Attack of the theater people (really)
Working in the professional theater can be tough for a conservative believer, where, for about 2,500 years, the reputation of Theater People has not always been the most virtuous. They are fun people, to be sure. And not that it’s bad to work among a worldly crowd of artists, just that it’s extremely difficult to keep one’s bearings in that world, where the moral codes are experimental (at best) and lewd (at worst). Only the wisest, humblest, most talented, and most self-possessed believers can work in a world like that without completely losing themselves to it, or compromising with it on ideologies and issues. That’s what I was thinking, vaguely, after reading this article about a theater director who resigned after it was revealed that he donated $1,000 in support of Proposition 8 in California, to ban gay marriage.
“That a man who makes his living exclusively through the musical theater could do something so hurtful to the community that forms his livelihood is a punch in the stomach,” [one Broadway producer] said. “He didn’t just vote for it. One thousand dollars is a lot of money for an artistic director of a nonprofit.”
The gay community is no small player in the world of professional theater, and this director’s clear advocacy against gay marriage is confusing, and angering, a lot of people. When the Church talks about Christians reclaiming and working in the arts, this is what can happen. It’s not just about working with a bunch of pagans. That can be fun and rewarding. It’s about philosophies butting up against each other like tectonic plates. It’s not easy. That director, a Mormon (not the issue here, people), probably worked his whole life to get a coveted artistic director position at a prominent theater, and now he’s done, at least in that world.














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“The gay community is no small player in the world of professional theater…”
The same can be said for the retail industry, as I found out during my days working for The Limited.
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He could…you know…not have made such an issue out of gay marriage. It strikes me that many people’s aversion to the Gospel stems more from the political stance of many Christians than it does the Gospel itself. Some political stances are of course non-negotiable. Others aren’t. I’m not so sure gay marriage doesn’t fall into the latter category.
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So it really isn’t about tolerance afterall . . .
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This is the choice most Christian artists have to make. Work in the secular world that is hostile to your faith or work in the Christian world which often times just doesn’t understand artists.
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Why was it revealed that he donated the $1000? Did he divulge that information, is it public information, or did someone do something illegal?
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For a largely ignored news story on actual homosexual beliefs about ‘tolerance’ in regards to Christians, see the following
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,450884,00.html
Welcome to the new Clockwork Orange World, brought direct to you courtesy of the Left. Coming soon to your neighborhood and home.
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I have followed this situation closely, which has become a huge deal in Sacramento. Allow me to make some points:
1. There have been excesses on both sides of the dispute. There were some who were calling for him to be fired, which would be wrong in my opinion.
2. He voluntarily resigned to save the theater from further turmoil. Given the situation, it was the gracious and correct thing to do.
3. The organization is a private employer, not a government entity.
4. His Mormon faith did come into play in his decision to donate the money to the “Yes on 8″ campaign.
5. Given the business he is in, he made a very poor judgment by donating the money. It would be akin to a manager of a Steak House giving money to PETA to fund an initiative outlawing meat.
6. To his credit, he realized he made an error, and donated the same amount to the HRC. His apology was sincere I believe.
7. Sometimes the decisions you make have far more repercussions than you ever imagine. When you are working in a high-visibility job the repercussions are even greater.
8. The gay community has every right to be upset and to use whatever legal means are at their disposal to express their displeasure, including e-mails, letters, withholding of patronage, and boycotting the organization.
Finally, I would say that a “sleeping giant” has been awakened by the passing of Prop 8 in California. While I know it hasn’t been covered by Worldmag, the protests and reactions have been growing daily, not just in California, but around the country. Gay people are fighting back against the declaration that they are second-class citizens under the law. It’s unjust and immoral.
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Make it Man,
Donations greater than $500 toward an initiative in California are public record.
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Yes ANLIR, ‘fighting’ is the right word. The sodomites are physically attacking churches and people. The sodomite community wants to redefine marriage that is what is unjust and immoral.
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Anlir,
You often say that homosexuals are treated as second-class citizens, which brings up a couple questions:
(1) If same-sex marriage remained outlawed, yet civil unions were allowed in all states and were granted the exact same benefits of marriage, would you still complain with the “second-class” argument?
(2) Does Obama think homosexuals are “second-class”?
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There have been attacks on both sides Ivan.
A Jewish Temple was desecrated by the “Pro 8″ side for their support of marriage equality. “No on 8″ people received death threats and threats of violence. Gay people had their homes picketed by the “Pro 8″ people, screaming at them and calling them nasty names. A few homes were spraypainted with anti-gay slogans.
Let’s be fair here.
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11. But you claim to be the party of “tolerance”. Just as you hold us to a higher standard on Family values shouldn’t you hold yourselves to a higher stand on tolerance?
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That should be “higher standard on tolerance?”
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“5. Given the business he is in, he made a very poor judgment by donating the money. It would be akin to a manager of a Steak House giving money to PETA to fund an initiative outlawing meat.”
I dont think thats a fair comparison. Its a private company, but my understanding is thats it not called the “Gay Theater” or some equivelent that promotes homosexuality instead of theater. Futher, voting or donating to the cause of Prop 8 doesnt deny homosexuality or illegalize it.
A manager of Steak House could easily donate to PETA for a “protect the chickens fund” and not have a conflict of interest.
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“…the political stance of many Christians than it does the Gospel itself.”
False dichotomy. This kind of saying comes out of a desire that faith have absolutely no practical consequences.
Was John the Baptist’s rebuke of Herod a political or a religious act?
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Anlir’s right; this private organization should be able to hire and fire however they like. Just like the Boy Scouts. [Yes, I understand he resigned "voluntarily."] Perhaps, being in such a gay-heavy line of work, he and his dog should have given $500 each.
Gay marriage bans passed in every state where they appeared on the ballot. I’m not particularly frightened of the Sleeping Gay Giant.
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Graceland,
1. Difficult to answer given that I support civil unions for all couples (for the legal side of things), with “marriage” being reserved for the church (for the ceremonial side of things). I should also note that “separate but equal” will not stand up to the Court.
2. Obama has stated his religious objection to marriage equality. That’s disappointing. But he remains persuadable I believe. I have no illusions that he will be anything but a disappointment on issues that are near and dear to gay people. But he’s still a far sight better than the Republicans.
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Thorn,
The theater is also a private company. While no analogy is perfect, the one I gave is certainly appropriate.
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Could I fire an employee for donating to the NAACP?
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Anlir 17,
I agree with you 100% on number 1.
As for number 2, while I’m aware you agree with Obama on most other than the same-sex marriage debate, I’m going to prod you a little more. You’ve repeatedly made the blanket statement that Christians or Pro-Prop 8 advocates consider homosexuals as second-class citizens. I’d like to hear you say the same about Obama.
Say it with me, “President-elect Obama thinks I am a second-class citizen.”
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I have no problem with who or how a private company hires and fires. But the theater industry as a whole cannot be owned solely by homosexuals.
Your analogy doesnt fit, is my point. The man has no problem working with or in an industry full of homosexuals. However, he does agree that marriage is between a man and a woman. So why would you fire a guy at the Steak House for protecting chickens? He’s all in favor of cooking cows.
He is obviously a pretty good director to have made that position as well. So now youve forced out a quality director and person, simply because he believed marriage was traditional between a man and a woman.
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Especially since theater itself has little to do with the outside world. Its acting, its plays, its literature come to life. Why should he be fired/resigned over a donation that does nothign to affect theater itself?
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HSK,
You just outed the theater fairies, their intollerance, bigotry and discrimination tactics all in one piece.
They don’t make gulag cells small enough for people like you. Who would haqve thought you were so brave. Don’t let them know your real name
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If we are going to be fair, then this man should not have had to resign for a political contribution any more than if a No on 8 supporter was forced to resign from any other private company for an equal contribution.
I appluad him for both standing by his convictions and being the bigger man for the sake of the theatre. It is not without sacrifice to do what one believes is right.
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If he had been forced to resign for contributing to the other side there would be a lawsuit.
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Graceland,
Obama clearly stated that he was opposed to Prop 8. He’s personally against marriage equality based on his religious faith. But he is not in favor of imposing his religious beliefs on other people.
So, no, I am not prepared to say that Obama considers gay people to be second-class citizens.
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Anlir,
I guess I’m a little foggy on Obama’s position. He’s against same-sex marriage personally, believes it should be left up to the states to decide, yet he is against California deciding to outlaw it.
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Graceland,
Yes, yes, and yes. What’s “foggy” about that?
Take another issue: marijuana
Some people are personally opposed to it’s use, believe it should be left for each state to decide on it’s legality, but are against it being made illegal.
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David #15:
Not a false dichotomy. You’ll notice I included that some political views are, essentially, non-negotiable from a moral standpoint. Others are not.
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He’s personally against marriage equality based on his religious faith. But he is not in favor of imposing his religious beliefs on other people.
What does his “personal belief” mean in this context–that he’s against marrying a man, himself?
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Scott Eckern deserved the protest – it was his own choice to resign.
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#26 Anlir,
As I have told you many times. Marriage is completely equal for all Americans. We all live under the same set of laws that were created for the benefit of everyone. You do not deserve seperate laws made just for you no matter how many times you claim otherwise. America has spoken – get over it. I suggest spending time findig a cure instead. It can’t be as wasteful as the time you have been spending trying to out a square peg in a round hole
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If he had stayed would he have been illegally harassed?
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Funny, if we’d lost the vote, and then gone out protesting violently because we’re forced to allow homosexuals to marry, to live in our rental homes (as a couple), to hire them for Church positions, etc. — then we’d be called “haters” and every other name in the book. We’d be treated as less than human excrement.
But, when the shoe is on the other foot, it is “noble” and “understandable” and perfectly okay.
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This summer I auditioned for a local theater presentation. The director eventually offered me the role of a gay professional who had a partner. I had no problem with the story line, in fact it was powerful.
I eventually had to refuse the offer though because I just couldn’t in good conscience make a public stand that would promote a lifestyle I believe to be sinful. If I had to be a promiscuous heterosexual, I would have had the same convictions.
The director took great offense when I explained why I could not accept his gracious offer. He stormed away from me and wouldn’t even consider me for any other roles. There is a price to be paid when you make a public stand against homosexuality. I know I did the right thing though.
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As a Christian who works professionally in the theater world, I can say that many of the gay men and women I know felt persecuted by the church and fled to the theater communities in places like New York and Chicago, where they weren’t constantly mocked and sneered at and could be around people who understood or tried to understand them.
If Christians are going to interact fruitfully with the theater community, they’ll need approach it with some humility, since it’s been violently attacked by people who claim the name of Christ.
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#35
Somebody has to play the role necessary for the powerful story line you approve of — it seems rather strange that you disapprove of the role but not the story line.
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