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		<title>By: Xion</title>
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		<dc:creator>Xion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 05:12:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, I should have said that there are conservatives in the Republican party.  However, not one of them will ever get elected due to our election process and voter sentiment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, I should have said that there are conservatives in the Republican party.  However, not one of them will ever get elected due to our election process and voter sentiment.
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		<title>By: Xion</title>
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		<dc:creator>Xion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 05:06:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Don’t look for a candidate in the Republican party.&lt;/i&gt;

I know.  I hear ya!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Don’t look for a candidate in the Republican party.</i></p>
<p>I know.  I hear ya!
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		<title>By: hrw</title>
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		<dc:creator>hrw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 22:55:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;What conservatives need is a candidate who can convince the public that being fiscally and ethically responsible is a good thing and then actually carry it out.&lt;/i&gt;

don&#039;t look for a candidate in the Republican party.

&lt;i&gt;America has become a nation of Walmart shoppers who want deals, not greatness. &lt;/i&gt;

best line I&#039;ve heard from you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>What conservatives need is a candidate who can convince the public that being fiscally and ethically responsible is a good thing and then actually carry it out.</i></p>
<p>don&#8217;t look for a candidate in the Republican party.</p>
<p><i>America has become a nation of Walmart shoppers who want deals, not greatness. </i></p>
<p>best line I&#8217;ve heard from you.
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		<title>By: Xion</title>
		<link>http://online.worldmag.com/2008/11/14/the-ascent-and-then-descent-of-intellectual-conservatism/comment-page-2/#comment-370892</link>
		<dc:creator>Xion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 18:50:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Conservatism is a hard sell, just like saving money and dieting.  It is so much easier for the mob to vote themselves gifts from the treasury rather than to act responsibly.  So the candidate who has the most giveaways will win.

Conservatives are guilty of this too.  We vote for whomever gives us the biggest tax breaks.  At the end, McCain was promising all sorts of &quot;free&quot; stuff that made him look ridiculous.  Even Obama, who is giving away the store, appealed to the middle by promising tax breaks, though it was a sham.  This ploy to buy votes will be paid for by higher taxes.  

What conservatives need is a candidate who can convince the public that being fiscally and ethically responsible is a good thing and then actually carry it out.  But that is a very, very hard message to get across.  No one likes belt tightening and the whining and complaining would become a deafening roar.

I doubt that Americans moving forward, many of whom are in the lower 50th percentile who pay no taxes, will ever embrace a real conservative message again until America is in economic ruins.  Republicans will be elected again, but not true conservatives.  America has become a nation of Walmart shoppers who want deals, not greatness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Conservatism is a hard sell, just like saving money and dieting.  It is so much easier for the mob to vote themselves gifts from the treasury rather than to act responsibly.  So the candidate who has the most giveaways will win.</p>
<p>Conservatives are guilty of this too.  We vote for whomever gives us the biggest tax breaks.  At the end, McCain was promising all sorts of &#8220;free&#8221; stuff that made him look ridiculous.  Even Obama, who is giving away the store, appealed to the middle by promising tax breaks, though it was a sham.  This ploy to buy votes will be paid for by higher taxes.  </p>
<p>What conservatives need is a candidate who can convince the public that being fiscally and ethically responsible is a good thing and then actually carry it out.  But that is a very, very hard message to get across.  No one likes belt tightening and the whining and complaining would become a deafening roar.</p>
<p>I doubt that Americans moving forward, many of whom are in the lower 50th percentile who pay no taxes, will ever embrace a real conservative message again until America is in economic ruins.  Republicans will be elected again, but not true conservatives.  America has become a nation of Walmart shoppers who want deals, not greatness.
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		<title>By: Daivie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daivie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 13:26:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here are the two most ludicrous, dishonest statements ever made to an audience ( not in order )

From the Manchurian Candidate...1962...&quot;Raymond Shaw is the bravest, kindest, warmest most wonderful human being I&#039;ve ever known in my life.&quot;

From the lunatic fringe...2008...&quot;Sarah Palin is the most popular governor in America and has twice the experience of Obama and Biden combined.&quot;

Following that desperate logic, the kids that sell lemonade and shine shoes have more executive experience than John McCain. The Republican governors in Miami last week saw Sarah first hand and are going public ( finally ) with their disgust about her. After she signs her $ 7 million book deal and gets a half hour talk show on Fixed Noise, she will be out of politics forever, and that&#039;s too bad for the democrats who will then have to compete with talent at the level of Newt. And as far as Rudy is concerned for those interested, there is no place in heaven for that pompous little Napolean who laughed at community service and can&#039;t even earn the love of his son. He cheated on his first wife and has the nerve to talk morals in public.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here are the two most ludicrous, dishonest statements ever made to an audience ( not in order )</p>
<p>From the Manchurian Candidate&#8230;1962&#8230;&#8221;Raymond Shaw is the bravest, kindest, warmest most wonderful human being I&#8217;ve ever known in my life.&#8221;</p>
<p>From the lunatic fringe&#8230;2008&#8230;&#8221;Sarah Palin is the most popular governor in America and has twice the experience of Obama and Biden combined.&#8221;</p>
<p>Following that desperate logic, the kids that sell lemonade and shine shoes have more executive experience than John McCain. The Republican governors in Miami last week saw Sarah first hand and are going public ( finally ) with their disgust about her. After she signs her $ 7 million book deal and gets a half hour talk show on Fixed Noise, she will be out of politics forever, and that&#8217;s too bad for the democrats who will then have to compete with talent at the level of Newt. And as far as Rudy is concerned for those interested, there is no place in heaven for that pompous little Napolean who laughed at community service and can&#8217;t even earn the love of his son. He cheated on his first wife and has the nerve to talk morals in public.
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		<title>By: Joel Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joel Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 04:40:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>EVAN asked (#58), &lt;i&gt;&quot;But how have we gone from Buckley to Palin?&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

This is a nonsensical question.  We have not &lt;i&gt;&quot;gone from Buckley to Palin.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;  Those are just two human beings who have served in their own ways at different times in the public arena with some influence (Buckley having much more influence to date). 

EVAN asks, &lt;i&gt;&quot;Why have we turned our backs on our own intellectuals to support a woman whose degree of stupidity is mind-boggling?&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

EVAN&#039;s question exhibits a degree of unkindness and disrespect that is mind-boggling.  And I see no &#039;back-turning&#039; to speak of.  I just saw a moderate Republican candidate try to win back some conservative support with a VP pick.  Nothing new or unusual or back-turning there.  

I think EVAN is being mindless to believe stories about what Palin knows (or not) that the media made up and contrived with anonymous sources.  Think, Evan, please.  

Sarah Palin had a lot more executive experience than Obama.  She has a lot more ethical principle regarding human life too (than Obama) and she lives by her moral convictions in admirable ways.  Obama just thinks a baby is a &quot;punishment.&quot;  

Speaking of Buckley, he preferred to be governed by the first few hundred names in the Boston phone book than by the elites and intellectuals given to us by our Harvards and Yales and political power structures.  
 
I think EVAN is an Obamunist.  

I think Sarah Palin is a fine Republican and we need her kind as much as we need the Buckleys.  And we need them both.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EVAN asked (#58), <i>&#8220;But how have we gone from Buckley to Palin?&#8221;</i></p>
<p>This is a nonsensical question.  We have not <i>&#8220;gone from Buckley to Palin.&#8221;</i>  Those are just two human beings who have served in their own ways at different times in the public arena with some influence (Buckley having much more influence to date). </p>
<p>EVAN asks, <i>&#8220;Why have we turned our backs on our own intellectuals to support a woman whose degree of stupidity is mind-boggling?&#8221;</i></p>
<p>EVAN&#8217;s question exhibits a degree of unkindness and disrespect that is mind-boggling.  And I see no &#8216;back-turning&#8217; to speak of.  I just saw a moderate Republican candidate try to win back some conservative support with a VP pick.  Nothing new or unusual or back-turning there.  </p>
<p>I think EVAN is being mindless to believe stories about what Palin knows (or not) that the media made up and contrived with anonymous sources.  Think, Evan, please.  </p>
<p>Sarah Palin had a lot more executive experience than Obama.  She has a lot more ethical principle regarding human life too (than Obama) and she lives by her moral convictions in admirable ways.  Obama just thinks a baby is a &#8220;punishment.&#8221;  </p>
<p>Speaking of Buckley, he preferred to be governed by the first few hundred names in the Boston phone book than by the elites and intellectuals given to us by our Harvards and Yales and political power structures.  </p>
<p>I think EVAN is an Obamunist.  </p>
<p>I think Sarah Palin is a fine Republican and we need her kind as much as we need the Buckleys.  And we need them both.
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		<title>By: Make it Man</title>
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		<dc:creator>Make it Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 04:27:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And if you think Palin is an idiot because you listened the the media caricature, then you&#039;re not even as smart as she is....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And if you think Palin is an idiot because you listened the the media caricature, then you&#8217;re not even as smart as she is&#8230;.
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		<title>By: Make it Man</title>
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		<dc:creator>Make it Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 04:26:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt;&quot;She thought that Africa was a country!!!! She could not recite the signatories to NAFTA!!!! Sixth-graders know these kinds of things. Sarah Palin did not.&quot;&lt;/I&gt;

That&#039;s Malarkey. You are only seeing what the media chose to report. The GOP buffoon who only partly overheard a conversation in which Africa came up made it look like she didn&#039;t know it was a continent.

Heck, I can&#039;t tell you who the signatories for NAFTA either. I remember the hullabaloo over it, but I couldn&#039;t say for sure who signed the agreement. My guess would be all the countries in North America Canada, US, and Mexico. AFter that? 

I echo what Matt Y. wrote above. You have fallen for bad partisan reporting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;She thought that Africa was a country!!!! She could not recite the signatories to NAFTA!!!! Sixth-graders know these kinds of things. Sarah Palin did not.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>That&#8217;s Malarkey. You are only seeing what the media chose to report. The GOP buffoon who only partly overheard a conversation in which Africa came up made it look like she didn&#8217;t know it was a continent.</p>
<p>Heck, I can&#8217;t tell you who the signatories for NAFTA either. I remember the hullabaloo over it, but I couldn&#8217;t say for sure who signed the agreement. My guess would be all the countries in North America Canada, US, and Mexico. AFter that? </p>
<p>I echo what Matt Y. wrote above. You have fallen for bad partisan reporting.
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		<title>By: Matt Y.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Y.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 18:04:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;But just how true is caricature? I would suggest, not very, and in fact I would suggest that those who subscribe to that belief ask themselves on just what real evidence they do so. There’s very little to support their claims; if you sit down and trace the most egregious complaints about her -particularly with respect to abortion, or drugs, or education, to her actual political stands, and her accomplishments in office and in her family, you’ll find more often than not that what the public is being shown is what the media has chosen to project upon her. This is just bad partisan reporting...&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>But just how true is caricature? I would suggest, not very, and in fact I would suggest that those who subscribe to that belief ask themselves on just what real evidence they do so. There’s very little to support their claims; if you sit down and trace the most egregious complaints about her -particularly with respect to abortion, or drugs, or education, to her actual political stands, and her accomplishments in office and in her family, you’ll find more often than not that what the public is being shown is what the media has chosen to project upon her. This is just bad partisan reporting&#8230;</i>
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		<title>By: Yeah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yeah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 15:05:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m no Palin fan, but she doesn&#039;t believe Africa is a country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m no Palin fan, but she doesn&#8217;t believe Africa is a country.
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