Comments on: Turkey post mortem http://online.worldmag.com/2008/12/02/turkey-post-mortem/ A forum for discussion of news that arises at the intersection of Christianity and culture. Thu, 18 Mar 2010 05:10:47 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Chas http://online.worldmag.com/2008/12/02/turkey-post-mortem/comment-page-1/#comment-375771 Chas Wed, 03 Dec 2008 22:02:41 +0000 http://online.worldmag.com/?p=18206#comment-375771 Bob B., I was just kidding about the 'dour' part. I'm working the scrabble and am sensitive to all four letter words now. But I couldn't think of Andree as being "dour" or gloomy, I think it rhymes with "sour" and "door". Bob B., I was just kidding about the ‘dour’ part. I’m working the scrabble and am sensitive to all four letter words now. But I couldn’t think of Andree as being “dour” or gloomy, I think it rhymes with “sour” and “door”.

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]]> By: Peter Leavitt http://online.worldmag.com/2008/12/02/turkey-post-mortem/comment-page-1/#comment-375708 Peter Leavitt Wed, 03 Dec 2008 18:44:54 +0000 http://online.worldmag.com/?p=18206#comment-375708 Pardon me. In the above I meant to say "...averse to hand wringing guilt regarding their faults." Pardon me. In the above I meant to say “…averse to hand wringing guilt regarding their faults.”

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]]> By: Peter Leavitt http://online.worldmag.com/2008/12/02/turkey-post-mortem/comment-page-1/#comment-375706 Peter Leavitt Wed, 03 Dec 2008 18:41:53 +0000 http://online.worldmag.com/?p=18206#comment-375706 Actually, America;s greatness does go back to the solid Christian foundation during the colonial period. The most incisive account of this is Tocqueville's Democracy in America, which with full knowledge of the difficulties with the Indians and slaves, recognizes the profound Christian democratic roots of our nation. The liberal view that the country was founded on genocide and slavery is a narrow and mostly mythical canard. Sure, we necessarily and sometimes unfairly fought the Indians and foolishly got involved with chattel slavery. The Indian warriors fought hard and knew that fundamentally they were defeated more by disease than injustice. America is practically the only country in the world where the weak kneed and guilt prone left tries to dominate the cultural discussion. People in Europe, with all their historical faults, are proud of their nations and averse. Far from "going wrong" Victoria is quite right. Actually, America;s greatness does go back to the solid Christian foundation during the colonial period. The most incisive account of this is Tocqueville’s Democracy in America, which with full knowledge of the difficulties with the Indians and slaves, recognizes the profound Christian democratic roots of our nation.

The liberal view that the country was founded on genocide and slavery is a narrow and mostly mythical canard. Sure, we necessarily and sometimes unfairly fought the Indians and foolishly got involved with chattel slavery. The Indian warriors fought hard and knew that fundamentally they were defeated more by disease than injustice. America is practically the only country in the world where the weak kneed and guilt prone left tries to dominate the cultural discussion. People in Europe, with all their historical faults, are proud of their nations and averse.

Far from “going wrong” Victoria is quite right.

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]]> By: Random Name http://online.worldmag.com/2008/12/02/turkey-post-mortem/comment-page-1/#comment-375566 Random Name Wed, 03 Dec 2008 05:18:15 +0000 http://online.worldmag.com/?p=18206#comment-375566 How did you go so wrong? Was it starting our wonderful Christian republic with slaves to pick cotton and genocide against the original inhabitants? Just wondering. How did you go so wrong? Was it starting our wonderful Christian republic with slaves to pick cotton and genocide against the original inhabitants? Just wondering.

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]]> By: Victoria http://online.worldmag.com/2008/12/02/turkey-post-mortem/comment-page-1/#comment-375483 Victoria Tue, 02 Dec 2008 22:49:24 +0000 http://online.worldmag.com/?p=18206#comment-375483 "Happpy Turkey Day" - I believe those who use this phrase know exactly what their saying, and why - they want nothing to do with what it stands for, or the gifts we have received in our lives - they most certainly don't count thanking the LORD for what HE has given us. Many who said this to me this year, are those who live here, but were born elsewhere - that should give us something to think about. “Happpy Turkey Day” – I believe those who use this phrase know exactly what their saying, and why – they want nothing to do with what it stands for, or the gifts we have received in our lives – they most certainly don’t count thanking the LORD for what HE has given us. Many who said this to me this year, are those who live here, but were born elsewhere – that should give us something to think about.

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]]> By: Bob Buckles http://online.worldmag.com/2008/12/02/turkey-post-mortem/comment-page-1/#comment-375470 Bob Buckles Tue, 02 Dec 2008 22:19:30 +0000 http://online.worldmag.com/?p=18206#comment-375470 #4 Chas Since I don't remember hearing the word dour I just rhymed by spelling. Was I wrong? Besides, I was just agreeing. I am working to be agreeable. It is change I can believe in. #4 Chas

Since I don’t remember hearing the word dour I just rhymed by spelling. Was I wrong? Besides, I was just agreeing. I am working to be agreeable. It is change I can believe in.

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]]> By: Peter Leavitt http://online.worldmag.com/2008/12/02/turkey-post-mortem/comment-page-1/#comment-375469 Peter Leavitt Tue, 02 Dec 2008 22:19:07 +0000 http://online.worldmag.com/?p=18206#comment-375469 A nation with a Christian heritage that voices the inane "Happy Turkey" for Thanksgiving and "Happy Holidays" for Christmas has lost its bearings. Next for Easter it will be "Happy Bunny." A nation with a Christian heritage that voices the inane “Happy Turkey” for Thanksgiving and “Happy Holidays” for Christmas has lost its bearings. Next for Easter it will be “Happy Bunny.”

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]]> By: menliketreeswalking http://online.worldmag.com/2008/12/02/turkey-post-mortem/comment-page-1/#comment-375305 menliketreeswalking Tue, 02 Dec 2008 16:35:49 +0000 http://online.worldmag.com/?p=18206#comment-375305 eh, this reminds me of a time when my friend decided that we ought to boycott Banana Republic because the term "Banana Republic" is really quite an obnoxious one and not exactly something we ought to celebrate. And maybe she was right, but the real problem is not some ad executive maniacally plotting a way to make their company's name cool yet obnoxious, but that consumers don't know their history and they like to buy expensive clothes without a good reason. I agree with Chas; I think it was just people trying to be cute, but it ran amok in a fertile culture of unthankful people. eh, this reminds me of a time when my friend decided that we ought to boycott Banana Republic because the term “Banana Republic” is really quite an obnoxious one and not exactly something we ought to celebrate.

And maybe she was right, but the real problem is not some ad executive maniacally plotting a way to make their company’s name cool yet obnoxious, but that consumers don’t know their history and they like to buy expensive clothes without a good reason.

I agree with Chas; I think it was just people trying to be cute, but it ran amok in a fertile culture of unthankful people.

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]]> By: Chas http://online.worldmag.com/2008/12/02/turkey-post-mortem/comment-page-1/#comment-375291 Chas Tue, 02 Dec 2008 15:46:36 +0000 http://online.worldmag.com/?p=18206#comment-375291 Bob, you don't even know how to fake political correctness. I saw through it when wou rhymed "sour" and "dour". But I pointed out earlier that "Turkey Day" was not originally a PC thing, but just some guys trying to be cute. Bob, you don’t even know how to fake political correctness. I saw through it when wou rhymed “sour” and “dour”.

But I pointed out earlier that “Turkey Day” was not originally a PC thing, but just some guys trying to be cute.

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]]> By: Bob Buckles http://online.worldmag.com/2008/12/02/turkey-post-mortem/comment-page-1/#comment-375284 Bob Buckles Tue, 02 Dec 2008 15:08:52 +0000 http://online.worldmag.com/?p=18206#comment-375284 Andree You are just a sour, dour Conservative. Next thing you know you will be telling us that you are a Republican! How can you not want change? Out with the old, in with the new! You CCRs are always seeing an attack on your <i>"precious"</i> Christianity in everything that modern society. You are a bunch of "stick in the mud" conservatives. You need to get with it… I am really tired of constantly being told how I should think by people who don't think that the Bible is real. God is just a figment of our imagination. When we observe something, we are wrong, and stupid too. Andree

You are just a sour, dour Conservative. Next thing you know you will be telling us that you are a Republican! How can you not want change? Out with the old, in with the new!

You CCRs are always seeing an attack on your “precious” Christianity in everything that modern society. You are a bunch of “stick in the mud” conservatives. You need to get with it…

I am really tired of constantly being told how I should think by people who don’t think that the Bible is real. God is just a figment of our imagination. When we observe something, we are wrong, and stupid too.

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