Whirled Views 9.15
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I think that was Einstein.
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Well, what do we have here?
Records show McCain more bipartisan
Not that I think this a virtue of McCain’s, but if Obama wants to make bi-partisanship an issue to run on, he picked the wrong guy to do it against.
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Since I wasn’t around yesterday, I could not respond to HRW who quoted me regarding Charlies Gibson, pre-interview, to wit, that I thought he wouldn’t be mean.
I was as surprised as anyone that Gibson was as rude as he was, not to mention condescending — but we went over that in another thread. What I did notice this morning — again, I might add — was that, in my humble opinion, of course, GMA was literally campaigning for Obama. Add in “The View,” and I can only conclude that ABC has taken to endorsing a candidate.
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I’m going to re-post what I said on Saturday afternoon, in the hopes of making more people aware of it:
Found on LGF:
“It won’t come as a surprise to LGF readers, but Charlie Gibson’s interview with Sarah Palin was heavily edited by ABC News to make Palin appear more hawkish and less knowledgeable. Mark Levin has the complete transcript, and what ABC News tried to pull here is a textbook example of media malfeasance: Gibson Interview.
Also see: ABC News Edited Out Key Parts of Sarah Palin Interview
The interview was so egregiously biased, even UPI is calling out ABC News for their blatant double standards: ABC’s Gibson grilled Palin hard, but it may backfire.
“The double-standard Gibson applied to Palin, compared with the uncritical media platforms repeatedly offered to Obama, who has had zero executive experience running anything, was especially striking. ABC and Gibson focused on Palin as if she were running right now for the presidency rather than the vice presidency. He and other media pundits, by contrast, have never asked the Democratic vice presidential nominee, Sen. Joe Biden of Delaware, if he has ever had to make a decision on anything.
“Gibson’s aggressive approach appeared to take Palin by surprise: He was clearly attempting to put her on point by presenting her as having extreme religious views. This again, however, appears to be a double-standard, as Palin grew up in the Assemblies of God, one of the largest Christian denominations in America with 16 million members, and is now a member of the Wasilla Bible Church. Even now, Obama has yet to receive any comparable grilling on his 20-year attendance in the congregation of the notoriously racist Rev. Jeremiah Wright.”
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And now the ideologues at The Atlantic is becoming completely unashamed of their “media malfeasance,” too. Actually, this is becoming almost a daily occurrence and would be pretty funny to observe if it wasn’t so reminiscent of “1984″ and Pravda.
Gerard Vanderleun posts about some quite amazing perfidy from The Atlantic and photographer Jill Greenberg, whose photo shoot with John McCain was deliberately set up to produce ominous, threatening pictures—by using outright trickery: Out-Takes: Behind The Atlantic’s McCain Cover.
At Photo District News, there’s an article with more details, and Greenberg’s own words about this disgraceful episode: PDNPulse: How Jill Greenberg Really Feels About John McCain.
Jeffrey Goldberg wakes up and notices that the leftist craziness The Atlantic has been encouraging has suddenly bitten the magazine on its back side: About that McCain Photo.
“Like others at the Atlantic, I was appalled to read about the actions of Jill Greenberg, the freelance photographer who took the cover portrait that illustrates my article about John McCain. Greenberg doctored photographs of McCain she took during her Atlantic-arranged shoot, which took place last month in Las Vegas. She has posted these doctored photographs on her website, which you can go find yourself, if you must. Suffice it to say that her “art” is juvenile, and on occasion repulsive. This is not the issue, of course; the issue is that she betrayed this magazine, and disgraced her profession.”
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Religious difference drives otherwise sane people crazy. The fact that some of my neighbors pursue salvation in a way that differs from my own is hard to contemplate without anxiety. Could it be that they are right and I am wrong? If I am right, as I think I am, shouldn’t I try to save them? Above all, how on earth can we live together in an uncertain and dangerous world without agreeing on fundamental principles about life’s purpose and meaning?
Excerpt from review titled:
“The American Revolution of Roger Williams,” by Martha C. Nussbaum, published in The New Republc, September 10, 2008
As someone who is not that smart and not that educated, I am always excited to find a person much smarter and much more educated than I am, agreeing with me. But how can I tell they are right?
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Adios: Enjoy your virtual cappucino!
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Last weekend, I posted a challenge, especially to Victoria, but I offer it also to anyone else at worldmagblog.
I just finished reading a cheerful book: Blood and Soil: A World History of Genocide and Extermination from Sparta to Darfur by Ben Kiernan, founding director of the Yale University Genocide Studies Program.
Victoria felt that I made light of death in a carelessly written comment on the “Rants and Raves” topic last Saturday; though I think it was not really disrespectful of death. In any case, Victoria is a strong pro-life advocate. I am working on some thoughts about abortion I will publish on another day. However, I will say that I think opposing genocide is also pro-life. To oppose anti-life, one must study and understand it anti-life behavior.
My offer to Victoria (and to anyone else is this): For each chapter of Kiernan’s book you read, I will refrain from posting messages that irritate you for a week.
Fine print:
a) Post an approximately 200-300 word comment of reaction to the chapter you read to demonstrate you read it. Agree or disagree with what you read, fine.
b) Write a coherent brief explanation of what you don’t want me to post. I’m assuming that Victoria does not want me to make fun of death, but I will read and react based on what she says to me.
c) I realize this is extortion. This comment is slightly under 300 words, to give you a sense of scale. This is a serious message, to show how serious I am in this offer.
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On the topic of abortion, I repeat a request I made a few days ago. I don’t think I got any responses, but I may have missed them.
To understand different points of view and to slightly lower my level of idiocy, I plan to read three books on the topic of abortion. I request your suggestions (anyone) on books to use.
1) Pro-life. My first impulse is to use Olasky’s book. Does anyone have a book you consider a better choice to represent the pro-life point of view?
2) Pro-choice. Does anyone have a suggestion for a book to read that represents the “pro-choice” point of view. If you want to tell me that the word “pro-choice” really means “pro-death” that is fine. I will read your comment with attention.
3) Fairly objective “taking neither side” analysis or summary of the issue.
Thank you in advance for your suggestions. To make sure I receive and don’t overlook your suggestions, you can also email them to my “on line discussion” email address: eman_modnar@yahoo.com .
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RN–
What’s the time limit on the genocide book? I’ve put it on reserve at the library.
I’ll think about the pro-life books. One I haven’t read in a long time but which made a pretty big impact on me was David Reardon’s Silent No More, but it’s old and probably out of print. Olasky’s book has a good overview of the history of abortion in the US, with some surprising information.
And yes, being against genocide is definitely a pro-life position. It’s just hard to influence despots–no matter where they live.
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Michelle,
Thank you for your thoughtful reply.
I don’t have any particular time limit in mind. However, as I am 64 years old, you should keep my personal expiration date (a little vague, I admit) in mind. Though the book is worth reading whether or not I “reward” you. In any case, once I die, you won’t have to worry about my posting irritating messages any more.
I had an email exchange with Kiernan (the author) over the weekend. Among other comments I apologized for checking the book out of the library instead of buying it. (It’s $40. Genocide is expensive; all those bullets and knives and machetes and bombs and so on.)
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“I will say that I think opposing genocide is also pro-life.”
It is indeed. I’ll check the library to see if Kiernan’s book is available. Sounds like a good read.
As for abortion books, never read any. Being the mother of seven this issue has never really seemed to me to be above anybody’s pay scale. From the moment I first knew I was expecting I knew my hubby and I could only produce humans. What the fetus was has always seemed kind of “Duh!” issue.
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This is rather odd. It’s a YouTube video from a TV special back in 1985. Called The Mysterious Stranger, it’s a claymation adaptation of Mark Twain’s short story of the same name. What’s odd about it is that the main character calls himself Satan, but he acts just like Jehovah.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqi5F5MqqTQ&feature=related
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First things first this morning.
The winner of this past weekends “College Football Saturday” contest is:
The Real AJ
He guessed the winners of 4 of the 5 games correctly, and he came the closest on the Tennessee score, being off by only 3 points.
Congratulations The Real AJ!
He wins the first warm, gooey, fresh off the campfire digital S’more of the 2008 college football season. Enjoy!
There will be a new contest this Friday on Whirled Views, and everyone is invited to participate.
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Random – I hope you’re not planning to expire anytime soon. Some of us would miss you.
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If Kiernan doesn’t already know, you can pass along the message that the French can get you a great deal on machetes.
And the UN has a lot of blindfolds . . .
I apologize in advance; I don’t mean to start the day sarcastic. Sigh.
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Thanks for all the fine birthday wishes, and I am, indeed a half century plus one year and delighted to be here. The firewood gathering is my absolute favorite way of celebrating my birthday. Friends and family in the woods, working and playing and fellowshipping together. A campfire and varied lunch in the middle of the day, some talk at various levels and back to work. The best.
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I’m glad your birthday was so much fun, Mumsee, with the added benefit of firewood. How nice to have friends and family to do that with.
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Davids post above is one that makes me really wish my dad were still alive so I could discuss it with him. I find it encouraging that the Lefts dirty trickery is finally being exposed. The internet can be a wonderful tool for this. I went and looked at some of the photos and they were appalling. If it had been done to Obama oH! the screams and shouting.
I also learned something else alarming this weekend and will risk being seen as racist to share it with you. A good friend of mine telecommutes to work. Her office is actually in Atlanta and one of her friends there (who is a black woman) has forgotten that she has my friend on her broadcast email. Certain department stores in Atlanta and the surrounding area have “Black Shopping Days” where black people get discounts that are not offered to the general population. Recently the coworker sent out an email about if your home had been foreclosed to bring two forms of identification to the polls that “they” (read the Republicans) were going to turning people away at the polls. I don’t know about the rest of the country but I have never in any election I have participated in seen anyone told they cannot vote. I have seen the poll workers go above and beyond to help someone vote.
I find this whole thing very disturbing.
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Welcome to Part 2 of my 4-part series on why we should not return the Republicans to power in November. This particular essay will run from today through Friday.
As a reminder:
I’ve thought long and hard about what I wanted to say and why. Primarily, what I post will be rhetorical in nature to get my point across, not to argue with folks. In fact, it’s completely irrelevant whether anyone responds or not. (That’s not to say I won’t respond to what people say, it’s just not the purpose). As for why I’m writing this series, there are three reasons:
1. It’s to clarify in my mind exactly why I’m going to vote a particular way.
2. It’s being written for the passer-by who maybe is still debating as to which way they should vote in this election.
3. It’s my final chance before the election to respond to the 8 years of (mis)rule by the Republicans. I have no illusions that I can change anyone’s mind, especially the CCR’s.
The topics I’m going to write about were not picked out of a hat at random. I’ve kept a list over the last 6 months of things I wanted to cover. There were a ton of things that deserved recognition, but I was able to group them into 8 broader categories. Over a 4 week period I will give 4 reasons for why one should not reward the Republicans with another term of the Presidency. Then following 4 weeks after that I will give 4 reasons for why the Democrats should be given a chance to run the show. I didn’t want to be totally negative or totally positive, which is why I chose 4 positive themes and 4 negative themes.
Finally, I should note that these thoughts are my own, not copied from any partisan website or “talking points” memo.
With apologies to Random Name for stealing his “long form” discourse on here, it’s time to get on with the show:
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ABUSE OF POWER
If there is one thing that the Republicans and the Bush/Cheney Administration have become infamous for over the last 8 years, it’s the abuse of power. One of the drawbacks to one party (Democrats or Republicans) being in power so long is that they start abusing their power.
1. Secret Energy Task Force – President Bush created the secret Energy Task Force with Dick Cheney as it’s chairman. It met with oil company executives (to supposedly plan our national energy policy), with whom both Bush and Cheney had extensive ties and had received substantial campaign contributions from. It was done in extreme secrecy. Congress tried to investigate, but was rebuffed. Some of the oil company executives denied that they had met with Cheney, but it was later revealed through documents obtained by the Washington Post that they had met with the ETF. Even some conservative groups tried to get information on it and were rebuffed. To this day, no one knows what happened.
2. K Street Project – The Republican Party got Washington lobbying firms to hire Republicans, which in exchange, gave them access to influential congressional and White House officials. In some cases, the lobbying firms wrote the bills that the Republicans presented to the House and Senate. Tom Delay was one of the big organizers of the scheme.
3. Politicizing science – Everything from “dumbing down” environmental reports, to denying the existence of global warming, to letting politics take precedence over sound medical research, to intimidating scientist at the CDC, to censoring sound medical information on birth control and abortion from websites like the CDC, to lowering the standard on the levels of arsenic in water (under the guise of “reform”), to the false “Clear Skies Initiative” (which is anything but), to letting even more snowmobiles into our National Parks against the advice of environmental scientists, have all contributed to the politicization of science in this country to our detriment.
4. DOJ & Monica Goodling – The recent revelations that interns for the Dept. of Justice were screened for their political affiliations shows a profound lack of respect for the independence of the judiciary. Then you had Monica Goodling admitting that she took into account the political affiliations of career attorney’s for DOJ jobs. Monica was the one who ordered those ridiculous blue drapes to cover the “Spirit of Justice” statues in the DOJ.
5. “Executive Privilege” – The Bush administration has made “Executive Privilege” a hallmark of their 8-year reign. They have used it to evade legitimate congressional oversight and create a culture of secrecy around the White House that we haven’t seen since Nixon.
6. Signing statements – Bush has issued more than 100 signing statements since he became President, far more than any previous President. It’s his way of exempting himself from the laws that Congress legitimately passed. The legality of the signing statements has never been determined, but the sheer number of them is a direct slap a the people’s business.
7. Civil liberties/Warrantless wiretaps – Everything from the Patriot Act, to the FBI’s surveillance of anti-war groups and individuals, to the wiretaps without court approval, to the explosion of National Security Letters, to the granting of immunity to the Telecoms, to the NSA’s data mining program, have eroded the strong civil rights protections of each one of us.
8. Renditions and secret prisons – The rendition of people to third world countries that practice torture and the establishment of secret prisons in Europe and elsewhere is a hallmark of the Bush administration.
9. Torture – Without a doubt, the most immoral thing that the United States has engaged in. It will be to President Bush’s everlasting shame.
10. “Enemy combatants” – President Bush declared that he, as President, has the authority to designate anyone, including American citizens, as an “Enemy Combatant” and detain them secretly, without legal counsel or recourse in the judicial system.
11. US Attorney firings – Seven US Attorneys were fired by the Bush Administration in December 2006 for political reasons. The Attorney General (Alberto Gonzalez), Deputy Attorney General (Paul McNulty), and their Chief’s of Staff were some of the fall-out from that. The case is still open.
12. The case for the War in Iraq – Of all the blunders of the Iraq war, this was the one of the most serious. As we’ve come to find out, the case for the war in Iraq was built on faulty and misleading information.
13. Valarie Plame – The bottom line is that the Bush administration revealed the name of a covert CIA agent in an attempt to discredit her husband’s report that the “yellow cake” story in Niger was false.
14. Political appointees to non-partisan jobs – One quote sums it up: “Brownie, you’re doing a heck-of-a job!”. The Bush administration made took the hiring of political appointees to non-partisan jobs to new heights.
Enough!
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I finally got around to watching the Palin/Gibson interview.
Unfortunately for Republicans, Palin did not aquit herself well, IMO. That should’ve been enough to put a damper on the enthusiasm for her candidacy. Unfortunately for the Democrats, however, Gibson came across as incredibly condescending, if not downright rude. His manner and tone made it clear he wasn’t even close to being objective. He had made up his mind that Palin was woefully unqualified and he was going to prove it to the world. He was like “look, you dumb broad, do you seriously expect anyone to think you’re qualified to be dogcatcher, let alone one heartbeat away from the presidency?” Has Gibson – or any other media figure – ever treated Obama, who’s running for P not VP – in any manner that comes even close to this? No, they haven’t. They’ve treated him with kid gloves.
So, even though Palin didn’t do well in the interview, the net effect is that it was a plus for her, because Gibson’s condescension generated more sympathy for Palin than her incompetence generated skepticism.
Gibson blew it. He could’ve asked the very same questions, but without the same tone, and blown Palin out of the water. But he had to show what a tough guy he was toward a cultural conservative, and by doing so, he wound up hoist on his own petard.
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Oh, and the firewood is not just for us. There are several families involved getting wood for each other, you might call it a communist effort. You might not.
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My husband made an interesting observation on the drive from South Carlina yesterday. This was during the run on the gas stations. He said that almost everyone who blew past him, faster then the speed limit was either a young college student or someone with an Obama sticker on the car.
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RN: Pro Life Answers to Pro Choice Arguments, Randy Alcorn.
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I checked the links on David L” post #5. I find it appalling that some people will stoop to unprofessional tactics to smear a presidential candidate. I would be just as appalled if this attack came from the right aimed toward the left.
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RN- I don’t know if you can find it, as it was published in the 70s, but Dr C. Everett Koop (former Surgeon General) coauthored a book with Francis Schaeffer Whatever Happened to the Human Race. (I see it is available from Amazon for around $5.) He also wrote Right to Live, Right to Die on abortion and euthenasia, but I only see a Spanish version on Amazon. I have read both and found them full of solid arguments. (If you don’t know, Schaeffer was considered one of the great thinking minds of Christianity in the 20th Century.)
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Just a message for Spinoza.
I wanted to leave you an apology as I have been very busy with work and out of town and have not even had the opportunity to check any responses much less hop on worldmag lately.
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Random,
A fairly succinct, good pro-life book is Who Broke the Baby? by Jean Staker Carton (at least two editions available).
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Now that I’ve read DavidL’s posts at 4 and 5, at least I understand what’s going on. Thanks David.
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Mumsee, #22, I call it Community Effort.
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On Anlir’s statement, “denying the existence of global warming…”
The whole global warming scam is quite annoying, but I thought that even the mainstream scientists were calling this “phenomenon” simply “global climate change” instead of global warming, and now revert to the former theory that we are in the middle of an ice age, but that the awaited warming of the planet will happen in 10-15 years or so. Now it’s not just John Coleman (founder of the Weather Channel) and conservatives like Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, and others who are pointing out the absence of a warming planet (at least as drastically as shown). But some people refuse to be convinced, so this topic is useless to discuss here.
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#4 David L,
The left and their DNC controlled NSM propaganda mouthpiece will do anything to win this election for Obama. They will be shooting people in the streets if necessary. They have no self control, no shame and can never be satisfied.
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Don’t try to get Obama on the phone today. The OJ trial started and he is praying for OJ to get off so he can be his athletic advisor.
Plus, Obama knows the MSM is going to try and destroy Plain as best they can over the next few days and it best to show Obama praying for someone, they wont say it was for OJ and let you think he is praying for Plain, instead
You got to love these nitwits.
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Thank you for the smore Anlir. I look forward to this weeks contest. But not nearly as much as watching the Irish go 3-0.
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And since I’m feeling a little bit like an expert on college football today, I will make a bold prediction. On 11-29-08, the last game of the regular season, I’m picking the upset of the year. ND 28 USC 21. You heard it here first.
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They will be shooting people in the streets if necessary.
Boy, if that isn’t the truth! Every time there’s a Democrat in the White House millions of Republican end up being slaughtered in the streets. If that Obama guy wins, no doubt the Democrats will go on another rampage. I predict upwards to 20 million Republicans will lose their lives if the Democrats win this time. That’s why the Democratic Party selected “There Will Be Blood!” as their campaign theme for 2008.
Don’t say Llama didn’t warn y’all.
Heh.
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Kim, I have been voting since I was 18. I voted in the primary and local elections this past June. I recently received a notice that I am not registered to vote. I mailed in my registration form, and I plan to go to Newark tomorrow to make sure I’m registered.
It made national news today that NJ is up for grabs, so no, I am not surprised that the Democrats in charge of this state would pull something like this.
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Adios writes: “As for abortion books, never read any. Being the mother of seven this issue has never really seemed to me to be above anybody’s pay scale.”
And when he was in the Illinois legislature, it wasn’t above Obama’s either. Go to LifeNews and you’ll find a direct quote of Obama on viability. And should you survive the abortion, no help is coming if he’s in charge.
So, I’m guessing that “above my payscale” answer is what some would call a lie. But you don’t see the MSM calling him on it, do you?
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Llamas, as of last Friday, are now 80% cash. The only US investments are mortgage collateralized bonds purchased for 20% on the dollar. What a great country. Where on earth could you get the chance to make 5 times your investment in a year?
Facts. Crude is down 37% in price from the high. Wholesale gasoline prices are down 26% from the high but retail gasoline is only down 5% in price. It seems your local retailer has decided to stick it to you even though the price of the fuel they buy is way way down. Some folks want to make as much money as possible even if Americans get hurt and they want to make even more when Americans should be getting a break like now – but aren’t. No question, speculators have left the crude market for the wholesale gasoline pit where they can still make a few persent but it is the nretailer who is sticking it to you now.
These wall streeters, hedge funds and, probably the worst, pension funds, do not have your best interests at heart – but neither doies the retailer. They have their own best interests at heart.
Yep they are always lined up against you but you just never knew or realized it before. Luckily it doesn’t take much to beat them. Their greed always gets them.
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I am extremely worried after viewing this latest Obama anti-McCain commericial. It appears that McCain is not up to speed on computers, according to this campaign ad.
This is a clear indication of the lack of McCain’s qualification for the office of President of the United STates.
After all, it is a well-known fact that the President of the United States is personally responsible for maintaining the computers and laptops in the White House (along with some other less important side duties like being Commander-in-Chief and stuff like that). For instance, the POTUS is required to pick up any ordered computer received in the White House Mail Office, load it up on a dolly, deliver it to the office which ordered the computer, unbox it, set it up, install any requested software and follow up with the person receiving the computer on any questions regarding the operating system or software problems. In fact, the President of the United States is personally responsible for handling and processing all IT-related complaints and requests within the Department of Defense/White House/State Department. For instance, if anyone in the White House (also the Pentagon) has problems with opening a document or creating a powerpoint slide, it is the President of the United State’s personal responsibility to resolve the problem over the phone and, if necessary, to go to the office in question and straighten the problem out. The president is also required to make ethernet cables on request, annually clean all the keyboards and screens of all desktops and laptops in the White House and the Pentagon, keep the computer supply cabinents full and stocked, and take any cardboard computer boxes out to the recycle bins behind the White House before he goes home at night.
So the fact that McCain is not really into computers really worries me greatly and I am REALLY appreciative of the Obama campaign for pointing out this terrible problem – I do not see how McCain could fulfil the most important duties of the POTUS, which is being the main IT go-to guy for the White House, DoD and the State Department.
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RN,
I meant to suggest Olasky’s book–I can loan you my copy if it’s unavailable and you choose to read it. I like the overarching historical look at abortion from colonial times forward, rather than just focusing on the last thirty years–more perspective.
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#15 Klasko
Thank you. I do a half-hour to an hour on the treadmill most days. I take omega-3 fish oil. I take calcium. I take blood pressure pills. I abuse Nautilus machines. My wife won’t let me use the chain saw unless she watches so she can yell at me when I do something dangerous. I only shoot bunnies, and just the small ones at that. I don’t pray, but I try and think a good thought now and then. Although we are about 80% incompatible, my wife and I will celebrate our 43rd year of marriage at Thanksgiving. My daughter still speaks with me, and my granddaughter has me on probation. I have appointments to see an urologist and get a colonoscopy (oh, boy, that’s what I call a treat) next month. I will not check my stock portfolio today. My blood pressure is lower than it has been for about 20 years.
That’s the good news.
Almost every day I read worldmagblog. Oh-oh.
Seriously, thank you for the kind wishes.
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Thank you to everyone else for all the reading suggestions. I suppose I will have to go check the Planned Parenthood web site to get unhealthy and immoral reading suggestions on the other side.
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Drill, Rush says McCain can’t use a computer because he’s disabled in one arm and can’t use a keyboard.
I wonder if that would inhibit his ability to dial the SecDef or SecState in an emergency. Nobody’s talking about that.
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Obama should pick a position and stick with it.
http://www.nypost.com/seven/09152008/postopinion/opedcolumnists/obama_tried_to_stall_gis_iraq_withdrawal_129150.htm
“WHILE campaigning in public for a speedy withdrawal of US troops from Iraq, Sen. Barack Obama has tried in private to persuade Iraqi leaders to delay an agreement on a draw-down of the American military presence.
According to Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari, Obama made his demand for delay a key theme of his discussions with Iraqi leaders in Baghdad in July.
“He asked why we were not prepared to delay an agreement until after the US elections and the formation of a new administration in Washington,” Zebari said in an interview.”
And;
“While in Iraq, Obama also tried to persuade the US commanders, including Gen. David Petraeus, to suggest a “realistic withdrawal date.” They declined.
Obama has made many contradictory statements with regard to Iraq. His latest position is that US combat troops should be out by 2010. Yet his effort to delay an agreement would make that withdrawal deadline impossible to meet.”
I think BO might be buying the messiah hype that his followers are spewing. He wants it delayed is so he can be the savior who brought the troops home. He’s gotta win to pull that off though. He’ll probably claim credit for the troops winning the war as well. He wants the troops home, but only if they can be used as a prop. Otherwise he doesn’t seem concerned. And he can’t stand the idea that they might come home early, and that Repubs might get credit. Can’t have that, now can we BO?
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Llama, you should take some of your profits and publish your Mouth Breather’s Manifesto, and have it distributed to every household in America.
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Chas, if that’s the case, I’m sure McCain can use his other hand and fingers to use a phone.
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CHRISTOPHER TORCHIA
AP News
Sep 15, 2008 15:15 EST
BAGHDAD (AP) — A suicide bomber blew herself up Monday among police officers who were celebrating the release of a comrade from U.S. custody, killing at least 22 people, Iraqi officials said. Separate bombings in Iraq killed 13 other people.
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Let’s see. Quadriplegics drive cars and use computers. It isn’t that McSame can’t use a computer. It’s that he doesn’t know how. He’s too lazy and incurious to bother learning.
Seriously. You guys can’t use POW for everything. It’s just silly.
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You know, McCain is a smart guy. If he needs to start World War V (we won WWIII and we’re in WWIV right now), he will tell one of the Secret Servicemen, “Push that red button.”
Secret Servicemen do what the President tells them to do, unless it’s something stupid that would put the President’s life in danger. Trust me on this; it will all work out.
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OK,Random, what was WWIII?
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Victoria, that would work.
I might ask a secretary to get the SecDef for me.
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Here are some rather interesting videos on Palin’s Church. Certainly not like my church!
“Palin and the Holy Laughter Anointing”
Sarah Palin’s Churches and The Third Wave
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woops wrong thread. sorry!
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Lumpy, I have carpal tunnel, and if I had to type for a living, i.e., secretarial work, all day, I couldn’t do it.
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I will pray for you to be healed, or at least that you not become unemployed and forced to be a secretary, NJL.
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NJL-
McCain’s inability to use a computer does not appear to be POW related. A lack of interest would be my guess.
“I am learning to get online myself, and I will have that down fairly soon, getting on myself,” McCain told the New York Times in an interview that appeared Sunday. “I don’t expect to be a great communicator, I don’t expect to set up my own blog, but I am becoming computer literate to the point where I can get the information that I need.”
Even so, McCain bluntly admits, “I don’t e-mail. I’ve never felt the particular need to e-mail.”
That latter admission is surprisingly frank given that most people on Capitol Hill constantly keep up with work, and each other, via their BlackBerries.
McCain has been the object of much ridicule by liberals in the past month because of his frank admission in a Yahoo/Politico interview that he’s computer illiterate.
More recently, his aide Mark Soohoo was mocked mercilessly when he said at a politics and technology conference that McCain was “aware of the internet.”
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