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Not your typical sermon
Yesterday a Texas pastor used the pulpit to give his married parishioners a challenge: Have sex daily for the next seven days.
Sound a little taboo for a church service? Not for Rev. Ed Young, founder of Fellowship Church in Grapevine, Texas, who even had a bed onstage as part of his message: “The church has been silent over a topic that God is not silent about. And when you think about it, God is the one who made love. He invented it, and he wants those of us who follow him, true believers, to make love, so we’re going to talk about it.”
Is it time more pastors followed Young’s lead, or is the subject of sex still too taboo for church?
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no subject is too taboo for children of God
the stage is the problem
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They had better build a bigger nursery!
Our church isn’t silent about it, but this is a bit over the top. You don’t have to tell people to have sex. And this puts undue pressure on those who are not married.
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the fallout of large group dynamics
our public school education model, we exist as a mass
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2. Our sermon yesterday was on marriage and sex and this morning my husband predicted that in nine months there will be an increase in the church attendance via the nursery. It helps that it is very cold here last night.
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Gee pastor how is your Merck stock doing these days?
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Profane preaching, plain and simple.
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If God’s people cannot talk about sex, who can? God has given us a lot of information about it. However, I have never heard of this commandment. Having read the bible several times, there is still much I miss. Perhaps this is one of those things.
Seriously, why did he issue the challenge? Does he have an inside scoop that his married parishioners are not having sex? Isn’t this somewhat voyeouristic? Doesn’t it make young children think things about their parents that most would not want to think about? Isn’t this bringing in another to the marriage bed; in fact a whole church in a sense? Are there no classrooms where such discussions can go on in a smaller, more personal basis?
Sex is about intimacy. Not an act on a bed. It also says a lot about the relationship between God and his church. Is that going to be reported on the news too? Or is the shock value enough?
I think this is sad.
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again, fallout from stage produced religion
impersonal and offensive
excellent post
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He crossed the line.
The topic of sex is not (or should not be) taboo for church, but I think his comments were unnecessary for a worship service.
With that said, I DO think it’s perfectly fine for a pastor to urge his married congregation to have more sex, but the setting and the delivery has to be appropriate. Maybe in a class designed for couples or a small group.
As KI said, sex is about intimacy, and it is very important. Church’s are generally comfortable telling its married members to grow in intimacy, but sometimes it is good to be specifc. i.e. have more sex! Get to know your spouse more and more.
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Heh, my pastor, not on a stage, said a few weeks ago during a sermon on Colossians that married couples should not only be having sex, but great sex.
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Sawgunner – It’s Pfizer (not Merck) that makes the magic little blue pills.
Ed Young’s wife is kinda hot. I think his on-stage antics are little more than chest-pounding. A silverback wannabe trying to demonstrate his virility.
Still, I can’t turn down a good offer. Us unmarried folks can support this challenge, just as long as we don’t inhale!
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I cannot think of any clever appropriate comment beyond well said, Ki!
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Sex is an inappropriate topic for a Sunday morning worship service. There are children in that service who are too young to be exposed to these details; there are unmarried folks in that service would would get nothing out of a message like that. (Have sex with your spouse? What spouse???)
It’s perfectly OK for the church to talk about sex, but it should be done in a Sunday school or Bible study type setting, where it will be applicable and appropriate to most (impossible to guarantee all) of the listeners.
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I’m guessing since he likes sex, this pastor is a Republican and happily married. He is nondenominational though – who would have guessed that?
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I am noticing a trend in the Church to emphasize sex and sexuality a lot. It’s really creepy. It’s as though it’s not enough that God calls marital sex good and provides it for his children in marriage. All of a sudden I’m seeing all of these Christian books on sex and hearing men in the Church say that they want to discuss it more and hear about it more. That’s probably what has driven this pastor to preach this way.
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I disagree Kim. If its addressed in scripture, why shouldnt it be preached at the sunday service. Its not like he’s being overly descriptive or graphic.
I’m not married, but even such sermon content still has applications to me, as they are a reminder of what sex is, what its for, and that it is righteous inside of marriage.
Kids hear far worse on tv. Kids in the 5th grade up especially.
However, I dont know what his method will enhance or solve. Lack of sex especially good sex is usually the result of some deeper unresolved issue between spouses.
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When our pastor preached on sex one Sunday this year, he made a point to announce it well ahead of time so parents knew it was coming, and a special program was provided for all children fifth grade and under. He didn’t recommend anything like “have sex every day” or get graphic. But he did speak very plainly on the topic, telling what the Bible has to say about it. (And he had his wife speak for the woman’s point of view, telling men what their wives would probably like them to know.)
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Kids hear far worse on tv. Kids in the 5th grade up especially.
That doesn’t mean which should deliberately discuss having sex in front of them … besides, it should be left up to the individual parents when & how to teach their children about sex. A parent may not feel their 10 year old child is ready to hear about sex yet, or may want to share about it in their own words & in their own way.
I’m not married, but even such sermon content still has applications to me, as they are a reminder of what sex is, what its for, and that it is righteous inside of marriage.
This I will grant you, but it sounds like the sermon was aimed not at “what sex is” and more “what impact frequent sex has on the marriage relationship”–a sort of Sunday sermon mini-marriage seminar from which I, as a single woman, am excluded. Hearing a sermon about sex in marriage makes about as much sense as going to a marriage retreat as a single.
If ther’s going to be a solution to this, Pauline probably has it–scheduling far in advance so individual families can take what measures they feel are necessary.
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“That doesn’t mean which should deliberately discuss having sex in front of them … besides, it should be left up to the individual parents when & how to teach their children about sex. A parent may not feel their 10 year old child is ready to hear about sex yet, or may want to share about it in their own words & in their own way.”
I dont know of many pastors who get descriptive about it. Nor did this one although im going from the article and not the actual full sermon. Its in general. Nobody is spilling intimate graphic details.
I dont agree with why he did it, just for some sexperiment either. On that point I think you are right. You solve the forewarning issue by not preaching topical, but through whatever book. You know whats coming then.
But if a parent is waiting till their kid is 10 to discuss sex, theyve already lost. Sex inside of marriage is good, holy, and righteous. What is good will not have an adverse affect on kids. THey need to hear what is right even more than what the world promotes.
I wonder how many parents who think they (the kids) shouldnt hear a sermon on sex, sit at home, watch primetime tv, with their 3 year old in their lap?
But ya know, most kids are either 1. Asleep during service or 2. drawing and not paying attention anyway. But what is the fear over hearing the S word? I mean really? Too afraid to discuss it post sermon with your kids if and when they ask about it? If the kid is paying attention sounds like their old enough to understand to me, so I find it wiser to be ahead of the world, which doesnt care what age your child is.
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What was the Reverend’s scripture text for that sermon? Do we think he’s making rules that the Bible writers didn’t see the need for? Why? Bring in more folks? Bigger offerings? I wonder.
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Most of the Christian homeschool families we know have at least four kids, and many have 8-10 and even more. In the old days, a large family was a sign of virility and implied frequent, quality sex. Seems that homeschool circles is the only place today where this can be presumed.
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Why didn’t Ed Young and his wife just get down on the floor and do it right there?
(Actually, that’s probably just a year or two down the road.)
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There are a variety of typical and regular topics at worldmagblog that strike me as “evangelical pornograph.”
Much of that falls into homosexuality (good for a large number of posts), immoral dress, wanton ways among the youth, abortions, etc.
This topic is a slightly unuusal variation on the theme. The Beatles sang about “Why Don’t We Do It in the Road?”
The wmb version is, “Why Don’t We Do It in the Pew?” Or as #20 says, “Bigger Offerings?” Indeed.
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