Charges stand against praying parents
Earlier this week a Wisconsin judge refused to dismiss reckless homicide charges against two parents who stand accused of failing to seek medical care for their 11-year-old daughter as she died from untreated diabetes. Dale and Leilani Neumann told authorities they didn’t believe their daughter, Madeline, would die as they prayed for her healing. They reportedly considered her illness to be “a test of faith.” Prosecutors claim, however, that Madeline likely had symptoms for weeks before dying earlier this year after she became too weak to speak, eat, drink, or walk.
In his ruling, Marathon County Circuit Judge Vincent Howard stated that although the parents have the right to freely exercise their religious belief in prayer to cure illness, this right ”must yield to neutral, generally applied criminal statutes designed to protect public safety. Justice cannot give a free pass to anyone who claims that their religious beliefs blinded them to that which a reasonable person would be able to observe as a matter of fact.” A jury will now have to decide whether the parents reasonably knew that refusing to seek medical care for their daughter would endanger her life.




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As a follower of Christ who believes all life is sacred, this one is a mind blower. Would this same couple come upon an accident with bleeding, injured people and just stand around the cars and pray? This couple seems to neither understand the scriptures or the purpose of prayer. I grive their unnecessary loss and am glad Judge Howard judged rightly.
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Yuck. As much as I like to be an advocate for parents’ rights, their “faith” has led them to lose a daughter and they should face the legal consequences. I pray that their eyes would be opened to the error of their ways and that they would be comforted by Christ in their time of loss.
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Not to throw stones–though am I?–but where was their pastor or any other spiritual leader? Didn’t anyone try to intervene?
And what would you have done if you came upon someone in your church behaving like this?
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It is hard to say what one would do, but we have some godly pediatricians in our church that I would send there way. And if the child was too weak to speak or walk I’d call CPS.
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Would this same couple come upon an accident with bleeding, injured people and just stand around the cars and pray?
Good question. And no, they probably wouldn’t. I was raised in a church like this, where “going to the physicians” for a chronic condition was considered a denial of God’s power to heal, even while first aid for a crash victim would be allowed. Crazy cognitive dissonance that a theologian or 2 of ours attempted to reconcile, getting nowhere of course, but not leading to a reappraisal of the wrong belief.
Until, by God’s grace, a reform movement took hold, and this false distinction between God’s ways of answering prayer (directly, or through means) began to melt away.
All this to say, I feel for these folks. They’re tragically wrong, and should face the civil consequences, yet they got started down this strange road by attempting to be faithful to God and His Word. Without accountability, as Michelle and Adios point out, but an attempt at faithfulness nonetheless.
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This points out all that is wrong with the ‘word of faith’ movement.
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“accident with bleeding, injured people”
Apples, not oranges. The child became progressively sicker over time, she wasn’t instantly debilitated and if testing/professional assessment wasn’t done, the cause could have remained a mystery. I know people who have nearly died because of a lack of faith in the medical system from past contact, but did have faith in a kinesiologist’s voodoo, which had helped with other problems, but was wholly incapable of diagnosing this particular problem.
No Ivan, I don’t think it does at “all”. This is just one aspect, improperly followed/misapplied/possibly ignored. Consider that the answer to their prayer could have been a doctor.
I think the best question is where was this couple’s spiritual support? The dangers of going it alone without/outside of a strong community of other believers is obvious from this story—if that’s the case. I don’t see any evidence of that support from what we have here. Family tried, but how hard we don’t know and we don’t know if previous family problems/separation issues caused disbelief. It seems the larger/more diverse/more studious our community of believers that we plug into to try, test, and confirm what we think we understand the better.
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This advice works in many situations.
Pray as if it all depends on God. Work as if it all depends on you.
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I wonder what our local “parental rights” constitutional amendment advocate, momof5, has to say about this.
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Hi Arcadia,
Here’s what I think. This is a tragic situation, and intervention would have been appropriate. I don’t advocate for parental rights to the point of death as a result of negligence. Some parents do hurt their children.
(If this had been cancer, for instance, and the parents believed that the “cure”–chemo–recommended by the doctors would be worse than the natural progression of the disease, the parents would should have the right to deny treatment, however. I believe there was a case in the last few years to that effect–the docs sued the parents for not obeying the docs.)
I also think, strongly, that these rare instances are used as a propaganda tool by those who advocate for the position that the child belongs to the state, rather than the parents (the position the UN Rights of the Child Treaty operates from).
They will probably cite this as “proof” that children in general must be protected from their parents, giving bureaucrats and judges far too much power over families, and allowing social workers to overrule parents on matters far more benign than life or death, esp. involving/limiting education choices.
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momof5; A lot of parents abuse their children; that’s not propaganda, that’s fact. And enshrining any kind of parental rights in the Constitution will inevitably provide a shield for those inclined to do so.
Social workers, and judges, whom you seem to regard as evil, have every right to intervene when parents abuse their children; they save thousands of kids’ lives every year.
They also see to it that extreme religious doctrines such as that believed by these parents, who would presumably ‘home school’ their kids (if they got old enough) do not get passed down from generation to generation and spread the misery that they produce.
Abuse breeds abuse from generation to generation and you know that.
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But Arcadia, can you not see that you are approaching this not from the gov’t having to prove abuse before intervening, but rather the parents having to prove that they are NOT abusing before getting their children back?
It’s precisely backwards from the criminal justice system’s claim to treat everyone as innocent until proven guilty.
The tendency in this particular are is to take action first, and ask questions later. Innocent families are torn apart, and terrified children are dropped into foster care temporarily until the parents can prove their innocence.
Foster care is sometimes good, sometimes quite dangerous. It ought to take more than a social worker’s suspicion to wreck a family like this. The burden of evidence should be very high before a gov’t official can remove children from a home.
As a parent who is a conservative Christian, I do feel that we could be targeted by someone with a different worldview for harrassment in this area, and feel that the gov’t has an unbalanced amount of power.
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MOMOF5; You mean the same way that same-sex couples who adopt are targeted by conservative Christians?
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#13 I really can’t speak to that since I don’t know of anyone in that situation.
But I do have friends who have had “the system” investigate them in a threatening manner because a hostile neighbor charged them with abuse. The child in question had fallen off his bike, but the neighbor assumed that the parents beat him.
The social worker insisted on examining the child ALONE, and interviewed all the other children ALONE. It is unconscionable. And any resistance to this tact is seen as evidence of “hiding” the abuse.
No way do I want to let some stranger, no matter their capacity, come into my house and remove my child’s clothing! Or ask what could be leading questions to frightened children without any representation at all.
Abuse has been defined so broadly that there is no longer societal consensus. What many consider good parenting (reasonable spankings, skipping a meal for bad behavior, etc) is considered abuse by some with the power to take children from their parents.
This power grab by gov’t is part of the reason that so many kids are out of control. The parents are afraid to rein the kids in because they don’t even know what’s allowed any more beyond timeouts (which really don’t seem to work)!
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13. That is scary given the imagination and lack of communication skills of children. Just the other my son said another child in class hit, him, later he slipped and reveled that the other was absent that day. He has also said the cat dumped my dishtowels in the floor and his uncle turned over the garbage can. If I didn’t know my son well enough to carefully clarify and check on things he tells me, I would have tattled on the other child to the teacher, punished my cat and called the pound to my uncle.
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