What about Mitt?
With an economy in shambles and John McCain suffering in the polls as a result, one blogger wonders if a different VP pick might be helping the GOP right now.
No one (?) could have forecast the market meltdown of September 2008. But, with the benefit of hindsight, might not Mitt Romney have been a better choice for vice President? Sure, Governor Palin energized the base. But the White Evangelical base, formidable as it may be, is simply not large enough to hand a Republican the keys to the White House. Had the former governor of Massachusetts (who polled quite respectably among Evangelicals) been selected, his Harvard M.B.A. and experiences as a C.E.O might have come in handy.



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I honestly don’t think McCain has to act so desperate as to switch VPs. What I think he should do, however, is send Romney and Pain into Michigan and then Virginia to boost his ratings in those two states.
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BTW, I long ago planned for a “Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Romney” bumper sticker should Barry manage to squeak out a victory next month.
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Buyer’s remorse for Palin?
Wishful thinking Outkast, Michigan is gone for McCain which is why his campaign pulled up stakes there. Meanwhile Virginia is looking bluer by the day.
and how about that Iowa
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Last week I wondered about Mitt and considered blogging about it but didn’t bother.
Last night at the debate McCain could have said Romney instead of Buffet.
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Palin is a huge benefit to McCain in both Iowa and Virginia (I’m from there, remember). Michigan is very blue, as always, but Romney could help McCain carry that state if he maintains a presence there.
The reason McCain is doing so miserably this week has nothing to do with his pick for VP. It has everything to do with his failure to differentiate himself from Obama on the economic “bailout.” That was McCain’s chance to do something big, but he didn’t take advantage of it.
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Outkast
Palin is not a great benefit in Northern Virginia and Iowa polls have been solid Obama even after she was named. Can I have what you are smoking?
I do agree somewhat with your analysis however, McCain has not made his case.
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Aside from whatever benefit he brings as a Mormon with his year’s worth supply of food… He does follow the rules on that, does he not?
Mitt strikes me as an empty suit.
Patraeus! Now there’s a possible VP who actually puts boots on the ground and knows how to get a job done.
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Well, that year’s supply of food will come in handy if the economy keeps tanking!
Mitt is an empty suit. I think the general perception was that he took stands for political convenience.
But I do think he would have been a better “bluffer” than Sarah Palin.
I suspect that if the Republican ticket goes down to defeat, a lot of people are going to say “What were they thinking???” in regards to selecting her for the VP slot.
If the Republican ticket goes on to win, I think a lot of people are going to say “Ai-eeeeeh!!”. Surely the Apocalypse will be upon us! Heh.
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Duh.
But a bit late now.
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OUTKAST: The reason McCain is doing so miserably this week has nothing to do with his pick for VP. It has everything to do with his failure to differentiate himself from Obama on the economic “bailout.”
McCain is being hurt because he made a strategic decision to give up the experience argument in favor of the change argument. The economic crisis is so big that differences between bailout plans pale before the irrational forces that are driving fear here and around the world. McCain made a feeble effort to recapture that argument at the debate, when he offered himself as a “steady hand.” Unfortunately, he gave away the force of that argument when he picked a VP whose credentials are muscle, teeth, and lipstick. He introduced her to America with the words “Change is coming! Change is on the way! Change is coming!” Well, no kidding, it certainly is, with or without Gov. Palin. The question now isn’t whether there will be change, but what do we need in order to confront the unknown. By picking Palin, McCain say we don’t need ideas and experience, just attitude. Experience is the only argument McCain has against Obama, and Palin undercuts it.
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Mitt Romney, an empty suit? I don’t think so. This man has accomplished much more than any of the candidates that are still standing or who ran in the primaries. Educated, articulate, professional, successfull, with high moral standards and integrity. I have been embarassed to be a Republican more than once in the past 8 years but I have never been more dissapointed than when the Republicans nominated John McCain and he chose Sara Palin We now need to resign ourselves to 8 years of Democratic rule and accept the horrible consequences of Obama’s appointments to the Supreme Court during his term. In living rooms of Republicans across America there are comments like “Oh, crap, we chose the wrong guy.” Don’t you wish we could get a “do-over”? That will have to wait until 2012. Strap on your seatbelts, Republicans, we are in for a rough ride.
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It’s true that evangelicals won’t hand the Republicans the White House, but I think it’s equally true that a Republican pres can’t win without us. Before Palin, evangelicals were going to stay home or vote third party in such large numbers that McCain had no chace to win. Now he has a chance.
Tonight I saw a bumper sticker with “Sarah!” in large letters, and in smaller letters underneath “McCain/Palin ‘08″–I really doubt any other potential candidate would have come close to that kind of appeal, and she will still probably grab some women (and perhaps some men too) who would have otherwise voted Democratic.
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My prayer since January has been for leaders that fear the Creator in how they live their lives and make their decisions. I suggest you all do the same, if no candidate meeting this requirement exist at present, pray that the heart of our next president will be changed before entering the presidency. Prayer is needed in these next four weeks! Please don’t forget! Please?
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My prayer since January has been for leaders that fear the Creator in how they live their lives and make their decisions. I suggest you all do the same, if no candidate meeting this requirement exist at present, pray that the heart of our next president will be changed before entering the presidency. Prayer is needed in these next four weeks! Please don’t forget! Please? . This is utter blather! All the praying you do won’t change a thing, no matter what happens. This statement is simply delusional.
The “Maverick” can’t change now. he’d just be seen (yet again and again and again) as erratic. Oh, and by the way, being erratic does not mean you’re a maverick. A maverick is one who doesn’t follow a “brand”. This is NO ONE that I know of in Washington.
Lastly, certain we may not have been able to pin the meltdown to occur in September, but to suggest it was a complete surprise is surprising in itself. It was NOT a surprise, many just had their head in the sand. Saying it isn’t happening, doesn’t mean it isn’t happening.
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Go to bed, Scott, and while you’re at it pray to God for His mercy. You’ll be needing it.
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Outkast-
I’m catching up on the threads and I see you’re running around frantically telling people to go away or go to bed. Hilarious stuff, my friend
Did you have a bad day?
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I’ve told no one to go away, Lumpy. I had a wonderful, God-filled day at work, so it’s laughable that you even suggest otherwise.
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Please accept my apology, Outkast. Somehow I must have misinterpreted this comment you wrote to Steve.
“Stop being a God-hater, and find a blog with those of your own ilk.”
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And why the name calling. My name is not Lumpy. I am RPN.
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Jacques Berlinerblau: No one (?) could have forecast the market meltdown of September 2008. …
Frank: In a very real way, Rep. Ron Paul — you know, the “crackpot” who wants to abolish the Federal Reserve and return to sound, constitutional money — predicted it.
But nobody wanted to listen.
Now we’re … excuse me, your stuck with these two — a belligerent gimp and a “youbetcha” feeb — as the standard-bearers against the Obamessiah.
As for me, I’ll proudly cast my vote for the presidential candidate that Ron Paul has endorsed: Chuck Baldwin. There’s so way I want any part of the other two fools taking the helm next January.
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SCOTT (14): A maverick is one who doesn’t follow a “brand”. This is NO ONE that I know of in Washington.
FRANK: See my post at (20) above …
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I see that outkast has his pom poms out.
I suspect that, barring yet another major change in the campaign dynamics soon, that pom poms will not be enough.
In shoring up his base McCain traded away one of his few strategic opportunities to reach out to the middle. And in this action McCain’s capture by the social conservative right became clear. In fact arguably the situation was little less than a coup by a minority to hijack McCain’s presidential attempt.
It appears to be failing, although it is usually best to wait until the votes are counted to call the election. I can say that it appears that McCain has turned his back on much which he originally stood for in response to this social conservative pressure (c.f. Cheryl D post 12).
If McCain fails in his bid for the White HOuse, I suggest that one of the causes for this failure will be the choice of Palin, and that this will be a commonly understood position. Palin’s future will then presumably ride on the outcome of the various investigations in Alaska AND just how strongly the social conservative movment remains committed to her.
And if they remain committed to Palin, the internal dynamics of the Republican party look to get very interesting.
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I like Sarah Palin.
I think it’s bizarre, though, that anyone would vote for McCain because of her. I am not voting for him because he is not a good candidate for the presidency. I will not vote for him just because he is a republican.
I am going to vote for Chuck Baldwin of the Constitution Party.
Good for you, Frank in Spokane!
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I thought Republicans made a mistake in nominating McCain over Romney.
I thought McCain made a mistake in taking Palin over someone like Romney.
The financial crisis has been bubbling for over a year and any experience politico will tell you that when it comes to elections, “it’s the economy, stupid.”
That said, McCain should have gone with a strong economic VP. Romney has economic and fiscal experience in spades. He is much stronger than Palin.
But, McCain was worried about the evangelical base and picked her. Why? Because evangelicals are so unwise that they would rather hand Obama the election than vote for McCain. Insane.
Remember - voting for a third party or staying at home is basically a vote for Obama.
Good call. Thanks for hijacking the party.
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I was originally for Romney then I went to Huck and finally… well you see the pattern.
Yes, Texasmike, Mitt had a solid resume of results. And at one time he was one of the few R candidates who hadnt been married more than once. I hope he gets tapped to be Treasury or some other vital economic role in any future admin of either party.
A Romney-Huckabee pairup.. now that would have been the ticket!
Maybe we can still squeak out a victory here. Have the RNC go out and donate to Kucinich, Nader Mike Gravel, the Greens party and a few other candidates who would pull votes away from Barack.
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Mitt Romney may not have been a better pick for VP but he sure would have been a better pick for the top of the ticket! If anything, McCain redeemed himself significantly by picking Palin though.
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Amen, Joel. My first pick during the caucus was Romney, and once everything was said-and-done I wasn’t sure for whom I’d vote. But once Governor Palin was appointed as VP, it’s been “Whoo-hoo!” ever since!!
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BTW, my family’s “Romney ‘08″ barn sign still stands against the elements on the roof of our backyard deck, ready to soon be accompanied by the “McCain/Palin ‘08″ barn sign now posted on the front porch of our house!
Whoo-hoo!
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We all love Sarah. Some for different reasons
-She makes for great comedic material without any editing.
-Women love her because she wants to hold them accountable for payin’ for their own rape kits and havin’ courts force them to have their rapists’ babies. Chicks diggin’ that, also.
-I love the downward poll trend she has given McSame, Kasty likes her because she speaks his language. It’s a win — win for everyone.
-It’s especially good to hear her credit the African Witch Chaser, Muthee, with her governorship. He must have chased many witches to their death to gain the power necessary for his God to make her a VP pick for McSame.
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I love Sarah because she embodies the soul of the Republican Party.
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It has just been reported that the troopergate reports has been released.
It ap[pears that Sara Palin has been founbd to have illegallyu used her powers.
I am looking for a link to the report itself.
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So here is a link to the MSNBC report:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27105917/
It appear sthat she has been found to have illegally used her powers although the actual firing of Monegan was also due to other causes as wll.
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Here is a link to the report itself:
troopergate report
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This will give McCain a chance to drop her without losing face. Will he be smart enough to take it? I doubt it.
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As a minimum it would seem to belie her apparent arguments that she was blameless in this exercise.
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so lets make sure we all understand the situation:
1) it was a bipartisan investigation
2) Sarah Palin agreed to cooperate
3) the report was released by unianimous 12 person vote for release of the report
4) the report finds tha tRalin illegally used her powers
5) McCain was well aware of this investigation before nominating Palin: the timing was NOT politically motivated
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And the CNN report:
Palin Abused Power in troooper case
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I am hoping McCain keeps Palin on thew ticket.
It is going to be so much fun asking reform candidates how they reconcile their reform with a clear bipartisan finding that Palin abused her gubernatorial power.
This should make for an ongoing interesting campaign!
And when we add this to the continuing financial crisis, I am sure this is exactly what the McCain campaign has been hoping for.
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It’s not too late to put Fred Thompson on the ticket. It’s possible that with CPAP for his obstructive sleep apnea, he’ll wake up in time for the swearing-in ceremony. The appeal to women voters was a bust. And with Fred on board, there’s double the curmudgeon appeal.
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Or was it the appeal to men voters was a bust? I dunno. It’s late. There were two of them I think.
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serious george post 39,
no actually I think it is too late: it would show that McCain’s vetting of Palin was totally inadequate AND that would bring his judgment into question.
Oh wait, based on his wavering behavior in the economic crisis, perhaps his judgement should be questioned!
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LESTER (24): Remember - voting for a third party or staying at home is basically a vote for Obama.
FRANK: A vote for Chuck Baldwin is a vote for Chuck Baldwin. I consider McCain to be just as bad for this country as Obama, and for many of the same reasons — so he never “had” my vote to begin with. The GOP candidate is not automatically entitled to my vote just because I don’t want Obama to be prez.
LESTER (24): Good call. Thanks for hijacking the party.
FRANK: Do you mean the Republican Party? If so, I haven’t voted straight Republican since 1988 (i.e., George HW Bush’s 1st campaign). I ain’t “hijacking” no GOP!
Or by “the party,” do you mean this thread? If so, Emily mentioned der Mittster as an alternative Veep for JMcS — I’m merely reminding you all that, contrary to JB’s “no one could have foreseen” lie/mis-statement, one of the GOP contenders — Ron Paul — DID foresee it.
But nobody wanted to listen.
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