Children of the state
If you want a classic example of how fast a whole culture can be turned on a dime, redirected by 180 degrees, try this: Just when it seemed, through the 1980s, 1990s, and even well into the past decade, that a socialist mindset had been successfully put down in the United States, back it comes—with a vengeance.
“Free markets are better for everybody,” Ronald Reagan had taught us. So we deregulated. We reformed welfare. We defeated Hillary’s nationalized health care. We popularized tax cuts. We watched the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics collapse, and we applauded the market economy in Europe. Talk radio exploded.
And, as fallen humans are wont to do, we also abused our freedom.
Which always provides an excuse to those with socialist inclinations to argue that we need to be regulated again, that we need stacks of new rules to curb our excesses, and that government needs to be called in to make everyone behave. And that’s why you find a newly muscled Uncle Sam these days shutting down big investment brokers, buying huge equity clout in traditional banks, and rumored to be ready to buy similar shares of Ford, Chrysler, and GM.
All that under a supposed pro-free market Republican administration! So nobody’s going to be very surprised if under an Obama presidency there will be a redoubling of Sarbanes-Oxley, re-regulation of the airlines (and just about everyone else), universal health care, a new budget line for carbon and energy, restrictions on talk radio, and increased taxes to pay the staggeringly higher bills.
Much of that has happened, may I suggest, because we also long ago conceded the most critical territory of all. While strenuously wrestling over business and banking and health care and energy and a dozen other issues, we cavalierly handed over to the state a perpetual 90 percent share of the nation’s educational interests. America regularly has about 50 million children enrolled in K-12 schools, and about 20 million more in colleges and universities—and while the pattern fluctuates a little, 90 percent of those 70 million young people regularly get a state-flavored view of reality.
Socialized medicine? Most of us recoil at the idea. Socialized airlines? Reminds us of Aeroflot. Socialized banks? When it happened last month, it terrified us.
But socialized schools? Nine out of ten of us patronize them regularly.
And we do so with na’ry a thought or concern about how such an arrangement affects next week’s election, or the election after that, or the lifetime of elections to come.
I am blessed to have had parents who did look ahead. Half a century ago, my father said often: “If I fail to feed my children, the government will step in. If I don’t house them, the government has programs to help. Of course, I don’t intend to turn those duties over to the government. But I would much rather have the government feed and house my children than to have the government shape their minds.”
That’s why, if I were ever forced to become a one-issue person on the political front, my single issue would be freedom of choice in education. With a nine-to-one edge in value-shaping influence, why shouldn’t the government be producing products who think government-sponsored-everything is best?
When I enthusiastically endorse the Christian school and home school alternatives, I don’t do so primarily because of their effect on the electoral process. Christian education isn’t about filling the registration rolls of the Republican party.
But it is about producing thoughtful and earnest citizens. The bells of freedom on every front traditionally ring more clearly where a biblical value system has been inculcated. No one should expect anything resembling such a result from secularist state-sponsored schools, which will naturally glorify the state. No one should be surprised when that’s what happens.
So I say: Go get educated about what Christians are doing these days in education. Go online to discoverchristianschools.com, a notable effort to help parents discover the good things happening on the school front. Go to hslda.org to learn about the growing impact of home schooling families throughout the nation.
It’s too late, to be sure, to have much impact on next week’s election. But so long as there are more kids and future generations, and so long as they have minds and hearts to shape with God’s great truth, it’s not too late at all to make a difference for elections yet to come.




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I had a Spanish teacher who was a Castro refugee. Like so many of the early Cuban refugees she had enjoyed all the privileges that hard work and initiative could get you in pre-Fidel years. She said early on govt agents came knocking asking her to sign over her child to the state. Her son would be shipped to the USSR for advanced training. She recognized indoctrination and got out when she still could. One of those unfortunately too common “nothing but the clothes on her back and a $5 bill” stories.
How close we are to something analogous. My own kids are homeschooled. A neighbor girl not much older than my 6 year old recently made mocking comments about my homeschooled kids. Where would a child gain such ideas?
When the public schools were truly public and focussed on meeting the expectations of customers/stock-holders (which is what parents truly are and should be thought of as being) I know this nation still had flaws and faults. That was back in the day when all phones were black with rotary dials and your checks from the bank looked just like mine: a plain pastel mint green. Those phones and checks were from the era of one-size-fits all, back when you didnt think you had any right to be selective or demand a personalized product. We still are locked into that same industrial era “one-size-fits-all” gummint skool as factory system.
We bought into a never-to-be-abolished-by-either-party, unconstitutional Federal edukayshin Dept. All those bureaucrats and all that money (wasted!) with what resulting improvemts?? And if charter schools get newsprint at all it is due to un-monitored, unaccountable scam artists bilking the state of tuition money.
We long ago saw the need for separation of state and church.
Now we need separation of education and state.
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Amen. In our continuing battle with public education, I regularly see ways the ps is trying to take over the role of family. Indeed, they tell the children that they are their family. It is time for parent teacher conferences. I don’t see a need to attend as I thought we had agreed to disagree. As preadoptive foster children, wards of the state, my kids are required to be in public education. I believe teachers could be a very positive influence in the lives of my children if they stuck to their job of teaching the basics. They believe they are a positive influence saving them from my lunacies of little tv and computer and junk food. They do not believe that penmanship is useful in developing the mind or motor skills, they do believe children need to be on computer so they will be competitive later in life. They do believe they need lots of food reinforcement for rewards.
Yesterday, I asked son what he learned in school. He said, “nothing”. I said, surely not, did you do reading? nope. Math? nope. Science? nope. History? nope. Well, it turns out they did do math, they found the circumference of the pumpkin and estimated the number of seeds. So we did math, calculating the cost of diesel to drive the bus to pick him up and return him, the cost of his free lunch as a foster child, the cost of his teacher and the teacher aides and the running of the school systems, and the cooks and helpers and janitor. For around two hundred dollars of his friends’ and neighbors’ money, he was able to attend a harvest party at school on yet another early release day and get very little in the line of education and a great deal in the line of learning to get handouts.
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Powerful article. Thanks, Joel.
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Don’t Worry about it Joel till after the election. If Obama get elected those who expose a non socialized alternative to to education will be looked at very closely by socialists – just like they did Joe the Plumber.
These people see nothing wrong with attacking, investigating, illegally checking tax records, health records, criminal records even driving records on anyone who opposes them. The end always justifies the means with these political terrorists. Your article here alone could get you sent to prison eventually. That is what Marxists always do with anyone that opposes their insanity. So say goodbye to your children, who might be taken from you since you are obviously a unfit parent.
Just ask Joe the Plumber. Most of this was done to him, even though it was illegal to do so, simply because the left controlled the information. Joe just asked a simple question. You, on the other hand, stated a belief that opposes them to the core. There is no hope for you Joel. No telling what they will do to you. You have one too many consonants in your name too, at least for my liking by the way – but it is too close to Joe – for them. You might consider changing it, or moving to Australia.
These socialists have been claiming for years that evil conservative government was doing something to them just awful when it wasn’t but they are the first to do these vile and despicable things themselves. How Ironic, if telling.
See you in the Gulag ……eeerrrr…..Herbie.
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I seriously fear for the future of this country if we leave groups like the NEA and politicians in charge of what our children are taught. Political indoctrination is ramapant, and as far as jailing parents who disagree–Wake up! It is happening, NOW, not in the future! Go to http://www.massresistance.org and you will find several stories about parents who have been either jailed or threatened with arrest for “trespassing” if they dare to show up and protest against liberal education policies in Massachusetts. I seriously fear that this is the beginning of a major public crackdown on those who don’t toe the socialist/liberal line–except I don’t think things will go the way socialists expect. We could be only a few years away from the Second American Civil War. And it will be issues like this which will provide the spark which turns political rudeness and vitriol into actual fighting. Somehow, we have to turn back from the brink–or our children will grow up without knowing a country at peace. Speak out for separation of education and state!
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Barracuda, those who are financially able to have more or less already “seceded” from the Superstate and it’s various tentacles: ie privatized and/or homeschooling.
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Given the current state of things, public education is the only option for many people. We had options, but we decided to participate within our community by sending our children to the local schools. To me, the biggest factors in education are the parents no matter where the child is enrolled. Our two had very successful journeys through public school, earned scholarships to cover the entire cost of their college educations (one in an out-of-state public university and the other in an in-state private college), they both are active and growing Christians, excellent young citizens, excited about participating in election processes since they came of the age to do so, and generally able confound their liberal, fuzzy-minded friends on matters of current interest. They are fine young people. That said, we stood a constant watch over the content and style of their education and had many, many hours of conversation about what they were being told; we refuted wrong notions and stood up to contend against certain things that were happening in their schools. We were involved. That’s all it takes to protect your kids. You don’t have to spend thousands of dollars or work yourself into an isolationist position about the world around you. You can’t protect them forever–you have to teach them yourself no matter where they go to school. And what would be wrong with putting all that home-schooling energy to work by volunteering for local school advisory committees or running for a post on the school board itself? The best of both worlds–be out there to witness to a lost world and transform education at the same time from within the system.
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Followthru,
We have tried to work with the system with these kids. We had hoped that in such a small school, the faculty would work with us. The kids are all A students. In fact, I think all of the kids in the school are all A students. That says something, and it is not a good something. Anyway, we have had in depth discussions with the teachers to try to get across our perspective and vision for these kids. The teachers will have none of it. They firmly believe they know what is in the best interest of our children. So, we also, spend hours at home refuting what they learned in school and repairing the damage of how they learned it. Seems like it would be better stewardship of our time to spend a few hours each day homeschooling them, and then move on to other projects with them. We only have a few hours with our children each day, I would prefer to be able to spend the time in a positive constructive way.
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For me, the choice about where to send my kids to school comes down to one point: What is the foundation for the educational philosophy?
In Christian education, God is the foundation of the educational philosophy. We study literature, grammar, and composition because God created human beings with the gift of language, and we need to use language well to express ourselves and communicate with each other. We study mathematics because God is a God of order and of absolutes, so 2+2 always equals 4. We study science because God has created an amazing world and we want to glorify him by exploring his world. We study art because God gave human beings creativity. We learn to make music because God has given us the gift of music.
In public education, educational philosophy begins with human beings rather than with God. The subjects are taught – and in many cases taught very well – but there’s an important piece missing. It’s as if a church were to bring in a Jewish rabbi to teach a Sunday school class on the Old Testament. The rabbi will have an excellent grasp of the subject matter and will probably teach very well. But if the rabbi believes that Jesus is not the Messiah who fulfills the Old Testament prophecies, the teaching is incomplete.
For Christian parents who want their children to see God as the center of the universe and to look at all of life from a God-centered perspective, constant exposure to that human-centered approach to life and learning is difficult to counteract, however involved those parents are in their children’s lives and education.
Christians do need to be involved in local education. I believe that it is Christian adults who can have the most impact, as teachers, as members of school boards, as active members of their communities. We need to be quite sure that our children and young people have a solid foundation and the tools they need before we send them out to confront falsehood and refute wrong ideas. For that reason, I think that Christian education (whether Christian school or Christian home school) is vitally important.
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Public schools are easy to bash, but hard to replace. Educating your own kids is one thing, but the State really does have a compelling interest in an educated populace. My position on public education has changed drastically since I started working in the inner city.
Almost none of my patients are married. They live with mothers, grandmothers, or “aunties.” They can barely read or write. If they have an appointment at the same time as something they want to watch on TV, they skip the appointment without calling. Expecting such people to select a school, much less home school, would be cruel. All of this is directly attributable to the welfare state. Even if the welfare state were to be dismantled, which very few Americans want, it would take a generation to do it.
Which brings us to education. As Joel says, “..we … long ago conceded the most critical territory of all.” It isn’t just our kids we should be concerned about, but everyone’s. The philosophy with which they’re being indoctrinated is harmful to everyone who holds it, and to the nation as a whole. We stand by as the NEA fills them with heinous untruths and half-truths, then wonder at the predictable results. If we are to make a cultural difference, one place we should focus is the public schools. We should be volunteering in the classroom and running for the school board, loving the children and arguing with the administrators (and loving them, too). The Left long ago adopted a long-game strategy while too many of us, hoping for imminent rapture, abandoned any kind of earthly future vision.
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I only have a few months to make this decision. I have been very pleased with the private Christian Kindergarten he is in right now, but it only goes to 5K. A friend of my husband is an educator and is urging us to give the local public school a chance. This is the deep South and most of the liberal nutty stuff hasn’t gotten here yet. My brother who is about to graduate his youngest from public school says much the same as Followthru. It all depends on parental involvement. But neither are committed evangelical Christians. How much damage can be done in one year if I make a mistake.
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Dr Stubob, your experience sounds similar to that of Theodore Dalrymple. (I believe that is the author’s nom de plume). He is a physician in England. In the UK much of the same social pathologies we detect in the USA’s welfare state underclass are present there as well. Since this area Dr Dalrymple works in is predominantly native English, its a canard for anyone to claim this is unique to anyone skin pigment group. An American author, David Blankenhorn, has written at length on the cost of “Fatherless America” and the ensuing external costs all of us will bear based on inability of some folks to marry prior to childbearing.
I would bet too that these young mothers and their kids don’t have much in the way of read aloud story time either. That is if they have children’s books in the home at all (assuming the mom or grandma or “Auntie” can read the text).
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As a product of 19 years of public education, spanning from Kindergarten to graduate school, this article is a huge exaggeration. I have a lot of problems with public education in this country; that it isn’t doing a good job on the “education” front, but this article is just silly.
It’s also worth noting that the decision to have public education is made at the local level. Localities all across this country have decided that it’s a good idea to ensure that all children have the opportunity to pursue an education. If you disagree, work at the local level to disband your local school district and/or school board.
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“How much damage can be done in one year if I make a mistake.”
Not as much as you might think. Nothing that can’t be fixed.
My thought would be to keep “the kid” in the Christian school through grade 5, then begin homeschooling.
One warning though, as I know he’s a strong-willed little boy – Get him used to listening to & obeying you on homework or other projects, or trying to homeschool will be a huge frustration.
But if you are comfortable with the public school, & both you & your husband feel led that way, go for it.
(Above all, I suggest praying for God’s direction in this & that you & your husband be of one accord.)
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Not just the inner city, Stubob. It is everywhere. Parents are (too busy) for their children. Whether it is meetings or movies or tv or magazines or methamphetamine or whatever. They are dependent on others to do the raising. In an ideal world, people who cared would step forward as teachers and teach them. As it is, people do step forward and many are very good and many are not and most have goals, and not all of those goals are what the parents want, if they would take the time to examine them. What I see in public school goes along with the post, teaching the kids to be children of the state. Not adults, mind you, eternal children of the state.
KBells, the public schools are there and not to be feared. If that is what you agree to do, be involved and do it! Lots of good strong kids come out of public school. But be aware that the child will be being taught things that you will not agree with. The teacher is not his mother away from home as our fourth grade teacher likes to tell it. She is a paid employee to do a job.
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Case in point: we have been discussing integrity at home. The value of telling the truth. The importance of honesty. Do you tend to believe people whom you have known to be dishonest? Do you tend to believe people when you lie? That sort of thing. Forementioned teacher gave a fine example in class when she explained how she had broken a crown on a tooth by using her teeth to open a container of paint. She then called the dentist from the classroom to make an appointment, explaining to him that she was chewing on some food when the crown broke. Upon getting off the phone, she explained that the dentist would not have been happy with the truth so she lied. Well, I for one, do not appreciate that sort of example for my fourth grader or anybody else’s fourth grader. Are they then to believe her when she speaks? She is, after all, their mother away from home.
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Stubob,
The horrible conditions of public schools and the horrible students that are in them is is the direct result of socialists controlling government and making compassionate others think education is a government matter. It is not a government matter or a right spelled put in the constitution. The best they can point to in ‘public welfare’ clause when it comes to government and education. But we did the public socialized welfare thing already over decades and decades when it comes to education as created, lead, controlled, specified and taught by socialists. We even abundantly funded it for them at outrageous levels, better than any country that has ever been on this planet.
But the longer they teach the more horrible the outcomes and it failed in their hands miserably and the poor people they say only they are sworn to protect, as always suffer the worse for their incompetence and evil ideology. So the poorest and most vulnerable minorities among us suffer at the hands of these evil people yet it is us the left blames for their failures over and over again when it is, as always, the left who is to blame
But it is worse than that. When you point this out and clearly show that socialism and socialists always fail horribly at everything they have ever tried to do, or touched, when compared to capitalists and capitalism, they refuse to admit it or allow any change whatsoever without fighting it and us to the bitter end. Instead, they claim we didn’t give them enough money and have hindered them in some insane way and they are totally blameless. What idiots they are and fools we are.
There is no difference with any socialist program they have ever invented including Social Security and Medicare. All are horrible failures as well as moral and financially bankrupt like our public education system.
Your compassion is well and good but if you ever want to apply it successfully you will have to do it outside of public socialist systems that are doomed to horrible failure as are those that try to make it work. It can’t ever work and never will no matter who or what tries.
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Llama — I have mixed feelings about the whole concept of government education. I believe in public roads, public parks, and national forests. There is room in our government for a certain common experience, and that may or may not include schools. Particularly if they’re locally controlled, the Constitution is silent on them. Say you want to abolish the Dept of Education and I’ll agree wholeheartedly.
I admire your ideological consistency, but I don’t think you understand how bad things are in poor areas. If you’ve never met your father and your mother is a crackhead, and you live with your great aunt, who’d rather you didn’t, public education is your only chance to become a taxpayer. I know this hypothetical situation is brought on by government programs, but that only makes the public responsibility to these children greater.
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KBells, schools (sometimes even within the same district) vary tremendously. How much you are allowed to input varies a lot also. Teachers vary tremendously also. Some are actually on your side. Others are like the ones Mumsee is talking about. All types of education have their good and bad points. I pray your decision will be the wisest for you and your child.
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Hey Llama- some of the most socialist countries in the world, which coincidentally have some of the lowest levels of income disparity, also have some of the top public school systems in the world.
What’s up with that?
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It seems rather strange to me why a parent would want to put their kids in a public school, when they have to “refute wrong notions” all the time. In my opinion, that is like trying to drive up a steep hill. Being taught wrong things is like being in neutral and rolling back down the hill. Refuting wrong notions is pushing the car back to where it was before. However, the car is now no further up the hill than when it began.
Unfortunately, if parents put their Christian kids in public schools to be “lights unto the world,” the kids are often influenced by those at their school; the very ones that they were supposed to be changed by the “lights.”
Coming from a purely political standpoint, public schools, as with anything that the government takes control of, will be a failure. Many, if not all of the conservative talk show hosts such as Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity hold that public schools are now just “government indoctrination centers.”
Sadly, this is indeed true. If you control what is being taught to children, you will control the next generation. Is it any surprise that when tyrannical leaders such as Hitler wanted to control some place, he took the children and indoctrinated them and fed them his ideals?
It is not possible to oversee all the activities and everything a child has learned in school, no matter how much a parent may try.
It is much more productive to train kids up to be lights in the world, rather than sending them out into a public school when they are still young. The teen years can be a highly developmental period for young people, and putting them into a situation where they can be influenced negatively is not the best idea. Even determined people get worn down by propaganda that is constantly repeated, and what happens in schools?
14,000 seat hours of “teaching.” I think I’ve said enough for now.
I might write more later, but I don’t really think that it’s necessary.
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Buddyglass
Why do so many people from around the world try to come to the USA for their education if their own country has such top schools? – our university’s are full of them from every country -
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Victoria #22:
They come here because the United States has some of the best research universities in the World. Nobody disputes that. Those foreign students are also part of the reason our research universities are regarded so highly.
For what it’s worth, in some fields, you see American students going abroad for graduate school. Or, if not graduate school school, then to do post doctoral research. This is especially true for mathematics and theoretical physics.
But this is all moot, since weren’t talking about graduate research universities; we were talking about primary and secondary public schools.
If you adjusted for standard of living when comparing the U.S. to other Western European countries, then I think the difference would be less stark than it currently is. However, even then I’m pretty sure the U.S. would not compare favorably.
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Stubob,
I tried to reply to you yesterday, but my computer wouldn’t let me. I know quite a few people (including some of my siblings) who more or less smugly say all Christians should pull their children out of the public schools right now, and part of their reason is they think that would somehow collapse the public schools…and they want to see them collapse. They insist that private schools would quickly fill the gap. On several levels, I disagree.
First, we have nowhere near the infrastructure for private schools to educate many times the children they do now (neither the schools, nor the teachers), and second, poor parents won’t suddenly come up with money for private schools. Having lived in the inner city and seen, indeed, how poorly many of the kids are educated (eleven-year-olds who can barely read first-grade books and have to use their fingers to add four plus three), I do know the current system isn’t working. But dumping these kids onto the streets during the day wouldn’t help anybody but gang recruiters–most of them are not going to end up in private schools if they are no longer legally required to attend school, and if the funds aren’t avaialable to pay for schooling. Whenever we talk about public schools, we simply must talk about how our “solutions” affect the poor. I’d say the private schools need to be in place NOW to deal with the poor (in many places they are), and offering good competition will help more than longing for the collapse of public schools.
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Cheryl — I know all about those people. I would never have admitted that I wanted the public schools to fail, but I was sure they were going to any minute. Fifteen years ago, my broker was pushing tax-free zero-coupon bonds from several school districts. I was reluctant to buy them, so certain was I that the end was near for public schools. Now, as they mature and the money sends my kids to college, I’m glad I was wrong.
But, yes, we need to have alternatives in place.
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The most frightening thing is that we don’t really know what Obama is going to do. As the news come in from NPR that he has won Ohio, this is a little ironic. But think about it. From all the debates (which I studied carefully) Obama didn’t say too much. I suspect that he has revealed very little of himself and what he stands for.
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I have NOT read all the comments. I read the article and first few comments the other day, and have reflected on it. So, if someone else has made my point, please forgive me.
We all know what a mess the public schools are. Many private schools are horrible too. My daughters had horrible times in private schools with teachers who would not even listen when they tried to correct them on simple errors in the textbooks like 4+3 is not 8.
BUT- Public schools are a blessing for those with no alternative. They are one of the things that has made this country great. Where else could the child of poor people who cannot read or write or add learn to do those things?
I could go on but I probably should work.
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I have been there. I taught in public school in a school right on the border with Mexico (low income, second-language learners). I taught in private school. I am now homeschooling my own children.
1) You CANNOT, and I really do mean CANNOT, possibly counter all the incorrect things your child(ren) will be taught in public school. For some teachers, it is a constant stream in their words, their actions, and their choices which are a result of their world view. Your child won’t even know that he or she is being indoctrinated, and won’t be able to tell you all the things he or she is learning.
As with most children, you will get “nothing” or “I don’t know” when you ask what they did at school. Even if you have a more talkative child, he or she simply won’t realize the constant, incorrect world view to which he or she is subjected.
Not from all teachers, certainly. But, 90% of teachers identify with a Liberal agenda, and — of those — a goodly portion are actively working to teach your child values different from yours. They see you as the ENEMY. I have been in the teacher work rooms. They really do.
What you will often get is a child who is double-minded. He will believe one thing on Sunday morning and Wednesday night in church, but his world view the rest of the time will be thoroughly secular and possibly even anti-God.
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2) Young children, and even most teenagers, are not ready to be “salt and light” in their classrooms. Not only have we taught them (hopefully) to respect those in charge, but they don’t want to look the fool in front of their friends.
Even more, without a strong background in apologetics and in world view, they won’t even recognize the vast majority of the indoctrination that they are being subjected to.
Children need to be thoroughly trained before being thrown to the wolves. Most Christian children will be changed by the culture. They will not change the culture.
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3) If a parent is capable, then I would strongly encourage that parent to either homeschool or pay to put their child in a Christian private school.
Homeschooling is better if you’re willing and able to do it.
I don’t understand parents who CAN who simply don’t see (or want to see) the danger. Our primary responsibility as parents is to rear up Godly children.
If our child becomes a great investment banker and millionaire, what will it matter if their soul is lost?
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4) However, having taught in public schools in a low-income, minority area, I understand what StuBob is saying completely. There will always be children who cannot be homeschooled or privately schooled (unless we come up with some sort of voucher system or a whole new way of thinking about education.)
For some of these children, school is the only sanity they know and the only time they get a real meal. School (and a good teacher) opens up the world to them and gives them a chance.
Thus, I do encourage Christian ADULTS to go into teaching at public schools. Be the mentor for that child who does not have a real mentor. Be the teacher that makes a difference!
Run for the school board. Volunteer in the classroom and in after school programs.
I plan on going back to teaching when my kids are out of school. I want to make a difference. We need Christians working in the system to make a difference, because otherwise we abandon all the children whose parents can’t or won’t find alternative educations for them.
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5) The Liberals long since learned that they need to get to our children. Why do you think that Obama got so many votes from CHRISTIANS? (Approximately half of Christians voted for him.) You will say, “I don’t believe in abortion.” They will agree with you. “I don’t believe in picking people’s pockets for government programs that don’t work as well as private programs.” They will agree with you. “I believe in free speech.” They will agree with you.
And, then they vote for Obama anyway. Why?
Their world view, their bottom core, is not Christian. They may be a Christian, but they don’t think like one. They think like the public schools have taught them to think.
The Liberals were smarter than we were. They infiltrated the teaching system. They have taught even the Christian students to be “double-minded.” Sure, they still call themselves Christian, but they don’t think like a Christian.
Can two – three hours a week possibly counteract 30+ hours a week?
We didn’t realize, and we’ve lost a huge portion of our youth.
Statistically, Christian youth leave the church in DROVES after they graduate school. I have heard that we retain less than 6%. (I’ve even heard worse.)
Why? Because they spent 30+ hours a week for 12 years absorbing a world view that was not Christian. And we wonder why we’re losing them?
Radicals know this. You can even read it in their writings. I believe Dewey (of the Dewey decimal system) wrote about doing this. Many of them are working ACTIVELY to do this. Others are products of the system themselves.
I was a product of the teacher training. I called myself a Christian, but I did NOT have a Christian world view at all when I came out of getting my teaching credential. God called me back when I had my son.
It is common. Even the nicest teachers often support a non-Christian world view. And, there are many who are NOT nice, and who really are trying to actively undermine the parents. I know them. I’ve met them. They are in your school too.
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6) Then you talk about “peer orientation.” Children become peer oriented when they value their peers over their parents and other adult members in their lives.
This is becoming commonplace in the public schools. And, it is not Christians who are noticing it, but even secular scientists. See the articles and books by Gordon Neufeld.
It’s amazing how many parents worry (unnecessarily) about lack peer contact and “socialization” with homeschooling and don’t realize that the research is showing the exact opposite. Not only are homeschooled kids *better* at socializing with others, but so many kids in public schools are becoming peer-oriented (a very negative thing.)
We cannot expect children to not only defend in incompletely formed Christian world view against adults, but also to defend a Christian world view against their peers and their peers’ families world views!
We must give them the tools before we send them out to be loving “salt and light.”
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Thank you, TRS, that took some time to write but was very well said. We just got news today that our adoption may be completed in early December and then we will be free to educate our chldren as we see best. We have already ordered many of the books to begin. Meanwhile, we do constant battle against a world view contrary to the one we are drawn to.
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Mumsee – God will use & bless your efforts.
TRS – Thanks for your posts. This thread came at just the right time. My 16-yr. old daughter was thinking she wanted to go back to public school (she’s been homeschooled since 6th grade) to be with her best friend. The original post & many of the comments have reminded me of why we’re doing this.
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That’s a life changed. Point here when Random asks “Why do you post on WMB?”
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This thread is so important! Kbells, if you think you can homeschool, I encourage you to try. You can always adjust later if you find it too difficult.
Like with having kids, if you wait until you feel “prepared”, you’ll never start.
I’d also encourage you with such a young one to concentrate on small victories–don’t try too much right out of the gate and end up with a large defeat!
I’m not a “natural” at teaching. I get good curriculum, and take small “bites”–for us, 2 pages of math, 2 pages of language, etc. each day.
For science, use library DVDs and then discuss them–esp the worldview behind them.
Most of all, befriend a veteran homeschooler and get support/advice!
I really think you’ll be thankful that you did!
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I had to sign off earlier, but one other very important tip–read out loud with your son every day.
Have him read out loud to you-it can be an adventure story, or read about snakes…anything that interests him. You read a little, have him read a little…eventually, he’ll be doing most of the reading, and learning another subject at the same time.
All my kids have become fluent readers this way.
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Mumsee,
Wonderful news on the adoption! Keep us posted!
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