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Whirled Views 10.4
One month until Election Day!
(Thank goodness…I am so over this two-year campaign…)
Today’s quote is from a British author and theologian: “When you come to knowing God, the initiative lies on His side. If He does not show Himself, nothing you can do will enable you to find Him.”
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Good morning, dear Lynn…….Methinks the quote if from my FAVE British author / theologian, C. S. Lewis.
My name is Theophilus, and I approve this messege
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I KNEW THAT!
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Has anyone started considering who the front runners are for the 2012 campaign? Hillary Clinton? Zeb Bush? Nancy Pelosi? John Lieberman? Sarah Palin?
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3. I’m hoping Mike Huckabee will be back.
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Oh yes, how could I forget Huckabee! Shall we start campaigning for him now and get an even bigger jump on the competition?
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If it’s not Lewis, my guess is going to be for J.I. Packer (though he technically lives in Canada now).
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Packer, since the quote includes the phrase, “knowing God.”
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So no one assumes that Sarah Palin will still be a political force to factor in your predictions? Fair enough, I dont think anyone foresaw Dan Quayle as the annointed candidate after his Veep term.
I’m surprised neither Dan or Marilyn Quayle were trotted out as “consultants” or “analysts” in the manner we see Newt or Gerry Ferraro making the talking head circuit.
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Well, George Stephanopoulos didn’t count Palin out after the debate. He didn’t seem to think she’ll be going away. She’s a plucky person who takes hits very well and people like her. All she has to do is come into her own, and if they win this November (and I think that still may be possible because the MSM is playing fast and loose with polls), she’ll shine. McCain was secure enough to choose her, he works for the country, and if she has talent (and she does), he’ll utilize that and give her credit.
I think Geraldine Ferraro has been fair in her defense of Palin, someone with whom she does not agree politically.
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I could use some prayers today. I am having a hard day emotionally and have some decisions to make.
Also I could use some wisdom as a mother on how to handle my child being the mean, vindictive child and hurting her best friends feelings and infuriating that mother. My child was clearly in the wrong (how many parents are willing to admit that?) and I need wisdom and tact to show Chloe the error of what she did. Luckily her father has her this weekend and has dealt with most of it. She called me last night to make sure I still loved her. I told her I always love her but right now I am VERY disappointed. I told her to imagine what it would be like if she and this child were not friends. They have been friends since kindergarted and Chloe has been welcomed into their home and treated as one of the family to the point she even has a toothbrush residing over there.
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Kim, I’m not a mom, but I would suggest that you call the other parents, maybe even talk to the child, and tell them that you know Chloe was wrong and that you are upset about the whole situation, too. Once Chloe understands that what she did was wrong, she should apologize, but not be forced. Let her stew until she realizes she hurt her friend. When she has no one to play with, it’ll hit home. But I would find out why Chloe said or did whatever was said or done. Maybe she’s jealous that the other child has her family is all together? Maybe she’s upset about something else? Something triggered this.
In any event, you have my prayers.
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Christian Nation Debate on Opposing Views:
The website “Opposing Views” has a good debate on the Christian Nation question. Perhaps it’s because of my bias, but I believe the “no” side is clearly winning the debate. The experts are, for the “yes” side, Dr. Paul S. Vickery, History Prof., Oral Roberts University, and for the “no” side, Dr. William Martin, Harry and Hazel Chavanne Emeritus Professor of Religion and Public Policy in the Department of Sociology at Rice University.
Brief notes: Not only did Dr. Vickery cite David Barton for his position, but also a figure named Catherine Millard whose shoddiness puts Barton to shame.
On the other hand, this is my favorite post from Dr. Martin on putting the key Founders’ quotations in context. Check out who gets footnote #2 (hint, me).
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Sometimes the hardest part about being a mother is knowing when to speak and when to stay silent. Telling her you loved her, always, even when you’re disappointed with her choices and behavior will go a long way over the course of her life. And spending time with a logical father in the midst of all the weird girl drama is a TERRIFIC idea!
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On a similar subject, I’m teaching a topical Bible study this fall on the subject of miracles.
We’re using the Lifelight (Lutheran BSF) materials which define a miracle as “extraordinary, supernatural acts of God with a purpose. Miracles are signs, pointing us to God’s identity, messengers and truths.”
I’m starting each lesson by telling the story of a miracle. I wonder if any of you have one to share (and that I can use) that falls into that definition?
Thanks.
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Michelle I have shared my miracle many times on this site. You may use it if you like. I was not able to get pregnant. It was a situation of two negatives not making a positive. I have never ovulated on a regular basis. George has an extremely low sperm count. God opened the doors in many little ways. I kept our struggle hidden for a while but I am not one to suffer long in silence so eventually it got out. First a friend had gone through infertility and directed me to a doctor who told me he could help and he was going to pray for us and he was going to try to use Georges sperm rather than donor. Second there was a revival that lasted several years at Brownsville Assembly of God in Pensacola…I never went put mine and Georges picture was placed on the alter asking for a baby. There came a point when we simply could not afford to go any further…the medicine was too expensive. I shared with a co-worker at lunch one day what was going on, she went home that afternoon, checked her mail and on the cover of Kiplinger’s Report was “The High Cost of Infertility” people going to Canada and Mexico to buy their medicines. My friend Lisa was getting married and going to Mexico on her honeymoon. What would have cost us $3,000 for one months supply cost us $700 for three months supply. When we needed it again my mother in law remembered that friends of hers had a second home in Mexico. I also have a friend who speaks 5 languages and was born in Panama so he called the pharmacia and lined everything up and 3 months only cost $500 that time. I had another coworker who had the TV on one Sunday morning as she was getting dressed for church and the minister on TV was saying something about a chapter in Leviticus to read and pray over anyone who was trying to have a baby. So she did.
I kept telling my doctor that I wasn’t a 28 day kind of gal but he kept scheduling the inseminations on day 14. In December of 1996 he was scheduled to go to Germany hunting. Everything got confused and I ended up having the insemination on day 16 rather than 14 and Miss Chloe Catherine Cotten was conceived at 10:30 am December 18, at Providence hospital. That is why later when I found out there was a chance she might have Downs I could not say Dear God please send me a baby. Whooops You sent the wrong one.
Every mother thinks their child is special but I have had complete strangers walk up to me and ask me if I knew how special that baby was? It can really “freak you out”.
There were many other little things that happened along the way but I can’t think of all of them right now.
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#3- chalzz, A pox on you for stirring up the 2012 fires. Let’s get through this one, and then wait for at least two years before even mentioning any presidential campaigns. Henceforth any mention of 2012 will be mnet with screams of horror! (like this:
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#10- Mark, did you change blogs? BTW- The link you left on the Rants and Raves thead goes to a Spanish blog of the same name as your link here (at least I presume the names are intended to be translations of each other).
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I miss the Saturday meditation thread.
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Can I register now for 2012 and mail in my ballot, just to get a head start? Also, just in case the postal system is no longer working by that date? For all I know, my ballot would be the only one that gets through and my one vote would decide the entire 2012 election.
Who did you want me to vote for? How much is it worth to you? Just write to me that the check is in the mail and we’ll be good to go. Of course, I will only vote once.
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I know one man in Nevada who is really really sad to realize that Johnny Cochran is.. dead.
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This is a silly post.
As it is Saturday, and we are on the way to the Greater Depression, I have declared myself dictator while no one was looking. As we don’t keep slaves any more, it is appropriate to re-decide the War between the States and declare each state the winner and give each state the right to secede.
Each state will be renamed after a Founding Father. (Well, OK, Founding Mothers will be eligible, also.) This will be known henceforth as the Great Renaming.
Jon Rowe is assigned to provide me with a list of the Founding Parents who weren’t Christians, or if they were Christians, were really Deists in Desguise. Joel Mark can give me a list of the Founding Parents who were REALLY REALLY REALLY Christians.
As I have made myself dictator, I will rename two states. Rhode Island will be renamed to Old Williams (in honor of Roger Williams) and Washington (where I live) will be renamed New Williams because it will be inconvenient for me to move to Old Williams. However, I am debating whether to rename them as East Williams and West Williams. Your input will be cheerfully disregarded on this matter.
Whereever Joel lives will be renamed Christian Washington. Wherever Jon Rowe lives will be renamed Deist Washington.
Wherever Victoria lives will be named Victorious Mother —. That blank will be filled in with whatever Founding Mother Victoria deems most appropriate. (If you thought I meant something else, wash your mouth out with soap. Wash out your mind, as well, while you are at it.)
Once all the states are renamed, everyone will have to move to the state that best represents their most important values.
According to Ben Kiernan, Thomas Jefferson had a taste for genocide, so people who feel like exterminating other races will get to move to the state of Jefferson (whereever that state ends up being after the Great Renaming). (See pages 328-329 in Blood and Soil for some juicy Jefferson quotes.)
Nick Peters’ state will be named after whichever founding father was REALLY, REALLY WHITE. Nick can decide which Founder that was.
I was having difficult deciding which state (or states) will be assigned for all homosexuals to move to. It’s difficult to find appropriate Founding Fathers and Founding Mothers. For one thing, parenting requires a Husband and a Wife. Also, homosexuality was punishable by death in the colonial period.
I take as my reference noted scholar Paul Cameron, Ph.D. Dr. Cameron is Chariman of the Family Research Institute of Colorado Springs, Colorado. I am not posting a link here so 1) I don’t excite the wmb link checker and 2) so I don’t shock gentle Christians because of the shocking words and examples appearing at Dr. Cameron’s web site.
So apparently, most Founding homosexual founders were hiding in the closet. The best I can do is to cite Lord Cornbury, colonial Governor of New York and New Jersey, often described as a transvestite. However, that claim appears to have been debunked. Check a web site called “The Straight Dope.” (Which may be taking us to another place we don’t want to go.)
Apparently, there were no homosexuals in colonial America. The best I can offer is Puerto Rico and Guam. As Puerto Rico is known as a “Commonwealth” we will send American Communists there. All American homosexuals will go to the territory of Guam.
From Wikipedia [desribing Guam]:
Traditional Chamorro culture is visually manifested in dance, sea navigation, unique cuisine, fishing, games (such as batu, chonka, estuleks, and bayogu), songs and fashion influenced by the immigration of peoples from other lands. Spanish policy during colonial rule (1668-1898) was one of conquest and conversion to Roman Catholicism. This led to the gradual elimination of Guam’s male warriors and displacement of the Chamorro people from their lands. In spite of the social upheavals, Guam’s matriarchs — known as “I Maga’håga” — continued the indigenous culture, language, and traditions. A lot of the Chamorro culture today is a spin off of Spanish, Mexican, and Filipino cultures. In fact, many of the islands Chamorros today have some Spanish, Mexican, and Filipino ancestry.
Sounds pretty gay to me. Guam will be renamed the Gay Closet Territory and all homosexuals will be required to relocate there. The territory will by divided into four areas:
West Dyke
East Gaf
South Bi
North Transgender
and the inhabitants will sort themselves accordingly.
Unmarried people will move to the Virgin Islands, which will be Renamed after whichever Founding Father or Mother was most virginal. I admit this is getting most difficult, but I am depending on Joel to go all the way when it comes to advising on me what name to use for Renaming the Virgin Islands.
This is the end of a silly post. Fortunately, nobody who is anybody reads worldmagblog on Saturday.
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“Fortunately, nobody who is anybody reads worldmagblog on Saturday.
Thanks a lot, Random.
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Karen, if you actually read my entire post, as unelected dictator, I now promote you to Somebody.
Under my administration as dictator of the Successfully Seceded States, you are now in the Cabinet. Coming out of the Cabinet is even better than coming out of the Closet.
You look lovely, in your Cabinet, by the way.
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RN at #18 says;
“Can I register now for 2012 and mail in my ballot, just to get a head start?”
No, unless you live in Ohio. If you live there, you can pretty much do anything you want in the voting category. Including voting while homeless and without ID. You shouldn’t have any trouble, unless you’re registered Republican. If that’s the case, you can mail it, but they won’t count it. Ya gotta love it when Dems run the election office. Unless you’re against vote fraud that is.
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RN – I’m upset that you didn’t mention me for a job. (pout pout).
Karen looks so lovely in her cabinet because she’s a little teapot.
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Have you all seen this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUEQz5dltmI
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Random, having had several years of heat, humidity, typhoons, mosquitoes, no electricity or running water for several months, and other discomforts in that “island paradise,” I am not exactly eager to return to Guam, so I wouldn’t exactly be at a loss if your plan was enacted. However, as a few friends are there…
And although you clearly aren’t a thug or a terrorist, don’t become a totalitarian tyrant who kills innocent people, or you’ll have to be assassinated to free the people…
But I’m sure you’re not likely to join the ranks of Mao, Hitler, Pol Pot, Stalin and others who have killed many people…and even those who haven’t killed as many people, but still quite a few, such the Columbine killers, etc.
But I doubt you’re that evil, right?
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Random,
You are in rare form today. Have you been taking your medicine?
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TRS,
Scary stuff. I guess they’re training tomorrows “community organizers” today.
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Friends,
I’m interested in your opinion on my recent post at Positive Liberty (click on my user name and scroll down) about Christopher Buckley’s child born out of wedlock, that the recently departed William F. Buckley (Chris’ father and the child’s grandfather) purposefully disinherited. From Buckley’s Will:
“I intentionally make no provision herein for said Jonathan, who for all purposes … shall be deemed to have predeceased me,…”
I think it was a pretty lame thing to do. I understand the desire to not reward the adulteress mother who helped to destroy his son’s family. But Jonathan is an innocent party in all that. I would have at least made provisions for him as an adult, in a trust that could be used for limited purposes like education or whatnot.
But I tie the story into a larger issue: This is the face of irresponsible heterosexual sex. And in the grand scheme of things, and esp. from the perspective of a religious conservative irresponsible heterosexual sex is far far graver, more socially destructive, more destructive of families, and when you count the costs of poverty and crime that is associated with out of wedlock births to young mothers, more $$ even on a per capita basis, than irresponsible homosexual sex that leads to AIDS and other STDs. So why all of the focus from religious conservatives on homosexuality?
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Today on my internet travels I found a story at American Thinker that linked to a NYTimes piece from 1999. At the time it was printed, no one knew about todays housing problems. But the writer was phrophetic in his writings, looking back in hindsight.
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C0DE7DB153EF933A0575AC0A96F958260&sec=&spon=&partner=permalink&exprod=permalink
Here’s a taste;
“Fannie Mae, the nation’s biggest underwriter of home mortgages, has been under increasing pressure from the Clinton Administration to expand mortgage loans among low and moderate income people and felt pressure from stock holders to maintain its phenomenal growth in profits.
In addition, banks, thrift institutions and mortgage companies have been pressing Fannie Mae to help them make more loans to so-called subprime borrowers. These borrowers whose incomes, credit ratings and savings are not good enough to qualify for conventional loans, can only get loans from finance companies that charge much higher interest rates — anywhere from three to four percentage points higher than conventional loans.
”Fannie Mae has expanded home ownership for millions of families in the 1990’s by reducing down payment requirements,” said Franklin D. Raines, Fannie Mae’s chairman and chief executive officer. ”Yet there remain too many borrowers whose credit is just a notch below what our underwriting has required who have been relegated to paying significantly higher mortgage rates in the so-called subprime market.”
Demographic information on these borrowers is sketchy. But at least one study indicates that 18 percent of the loans in the subprime market went to black borrowers, compared to 5 per cent of loans in the conventional loan market.
In moving, even tentatively, into this new area of lending, Fannie Mae is taking on significantly more risk, which may not pose any difficulties during flush economic times. But the government-subsidized corporation may run into trouble in an economic downturn, prompting a government rescue similar to that of the savings and loan industry in the 1980’s.”
So to our resident leftists I ask this, Are you still gonna stick with blaming this on Repubs, or will you be honest and finally place blame where it should be, at the feet of Clinton? Granted there is blame for both sides of the aisle in letting it continue, but Clinton got the ball rolling. And Dems like Barney (my gay lover is a Franny exec. but there’s no conflict) Frank lead the way in stopping reform. This is the Dems handy work.
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I’m a Somebody! And I’m in a Cabinet! I feel special.
AKMOM – I think Random has been feeding his meds to the slugs & bunnies. It’s not a pretty picture.
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TRS and AJ: Young men showing discipline, ambition and a desire to do something productive and positive with their lives … “scary stuff?”
The paranoia is strong with you.
You know, all my life I’ve been hearing people, mostly conservatives, lament that youth are aimless, unguided, drifting and anchorless. I’ve heard of various flavors of mandatory or voluntary-but-strongly-encouraged service programs for middle- and high-school students talked about as a possible solution to that for just as long. Boy Scouts, for example, is often held up as an example of something that, these social critics think, should be replicated much more widely.
But now here comes someone actually doing it, and because he’s (1) a Democrat and (2) has a funny name and (3) is charismatic, the reaction is fear and suspicion.
What do you see in that video that is scary? I see young men who I don’t fear are likely to end up either as criminals or as underachievers. There’s nothing at all scary about it that I can see.
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AJ: So to our resident leftists I ask this, Are you still gonna stick with blaming this on Repubs, or will you be honest and finally place blame where it should be, at the feet of Clinton?
This has been discussed at length on another thread. It’s bogus. Clinton’s efforts were directed at actual discrimination, where people who were perfectly well qualified to borrow money had a hard time getting loans because of their race or where they live.
Nothing about it encouraged lenders to lower their standards. They did that all on their own — enabled to an extent by deregulation and relaxed oversight that predated Clinton’s time.
The “it’s all Clinton’s fault” line, which has been the default right-wing excuse for everything bad that’s happened since 1992, will not wash except for the gullible.
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Oh and since the MSM seems to be playing mum on it, here’s a link about Barney Frank and his conflict of interest. Funny thing, when you Google “Barney Frank lover Fanny Mae executive” you get lotsa hits. It’s not till page 9 that a USNews link shows up. Other than them, and Fox on page 1, there is not one mainstream media story on this to be found. Unbiased my butt. In the tank is more like it.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,432501,00.html
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So I guess the gullible now includes the NYT too steve? Or did you miss the ““Fannie Mae, the nation’s biggest underwriter of home mortgages, has been under increasing pressure from the Clinton Administration to expand mortgage loans among low and moderate income people” part of the story? And no one said it was all Clintons fault, but he did start it rolling. Do you even read all of posts and stories before you post? Or do you just react to the first thing that frosts your butt without bothering?
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Steve,
Even Aec Baldwin knows who is at fault. He says Clinton and Barney Frank and Dems, although Repubs share some of it as well. Alec Baldwin!!! for cryin’ out loud!!! But you just don’t see it.
Warning!!!! He does some cussin’.
http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=188303
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From the New York Times, Sept 30, 1999.
“Fannie Mae, the nations underwriter of home mortgages, has been under increasing pressure from the Clinton administration to expand mortgage loans among low and moderate income people and felt felt pressure from stockholders to maintain its phenomenal growth in profits.” ….
“Fannie Mae has expanded home ownership for millions of families in the 1990’s by reducing down payment requirements, said Franklin Raines, Fannie Mae’s chairman and CEO. Yet there are too many borrowers whose credit is just a notch below what our underwriting has required who have been relegated to paying signifantly higher mortgage rates in the so-called subprime market.” (Emphasis mine.)
They go on to say that this puts them at significant risk which may not cause problems in a good economy, but “may run into trouble in a downturn.”
The NYT goes on to lament that home ownership for minorities lags behind that of non-hispanic whites due to worse credit ratings.
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Anybody is San Diego County know why that commercial plane was flying so low over the North county escorted by a military fighter jet? Just wondering.
The Air Show is down at Miramar, but that is way off course and no Blue Angel.
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And I think Rush is correct when he said that if the Democrats could find a Republican to pin this on, there would already be hearings. They know where the fault lies. Just blame it on Wall Street and everyone leaves it alone. Especially John McCain, in running his nonpartisan presidential campaign.
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AJ: Or did you miss the ““Fannie Mae, the nation’s biggest underwriter of home mortgages, has been under increasing pressure from the Clinton Administration to expand mortgage loans among low and moderate income people” part of the story?
No. But you apparently missed the part where that urging included nothing about lowering risk standards to do so.
Maybe you missed this part: In addition, banks, thrift institutions and mortgage companies have been pressing Fannie Mae to help them make more loans to so-called subprime borrowers. These borrowers whose incomes, credit ratings and savings are not good enough to qualify for conventional loans, can only get loans from finance companies that charge much higher interest rates — anywhere from three to four percentage points higher than conventional loans.
There’s where your profit motive was. Not the push from the administration, the pull from the lenders.
You almost certainly missed this other article from BusinessWeek, about how the Community Reinvestment Act, the purported smoking gun of most of the blame-Clinton crowd, had nothing to do with it … until later. Let’s dip into that one for a moment:
Finally, keep in mind that the Bush administration has been weakening CRA enforcement and the law’s reach since the day it took office. The CRA was at its strongest in the 1990s, under the Clinton administration, a period when subprime loans performed quite well. It was only after the Bush administration cut back on CRA enforcement that problems arose, a timing issue which should stop those blaming the law dead in their tracks. The Federal Reserve, too, did nothing but encourage the wild west of lending in recent years. It wasn’t until the middle of 2007 that the Fed decided it was time to crack down on abusive pratices in the subprime lending market. Oops.
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Adios, maybe it was just an airplane off course. They are nervous about that now.
In 1952, the Soviets had a bomber that was a duplicate of the B-29. Once, when we were flying our B-29 from Bermuda into Mitchell AFB at Hempstead, NY (Long Island), we got off course. A couple of jets came out to escort us in. It was scary.
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First of all, who is the phony AJ and how can he get away with pretending to be you?
Anyway, I clinked and read the article. I was shocked. Not only that there was corruption in high places but that it was taken for granted that the corruption is more important than the relationship between two men. This is how FSM [Foxy Mainstream Media] helps get to our society used to unnatural relations being accepted by our society.
When I was a kid there was plenty of corruption but it always involved heterosexual white men. Well, maybe Roy Cohen was different.
At least he kept everything decently in the closet.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_Cohn
He helped give us Jews a bad name, though. Right, Nick?
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You are in rare form today. Have you been taking your medicine?
I have been taking all my meds. In the next message, I will post all the meds I take. However, if anybody reads that message, I will have to eliminate you with extreme prejudice by firing a pellet from my rabbit-hunting air rifle into my monitor at you. So close your eyes as you read the next message.
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“McCain is as erratic as the Zeus of mythology, with a history of throwing thunderbolts in all directions.” “The question now,” Olasky thundered, “is whether the American public has become so unmoored from biblical understanding that, by Jove, it will believe in Zeus McCain?”
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I watched the video and I’m not at all scared. The goals the boys have are excellent. I especially like the part about being personally responsible.
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“Anybody is San Diego County know why that commercial plane was flying so low over the North county escorted by a military fighter jet? Just wondering.”
We’ve been getting those and the fighter jets roaring over a few times in the last few weeks. It’s getting closer to the election is all I can figure.
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Ha! Palin was in So Cal today.
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REMEMBER, YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO READ THIS!
In the morning, I take one furosemide, one clonidine, and one enalapril. The latter is an experimental replacement for losartan because it’s cheaper, but we are testing to see if it makes me cough, except when the doctor is examining, when I am supposed to cough. I took my meds this morning.
In the evening, I take one clonidine, one nifedipine, and one simvastin, and another experimental enalapril. I also snort some nasarel at night. I haven’t taken my night meds yet, but I will; otherwise my wife will nag me.
As I will retire in four months, and will have to pay for my own meds, I am trying to see which I can drop so we can better live on our tiny pensions. We are hoping not to get into our tiny stock portfolio for at least five years. At the moment, the salt mine is about the only security I own that is not in the toilet.
Our Organic Valley “stock” is an interest-only insecurity, so as long as you guys keep buying your organic milk and eggs and cheese that should be all right.
I have several times been offered anti-depressants, but have always refused to take them.
Each morning and each evening, I also take omega-3 fish oil, a calcium pill, and in the morning a multi-vitamin. I try to get a little sunlight for the vitamin D (but not too much, to avoid the skin cancer).
I do half an hour to an hour of treadmill each day. I did 50 minutes today. I use Nautilus machines at the gym one day a week for strength training. After retirement, when I won’t have to commute any more, I will up this to three sessions a week. I “work out” in the garden, also.
At night I use a cpap machine to prevent my sleep apnea from causing a heart attack in the middle of the night.
Random Granddaughter sometimes wakes up from a nap screaming. When I ask her why, she says she has nightmares where she can hear herself snoring.
She is curious about my cpap machine. Maybe I will develop a line of miniature cpap machines for little kids who scare themselves by snoring.
I also suffer from chronic early morning wakening insomnia. As the book Insomniac by Gayle Greene indicates there seems to be no cure at the present time for many cases of insomnia.
So it’s your job to cheer me up. Probably reading books about genocide is not a good prescription, either. Perhaps reading the Bible again will cure the insomnia. If you are offended by the last remark, remember…
You’re not supposed to be reading this. Did you think I was kidding?
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#29
Irresponsible heterosexual sex is wrong.
But, two wrongs don’t make a right.
Somehow, you seem to assume that if a heterosexual does something wrong, then we should somehow overlook a homosexual sin?
The other thing that I just don’t think you understand (and you’re not the only one!)
I honestly, truly couldn’t care less about homosexuals and what they do in the bedroom. I honestly couldn’t care less about who they marry.
BUT, I’m not going to EVER say that homosexuality isn’t wrong. I can’t. Even if I wanted to, I couldn’t.
The Bible is very, very clear that it is wrong. Since I consider the Bible to be the Word of God, I cannot accept homosexuality, even though I otherwise really don’t have a problem with it at all.
The bottom line: God says it is wrong, and who am I to tell God He is wrong? (Not that I don’t try sometimes, but really, I can’t.)
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I’m upset that you didn’t mention me for a job. (pout pout).
Karen looks so lovely in her cabinet because she’s a little teapot.
Are you a little teapout?
Actually, KLasko, you are a highly placed unnamed source and a power behind the throne. So you’re not supposed to be seen here in public, but as it’s Saturday, and nobody is here, except Karen, it’s probably OK.
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Adios,
I’m sorry for your grave misfortune. Did she insult your state too?
“It is good to be visiting here in Alaska’s little sister state, Texas,” she said in Texas.
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More and more, the word “sin” strikes me as “something that offends me” and so I cite it as the “Word of God” so it sounds more convincing to others.
On the other hand, murder and rape and stealing offend me and we would probably be in agreement there, if not for exactly the same reasons.
It gets complicated. I’m not a big fan of the Cheneys, but I have a soft spot in my heart for good father-daughter relationships.
On the other hand, Victoria told me severely that the Cheneys are not really evangelical Christians.
It’s difficult when we don’t use the same score card.
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TRS,
Opposing homosexuality is not permitted. Especially if you mention what God has to say about it. Alternative material is not allowed. Just ask these kids.
Students Protest School Library’s Rejection Of Christian Books On Homosexuality.
http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=187633
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RPN,
“It is good to be visiting here in Alaska’s little sister state, Texas,” she said in Texas.”
Ouch. She actually said “little sister state”? Ouch. That won’t go over big in Texas. Good thing everythings bigger there. Or so I heard.
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TRS; The Bible is very, very clear that it is wrong. Since I consider the Bible to be the Word of God, I cannot accept homosexuality, even though I otherwise really don’t have a problem with it at all.
Wow … so even though you really don’t see what the big deal is about homosexuality, you feel bound to condemn it because of an ancient law in a primitive culture?
When I was in my time of trying to be Bible-believing Christian, that was one of the things that made it impossible for me … I couldn’t look at my gay friends as condemned sinners for reason of their innate orientation, no matter how hard I tried to.
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AJ,
Several threads down (”Legitimately Banned Books?”) has several regulars discussing your story, as well.
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AJ-
You’ll find this humorous.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f7d_1222962429
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TRS,
I understand your point. But what about more liberal or cafeteria minded Christians or secular folks who don’t believe homosexuality is a sin?
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Thanks Cameron. I must confess to not having been that far down the page yet.
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You are correct. That was humorous. I especially liked the shot at Ohio.
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That was what I was referring to…
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RN,
I would note though that I don’t believe Washington was a “Deist” but would endorse the term also endorsed by notable evangelical scholars, Drs. Gregg Frazer, Gary Scott Smith and others, “theistic rationalist.” Washington, contra the Deists, clearly believe in an active personal God, but showed no sign of accept Jesus Christ as personal savior or believing in orthodox doctrines like the Trinity, Incarnation, Atonement, infallibility of the Bible or eternal damnation. To Washington and the other key “theistic rationalist” Founders, “Christianity” was all about morality and nothing about doctrines like the Trinity or accepting Jesus Christ as personal Savior, becoming “born again” or “regenerate” and imputing Christ’s righteousness to mankind.
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How about those Dores!
The best sign I saw at a game today was at that one. “The geeks shall inherit the turf!”
Clever.
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When McCain brushed Letterman off, claimed to suspend his campaign and instead appeared on a news program the same time he had committed to Letterman, I don’t think he quite realized Letterman’s revenge which has continued non-stop.
His recap of the Palin – Biden debate;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZsO7dZ__iw
And a Top Ten List
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0pVLBtoSSI
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#62
I wrote:
Whereever Joel lives will be renamed Christian Washington. Wherever Jon Rowe lives will be renamed Deist Washington.
OK, in my reorganized United States, the state where you live will not be called Deist Washington.
It will be renamed:
The state name also endorsed by notable evangelical scholars, Drs. Gregg Frazer, Gary Scott Smith and others, “theistic rationalist.” Washington, contra the Deists, clearly believe in an active personal God, but showed no sign of accept Jesus Christ as personal savior or believing in orthodox doctrines like the Trinity, Incarnation, Atonement, infallibility of the Bible or eternal damnation. To Washington and the other key “theistic rationalist” Founders, “Christianity” was all about morality and nothing about doctrines like the Trinity or accepting Jesus Christ as personal Savior, becoming “born again” or “regenerate” and imputing Christ’s righteousness to mankind Washington
This entire state name must appear, in its entirety on every road sign in the state and on every map, atlas, and globe showing this state.
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However, as an act of mercy, Jon’s state may be referred to as That’s not funny Washington or the Victoria Bold Washington.
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Because I have been so bad today, everyone gets one free flame directed at me on Monday. By free I mean I won’t make fun of you for insulting me.
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HRW-
Those were especially funny. Thanks for posting. No, I don’t think McCain expected to be called out in such bold fashion by Letterman, who is clearly still angry at being lied to by someone he considered a friend. Sure makes for good tv.
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Heh. That would be great. This — the fact that the story of America’s Founding is complicated — illustrates why most folks just don’t get it. They want to put the FFs in either the “Christian” or the “Deist” box, when in reality the story of the Founding was far more nuanced.
On a related note I just did a post on how America’s Founders and the theologians they followed (many of them unitarian or theistic rationalists not orthodox Christians, Jonathan Mayhew is the example I use) politicized and in so doing arguably abused the Bible to fit their Whig republican agenda. I analogized it to how Ted Kennedy does the same when he quoted Leviticus from the Senate floor on behalf of federal hate crimes laws that protect sexual orientation. From my post:
But the bottom line is the traditional orthodox biblical meaning of “proclaim liberty throughout the land” has nothing to do with what America’s Founders were trying to accomplish from 1776-1800, anymore than Leviticus has anything to do with Ted Kennedy’s invocation of it in favor of federal hate crimes legislation that protects sexual orientation.
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In case you don’t know “proclaim liberty throughout the land” is on America’s Liberty Bell. I see this as the equivalent of citing Leviticus in favor of said federalized hate crimes statutes, ala Ted Kennedy.
And that leads me to ask: Is Ted Kennedy a “Christian”? He calls himself one.
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Steve G.,
Christians, by definition, believe that the God who made us has the right to set the rules for how we behave. So yes, it’s perfectly OK to say, “This doesn’t bother me personally, but God says it’s wrong and I have to accept His ruling.”
Here’s a human scenario for parallel: Let’s say a mother is watching two of her sons bounce a beach ball off the car, which doesn’t seem likely to hurt it. Another son comes along and says, “Hey guys, Dad told you not to do that,” and the boys with the ball say, “So? He’s not here.” The mother may not care personally about what they’re doing, but she does care that her sons are disobeying (and defying) their father, her husband. If she doesn’t care about her sons’ disobedience, then she is being a bad wife and a bad mother–she simply doesn’t have the right to ignore it when her sons disobey her husband, even if otherwise she wouldn’t care about their actions. Now, she may choose not to say anything to the boys, and let her husband deal with it himself (as many Christians do with homosexuality), and that’s fine…but once the sons start defying their father to her face, or bouncing a basketball against the car (the childish equivalent to loudly demonstrating for the right for “gay marriage”), then she simply must say something or she isn’t being a good wife and mother.
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Texas is Alaskas little sister state.
“Ouch. That won’t go over big in Texas. Good thing everythings bigger there. Or so I heard.”
For those of you that do not know it. Alaska is MORE THAN twice the size of Texas. It has more coastline than any other state, and more border with another country than any other state.
If you really wanna see BIG go to Denali Park and take a look at the highest mountain in N. America, and while you’re out there, you’ll see the biggest mosquitoes ever bred… If you wanna see Wild and Big, go take a look at those Kodiak Bears that tower over a man and will eat him in a coupla bites…
I don’t have a thing against Texas, or Texans, and I enjoyed my stay there, but I just gotta set the record straight.
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Addendum to above: With all the oil companies represented here, there are also a bunch of transplanted Texans in Alaska.
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#74
That’s probably true. I bet you can fit Texas into Alaska, many times over. It’s a good fit.
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Reminder to the rebels. This coming Tuesday is the second “Tame Tuesday.” On Tame Tuesday, you don’t post messages at WorldMagBlog for a day, and then post twice as many messages on Wednesday to make up for it.
The loyalists will just have to post twice as many messages on Tuesday to make up for our absence.
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Done.
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“And that leads me to ask: Is Ted Kennedy a “Christian”? He calls himself one.”
I accept him at his word.
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“This — the fact that the story of America’s Founding is complicated — illustrates why most folks just don’t get it. They want to put the FFs in either the “Christian” or the “Deist” box, when in reality the story of the Founding was far more nuanced.”
What you don’t get is that America was founded by more people than those who wrote the secular documents. It doesn’t matter what SOME FFs felt about religion, the overwhelming number of them were Christian as were the people, who had Christian principles in mind and at heart. That’s the reality.
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Found this AP story on my news crawler: This is only part of it. I’m sure you’ve heard the bit where Palin says Obama sees the country as imperfect. But hats off to her for finally raising the issue.
“”This is not a man who sees America like you and I see America,” Palin said. “We see America as a force of good in this world. We see an America of exceptionalism.”" ….
“Palin, Alaska’s governor, said that donors on a greeting line had encouraged her and McCain to get tougher on Obama. She said an aide then advised her, “Sarah, the gloves are off, the heels are on, go get to them.”
“Ayers is a professor at the University of Illinois at Chicago. He and Obama live in Chicago’s Hyde Park neighborhood and served together on the board of the Woods Fund, a Chicago-based charity that develops community groups to help the poor. Obama left the board in December 2002.”
“Obama was the first chairman of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, a school-reform group of which Ayers was a founder. Ayers also held a meet-the-candidate event at his home for Obama when Obama first ran for office in the mid-1990s.”
If you lay down with dogs, you get up with fleas. Ayers didn’t hire Obama because Obama is a traditionalist. Nor does it seem logical that he hired someone and then spent no time with him.
The MSM is already playing down the connection as is expected. I hope Palin doesn’t let up.
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CherylD: Christians, by definition, believe that the God who made us has the right to set the rules for how we behave. So yes, it’s perfectly OK to say, “This doesn’t bother me personally, but God says it’s wrong and I have to accept His ruling.”
I understand that. I was just never able to do it.
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NJLawyer: I posted this link yesterday. McCain’s conceding he can’t win this election on issues, so the final weeks are going to be character assassination.
I expect we’ll hear a lot more of this guilt-by-association with Ayers, and insinuation substituting for fact. It’s the last gasp of a desperately flailing candidate.
It’ll resonate with people like you, who are eager for every chance to View With Alarm. I don’t think the vast majority of people will find it all that persuasive.
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Funny how you think “the MSM is playing down the connection” when it is the MSM who brought the story to your news crawler. The myth of the liberal media persists even in the face of direct evidence to the contrary.
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No, it is Sarah Palin who brought up the topic in the first place, and if she weren’t talking about this, the MSM wouldn’t have had to put it on the crawler.
If you take the time to find the article, the MSM states this shouldn’t matter to a voter.
You may also wish to review the issue at the Volokh.
I also fail to see why you are even bothering to address me, someone who you called a bigot. Slumming, are we?
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A man who like Ayers, who as late as 2001 was stomping on the American flag, who holds a fundraiser for you in your home, isn’t someone who is supporting someone — Obama — who has a kindred spirit. No one holds fundraisers for the oppposition.
The fact that there are those who embrace a radical like Ayers is disturbing. It’s a lot like deaf kids stupidly walking on train tracks.
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“[T]he overwhelming number of them were Christian as were the people, who had Christian principles in mind and at heart. That’s the reality.”
I’d only give this a maybe. I’ve seen one notable study that shows only 17% or so were members of or regular church attenders. That folks were far more likely to be in Taverns on Saturday nights than in church on Sunday mornings.
The Bible/orthodox Christian religion teaches the way of the regenerate is narrow, that although, for instance 80% of Americans claim to be “Christians” [including Barack Obama, Oprah Winfrey, Ted Kennedy, Phil Donahue] some much smaller % are real “regenerate” Christians. The same dynamic existed during America’s Founding era, except 98% instead of 80% claimed to be Christian. No one knows what % of them were real orthodox Trinitarian regenerate Christians, but I’d assert the number was nowhere near 98% of the population just as nowhere near 80% of today’s population are these kinds of Christians.
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I’ll do a run and post here, but you knew it was coming;
SNL and the debate.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Nfd4r6l4Fc
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The McCain/Palin campaign has decided to attempt to win the election by going full-bore on personal attacks. I can’t say I blame them. After all, it worked in 2000 and 2004.
I can tell y’all this much – if McCain and Palin win by using the politics of personal destruction, they will find governing this county all but impossible. Fully half of this country will have nothing but contempt for McCain and Palin and will never accept their Presidency/Vice Presidency. They will do everything they can to make their term in office as difficult a possible. With increased numbers of Democrats in the House and Senate, there will be even less room for the McCain/Palin administration to enact their legislative agenda.
Only, I don’t think the political tactic will work this time. People have grown tired of the politics of personal destruction. They realize that it only resulted in the country becoming too divided to work together to solve the problems that bedevil us.
It remains to be seen if the American people want to stay with the past or want to take a chance on the future.
McCain/Palin: Because America hasn’t suffered enough!
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Friends,
A number of you challenged me on the biblical arguments on behalf of theological unitarianism. I don’t have passion for studying this. But I just ran across another biblical unitarian website. I found it because he linked to my post where I reproduce a letter of Jefferson’s terming the Trinity a three headed monster. As Jefferson wrote:
No historical fact is better established, than that the doctrine of one God, pure and uncompounded, was that of the early ages of Christianity; and was among the efficacious doctrines which gave it triumph over the polytheism of the ancients, sickened with the absurdities of their own theology. Nor was the unity of the Supreme Being ousted from the Christian creed by the force of reason, but by the sword of civil government, wielded at the will of the fanatic Athanasius. The hocus-pocus phantasm of a God like another Cerberus, with one body and three heads, had its birth and growth in the blood of thousands and thousands of martyrs….In fact, the Athanasian paradox that one is three, and three but one, is so incomprehensible to the human mind, that no candid man can say he has any idea of it, and how can he believe what presents no idea? …
– to Rev. James Smith, December 8, 1822
Yet, Jefferson was a rationalist who took a cafeteria approach to the Bible. He apparently thought early Christians were all unitarian rationalists like he was.
This site, if I am not mistaken, makes the biblical case for unitarianism or the notion that Jesus was not and did not claim to be God.
http://tinyurl.com/5ykzuf
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MIM, I lived in Fort Worth when Alaska was admitted into the union. Soon afterwards, out came bumper stickers saying, “We still love little ol’ Texas.”
I’ve said this before, and will likely say it again, but: McCain has a record we can judge him by. Oboma has no record, so we have to go by the crowd he runs with. My mother used to tell me, “You are known by the company you keep.”
I agree with Jon Rowe in #86. Many claim to be Christians. And many of those believe it. However,
The old spiritual says, “Everybody talk about heaven ain’t going there, heaven.”
And Jimmy Dickens, in a song, says “We raise cain on Saturdays but go to Church on Sunday.”
If someone claims to be a Christian, I have to at least believe that he believes it. The acutal decision about that is above my pay grade. Jon’s too, BTW.
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Thanks Chas. Very thoughtful response.
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87-
That SNL skit is a hoot! Highly recommended if you watched the debate.
Palin: I believe marriage is meant to be a sacred institution between two unwilling teenagers.
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Recently I mentioned an email being circulated among women who oppose Sarah Palin. The email encourages women to make a $10 donation to Planned Parenthood in Sarah Palin’s name, rather than just ranting back and forth to each other.
As of yesterday, Planned Parenthood had received more than 31,000 donations totaling $802,678.00, all in Palin’s name.
Here is the new ad they are running with some of that money.
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Funny, we’re accused of bringing up dirt on Obama and using personal attacks, and yet we have posts like #92 from the other side.
Forget facts and things like business associations that actually MATTER (God forbid that we should bring up Ayers, which is a *legitimate* concern).
Let’s lie and concentrate on Palin’s teenage daughter and her LONG-time fiance (long before Sarah started to run for Vice-President they planned to be married, and this was verified by the boy’s mother).
Yeah, that’s talking about the issues…not.
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#92
I suppose that we should have answered with an email asking women on the right to donate to Operation Rescue in Obama’s name.
THEN, I suppose we could actually make some sort of statement of comparison.
Otherwise, this is just childish and lame.
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How is #92 a personal attack
I’m commenting on a satirical skit linked above, for crying out loud. 
You guys really do look for things to be upset about. You have to admit the skit is pretty darned funny. Tina Fey has Sarah down!
And no one is discouraging you from donating to whichever group you like…..
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I see the blame game on the economy is still going on. I’ve decided that it belongs on multiple parties. Neither side can say, “You did this and we had nothing to do with it.”
FactCheck.org explains it. Following is their “partial list” of those responsible:
-The Federal Reserve, which slashed interest rates after the dot-com bubble burst, making credit cheap.
-Home buyers, who took advantage of easy credit to bid up the prices of homes excessively.
-Congress, which continues to support a mortgage tax deduction that gives consumers a tax incentive to buy more expensive houses.
-Real estate agents, most of whom work for the sellers rather than the buyers and who earned higher commissions from selling more expensive homes.
-The Clinton administration, which pushed for less stringent credit and downpayment requirements for working- and middle-class families.
-Mortgage brokers, who offered less-credit-worthy home buyers subprime, adjustable rate loans with low initial payments, but exploding interest rates.
-Former Federal Reserve chairman Alan Greenspan, who in 2004, near the peak of the housing bubble, encouraged Americans to take out adjustable rate mortgages.
-Wall Street firms, who paid too little attention to the quality of the risky loans that they bundled into Mortgage Backed Securities (MBS), and issued bonds using those securities as collateral.
-The Bush administration, which failed to provide needed government oversight of the increasingly dicey mortgage-backed securities market.
-An obscure accounting rule called mark-to-market, which can have the paradoxical result of making assets be worth less on paper than they are in reality during times of panic.
-Collective delusion, or a belief on the part of all parties that home prices would keep rising forever, no matter how high or how fast they had already gone up.
Also, Gramm-Leach-Bliley was NOT responsible:
Gramm’s legislation had broad bipartisan support and was signed into law by President Clinton. Moreover, the bill had nothing to do with causing the crisis, and economists – not to mention President Clinton – praise it for having softened the crisis.
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What Gramm-Leach-Bliley did was to allow commercial banks to get into investment banking. Commercial banks are the type that accept deposits and make loans such as mortgages; investment banks accept money for investment into stocks and commodities. In 1998, regulators had allowed Citicorp, a commercial bank, to acquire Traveler’s Group, an insurance company that was partly involved in investment banking, to form Citigroup. That was seen as a signal that Glass-Steagall was a dead letter as a practical matter, and Gramm-Leach-Bliley made its repeal formal. But it had little to do with mortgages.
Actually, deregulated banks were not the major culprits in the current debacle. Bank of America, Citigroup, Wells Fargo and J.P. Morgan Chase have weathered the financial crisis in reasonably good shape, while Bear Stearns collapsed and Lehman Brothers has entered bankruptcy, to name but two of the investment banks which had remained independent despite the repeal of Glass-Steagall.
Observers as diverse as former Clinton Treasury official and current Berkeley economist Brad DeLong and George Mason University’s Tyler Cowen, a libertarian, have praised Gramm-Leach-Bliley has having softened the crisis. The deregulation allowed Bank of America and J.P. Morgan Chase to acquire Merrill Lynch and Bear Stearns. And Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley have now converted themselves into unified banks to better ride out the storm. That idea is also endorsed by former President Clinton himself, who, in an interview with Maria Bartiromo published in the Sept. 24 issue of Business Week, said he had no regrets about signing the repeal of Glass-Steagall:
Bill Clinton (Sept. 24): Indeed, one of the things that has helped stabilize the current situation as much as it has is the purchase of Merrill Lynch by Bank of America, which was much smoother than it would have been if I hadn’t signed that bill. …You know, Phil Gramm and I disagreed on a lot of things, but he can’t possibly be wrong about everything. On the Glass-Steagall thing, like I said, if you could demonstrate to me that it was a mistake, I’d be glad to look at the evidence. But I can’t blame [the Republicans]. This wasn’t something they forced me into.
FactCheck concludes with, The U.S. economy is enormously complicated. Screwing it up takes a great deal of cooperation. Claiming that a single piece of legislation was responsible for (or could have averted) the crisis is just political grandstanding. We have no advice to offer on how best to solve the financial crisis. But these sorts of partisan caricatures can only make the task more difficult.
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John McCain’s brother Joe called northern Virginia, “Communist Country.”
You betcha that’s gonna help em, also.
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-Watch the ENTIRE clip. It appears to end, but continues on-
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Jon Rowe, one does not define a Christian by how often he goes to meetin’ — and I know I will hear a lot about Chreasters from my fellow Christians. Just because someone doesn’t go to church doesn’t mean he/she is not a Christian. It is not up to me to define “orthodox.” I don’t care what Luther said, or Calvin or any of them said, and I think God only cares what HE said. Nor is it my job to to sit in judgment. God will judge. All your theories and research “prove” is what you — as a human — think, not what God thinks. I’m sure you remember Jesus saying “you’re thinking as men think, not as God thinks.” This applies here. You can’ prove anything. You are not God. It doesn’t matter whether you think someone is a Christian or not.
And this one really made me laugh: “Jefferson was a rationalist who took a cafeteria approach to the Bible.”
Well, of course, he did. Pick and choose. That’s the way of sinners. This way you can justify doing just about anything but what you should be doing.
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Godwin’s Law (also known as Godwin’s Rule of Nazi Analogies)[1] is an adage formulated by Mike Godwin in 1990. The law states:[2][3]
“As a Usenet discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one.”
Godwin’s Law is often cited in online discussions as a deterrent against the use of arguments in the reductio ad Hitlerum form.
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It’s true that the election will be over in a month, but I fear Lumpy will still be spamming. It appears to be her nature.
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Thanks for the link, Victoria. I felt sick to my stomach throughout most of that video, but found myself nodding my head in agreement toward the end.
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Here is video of Witch Chaser, Thomas Muthee blessing Sarah Palin.
Sarah Palin credits Muthee with her governorship.
According to Thomas Muthee you need to become MORE violent.
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Victoria I see your choir and raise you worshiping cardboard cutouts — now this is cult like.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxdt_f0hwUg&feature=related
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Do you even realize what a “cult” is, HRW? LOL!
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Lumpy: If you’re even a Christian, do you believe in praying over fellow believers going out into the world?
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Sorry, I just fed a troll. I’ll stop now.
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cult like behavior is exhibited by people who exhibit some of the following behavior
- compliance with the group
- dependence on a leader
- avoidance of dissent
- devaluation of outsiders.
In worshiping a cardboard cutout of Bush, I’d say cult like behavior is being exhibited.
If you did not find my link of worship and blessing a cardboard cutout of Bush to be scarier than some children singing a cheesy song about hope and Obama, then you have a skewered perspective on life. “do some warfare over him” is a scary quote. The militant air of that clip and others from the same film demonstrated a great preponderance to cult like behavior that exuded violence over hope. I grew up Dutch Reformed and the film Jesus Camp scared the out of me.
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Outkast, Please don’t call HRW a troll. Very uncalled for — and against the rules.
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Indeed, the “cult like behavior” is coming from the CCR’s who have made Sarah Palin the “4th Member of the Trinity” and will not abide any criticism or questioning of her. Look how they rage on here whenever she’s even mildly criticized or questioned. They’re trying to pull a fast one on the American people and put an idiot fundamentalist Christian in the White House. Yes, she is an idiot when it comes to anything related to running this nation. Winking and cooing at the American people are not the actions of a responsible, national leader.
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Wow. That is some warped stuff in the Jesus camp video. Worshiping and blessing and speaking in tongues to a cardboard cut out of Bush and the flag?
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Okay, it’s late, Alaska time, so make that really late for all you Eastie’s. So what are the chances anyone will read this anyway right?
In part following the example of some fearless leaders, but mostly because I need to bring some moderation back to my internet habits, I am taking a “news” fast on the internet. Starting today till oh, about a week after the election. Well, maybe just a few days after, but at least till Nov. 8. I am going to set a different homepage so Drudge isn’t the first thing I see when I go online. I have told my daughters, they will hold me accountable.
this does include WMB. I need to spend more time immersing myself in prayer and the Word and not the World
at least for a season.
Soooo. Random, you can’t eliminate me – I’m eliminating myself. Keep taking your meds.
HRW and RPN, I agree with your assessment (#109) of that clip.
Scary as it is, it doesn’t scare me more than the large ubiquitous pictures of the Democratic Candidate. No wonder he is compared to Messiah – his image is everywhere. It may not be intentional propaganda on his part personally, but it sure looks, smells and quacks like a duck. The first time I noticed it was on a newspiece that included a picture of a campaign worker with a wall-sized photo of Senator Obama behind her. Unfortunately, I can’t see enormous pictures of political leaders without thinking Hitler, Stalin and Chairman Mao.
I’m not doing a complete news fast – will still listen to the radio and read the weekend edition of the paper when it comes to the house. But staying away for the computer for all but the necessary research will be so good for a time. Especially this critical time.
I’m sure, as has been mentioned, the state of things will get worse before they get better. After the election, I expect it will still get worse; the only variable is the amount of acceleration to America’s decline depending on who is in charge for the next four years.
So, see you next month! Right now, I’m joining the rest of my family for our current favorite viewing pick “Keeping up Appearances”.
‘night all.
Deanna
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Take care AKMOM-
That’s probably a healthy thing to do. I can’t imagine having Drudge as a home page.
You betcha we’s promisin’ to do all we’s can to see you gitcher governor back next month, also, with.
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AKMOM, if you AND momoffour leave us, who’s going to keep us sane?
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NJLawyer: Regardless of Ayers’s past, he’s a force in Chicago politics. Any politician who comes out of Chicago will have to have, by necessity, had some dealings with him.
I’ll even agree that he and Obama are more likely to share some political goals than he and a conservative would.
BUT: There is NO evidence at all that Obama endorses, embraces or excuses Ayers’ past violence. And when you and Victoria and others try to imply THAT sort of a connection, you are bearing false witness. I really do not understand how self-proclaimed Christians can so comfortably engage in deceptive innuendo and guilt by association, and see no moral problem with it.
And yes, I did call you a bigot, when you cheerfully described how you go out of your way to avoid interacting with shoe salesmen you assume (don’t even know for sure, just assume) to be gay. Sorry if you don’t like being called on that behavior, but if the shoe fits …
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The statement, “Do some warfare over him,” refers to spiritual warfare – prayer. The woman & the children were praying for Pres. Bush. What’s so wrong with that?
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