The ascent, and then descent, of intellectual conservatism
We’ve talked a lot about the recent intellectual and spiritual failings of conservatism in America. The spiritual failing, in part, is that Republicans have squandered their ethos since 2000 (and maybe since 1992) as a party who cares about all Americans, not just the unborn. The intellectual failing is that they’ve gone rogue, appealing to a populist kind of anti-intellectualism that was supposed to appeal to Real America, but in fact appeals to nobody. It’s not a crime to use big words, as long as you do it judiciously.
For the past 40 years American conservatism has been politically ascendant, in no small part because it was also intellectually ascendant [...] Magazines like the Public Interest and Commentary became required reading for anyone seriously concerned about domestic and foreign affairs; conservative research institutes sprang up in Washington and on college campuses, giving a fresh perspective on public policy. Buckley, Irving Kristol, Nathan Glazer, Daniel Patrick Moynihan, Gertrude Himmelfarb, Peter Berger, Jeane Kirkpatrick, Norman Podhoretz — agree or disagree with their views, these were people one had to take seriously.
Mark Lilla, a professor of humanities at Columbia, asks, “So what happened”
How, 30 years later, could younger conservative intellectuals promote a candidate like Sarah Palin, whose ignorance, provinciality and populist demagoguery represent everything older conservative thinkers once stood against? It’s a sad tale that began in the ’80s, when leading conservatives frustrated with the left-leaning press and university establishment began to speak of an “adversary culture of intellectuals.”
Read on, and tell us what you think.



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back to top80 Comments to “The ascent, and then descent, of intellectual conservatism”
It depends on who you are talking to. I know a lot of judicious people who have no idea what judiciously means.
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Because Palin is the traditional ideal in my opinion. Shes not stupid despite how much the media would like one to believe otherwise.
The rogue “conservatives” havent been conservative at all. Theyve abandoned the ideals of conservatism. Time for them to go. Its not conservative when your acting like unintellectual liberals.
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Country Club Republicans and blue bloods have been trying to protect the party from hayseeds for generations. Nothing new here.
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#1 Another paean to the alleged virtues of common sense. Too often this is sung in support of what is really common nonsense.
Could it be there’s a connection between GOP/conservative pandering to the evangelical base and its descent into dumbed-down mob-rule populism? My long-ago and very-involved evangelical experience calls to mind a veritable celebration of “ignorance, provinciality and populist demagoguery” from an intellectually lazy crowd that conveniently justified their foolishness as the superior wisdom of God. Palin would have fit in well!
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Wow, this guy really hates Sarah Palin. He hasn’t convinced me, though, that she’s any worse than a lot of politicians the Democrats have put forward. Biden has had his share of gaffes and certainly doesn’t come across as “an intellectual” to anyone I know.
To the point of the article, anti-intellectualism isn’t about a dislike for big words. It’s about the use of sophistry to justify immoral policies. I was just reading a post on the First Things web site called “The Unintelligence of Intellectuals” that, citing Thomas Sowell, dealt with this exact topic. Here’s an excerpt:
During the 1930s, some of the leading intellectuals in America condemned our economic system and pointed to the centrally planned Soviet economy as a model–all this at a time when literally millions of people were starving to death in the Soviet Union, from a famine in a country with some of the richest farmland in Europe and historically a large exporter of food.
New York Times Moscow correspondent Walter Duranty won a Pulitzer Prize for telling the intelligentsia what they wanted to hear–that claims of starvation in the Ukraine were false.
After British journalist Malcolm Muggeridge reported from the Ukraine on the massive deaths from starvation there, he was ostracized after returning to England and unable to find a job.
More than half a century later, when the archives of the Soviet Union were finally opened up under Mikhail Gorbachev, it turned out that about six million people had died in that famine–about the same number as the people killed in Hitler’s Holocaust.
In the 1930s, it was the intellectuals who pooh-poohed the dangers from the rise of Hitler and urged Western disarmament.
It would be no feat to fill a big book with all the things on which intellectuals were grossly mistaken, just in the 20th century–far more so than ordinary people.
I agree, however, that we need a return to the type of conservative thinking exemplified by Richard Weaver and Russell Kirk. Bush claimed to be a conservative, but it was never clear to me that he knew the first thing about conservatism.
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On the other hand, party politics is about getting votes by whatever means necessary. Pandering to the lowest common denominator is not something the Republicans do exclusively. To imply that the Democrats are the party of highly-educated intellectuals with superior cognitive abilities is nearly hilarious.
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#5 Sowell is one of the best examples of fatuous intellectualism at its worst! Like the sub-par Clarence Thomas - an anti-affirmative action black who is only on SCOTUS because he’s black - Sowell speaks and writes as an anti-intellectual intellectual. I guess he should know about stupidity masquerading as intellectualism - that rather sums up his regular column!
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Oh jeez, Spinoza. Sorry I mentioned his name. Could you bother to reply to the content of the post, if you’re going to reply, and not to some assertion nobody made?
Oh, never mind. I forgot: you’re trying to distract attention from that content. It would hardly serve your purpose to acknowledge the reality of what he said.
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It’s also rather amusingly ironic that the liberals here resort to an anti-intellectualism of their own in order to prove their intellectual superiority.
Could you be imposed upon to argue without fallacies in every comment, please?
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“the sub-par Clarence Thomas - an anti-affirmative action black who is only on SCOTUS because he’s black”
Where’s Nick Peters when you need him.
I’m almost willing to bet you didnt even read the post either.
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Could you bother to reply to the content of the post,
Most of your posts don’t have content worth replying to …
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#10 I read post #5 (is that what you mean?) I also read the Sowell article before David L. excerpted it. I also listened to all five Sowell “chapter” videos from HSK’s post of WSJ’s Sowell interview. I’ve also read quite a number of Sowell column’s in the past. Sowell is a joke - and not worth the time it would take to point out why in detail!
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You apparently thought differently 12 minutes ago.
The truth is, you’re just not able to reply to my posts without resorting to insults and fallacies.
Grow up.
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“Sowell is a joke - and not worth the time it would take to point out why in detail!”
Well, I and many others here disagree.
You assert your opinion without giving any arguments to support it, and we’re just supposed to say, “Oh, OK.” You don’t care if anyone is persuaded, so why are you even here? Evidently just to purge some of the bile you carry around with you and to do in the faces of the people you disagree with. This is the very definition of emotional immaturity.
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In the age of alternative media, what we got is what we got. Ben Stein has a superb intellect: law degree, well versed in the Big Picture and deep issues of our political economy. Yet he also feels obligated to play up his image as the boring school teacher from “Ferris Bueller”. I believe he even hosts a game show like another closeted Hollywood conservative, Pat Sajak.
Buckley was revered and celebrated by lotsa folks on either or any side of public controversies. But he delighted in eschewing celebrityhood.
In the age of Infotainmt Tonight, we aint gonna have any class acts like Bill Buckley.
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#13 If you can’t see the paradox inherent in quoting an alleged conservative intellectual ranting against intellectualism, that’s your problem.
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#15 True that Stein is no Buckley, but Buckley’s no Einstein, either.
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You assert your opinion without giving any arguments to support it,
It’s a blog, hun - that’s what people do.
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That’s what intellectually lazy people do.
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#20 - true - it’s also what too-busy people do, which is me this morning.
My post #11 was snide - I apologize! I didn’t really mean that.
What I really meant was -
You and I are very far apart in our perceptions of many things, and there are many times when I think it important to register my disagreement with you even though there isn’t time to pursue all the details.
I think Sowell is a total dork - I’m not trying to establish that here (not enough time) - just registering my opinion.
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#5 Sowell’s starting point here is that historical “intelligentsia” have been wrong at some times in the past. Who would disagree with that?
Does it then follow that academic or institutional expertise is net bad, or that Palin-esque soccer-mom populism provides a superior perspective from which to solve complex problems in, say, foreign policy or economics?
NO - it doesn’t follow!
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Spinoza,
Thanks for your non-snide elaboration. (Seriously.)
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As a moderate Republican, I must say that Sarah Palin is the most repulsive, grotesque reactionary to try to enter the national political scene that I have ever seen. Why members of my party are trying to prop this Eliza Knowlittle buffoon up is beyond the comprehension of scores of my dearest Republican friends. As long as we give in to the small lunatic extreme fringe, we will never be competitive in national politics. In the past, we were a party of intellect and issues; now the crazies on the right reject intelligence and try to exclude those who want to address the key issues of our nation in a thoughful manner. McCain picking this clueless woman who’s a national embarrassment revealed a level of desperation I thought I’d never see as a Republican. Tom Ridge would have lea us to victory as a running mate. Why, of all people, Palin? If we don’t start ignoring her and start working more seriously with Newt, Ron Paul and other respected leaders of our party, not only will we lose 2012 in a landslide, but 2016 will go to Hillary. Please, please…no more praise on Palin. It will set us farther and farther back.
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“I think Sowell is a total dork - I’m not trying to establish that here (not enough time) - just registering my opinion.”
Regardless of if he is a dork or not, doesnt change whether or not the facts he presents in #5 are true or not. Which was the point he was making, intellectuals of the age got it wrong and the facts say so.
Now if you wish to dispute the listed facts it would be the proper course, instead of simply insulting who presented them.
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re: David L’s definition of anti-intellectualism:
It’s about the use of sophistry to justify immoral policies.
No it isn’t - you’re in your own private Idaho here. Anti-intellectualism is about rejecting the complexity inherent in most issues of substance in favor of cartoonish false representations. Palin is utterly unschooled in key topics about which she pretended to speak as a future leader. To do this, she appealed to popular ignorant opinion. The GOP has increased its promotion of this behavior in order to wield power. That is truly cynical anti-intellectualism plain and simple, what Noonan calls a new “vulgarity” in politics.
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#24 Read my #21 - I don’t dispute the historical accounts - I just consider them irrelevant.
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“13 If you can’t see the paradox inherent in quoting an alleged conservative intellectual ranting against intellectualism, that’s your problem.”
And if you can’t see a difference between using one’s intellect and being an “intellectual”, that’s your problem. Category confusion is the preferred sophist sanctuary.
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Thorn,
Spinoza agrees that they got it wrong. The next question to answer is why they got it wrong. The intelligentsia always gets it wrong in one direction, i.e., the liberal direction–specifically, the repressive-big-government-ruled-by-a-small-cadre-of-intellectuals direction. Why is that?
What is it about the intelligentsia that, when they get it wrong, they always get it wrong in the same way? Is it because they desire to repress those who don’t think as well as them, or to wield power for the betterment of their inferiors, or what?
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25 Spinoza,
“you’re in your own private Idaho here”
Possibly, but that’s the extent to which my personal anti-intellectualism goes. I actually do like intellect, as long as it’s not being manipulated to justify murder or make lies acceptable.
“Palin is utterly unschooled in key topics about which she pretended to speak as a future leader. To do this, she appealed to popular ignorant opinion.”
A lot of people are saying this, but as I wrote above, I’m not convinced. There are some awfully dumb Democrats in Congress, and even Biden never came across as intellectually able to me. Which undermines this whole GOP-is-anti-intellectual thesis. However, I do think most people are dumb and that politics is the art of pandering. The question is whether the GOP is solely guilty of it. To the contrary, I think the victory of Obama represents the victory of a different kind of anti-intellectualism. Despite how “learned” Obama is, the people who voted for him did so for reasons having nothing to do with intelligence. Their minds were fogged, in fact, by the spectacle that Obama presented.
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RE Daivies Post #23
Yeah, Gov. Palin was just such a ‘repulsive grotesque reactionary’ and ‘buffon’ for standing her ground on the ‘intellectually complex’ issue of killing children, i.e. actually believing that delivering a full term healthy child and killing her was actually wrong (can you BELIEVE that????).
Now, the Democrat “intellectual’ candidate properly said that this intellectually complex issue was ‘above his paygrade’ and then goes and enables it to the hilt.
Oh why oh why can’t we have a Republican candidate (like Ridge), who would exhibit similar stunning intellectualism?
Instead of that horrible ol’ Sarah Palin?
Oh the terrible travails and tribulations of the ‘moderate Republican’, putting up with the ‘crazies on the Right’ who actually believe in right and wrong and that killing children is always wrong.
Tut-tut. It makes one shake ones head, it does. Or throw up. One of the two. Or both.
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In 23:
Palin ran on MCCAIN’s TICKET. His campaign, his policies. If she looked like an idiot to you, I challenge its because she merely reflected McCain’s ideals.
McCain is not a maverick. He is a compromiser. This is why he picked Palin and then didnt know how to use her. This is why he voted for the bailout. This is why his campaign utterly failed.
He did not differiniate himself from Obama or Bush.
But you are right, we do need to channel support to the leaders of the Republican party who are true conservatives and real leaders. However, I dont think Palin is unintelligent enough to be excluded. I dont think shed be ready for presidency in 2012, but its possible. Shed certainly make a good VP by that point.
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“As long as we give in to the small lunatic extreme fringe, we will never be competitive in national politics.”
Snort. As long as you’re talking about the lunatic media who did a hatchet job on Palin, then I’d agree with you. As it is, there’s no proof that Palin is an idiot.
Show me how Biden is so MUCH better than Palin, and then I’ll start to listen.
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Drill. I hear you…I’m with you. But for Pete’s sake, let’s win first. You, apparently are not hearing me. She’s useless in our party. We can’t win with her. It’s estimated 6 million Republicans voted against her. They’ll vote against her again in 2012. Do you want to lose again in 2012 ? I’m totally pro life, but I’ll never vote for an idiot just because she’s pro life. Again, do you want to win ? If we win, then we can elect the judges who will overturn Roe V Wade. In the meantime, that embarrassment who’s travelling the country is making our party leaders cringe.
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David L.
I’d also make a point in regards to Palin that it seems we want to confuse being a good politician with being intelligent.
Palin is a rookie politician. However, that doesnt mean she lacks intelligence. There are alot of “good politicians” who I would say lack intelligence.
So we continue to vote for politicians rather than say ordinary people with intelligence.
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“In the meantime, that embarrassment who’s travelling the country is making our party leaders cringe.”
Except most of the current party leaders arent the conservatives you claim to want. They are the over spending, socialism leaning left bunch and thats is why they cringe at Palin, because shes not.
Let them cringe, and lets vote each and every one of those morons out of office so the Republican party can get back to true conservative values
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Thorn, Newt will eventually lead us out of the cellar. And you can rest assured…he won’t touch Palin with a ten foot pole. I love listening to Newt. He has vision and he articulates the points for all the people. He’s not a moron Thorn. This is a nation in deep trouble. I wish we’d pay more attention to the idea’s of Ron Paul, and of course Gingrich…but not Hannity and Rush. They sound like maniacs lately. Don’t you know why the mainstream media is following Caribou Barbie around the country? They want to embarrass her more and more. She can’t even answer the soft ball questions of Lauer and King. They want to destroy her and her giant ego doesn’t even allow her to catch on.
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Sarah Palin has all the right people (on the left and the right) shivering in their “intellectual” rubber boots.
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Great post at #30.
Folks, don’t let the intellectuals define intelligence!
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The media want us to think that Sarah Palin is less intelligent than other public figures. They even make up stories from anonymous sources to blow that smoke. Intelligent people will not fall for this arrogant media pretense, nor for the arrogant elitism from self-described intellectuals.
Neither am I claiming that Palin is a genius. But she is smart enough to make a lot of fancy-minded elitists and desperate with fear.
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Do you guys really think that Mitt or Rudy would have Palin in their administrations in any capacity? We have a country to lead, not a PTA. Hey guys, 66 million Americans slammed the door on Palin on Nov. 4th. I voted for McCain because of McCain and in spite of the nitwit running mate. Do you think Palin is going to change their minds over the next four years ? Others in our party have a chance…she does not. Get over it. Let’s try to figure out how to gain support for a true Republican…a Reagan type…a winner. If you guys keep listening to Hannity and Rush and hope for a miracle, then we won’t stand a chance until 2024, after Hillary’s second term. McCain had it wrapped up because he had the Hillary women. After they heard Sarah they left him.
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#27 And if you can’t see a difference between using one’s intellect and being an “intellectual”, that’s your problem.”
Maybe we’re not all using the same definition of “intellectual.”
Merriam-Webster defines an intellectual as “an intellectual person” (don’t they know you’re not supposed to use the word in its own definition?). And they define “intellectual” (the adjective) as:
1 a: of or relating to the intellect or its use b: developed or chiefly guided by the intellect rather than by emotion or experience : rational c: requiring use of the intellect
2 a: given to study, reflection, and speculation b: engaged in activity requiring the creative use of the intellect
None of those definitions even hint at sophistry, or an elite that looks down on their “inferiors.”
I know people who consider me an intellectual, which surprises me sometimes as I’m not aware of coming across that way. (When I was younger I enjoyed showing off my intellectual abilities, but as an adult I learned that character and common sense counted for more in everyday life, and now I tend to avoid bringing up what I know unless it is clearly relevant to the discussion at hand.) I’m pretty sure that the people who say that consider it a compliment.
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Daivie,
You shouldn’t have drunk that kool-aid that the media has been pouring. The media does, indeed, want you to think that Palin is an idiot. Why are you falling for it?
They used to say that about Quayle too. The media are the idiots pal.
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MIM - 42
LOL, how right you are -
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I don’t need media people to tell me Palin’s an idiot. All I have to do is replay her speeches. Who in their right mind would try to sell Joe the Plumber to the American people in the last two weeks of a desperate campaign? Look where it got her.
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Daivie,
66 million slammed the door on McCain and his campaign. That McCain who beat out Romney and Rudy in the primaries. Why do you think they would have done so much better? They wouldnt nor will they in 4 years. They couldnt even beat McLame.
What Palin will do over the next 4? Who knows? She has the opportunity though to build her own platform, one that is not hampered by McCain’s compromising moderation. She has the opportunity to finish strong as a governor in the least and gain more and more experience.
Palin was made to look like an idiot by the media and by her own campaign, both in response to her immediate energizing of the base. It scared the Mccain camp to hear Obama vs Palin, and now they wanna blame her for losing the presidency?? Bunch of pansies. I’m glad many in that campaign have stood up for her by name. You know, the ones that actually worked with her.
The only way you beat Obama in 2012, is if you pick a strong conservative canadite that contrasts starkly to Obama. PERIOD. Palin fits that mold. (Rudy certainly doesnt) I’m not saying shell be the best pick in 2012 just saying she will remain a possibility. That and she isnt dumb. She now has major campaigning experience as well and would be an asset to almost anyone running.
The way the Republicans return stronger than ever is not by giving in to moderation. Its not by becoming Democrats. Thats why they have lost the last 4 to 8 years. They didnt act like Republicans. They acted like Democrats.
As you saw someone like Obama rise up, youll see new leaders in the Republican camp rise up that call Republicans back to the basics of fiscal conservatism, family values, etc.
Plus youll see Dems making the same foolish mistakes the Reps have done, and the cycle will flip back again. Hopefully by that 4 years time we will have elected a vast majority of Republican leaders who will actually hold to Republican conservatism.
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“Who in their right mind would try to sell Joe the Plumber to the American people in the last two weeks of a desperate campaign? Look where it got her.”
McCain’s decision. They write her speeches. Once again. McCain was and is the idiot here.
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Hey folks, a lot can happen in four years. Remember, Hilary was considered unbeatable, (maybe not four years ago . . .more like two) but she was the heir apparent. We know the rest of the story.
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Thorn…I must say…you sound wise and on target to me. You have me thinking now. Thanks for the thoughtful response. I suppose she can delve into things she should know more about and make us have more confidence in her as time goes by. You make all the right arguments. Thanks again. I just think we can win in 2012 and want us all to be very careful about who we send out there and what must be said and done to win. I know Ridge is pro choice, but it would have gotten us PA and maybe a victory and we would have been 4 years ahead of the game in securing the Supreme Court.
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I personally believe that Gov. Palin’s image would significantly improve across the board if she endeavored to begin more sentences with the perpendicular personal pronoun and not speak in run on sentences. Just my own observation, . . . a little constructive criticism there. My wife and I support her completely . . . voted for McCain enthusiastically once she was on the ticket.
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Dont give me too much credit Daivie my head will swell
Thanks for your compliments.
Republicans can definately win in 2012. It wont take compromising to do it either.
Four years will yield plenty of Democratic incompetent policies I’m sure.
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Daivie - Do you have more evidence that Ridge would have pulled in Pennsylvania for McCain? John Edwards didn’t bring in his home state of North Carolina in 2004 for the Democrats, and four years before that, Presidential candidate Al Gore couldn’t win his home state of Tennessee. So, winning the home state is far from certain these days.
I agree that Palin could not win the Presidency at the moment, but Obama could not have won the Presidency in 2004 either. I think your statement, “I suppose she can delve into things she should know more about and make us have more confidence in her as time goes by,” is correct. Joe Hilley wrote a book on her called Sarah Palin: A New Kind of Leader, which I read. I got the impression that she is a hard worker and quick learner.
I think that it’s foolish to judge her intelligence based on a couple of interviews early in the campaign, when she was still getting the feel for national politics-and before she started bucking her inept handlers. I also think that the way she was used (or rather mis-used) in the campaign is a poor basis for deciding that she’s a radical extremist and partisan, especially when her gubernatorial record contradicts that. As governor, she certainly did not take an ideological hard line. Sure she’s conservative, but she worked with both sides and wasn’t a Karl Rove-type divider.
Here is a column by Republican strategist Andrea Tantaros, written just before the election. She has thoughts about Palin, the campaign, and the GOP’s future. Excerpts:
Our identity is lost. When it comes to fresh ideas, we’re bankrupt. Our strategies are stale, our talking points robotic and regurgitated, and our direction unclear. We’ve forgotten how to communicate with the American people. Our message is adrift and our messenger-in-chief, George W. Bush, is bloody and badly bruised.
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The future of the Republican Party depends on an Obama victory. There, I’ve said it. I waited this entire cycle to express my concern and I’m glad I did because now, more than ever, I believe my hypothesis to be true. Call it tough love, call it treason; I call it the truth.
The campaign of John McCain has only solidified my argument. From day one it has struggled to find a clear and rationally persuasive theme. It has operated using an outdated playbook that focuses on personal associations (bafflingly, even in the throes of an economic meltdown). These moves worked in 2004, but to take one’s eyes of the ball—the economy—for one moment in this election was his gravest error.
Sadly, the campaign has operated with gimmicky stunts and spoken with a snarky tone and the most stomach-churning of sarcasm. What did we expect? McCain’s advisors are Bush’s old guards. They’re tired, divorced from reality, and devoid of creativity. They failed to capitalize on McCain’s strengths and grossly mismanaged Palin.
I find it all too perfect that it took a plumber to unclog the McCain machine’s message constipation. Joe may have helped in the short term, but the need for major renovations remains.
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The hybrid, hapless Bush/McCain operation isn’t the only case for reform. Congressional Republicans are equally as guilty for our demise. To turn the ship around, Congress should be our starting point. All bridges to nowhere, support for bloated spending bills, entitlement expansion and unethical practices must be replaced with fiscal responsibility, a zero-tolerance policy on corruption and a one-strike-and-you’re-out mantra. Yes, Senators Stevens, Craig and Vitter: I’m talking to you.
She said exactly what I’ve been thinking.
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Paul Begala said it best:
40% of Republicans want Sarah to be a party leader.
…and 100% of Democrats.
The collapse of Republican support from self-described moderates over the last two election cycles has been very well documented. McCain got almost 2 million MORE votes from white evangelical Christians than did Bush. And he got CREAMED, as independents and moderate Republicans deserted in droves.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/11/13/AR2008111303347.html
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Here is a a blog post on Palin. The blog links to a a href=”http://www.newsweek.com/id/42534/”>Newsweek article on Palin from 2007.
As the blog says, if we want to know about someone, we should read about them before they were “someone.”
From Newsweek:
Although she has been in office less than a year, Palin, too, earns high marks from lawmakers on the other side of the aisle. During a debate earlier this year over a natural-gas bill, State Senate Minority Leader Beth Kerttula was astounded when she and another Democrat went to see the new governor to lay out their objections. “Not only did we get right in to see her,” says Kerttula, “but she asked us back twice—we saw her three times in 10 hours, until we came up with a solution.”
The article also mentions that Palin fought corruption, took on Big Oil, and cancelled the Bridge to Nowhere.
Back to the blog: But once she was nominated for Vice President, suddenly there is no mention of big oil, she gets no credit on the Bridge, makes politics “personal” and Democrats have nothing nice to say.
Is Newsweek going to print a retraction for such “gross errors” in that article? How can the media defend their sudden change in their depiction of Palin’s record?
Which Palin are we to believe was Governor? For me, I trust the picture that was painted back when no one had an agenda.
So do I!
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Oops, that link to Newsweek went wrong. Here it is again.
Newsweek
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Hate to break up the circular firing squad here, but Mark Lilla was right. Sarah Palin was jess folks. What always irked me about this has been the sheer incongruity of at once asking that schools teach the classics and hold students to higher standards, and then we have a candidate to whom such learning or such demands of excellence seem largely missing. And hate to bring up scripture, but doesn’t Paul also urge us to press on for the more excellent things? So the Palin choice always struck me as a settling for second best, an easy tactical choice perhaps, but one that did not treat seriously the challenges before our nation.
But enough of that, a better question is to ask why Gov. Bobby Jindal had the good sense not to run as veep. Off hand that puts him pretty high in political intelligence. Also, you may want to check his resume — he carries some pretty heavy intellectual firepower.
And what do you all say when Gov. Pawlenty points that in fact, you do need to be competitive in a variety of settings, not simply on your home turf.
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Arcadia, yes, conservatives are blaming moderates and moderates are blaming conservatives.
And you Democrats are watching happily and hoping the GOP falls apart. Paul Begala is a Democrat. I doubt conservatives need to take anything he says seriously.
This circular firing-squad thing needs to stop. On the one hand, the GOP has to be broad enough to accept some moderates. In any election, 40% will vote Democrat, 40% Republican and the middle 20% will be up for grabs. So driving the moderates out isn’t the answer. Elections are won through communication, not excommunication.
But Republicans cannot simply drop social conservative positions from its platform. If the Republican party ceases to be pro-life, then pro-lifers will cease to be Republican. A conservative third party will form, and the effect will be to keep Democrats in power for a long time. Besides, a large portion of the electorate is conservative on social issues, as seen in (1)the continued passage of traditional marriage amendments and (2)polls showing that roughly 45% of Americans identify as “pro-life.” So it’s not like 75% of the nation is turned off by conservative social positions. But the problem is that most voters care about other issues, like the economy, education, health care, and the war in Iraq. So conservatives need to provide attractive ideas in those areas, and just as importantly, do a good job explaining and communicating those ideas. That means (1)better talking points, (2) getting beyond shallow talking points, and giving good explanation of the details, and (3)not letting Democrats control how the discussion is framed.
About the article itself, I wasn’t too impressed. Someone in the comments section pretty much summed up my feelings:
I deeply appreciate all the valuable comments made by the various readers here - far more insightful and educational than the opinion piece itself, which made me think I’d navigated to the wrong site and had stumbled upon some Palin-hating blog.
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Please do make Palin your leader and lock in the social issues. You will have created the regional Republican party and be in the minority for some years to come. So please. Stay on the track you are on.
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I agree, Harris. For the first time in my life I voted for a Democrat for President. The reason: Sarah Palin.
Conservatism rose to prominence because of its intellectual firepower. Even if the Left would never acknowledge the value of conservatism’s intellectual contributions, no one could doubt that Buckley, Moynihan, Kirkpatrick, Himmelfarb, et al. posed a challenge to the liberal statism that had lazily prevailed from the 1930s to the 1980s. (By the way, it is this liberal statism Sowell challenges, DavidL. Obama’s politics bears few similarities to it. Your Sowell quotes are thus inapposite.)
But how have we gone from Buckley to Palin? Why have we turned our backs on our own intellectuals to support a woman whose degree of stupidity is mind-boggling? She couldn’t even name the three signatories to NAFTA! She thought that Africa was a country!
Palin, more than anyone else, symbolizes the ideological bankruptcy of modern conservatism. She knows how to articulate the “talking points” but has no clue what they mean. And to think, she was almost a heartbeat away from the Presidency. I agree that her pro-life stand is admirable. But she had nothing else going for her.
Conservatism needs new ideas. Reagonomics was right for the economy in 1980; it does little to address the challenges we face today. In the 1980s, we were a manufacturing-based economy with small debts, where most assets were tied to tangible goods. Today, we’re a service/info-based economy with soaring debts, where most assets are tied to intangible forms of property (e.g., patents, trademarks, derivatized securities, etc.). Moreover, we have to address social problems in a manner that moves beyond the stupid populist slogans that adorn the bumpers of evangelicals’ minivans.
Conservatism must be more than nostalgia for some lost Americana that once existed somewhere in rural Oklahoma (perhaps). It once was much more than that. And it rose to power because we inspired common folk to rely on a vision for a better future. But evangelicals abandoned that project, and now settle for a politics of nostalgic resentment.
I agree with Joel Mark that Palin had many of the right enemies. But that does nothing to erase the fact that she was dumb and arrogant, and wore her stupidity as a badge of honor. No one can claim to believe in objective truth without recognizing the incalculable intellectual deficiencies of Sarah Palin. Sure, she offended liberals. But she should be an offense to anyone who believes that personal and intellectual excellence still matters.
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CoyoteBlue: Again, most voters care more about other issues, so Republicans need to retool their ideas and message on other issues. They can’t run solely on social issues and win; but neither can they win if they say, Screw social conservatives; we’ll go socially liberal. In that case, they’ll lose the base. And, like I said, I think moderates still need to have a seat at the table.
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The difficulty as I see it Matt, is that the pragmatist party — the one you’re arguing for — is being pushed aside. David Brooks has pretty much given up on the current wave of the GOP, Ross Douthat would like to help, and even Peggy Noonan, but as each has written, the current mindset does not appear to have room for them. And then there are the Christine Whitmans, and Carly Fiorinas — the women who are wrong on life issues but very much in the corner on a host of other traditional GOP talking points.
To make the tent bigger, the path must be away from the push to purity or more-conservative-than-thou, a path that many seem intent upon pursuing. As a Dem, I’m with Coyote Blue: please please please opt for the purity side of life. As a citizen, I would encourage you to hit the brakes before you go off the road like that.
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Umm…I can’t believe anyone is so gullible as to believe those smears about Palin.
Obviously she was inexperienced. But being a rookie politician gives no one the right to call her unintelligent. And to base your estimation of her “personal and intellectual excellence” on just two months of campaigning, under the handlers of an inept campaign, when she was supposed to basically stay “on message”, is just ridiculous.
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Does anyone here see the sock puppet? Their savage attacks on Palin has given them away….
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Matt,
Our differences probably can be summed up in our answers to one question, which is indirectly posed by Lilla: Do elites have a place in democratic society?
I affirm that we need elites. At least we need elites who have risen to prominence because of their achievements and experience. I place little value in folk wisdom, and generally see it as a threat to social stability.
I fear that social conservatism has degenerated into a movement that rejects established institutions and seeks to change society through mob rule. Thus, they embrace Palin. They embrace her in part because she is a social conservative. But they also embrace her because she embodies their populist rage they feel for elites and the for institutions that credential them. In that sense, social conservatives pose the threat to social stability that any such movement presents. See Schumpeter and Pareto.
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Harris, thanks for mentioning Jindal’s resume. I’ll check it out.
I agree with Pawlenty’s statement. I suggest this doesn’t necessarily exclude Palin. Sure she is inexperienced on national issues, but the nature of experience is that you gain it with time. She has a few years to learn more. While I’m not necessarily saying she’ll be the best candidate, I suggest we wait and see rather than write her off.
What do you mean when you say the pragmatist party is being pushed aside? Now, obviously I’ve seen plenty of people saying the GOP needs to “get more conservative”, “kick RINOS out”, etc. But that’s just words, and I don’t know what will come of it. We just finished an election in which the Republican presidential nominee was one of those pragmatists.
I suggest that part of the “difficulty” you speak of can be called “too much Rush Limbaugh.” (Sorry to his fans here, but I think he’s a buffoon).
It also seems sometimes like those pragmatists and moderates are trying to do the same thing to social conservatives (push them out).
If Christine Whitman is so concerned about being included, why didn’t she run for Senate this year? Frank Lautenberg is old and liberal. Surely she’d have been a better candidate than whoever the GOP actually nominated.
In the spirit of the “big tent”: I’ve seen speculation that Carly Fiorina might run for California governor in 2010. That would be great.
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Sorry, looking back at my post #64, I see that I tend to ramble sometimes.
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By “pushed aside” I mean only that the wing that determines platform and candidates will likely be that of the Movement Conservatives, the children of Ronald Reagan, as opposed to their more moderate kin. You could read a lot of these more pragmatic types in the post-election conversation at Slate.
This column by Ross Douthat covers much of the ground. What he helpfully points out is that Movement partisans of left or right tend to the same behavior in wake of defeat: their initial reaction is to try it again only more so. Sort of like the liberals coming up with Mondale in ‘84. The fate of the Tory party in the UK provides another example. It may take a cycle or two to really hit bottom.
And as I said, as a Democrat? Well, I’m ok with that :-).
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This article explains why we should reject the notion of a governing elite.
American political thought since its earliest days has been ambiguous or conflicted about the existence and character of a “natural aristocracy” of governing talent…
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Part of what bothers the establishment about Palin is her seeming insouciance toward public office. Her success with voters, and in national office, would be n affront and a reproach to establishment self-importance. Anyone who affects making it look easy surely lacks gravitas and must not grasp the complexity or depth of modern political problems. Partly this is the self-justification for establishment institutions and attitudes, but partly it represents the substantive view that the size and complexity of modern government require a level of expertise beyond the reach of ordinary citizens.
Harry Truman was the only president of the 20th century who didn’t graduate from college. He turned out pretty well. And Ronald Reagan was another whose experience and background (Eureka College?) were mocked.
Less than two months after abruptly taking over from FDR with no preparation, Truman wrote his wife Bess describing his quick progress in taking the reins:
It won’t be long before I can sit back and study the whole picture and tell ‘em what is to be done in each department. When things come to that stage there’ll be no more to this job than there was to running Jackson County and not any more worry.
In retrospect it is clear that Truman “got it.” He didn’t need any more “experience” to master the job. “Well I’m facing another tall day as usual,” he ended that letter to Bess; “But I like ‘em that way.”
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For Truman and Reagan the key ingredient to successful statecraft was simplicity. “I say there are simple answers to many of our problems–simple but hard,” Reagan liked to say; “It’s the complicated answer that’s easy, because it avoids facing the hard moral issues.” Churchill wrote that he immediately liked Truman when they met for the first time in Berlin in 1945 because he could see that Truman possessed the “obvious power of decision.” We can see already from Palin’s record–unseating a governor of her own party, delivering a long-blocked pipeline deal–that she shares this trait; another six years in the governor’s office isn’t likely to tell us anything we can’t already discern if we don’t let status bias get in the way.
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One of the comments in response to Lilla’s article is so good that I just have to post it here.
As a pro-Palin ‘intellectual’, I would have to seriously disagree. ‘Intellectualism’ on both the left and the right has become an end in itself, an arrogant competition in who can spin the most complex webs. The end result of that is already visible in the market; look up what the Nobel Prize winners of Long Term Capital Management wrought a decade ago, or the the current disaster of ot he GSE’s aided and abetted in large part by Harvard Law grads Frank and Dodd. Go through the list of failed investment banks; most were led by people with advanced degrees in that softest of sciences, economics, while advanced degrees in mathematical sciences were a prerequisite for the geniuses that created toxic debt instruments.
Intellectualism to be useful needs to be grounded in reality - that somewhat forgotten notion of common sense. This is especially true in any field that has to do directly with assessing risk, because risk itself is not quantifiable, it is subjective. The Wall Street brain trust forgot that; people like Palin, or Joe the Plumber, have to live with it every day. Unlike the professorial class, there’s no job tenure for for your average person. Palin was able to articulate it very well, but unfortunately that message - through a rather dark MSM filter - was seen as ignorant, provincial, demogogic.
But just how true is caricature? I would suggest, not very, and in fact I would suggest that those who subscribe to that belief ask themselves on just what real evidence they do so. There’s very little to support their claims; if you sit down and trace the most egregious complaints about her -particularly with respect to abortion, or drugs, or education, to her actual political stands, and her accomplishments in office and in her family, you’ll find more often than not that what the public is being shown is what the media has chosen to project upon her. This is just bad partisan reporting, and in itself is not unusual. Reporters are not paid to think. Her actions in office indicate a person that - while strongly committed to her own view - are both open and tolerant to others, and flexible enough to generate real, political consensus. The failure of the self-annointed intelligensia to use that fundamental tool - doubt - supported by independent research to clarify issues for themselves and others stands in far greater condemnation of academia than of those they oppose.
It’s a very dangerous precedent for the US, where, on the whole, history has been more balanced. There have been slips (like Kennedy’s ‘Best and Brightest’, who brought the US into Vietnam, or FDR’s economic revolution, that kept unemployment well above 10% until the advent of WWII). But on the whole, the US professoriat stayed away from the hard partisanship one found, say, in 1931 Germany, in which academics led suport for National Socialism by a two-to-one margin relative to the working classes. It should be worrisome to anybody that they seem to be slipping back into that mode now, particularly with regards to the manner in which they are doing so.
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Matt,
I never said that I favor rule by any kind of elites. In a democracy, one can become an elite in a variety of ways that do not necessarily depend on having degrees from fancy universities.
Truman and Reagan both had gained considerable experience, and both recognized that complex problems require creative and complex solutions. Neither were born elites, but they had risen to that level before becoming President. Neither man believed that ignorance was a badge of honor, and they both worked tirelessly to cure deficiencies that they inherited from their lowly upbringings.
On the contrary, Palin prided herself on her ignorance, and viewed stupidity as a basis for claiming some kind of authenticity that educated folk allegedly lacked. Besides, we’re not talking about someone who had merely failed to brush up on the finer points of antitrust or trade policy. She thought that Africa was a country!!!! She could not recite the signatories to NAFTA!!!! Sixth-graders know these kinds of things. Sarah Palin did not.
The pro-Palin puff piece you cite leaves out a substantial number of Truman’s accomplishments. He was active in Missouri and Kansas City politics for nearly 20 years, including eight years as head of the Missouri WPA. He was then a two-term US Senator. During the second term, he headed the Truman Commission. Truman had a thirty-year record of accomplished public service before he ever stepped into the White House. In contrast, Palin has spent 18 months as governor of the nation’s least populous state, wherein her singular achievement involves delivering a pipeline deal.
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Matt,
You need to brush up on your knowledge of finance and debt securitization. Without “elites” hedging mortgage risks with securitized debt instruments, the mortgage market would have collapsed much earlier.
Fan/Fred were the problem. Few of these banks would have extended such risky mortgages if the government had not required them to do it and offered to back these risky mortgages via Fannie and Freddie. The “toxic” securities resulted from banks’ efforts to hedge the risk of the risky mortgages that the government forced them to make.
And why did the federal government force banks to make risky loans? Hmmm…probably because Palin-loving populists believed that they were entitled to buy homes with 3% down. Trust me, if it were up to “elites,” there would never have been a mortgage crisis. You’d all be renting.
Of course, in my neighborhood, most of the elites are renting, as a 2BR condo costs about 700k.
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I’m no Palin fan, but she doesn’t believe Africa is a country.
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But just how true is caricature? I would suggest, not very, and in fact I would suggest that those who subscribe to that belief ask themselves on just what real evidence they do so. There’s very little to support their claims; if you sit down and trace the most egregious complaints about her -particularly with respect to abortion, or drugs, or education, to her actual political stands, and her accomplishments in office and in her family, you’ll find more often than not that what the public is being shown is what the media has chosen to project upon her. This is just bad partisan reporting…
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“She thought that Africa was a country!!!! She could not recite the signatories to NAFTA!!!! Sixth-graders know these kinds of things. Sarah Palin did not.”
That’s Malarkey. You are only seeing what the media chose to report. The GOP buffoon who only partly overheard a conversation in which Africa came up made it look like she didn’t know it was a continent.
Heck, I can’t tell you who the signatories for NAFTA either. I remember the hullabaloo over it, but I couldn’t say for sure who signed the agreement. My guess would be all the countries in North America Canada, US, and Mexico. AFter that?
I echo what Matt Y. wrote above. You have fallen for bad partisan reporting.
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And if you think Palin is an idiot because you listened the the media caricature, then you’re not even as smart as she is….
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EVAN asked (#58), “But how have we gone from Buckley to Palin?”
This is a nonsensical question. We have not “gone from Buckley to Palin.” Those are just two human beings who have served in their own ways at different times in the public arena with some influence (Buckley having much more influence to date).
EVAN asks, “Why have we turned our backs on our own intellectuals to support a woman whose degree of stupidity is mind-boggling?”
EVAN’s question exhibits a degree of unkindness and disrespect that is mind-boggling. And I see no ‘back-turning’ to speak of. I just saw a moderate Republican candidate try to win back some conservative support with a VP pick. Nothing new or unusual or back-turning there.
I think EVAN is being mindless to believe stories about what Palin knows (or not) that the media made up and contrived with anonymous sources. Think, Evan, please.
Sarah Palin had a lot more executive experience than Obama. She has a lot more ethical principle regarding human life too (than Obama) and she lives by her moral convictions in admirable ways. Obama just thinks a baby is a “punishment.”
Speaking of Buckley, he preferred to be governed by the first few hundred names in the Boston phone book than by the elites and intellectuals given to us by our Harvards and Yales and political power structures.
I think EVAN is an Obamunist.
I think Sarah Palin is a fine Republican and we need her kind as much as we need the Buckleys. And we need them both.
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Here are the two most ludicrous, dishonest statements ever made to an audience ( not in order )
From the Manchurian Candidate…1962…”Raymond Shaw is the bravest, kindest, warmest most wonderful human being I’ve ever known in my life.”
From the lunatic fringe…2008…”Sarah Palin is the most popular governor in America and has twice the experience of Obama and Biden combined.”
Following that desperate logic, the kids that sell lemonade and shine shoes have more executive experience than John McCain. The Republican governors in Miami last week saw Sarah first hand and are going public ( finally ) with their disgust about her. After she signs her $ 7 million book deal and gets a half hour talk show on Fixed Noise, she will be out of politics forever, and that’s too bad for the democrats who will then have to compete with talent at the level of Newt. And as far as Rudy is concerned for those interested, there is no place in heaven for that pompous little Napolean who laughed at community service and can’t even earn the love of his son. He cheated on his first wife and has the nerve to talk morals in public.
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Conservatism is a hard sell, just like saving money and dieting. It is so much easier for the mob to vote themselves gifts from the treasury rather than to act responsibly. So the candidate who has the most giveaways will win.
Conservatives are guilty of this too. We vote for whomever gives us the biggest tax breaks. At the end, McCain was promising all sorts of “free” stuff that made him look ridiculous. Even Obama, who is giving away the store, appealed to the middle by promising tax breaks, though it was a sham. This ploy to buy votes will be paid for by higher taxes.
What conservatives need is a candidate who can convince the public that being fiscally and ethically responsible is a good thing and then actually carry it out. But that is a very, very hard message to get across. No one likes belt tightening and the whining and complaining would become a deafening roar.
I doubt that Americans moving forward, many of whom are in the lower 50th percentile who pay no taxes, will ever embrace a real conservative message again until America is in economic ruins. Republicans will be elected again, but not true conservatives. America has become a nation of Walmart shoppers who want deals, not greatness.
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What conservatives need is a candidate who can convince the public that being fiscally and ethically responsible is a good thing and then actually carry it out.
don’t look for a candidate in the Republican party.
America has become a nation of Walmart shoppers who want deals, not greatness.
best line I’ve heard from you.
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Don’t look for a candidate in the Republican party.
I know. I hear ya!
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Actually, I should have said that there are conservatives in the Republican party. However, not one of them will ever get elected due to our election process and voter sentiment.
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