Attack of the mousy people (really)
Everybody’s grubbing for some of that Giant Thanksgiving Bailout Pie, that $700 million pile that’s still mostly uneaten. The Times will tell you all about the evil lobbyists lining up to get their clients’ hands on it, but they probably won’t speak so unmercifully about another group of folks who have come to the feeding frenzy: the librarians. The American Library Association, in fact, who is asking for a full $100 million of the pie. That’s a big slice, don’t you think? Their argument is that public libraries “help Americans with job searches, small business development, financial literacy and other essential assistance in hard economic times.” A good argument for at least a little money is that libraries provide something people can’t afford: not just books, but internet access.
[ALA President Jim Rettig] pointed to a recent ALA study showing that 73 percent of all libraries nationwide provide the only free Internet access in their communities. In rural areas the rate rises to 83 percent, according to the 2007-2008 report on public library funding and technology access. Many libraries are reporting double-digit growth in computer use this year, he said.
A recent Pennsylvania study points out that for every dollar invested in the public library, the community receives a return of $5.50. A similar report from Florida shows a $6.54 return on investment.
Well, that’s a good argument for the relevance of and need for libraries, but I’m not sure the argument is worth that much money. What do you think?














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You mean 700 billion pile? IN which about 350 billion is left? Sorta…
Anyway, libraries are nice. They are actually useful, unlike most of the government. I’d say its a far better investment to hand them 100 mil than it is to hand 100 million to the american auto industry.
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I cant believe that with all that money Barney Frank wants the Govt to buy stinky stocks from the car companies? Why not stock in the super profitable “Big Oil” industry? Boeing? Microsoft??
Please politicians, if the govt is gonna buy stocks then buy stocks. But pick winning companies, not just businesses with unionized and reliably Democratic workers.
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Libraries are great places for homeless folks to sleep in and take the infrequent lavatory bath. The homeless folks can also surf for smut on the web courtesy of John Q Public’s tax money.
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Uhm, isn’t the bailout figure $700 billion
$100 MM / $700 BB = .0001428
or .0143%
To quote Anton Ego “I’d like some fresh, clear, well seasoned perspective.”
Another way to think about $100 MM is that voter turnout last week was about 122,842,626. Or, about 81.4 cents per voter. Tell ya what, I’d donate about $10/year for better libraries, so if there are a dozen people here opposed to giving a pittance of the bailout funds to support libraries, I’ll send each a check for 82 cents to defer their costs on this.
I say be bold – give GM’s share of the bailout to the ALA. (and $100 million to GM, if you must….) It would be a wiser spending decision!
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They aren’t supposed to buying stocks in anything. We were told they were going to have to buy up Toxic Collateralized Mortgage Bonds or the world was going to end. Well, the world didn’t end but the whole $700 billion bailout was nothing more than con the congress put over on the eh American people like they always do.
These princes, of the pauper people, want to steal all the money and give it to their cronies who helped get them elected. This the goal of our elected officials not what ever they told you was going to kill you. Just watch what they do and how they do it. It is nothing more than huge windfall slushfund (I wonder why socialists aren’t taxing that), while smaller than the US yearly budget slushfund they steal every year, it is all in one place, a huge pile, and too tempting for them to ignore even though they know we are watching them. they don’t care . They know you are sheeple and will re-elect them even if they kill your children for their their profit. Which is what they are doing by the way – you might have misssed it – but you did reelect them didn’t you?
Like I said, if we are going to become Marxists and nationalize car companies let’s at least do it right and nationalize Toyota, Honda and Nissan instead of the dead GM, Ford and Chrystler. This isn;t a bailout if US autimalkers this is a bailout oif unions that destroyed US auto majkers like they did every iother industry they ever touched. Let’s get ths straight, the bailout is going straight into the hands of the UAW as a kickback from the democrats they elected and nothign more.
You forget this is not your money and never was. It was congresses money – they stole it fair and square. What will be yours is the debt they will float to pay for the money gthey stole from you. See the difference – they do. After you are saddled huge debt, then inflation will kick in, the world will see you are broke and we will have to print money causing inflation that will slam you later adn cause a real financial crisi. And you thought $4 gasoline was obscene. You will be going to bed begging God in your nightly prayers to make it $4 one day.
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Put more computers in the government employment offices that we all ready pay for. They have some already. Isn’t that what those offices are already for?
I appreciate my library computer. I use it when mine goes down. I have to drive about 15 miles to get to that, which is the same drive for me to the employment office. Let’s not blur lines that shouldn’t be blurred. I guess there is a lot of that going around, though.
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KI,
You should move into town
I can walk to my branch library from home in 10 minutes, or to the main library downtown from work in 5 minutes.
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That was meant to be facetious, no offense to you. Our suburbs are closing branches in old neighborhoods where kids and seniors could walk to, and building mega branches in the center of town, so you do have to drive 15 minutes to get to them. IRG.
Seriously, though, it’s always the first thing they want to cut when the county budget is tight. And yet, miraculously, they find tens if not hundreds of millions to build stadiums and casinos. After all, Ralph Wilson desparately needs a taxpayer subsidized place for the Bills to be able to turn a profit for him!
It’ll be a better world when schools and libraries are fully funded, and NFL teams have to hold bake sales and used sporting goods sales to make ends meet.
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This is totally disgusting. As Llama points out, the Fed isn’t buying Troubled Assets as promised. Now they are buying bank stocks.
The $700 Billion that such a brouhaha was made over, is a mere pittance compared to the $5 Trillion that’s being foisted off on us….
Oh yes, the economy is gonna crash, but it’s not for the reason we were told it was. It’s gonna crash because they’re printing play money and backing it up with our taxes. We’re gonna be taxed right out of prosperity, and into oblivion.
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We have internet at home (DSL). Our small town has a small library with 2 or 3 s-l-o-w computers. It would be great if they could get high speed service. I once went to the library where I used to live (city of 20,000). Each patron was allowed 60 minutes, but the connection was so snail paced, that I barely had time to check my email and do one or two “quick” searches.
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Libraries are usually funded by municipalities. If yours is crappy and you don’t like it, talk to your neighbors and/or get your check book out. Why should the rest of us, already paying for all the lunacy our governments come up with, help pay for yours?
Frankly, our library seems over funded and has no problem finding things to spend money on considering the list of annual programs they sponsor. There is always an abundance of “reference” librarians wandering around with nothing to look up and usually several open computers.
You know how an establishment feels/appears when it’s really busy and the workers are actually earning their keep? Well, we’re talking cob webs here and they’re not from old age as everything is the latest and greatest.
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Thomas,
Your math is spot on; however, why should I pay for a library in California (or Texas or New York) when I already pay for my local one?
This is a local issue (city or county), not a federal one (my library is the Columbus Public Library, Hilliard branch, not the US Library, Hilliard branch).
That said, I will declare myself a bank holding company or library to get ‘my fair share’ of the pork pie.
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Thomas, maybe someday I will move into town. Right now I love my own neighborhood, which has more cows than people.
What criteria would we use to measure a fully funded library? Most libraries have citizen boards to help promote them and do volunteer work. Local citizens know more what is needed and what is wasted, so better to make the decisions there.
Employment centers have computers to help the unemployed find employment. The staff is supposed to be able to help do it. It would seem that libraries are trying to take over another area that would be best served where it is.
I’m all for funding libraries. I am all for computers in them. My particular library has a staff that refuses to work hours for when the public is able to get there. They are the only ones in the area that do this. I actually have at least three other libraries within a 20 mile radius. This refusal doesn’t make people sympathetic when they ask for more money, since the other libraries make the effort to actually serve the public by having decent hours. For instance, by being open on Saturday during the summer and a couple of evenings past 5pm. These are issues that don’t get discussed on a national level. Keep it local.
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Well Scott, you can go and fill out the form along with all the rest of the money-grubbers. I should fill one out for the company I work for…
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I work at a public library in New York state. We have just received word that Gov. Patterson is hoping to cut library funding by $20 million to help meet the budget shortfall. There are many libraries that could use grants for more computers, for providing computer classes, for subscription databases, for specialized literacy or job relevant materials. Or a grant for staffing for more hours of being open. Libraries are not a bad place to invest some of the bailout money. I appreciate the positive comments made about libraries here. For the most part we do try to serve the public.
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