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		<title>By: Harris</title>
		<link>http://online.worldmag.com/2009/02/19/persuasive-argument/comment-page-1/#comment-398867</link>
		<dc:creator>Harris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2009 04:20:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HRW notes the point I was trying to make.

And as to evidence, if the Canadian model is like ours in forensics, then the written speech would have included more documentation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HRW notes the point I was trying to make.</p>
<p>And as to evidence, if the Canadian model is like ours in forensics, then the written speech would have included more documentation.
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		<title>By: hrw</title>
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		<dc:creator>hrw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2009 03:38:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;“Had the speech had a better sense of its Canadian setting, the speech would likely have advanced further.” Not being Canadian, I’m not sure what that means. &lt;/i&gt;

I believe Harris is referring to the evidence she presents -- it came from American sources and contained American stats. She may have done better if she did some Canadian research but honestly I think her speech went as far it could. I have heard better at this level -- she&#039;s fairly young for grade seven and her tone reflects this. 

&lt;i&gt;She addressed the usual objections from those who advocate abortion. &lt;/i&gt;

I thought it was a bit of a caricature but given her age she did a fair job.

&lt;i&gt;Well since, no doubt, this girl has at least one classmate who’s gotten pregnant, I’d say this topic is pretty relevant for her audience. &lt;/i&gt;

Evidence? Its extremely rare for a grade seven girl to be pregnant and I teach in a school board with one of the highest levels of teen pregnancy in Ontario. 

However, I do agree that some of the content is relevant -- the grade seven health curriculum covers sexual harassment and fertilization and in grade eight it covers date rape and birth control.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>“Had the speech had a better sense of its Canadian setting, the speech would likely have advanced further.” Not being Canadian, I’m not sure what that means. </i></p>
<p>I believe Harris is referring to the evidence she presents &#8212; it came from American sources and contained American stats. She may have done better if she did some Canadian research but honestly I think her speech went as far it could. I have heard better at this level &#8212; she&#8217;s fairly young for grade seven and her tone reflects this. </p>
<p><i>She addressed the usual objections from those who advocate abortion. </i></p>
<p>I thought it was a bit of a caricature but given her age she did a fair job.</p>
<p><i>Well since, no doubt, this girl has at least one classmate who’s gotten pregnant, I’d say this topic is pretty relevant for her audience. </i></p>
<p>Evidence? Its extremely rare for a grade seven girl to be pregnant and I teach in a school board with one of the highest levels of teen pregnancy in Ontario. </p>
<p>However, I do agree that some of the content is relevant &#8212; the grade seven health curriculum covers sexual harassment and fertilization and in grade eight it covers date rape and birth control.
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		<title>By: vivianp</title>
		<link>http://online.worldmag.com/2009/02/19/persuasive-argument/comment-page-1/#comment-398750</link>
		<dc:creator>vivianp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 19:32:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still never got to see the video. It&#039;s now marked as &quot;private&quot; on YouTube. =(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still never got to see the video. It&#8217;s now marked as &#8220;private&#8221; on YouTube. =(
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		<title>By: kBells</title>
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		<dc:creator>kBells</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 16:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does this include our unborn daughters?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does this include our unborn daughters?
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		<title>By: Joel Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joel Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 16:21:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Barack Obama, coming out of the starting block as President, said this on the recent anniversary of Roe V Wade:
 
&lt;i&gt;“On this anniversary, we must also recommit ourselves more broadly to ensuring that our daughters have the same rights and opportunities as our sons: the chance to attain a world-class education; to have fulfilling careers in any industry; to be treated fairly and paid equally for their work and to have no limits on their dreams. That is what I want for women everywhere.”&lt;/i&gt; ~ President Barack Obama, January 22, 2009, the 36th anniversary of Roe V Wade.  

In other words (spoken in the context of advocating abortion on demand), we shouldn’t let innocent human life stand in the way of a girl&#039;s education, career or other perceived opportunities.  Sadly, some see a &lt;i&gt;career&lt;/i&gt; as something to die for.  Obama also wants it to be something to kill for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barack Obama, coming out of the starting block as President, said this on the recent anniversary of Roe V Wade:</p>
<p><i>“On this anniversary, we must also recommit ourselves more broadly to ensuring that our daughters have the same rights and opportunities as our sons: the chance to attain a world-class education; to have fulfilling careers in any industry; to be treated fairly and paid equally for their work and to have no limits on their dreams. That is what I want for women everywhere.”</i> ~ President Barack Obama, January 22, 2009, the 36th anniversary of Roe V Wade.  </p>
<p>In other words (spoken in the context of advocating abortion on demand), we shouldn’t let innocent human life stand in the way of a girl&#8217;s education, career or other perceived opportunities.  Sadly, some see a <i>career</i> as something to die for.  Obama also wants it to be something to kill for.
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		<title>By: NJLawyer</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 14:50:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Her assignment was to make a persuasive speech. This to me is an opening or a closing argument, so her facts would come from the side she is advocating.

I don&#039;t understand why anyone would question the child&#039;s maturity. Why can&#039;t you speak about what you want to speak about? I think the problem is that people don&#039;t want her argument to be heard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Her assignment was to make a persuasive speech. This to me is an opening or a closing argument, so her facts would come from the side she is advocating.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t understand why anyone would question the child&#8217;s maturity. Why can&#8217;t you speak about what you want to speak about? I think the problem is that people don&#8217;t want her argument to be heard.
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		<title>By: Ree</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 14:21:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I have found it better to have speeches that are better suited to the child’s experience or maturity.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Well since, no doubt, this girl has at least one classmate who&#039;s gotten pregnant, I&#039;d say this topic is pretty relevant for her audience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I have found it better to have speeches that are better suited to the child’s experience or maturity.</p></blockquote>
<p>Well since, no doubt, this girl has at least one classmate who&#8217;s gotten pregnant, I&#8217;d say this topic is pretty relevant for her audience.
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		<title>By: kBells</title>
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		<dc:creator>kBells</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 12:59:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Had the speech had a better sense of its Canadian setting, the speech would likely have advanced further.&quot;

Not being Canadian, I&#039;m not sure what that means.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Had the speech had a better sense of its Canadian setting, the speech would likely have advanced further.&#8221;</p>
<p>Not being Canadian, I&#8217;m not sure what that means.
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		<title>By: Harris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 12:55:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As someone who coaches and judges speech activities, I would have preferred the speech be memorized.  That said, I&#039;m with HRW as to the delivery.  

Cameron&#039;s point (she had to deal with date-rape) emphasizes why we generally point children away from such topics.  It is adult.  I have found it better to have speeches that are better suited to the child&#039;s experience or maturity.

Finally a word about content and structure.  In the high school students I coach, we work on who the audience is they seek to address, who do they see themselves addressing?  Had the speech had a better sense of its Canadian setting, the speech would likely have advanced further.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As someone who coaches and judges speech activities, I would have preferred the speech be memorized.  That said, I&#8217;m with HRW as to the delivery.  </p>
<p>Cameron&#8217;s point (she had to deal with date-rape) emphasizes why we generally point children away from such topics.  It is adult.  I have found it better to have speeches that are better suited to the child&#8217;s experience or maturity.</p>
<p>Finally a word about content and structure.  In the high school students I coach, we work on who the audience is they seek to address, who do they see themselves addressing?  Had the speech had a better sense of its Canadian setting, the speech would likely have advanced further.
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		<title>By: Ree</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 08:06:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, thank you, Bob, although I don&#039;t know that you&#039;d necessarily say that if you actually saw me. Oh well--I&#039;ll take it as a compliment anyway. :)

I don&#039;t think the girl is really all that pretty, though. To me, she looks kind of cute, but a little bit plain--kind of how I see myself, come to think of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, thank you, Bob, although I don&#8217;t know that you&#8217;d necessarily say that if you actually saw me. Oh well&#8211;I&#8217;ll take it as a compliment anyway. <img src='http://online.worldmag.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think the girl is really all that pretty, though. To me, she looks kind of cute, but a little bit plain&#8211;kind of how I see myself, come to think of it.
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