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		<title>By: Victoria</title>
		<link>http://online.worldmag.com/2008/12/03/changing-online-culture/comment-page-1/#comment-376852</link>
		<dc:creator>Victoria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 19:13:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A Gorgon are you? LOL  Do you make public appearances or just  &#039;drive by&#039; posts?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A Gorgon are you? LOL  Do you make public appearances or just  &#8216;drive by&#8217; posts?
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		<title>By: Intellectual Gorgon</title>
		<link>http://online.worldmag.com/2008/12/03/changing-online-culture/comment-page-1/#comment-376775</link>
		<dc:creator>Intellectual Gorgon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 03:59:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Victoria, to clarify, what Cuthaltion is saying is that he&#039;s &lt;i&gt;never&lt;/i&gt; seen you say anything nice. He&#039;s not just referring to your post on this topic.

I&#039;ve been on WorldMagBlog as a very religious lurker, ever since it started. I&#039;ve read a lot of bloggers, and frankly, I have never met one as consistently small-minded, mean, and dark as you. Your willingness to be needlessly snide with the gentleman who posted here - whether he&#039;s affiliated with iList or not, is frankly appalling... especially for one who is supposed to be following the winsome example of Jesus Christ. You seem to have forgotten that people that you communicate with over the Internet are just as human as people you speak to on the street, and just as deserving of your kindness. To be blunt, you owe everyone here, especially the non-Christians here, an apology for your complete failure to even attempt to live up to the words and teachings of Jesus.

Now, as far as your point goes, you are completely wrong to say that this is a &quot;gimmick.&quot; I won&#039;t try to point out to you the wrongness of your rather unwieldy attempt to subtly insult anyone who uses this service. Furthermore, your claim to knowledge on thsi subject can be disproven by anyone with a Facebook account.

As a user of iList and of similar services, I can testify that they actually work pretty darn well, not to mention conveniently. Giving your cell phone number doesn&#039;t give away any crucial identity information. You can&#039;t use it to search for an address, for the obvious reason that a cell phone isn&#039;t confined to an address; nor can you use it to search for a name, because your cell provider ties your name to your bill. It&#039;s considered billing information, therefore, it&#039;s protected. 

There&#039;s very little personal risk involved in a service like this. Facebook and Myspace only contain as much information as you&#039;re willing to make available, and even then, they&#039;re only accessible by the people you want to allow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Victoria, to clarify, what Cuthaltion is saying is that he&#8217;s <i>never</i> seen you say anything nice. He&#8217;s not just referring to your post on this topic.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been on WorldMagBlog as a very religious lurker, ever since it started. I&#8217;ve read a lot of bloggers, and frankly, I have never met one as consistently small-minded, mean, and dark as you. Your willingness to be needlessly snide with the gentleman who posted here &#8211; whether he&#8217;s affiliated with iList or not, is frankly appalling&#8230; especially for one who is supposed to be following the winsome example of Jesus Christ. You seem to have forgotten that people that you communicate with over the Internet are just as human as people you speak to on the street, and just as deserving of your kindness. To be blunt, you owe everyone here, especially the non-Christians here, an apology for your complete failure to even attempt to live up to the words and teachings of Jesus.</p>
<p>Now, as far as your point goes, you are completely wrong to say that this is a &#8220;gimmick.&#8221; I won&#8217;t try to point out to you the wrongness of your rather unwieldy attempt to subtly insult anyone who uses this service. Furthermore, your claim to knowledge on thsi subject can be disproven by anyone with a Facebook account.</p>
<p>As a user of iList and of similar services, I can testify that they actually work pretty darn well, not to mention conveniently. Giving your cell phone number doesn&#8217;t give away any crucial identity information. You can&#8217;t use it to search for an address, for the obvious reason that a cell phone isn&#8217;t confined to an address; nor can you use it to search for a name, because your cell provider ties your name to your bill. It&#8217;s considered billing information, therefore, it&#8217;s protected. </p>
<p>There&#8217;s very little personal risk involved in a service like this. Facebook and Myspace only contain as much information as you&#8217;re willing to make available, and even then, they&#8217;re only accessible by the people you want to allow.
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		<title>By: Victoria</title>
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		<dc:creator>Victoria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 19:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cuthalion

Believing this sort of nonsense has nothing to do with &quot;being nice&quot; it has everything to do with being SMART, and understanding how the internet and all the gimmicks work - and then not &#039;falling for it&#039;- :lol:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cuthalion</p>
<p>Believing this sort of nonsense has nothing to do with &#8220;being nice&#8221; it has everything to do with being SMART, and understanding how the internet and all the gimmicks work &#8211; and then not &#8216;falling for it&#8217;- <img src='http://online.worldmag.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif' alt=':lol:' class='wp-smiley' />
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		<title>By: StuBob</title>
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		<dc:creator>StuBob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 12:26:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;.. .the guy who owns it (or at least somebody claiming to be him — if we were connected to iList, you’d actually be able to tell. go figure) ...&lt;/i&gt;

Had the same thought.  Or, maybe I&#039;m your sock puppet. Perhaps we could tell on iList :-)

There are a lot of unanswered questions, but the basic idea is sound.  As to ID theft, I don&#039;t see how a Facebook page is any more threatening than a phone book listing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>.. .the guy who owns it (or at least somebody claiming to be him — if we were connected to iList, you’d actually be able to tell. go figure) &#8230;</i></p>
<p>Had the same thought.  Or, maybe I&#8217;m your sock puppet. Perhaps we could tell on iList <img src='http://online.worldmag.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>There are a lot of unanswered questions, but the basic idea is sound.  As to ID theft, I don&#8217;t see how a Facebook page is any more threatening than a phone book listing.
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		<title>By: Cameron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cameron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 22:26:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cuthalion,
My Facebook (and its very limited info) is only open to friends I have accepted--not the general public.
I visited the site twice trying to see an example, but it can&#039;t be done without registering...The &quot;Meet the Team&quot; page he suggests in #4 is simply the bios of the guys involved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cuthalion,<br />
My Facebook (and its very limited info) is only open to friends I have accepted&#8211;not the general public.<br />
I visited the site twice trying to see an example, but it can&#8217;t be done without registering&#8230;The &#8220;Meet the Team&#8221; page he suggests in #4 is simply the bios of the guys involved.
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		<title>By: Cuthalion</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cuthalion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 08:33:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And, Victoria, are you &lt;i&gt;ever&lt;/i&gt; nice?

Seriously, they post this, and the guy who owns it (or at least somebody claiming to be him -- if we were connected to iList, you&#039;d actually be able to tell. go figure) is nice enough to come on and attempt to address your concerns and link you to the site, where you can presumably (it&#039;s &quot;Uncategorized&quot; on my network&#039;s filter, so I can&#039;t actually get to it right now) see a privacy policy and examples of existing accounts before you decide to make an account.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And, Victoria, are you <i>ever</i> nice?</p>
<p>Seriously, they post this, and the guy who owns it (or at least somebody claiming to be him &#8212; if we were connected to iList, you&#8217;d actually be able to tell. go figure) is nice enough to come on and attempt to address your concerns and link you to the site, where you can presumably (it&#8217;s &#8220;Uncategorized&#8221; on my network&#8217;s filter, so I can&#8217;t actually get to it right now) see a privacy policy and examples of existing accounts before you decide to make an account.
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		<title>By: Cuthalion</title>
		<link>http://online.worldmag.com/2008/12/03/changing-online-culture/comment-page-1/#comment-375898</link>
		<dc:creator>Cuthalion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 08:27:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What information actually gets posted? What info can&#039;t already be assembled by looking up someone&#039;s myspace/facebook/etc.? How is this any less secure than a social networking site?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What information actually gets posted? What info can&#8217;t already be assembled by looking up someone&#8217;s myspace/facebook/etc.? How is this any less secure than a social networking site?
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		<title>By: Cuthalion</title>
		<link>http://online.worldmag.com/2008/12/03/changing-online-culture/comment-page-1/#comment-375897</link>
		<dc:creator>Cuthalion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 08:24:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, guys, you aren&#039;t being unduly hostile to this guy &lt;i&gt;at all!&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, guys, you aren&#8217;t being unduly hostile to this guy <i>at all!</i>
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		<title>By: Random Name</title>
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		<dc:creator>Random Name</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 03:38:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wondering why the Bible didn&#039;t predict the Internet and set rules for it. Well, Nostradamus didn&#039;t either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wondering why the Bible didn&#8217;t predict the Internet and set rules for it. Well, Nostradamus didn&#8217;t either.
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		<title>By: Victoria</title>
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		<dc:creator>Victoria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 23:48:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;bradseraphin - 7

On line safety has nothing to do with hope, love or faith! - it isn&#039;t a Biblical principal - &lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>bradseraphin &#8211; 7</p>
<p>On line safety has nothing to do with hope, love or faith! &#8211; it isn&#8217;t a Biblical principal &#8211; </p></blockquote>
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