As I said the other day, I think what is going on at wmb is probably not racism, but mostly grievance. Just about everybody here is aggrieved.
“Mommy, the black kid hit me!”
“Did not! The white kid hit me first.”
“Do I have to stop this car right now and leave you both by the side of the road where the Islamic bogeyman and his friend the scary liberal will get you?”
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Night train are you a man or a woman? you know that LMBO is an acronym for Laughing My Boobs Off right? A woman can say that but if you are a man you might want to consult your doctor about taking you off the phosphodiesterase inhibitor cause you are developing gynecomastia. What a moron!
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It means no such thing.
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080213065627AAwnPnC
I’m now convinced it’s Llama, since he’s demonstrated that he’s clueless on everything he talks about.
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It means no such thing.
Now I’m convinced it’s Llama, since he’s full of insults and he’s made it clear that he’s clueless on every topic he’s talked about so far.
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Night Train
It isn’t Llama, however it is a ‘T’ -
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Angelou
Who cares what you think about Night Train or anyone else here on the blog - you can ‘flame’ all you like, what a waste of time. I don’t care if you’re a male or female, your demeanor is sub standard.
By the way, do you like waffles? - they are very tasty with syrup, real heavy syrup - LOL
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Angelou - 15
YOU WRITE:… “you know that LMBO is an acronym for Laughing My Boobs Off right? Night train are you a man or a woman? you know that LMBO is an acronym for Laughing My Boobs Off right?”
Here is a site that will help ’someone’ like you with an acronym:
http://www.patoche.org/alone/info/acronymslist.html
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What has happened to our freedom. Without Freedom of Speech, you have no freedom. You are told what to say and think. Bob and Mark are Satirist. Genius! If you don’t like it too bad!
I “LOVE” this creative idea.
DON’T BOYCOTT WAFFLES, THEY ARE YUMMY!
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A box of Obama Waffles is not OK. In fact, it’s racist.
One can argue this is in poor taste. But can someone please explain to me what is racist about it? I am serious.
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Xion, you write: — “One can argue this is in poor taste. But can someone please explain to me what is racist about it? I am serious.” –
I don’t believe anyone can.
Obama waffles, he gaffes, etc, people are going to make comments about his ah, well, ah, moments and the waffles - What does race have to do with the waffle box?
Duffy says “We were just concerned that some might find the way they made their point offensive.”
We find people who are offended over EVERYTHING that relates to the black American, but its a free for all when its aimed at the white race - WHY IS THAT? WHO MADE THOSE RULES?
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Xion: The caricature looks a lot like overtly racist images from a generation or two ago.
An example.
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SteveG. In what way? Should they have made him look whiter?.
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‘JUST LET ME EAT MY WAFFLE’
Asked by a reporter if he had heard that Carter reported a positive outcome from the meeting, Obama looked sternly at the reporter in question and said, “Why can’t I just eat my waffle?”
Asked again by the reporter, Obama bit — not at the question but into a butter covered bite of Glider’s specialty over-size Belgian waffles. With a wink this time he said, “Just let me eat my waffle.”
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/24243923#24243923
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This you can’t miss -
Obama Waffles Leave Bad Taste
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ai6b6QPLXtI
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Xion: The caricature looks a lot like overtly racist images from a generation or two ago.
SteveG, that’s ludicrous. There’s no comparison whatsoever between the Obama waffle caricature and the example you provided.
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Steveg if this is your best comparison it failed. You’re looking for something that isn’t there.
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SteveG, Thanks but I don’t see the connection.
I see no difference between this cartoon image and of any black athlete or hero on cereal boxes.
Are you saying that all Fat Albert cartoons were racist?
If Obama is elected, will all caricatures of him be called racist? Will all political cartoons be censored?
Excuse me for saying so, but doesn’t this sound a lot like a Taliban reaction to Muhammad cartoons?
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It’s a tough spot. Because you’re right, it is easy for people to undercut any caricatures of him with accusations of racism, whether the artist intended any or not, and in a lot of cases the accusations will be bogus and intended just to distract attention away from the point of the cartoon.
On the other hand, there are ways to caricature a black person that exaggerate stereotypical physical characteristics in a racist way — big lips,flat noses, gleaming white teeth, etc. — and there are ways to do it that avoid that effect. If an artists chooses to take the more stereotypical approach, it’s fair to question the motives.
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This article was written by Warren Cole Smith. It appears like even he is saying this is racist. Warren, if you’re out there, can you please explain? Do you think it was racist, or were you commenting on others who thought it was?
Just FYI - I didn’t think the lipstick comment was sexist either. I also oppose the censorship machine that is editing and chopping up classic American cartoons that are now deemed politically incorrect.
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#31 I know. But you see where this is going. No big lips or flat noses? Have you ever seen a political cartoon?
And what precisely is wrong with big lips and flat noses? Are you suggesting there is something wrong with those?
Apparently no one got the memo: OBAMA IS BLACK PEOPLE! Is there anything wrong with that? Is there any reason not to emphasize that? Why must we tip toe around?
What we have here is the latent racism of a guilty left who wants to purge the white ghosts of their own imaginary past. The fact that this cartoon is a problem for anyone IS ITSELF RACIST!!
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Steveg
Steveg I find your remarks unrealistic and this is the reason; Black people for the most part do have big lips, and flat noses are characteristics, along with white teeth, that just happens to be the way God made them - When did big lips become a bad thing, or flat noses or white teeth? Women (white) are seeking doctor’s who inject their lips so that they can have large lips - men and women are paying lots of money so dentists will whiten their teeth - this is bad, this is something that blacks should be offended at?
I can only speak for myself Steve, this attitude which many blacks and some whites have about the way blacks are represented has become so ‘egg stepping’ that most people aren’t paying any attention to it any more. The complaints have become childish, as if to say “whatever you do and whatever pictures portray the black race, which show features that are true and correct, but we don’t like, we are going to COMPLAIN its RACIST” The attitude is super, super sensitivity with no foundation except to find fault with most everything the rest of us do, say or paint - Most people are tired of the ‘egg stepping’ they aren’t going along with it anymore.
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Isn’t this fun?
Victoria … Steveg I find your remarks unrealistic and this is the reason; Black people for the most part do have big lips, and flat noses are characteristics, along with white teeth, that just happens to be the way God made them - When did big lips become a bad thing, or flat noses or white teeth?
Unless you’re completely ignorant of the caricatured images of blacks that were created in the Reconstruction era after the Civil War, and into the early 20th century, then you already know why this objection falls flat.
Excuse me for saying so, but doesn’t this sound a lot like a Taliban reaction to Muhammad cartoons?
Yep, it is. And specious accusations of racism are wrong.
So, get ready for endless debates on this. However, one point to consider: Obama’s been in the public eye in a big way for a long time, and he’s been caricatured in political cartoons many times… most of the time, the caricatures don’t make people suggest they might be racist. So maybe there really is something different about this one.
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Steveg
The “Civil War” was long, long ago, and “early 20th century” was way before my time. Dragging the distant past up, as if you can make a point FALLS FLAT - As it stands I had nothing to do with whatever people drew, or said, it has nothing to do with 2008, however if this is the best you can do to extinguish free speech and expression you my friend are out of luck.
Do black people hate their noses, lips and teeth, is that what this is all about? I don’t know, maybe they do?
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Victoria: Since that time, cartoonists have found ways to caricature black people without falling back on those old stereotypes. Caricatures that deliberately use that old style are generally considered to be racist because the artist knows why those old styles aren’t used anymore, and chooses to use them for deliberate effect.
You aren’t stupid … you understand this. Why do you pretend you don’t?
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Context is always important when trying to understand satire and racism. For example; Waffle in Canadian politics refers to hard left group in the 1970s
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Waffle
and not waffling hence when I saw the box cover my first point of reference was Aunt Jemima — not exactly an image associated with satire, but rather stereotypes.
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Context is always important when trying to understand satire and racism. For example; Waffle in Canadian politics refers to hard left group in the 1970s
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Waffle
and not waffling hence when I saw the box cover my first point of reference was Aunt Jemima — not exactly an image associated with satire, but rather stereotypes of the kind Steve mentions in #35 and I’m not old enough to remember the turn of the previous century.
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Steve
You are right, I’m not stupid - I’m also not going to go along with all the ‘egg stepping’ anymore it’s been used to control anyone other than black’s for over 25 years - Everything is offensive, anything can be taken wrong, according to whom? - Make it up as you go, if you don’t like something get the ‘LABEL’ out and mark it as “RACIST” that will fix it -
The reverse racism isn’t going to work either. Ever since we found out what was being ‘bellowed’ from Wright’s pulpit, “Black Liberation Theology” many people are looking closely at the results, and its teaching in many black churches. It’s nothing more than reverse racism, but now millions of people know what “Black Liberation Theology” is - they aren’t amused.
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Caricatures in political cartoons generally exaggerate features of the particular person being drawn, whether it’s big ears, big nose, etc. If Obama has particularly big lips or a flat noseas an individual, there’s nothing wrong with drawing him that way. While it’s true that black people in general do have those characteristics more than white people, I don’t remember that Obama does in any noticeable way - after all, he’s only part black. Thus using exaggerating characteristics of black people in general rather than his own features, would seem to be drawing attention to the fact he is black. To that extent it could be considered racist.
As Xion points out, Obama is in fact black, so there’s nothing racist by simply pointing it out. But then, what is the point of pointing it out? My guess is that in this case someone just thought it would fit very well with the idea of waffles, since the Aunt Jemima pancake products show a black Aunt Jemima. Which isn’t exactly a flattering comparison to make to a candidate for president. (Unlike black sports stars on cereal boxes, who are clearly being honored for their physical accomplishments, and being shown as someone to emulate by eating a good breakfast.)
Considering the history of race relations in this country, there really is no way to bring up a candidate’s race without some people seeing it as racism. Whether it is racism or not, I don’t know because that’s an attitude and I can’t read people’s hearts and minds. But as his race does not make him a better or worse candidate for president, it’s foolish in my opinion to bring it up as that just detracts from discussing the things that should matter.
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You’re doing good on this thread, Vic. Keep it up, sister!
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BTW, Obama’s teeth on this waffle carton are STILL not as white as his running mate’s!
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But Pauline,
I don’t see how this is bringing up race at all. Drawing him as a white man would certainly bring up race, but he is black and of course he is drawn as black. I thought of the comparison with Aunt Jemima…but the term they’re capturing is “waffles,” so I think it would be oversensitive to say, “Oh, we can’t do waffles, that Aunt Jemima thing…what term do we want to use instead?” With a white candidate, we wouldn’t show such overscrupulous sensitivity as to say, for instance, that we can’t do a box of chicken (Colonel Sanders) for an older white man who has a goatee. If the initial point was to imitate Aunt Jemima, that’s one thing, but I don’t think it was…for one thing, he’s a man, and the connection simply isn’t that solid. And really, unless we want to say it’s shameful to be black, I don’t see why we need to pretend he isn’t in order to avoid racism.
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So now Aunt Jemima is racist?
It is interesting though, that the logo has changed. The new politically correct Aunt Jemima ain’t yo mamma’s Aunt Jemima. (Oh, sorry I forgot that white people including Mark Twain are forbidden by the Thought Police from ever speaking that way. Each skin color must first receive approval for their authorized vocabulary.)
The original fictional Aunt Jemima was originally a minstrelsy/vaudeville song of the same name, performed by white vaudevillians in blackface, apron, and kerchief. A “mammy” caricature appeared on packages of Aunt Jemima Pancake mix. In 1893, the R.T. Davis Milling Company bought the brand.
Over the years, there have been constant remakes of the brand. A logo that used to mean ‘yummy’ now means ‘white devil’. The latest Aunt Jemima has a perm and looks like a young lawyer. As a matter of fact, she looks exactly like Michelle Obama.
Oops, did I make another racist comment by saying the words ‘Aunt’ and ‘Jemima’ in the same sentence? I think the terms vaudeville and blackface are also banned words by the Ministry of Language.
And you may as well arrest Bill Cosby too, because Fat Albert is definately a negative racial stereotype. We can’t allow people to make cartoons without filling out the proper authorization in triplicate. Let us all salute Big Brother who taught us the wonders of multiculturalism.
Curiously, the Ministry of Information approves of using the terms ‘liberal’ and ‘anti-liberty’ interchangeably. Apparently the oxymoron slipped passed the censors.
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Cherl D. The term chicken must never be used in the same sentence as Obama. Fried food and any cooking native to South Carolina will be banned, even though Obama isn’t from there. Just think of the implications of a verbal or culinary slip up of such magnitude? There could be riots.
OK, I’m having too much fun. My point is,
CAN LIBERALS HEAR HOW RACIST THEY ARE BY OBJECTING TO DRAWING OBAMA AS BLACK?
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Outkast, where I live most people are getting their teeth whitened, and you should see the BIG LIPS, there everywhere, on white people no less. Does that mean its racist to get ones lips fluffed up?
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I just thought of another little item. Faux tan its everywhere - you can make yourself very dark with a few applications, I should know, I do it every summer, and tomorrow nights the night. Is this by any chance a racist thing to do, making oneself tan with a lotion or cream? Please let me know immediately, the faux tan police might catch me -
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Bugs Bunny is racist.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Uah9ZY9YOw
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#49 Bugs Bunny is racist. … and sexist, and violent, not to mention exhibiting conduct unbecoming of a wabbit. The cartoon shows a banned expression of faith (a Christmas tree) and he is an insult to both the people of Brooklyn and Canadian mounties.
You will be happy to note that the liberal censorship committee has carefully edited out the final scene of Canadian Mounties all in blackface singing “Camptown Races”. Oh humanity!
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You know? Until this particular blog I had been thinking that if Obama got elected that there would be at least one consolation: I assumed that we could put this whole racist thing behind us once and for all. I mean, once we have a black president, could we not finally move on as a nation?
But now I realize something horrible that I had not considered. If Obama is elected, racism will get worse, unbelievably worse!
Political cartoons and political commentary will be viewed through a lens of racial hypersensitivity the likes of which haven’t been seen since the Muhammad cartoon controversy.
Anything except bowing down to the image of the media messiah will be considered racist at the least and a hate crime at worst. Hopefully no one gets thrown into the fiery furnace!
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