Long after the retreat
I’m going to a woman’s retreat this weekend, so it’s not in my best interest to tell you what A.W. Tozer and Martyn Lloyd-Jones say about retreats and such, but I will:
“So many of us say, ‘All right, I’ll attend another Bible conference,’ or ‘I’ll take a course,’ or ‘I’ll buy a book.’ My friends, what we need is not more instruction, we’ve been instructed to death. Where in the world is there more fundamental Bible teaching than here in Chicago? This is the Mecca of Fundamentalism. This is the Vatican of Evangelicalism. We’ve got notebooks at home stacked high that go back twenty-five years. They tell us of some new sidelight on some text or some new illustration somebody gave to point up a doctrine. But, oh, what weak creatures we are! What joyless people we are!” (A.W. Tozer, “These Faithful Wounds”)
“You may be in a dry, arid spiritual condition, and you read a biography somebody gives you. And as you read it your heart is warmed and moved and you feel altogether better and different. It leads you to a season of prayer for this blessing and great diligence in your Christian life. But that only lasts for a while. Then you read another such book and the same thing happens again. You can spend your life like that.” (Martyn Lloyd-Jones, Joy Unspeakable)
There’s nothing wrong with retreats, any more than there’s something wrong with weddings. But the crucial thing is the day after. And the day after that. Tozer adds, “I believe God wants us to long for Him with the longing that will become lovesickness, that will keep us always moving toward Him.” I have that, and if you ask how I got it, it is His grace as I pray constantly and read his Word like my life depends on it.

















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I confess to not often reading the word as if my life depended on it. Those words will haunt me.
A new Christian wondered why we even call these things “Retreats”. He thought of the military phrase where you pull back and cede the field to the enemy. True enough,But nearly every counterattack is preceded by a retreat, one where you re-equip, re-arm, re-plenish and renew your efforts. So retreats are His opportunity to give us locker-room halftime strategy.
Dont just be hearers of the word!
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Safe to assume Tozer never set foot in Rev Jeremiah Wright’s church!
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I would love to go to a silent monastery and indulge in a weekend-long Bible-directed retreat where all I did was listen to God. Somehow, that never seems to happen.
I spoke at a retreat in April on rest and came home needing one.
I get so distracted by “real” life that an opportunity to stand outside of myself and day-to-day activities would be a relief.
Not to mention I’d leave behind all the broken appliances . . .
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There is nothing wrong with retreats. I’ve been on several. Some are life changing, most are not, but generally, they are worth while. You learn things, and experience things that stay with you when you get back into “the real world”. That’s where we belong, BTW.
I don’t remember who preached it, nor the sermon, but I’ll always remember the descriptive title a Methodist preacher once had, called “The Tyranny of Time and Space”. It seems that time and space make demans against our spiritual lives.
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Aha!!!! I get it. It’s a pun, right? It’s just missing the comma: “Long, after the retreat.”
It took me all day to see that. What a dimbulb.
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Retreats also give people a more in-depth chance to fellowship with one another – much more so than sharing a lunch or dinner.
I remember one ‘Retreat’ in particular, I had the privilege of getting to know a friend much better. I was on the committee for this particular Retreat, had already made plans to room with a another very good friend. It was a rather large group of women, most of whom I knew, at least a little. As it turned out I ended up inviting a woman (older than I, with two teens) to join me for a late night coffee desert social one of my friends had planned. We went, laughed, I introduced her to everyone I knew. When the party was over we were still talking so I invited her back to my room to talk – My room-mate said she was tired, and going to bed.
My friend told me a lot about her life which I didn’t know. She had strayed from the LORD. We talked very late, I told her how much the LORD meant to me, I asked her if she wanted to re-dedicate her life to Christ, she was only to happy to do that. We prayed together, it was wonderful. I happen to look over into the next area where my room-mate was ’supposed to be sleeping’ and there she was making a sobbing noise. My friend left and went to her room – my room-mate had been praying, she heard the whole conversation.
My point in telling this story isn’t to tell you how much I learned, but to share how much we need to fellowship with others. Retreats often allow us to share and listen to others because we have the time, we can stay up late, get to know each other on a much deeper level, breaking through to what’s inside another – it was a wonderful weekend, we were so blessed, I might never have had that opportunity had it not been for such a Retreat. YES I learned a lot!
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you can spend the rest of your life seeking pretend relationships in these contrived settings.
It is real relationships, daily relationships, regular relationships with the godly that sustain us, that are used of God.
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Reg
Meeting people, getting to know them better at ‘Retreats’ is not a “pretend relationship” – many times people meet one another at gatherings and are blessed by the conversations, and interaction. They might never see one another again in their life, but the time they shared, perhaps a burden or need in their life by praying together is never forgotten.
Reaching out to many people, not just close friends is what we are to do as Believers – there are more people in this world then are best friends. Lonely people need attention too, sometimes they go to a ‘Retreat’ just to mingle and share their lives, – what a joy to meet such a person and befriend them -
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I’m really burned out on women’s retreats and conferences. They’re all pretty much a one-string guitar. We much prefer to have a few friends over for an evening of Chalcedon’s mp3s and discuss the messages over pizza or coffee and dessert. Now that’s a retreat for me!
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Those are beautiful thoughts Andrée. Those are two of my favorite theologians.
I went on a number of men’s retreats, but they inevitably ended up with lots of crying and hugging. I never really understood what all the sobbing was about. If you’re sinning, then cut it out and move on. No sense blubbering and honking your nose on my shoulder. As Paul said, “Acquit yourselves like men; be strong”. (1 Cor 16:13)
I went on a couple of marriage retreats with my wife. But both really catered to females asking men to do more housework and such, as though there were something spiritual in it.
The best retreats are when my wife and I read scripture together.
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Xion,
I don’t know the church you are affiliated with but not all retreats end up in a group hug, or any other sort of hug-a-thon – the reason I know this is because my father was a pastor, and the male member’s of my family are not retreat/huggers as though that is the end result of a ‘men’s retreat’ – It appears your experience is very different from the normal response any of my male relatives have encountered – that of course doesn’t mean hugging isn’t a good thing, it just means it was not something which the men in my family or those close to me encountered.
My husband and I have been involved with husband/wife retreats, they were great, chores such as housework never came up, it was about the Word of GOD. Xion, perhaps you have been attending retreats, etc., which cater to very immature couples who need nurturing as young married kids who were not equipped from the ‘get go’ -
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