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	<title>Comments on: How Walter Hoye spent his time in jail</title>
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		<title>By: Nan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 16:25:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is not hard for me to belive. Young people are told in the media that abortion is legal and that fetuses are just blobs of tissue from a very early age. Even if you try very hard to sheild your child from these things they still see them at some point. You have to take the responsibility to teach your children the truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is not hard for me to belive. Young people are told in the media that abortion is legal and that fetuses are just blobs of tissue from a very early age. Even if you try very hard to sheild your child from these things they still see them at some point. You have to take the responsibility to teach your children the truth.
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		<title>By: Cheryl D.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cheryl D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 05:46:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Arcadia, I think science has already answered why this happens (there&#039;s usually a problem with the fetus, in early miscarriages), and the fact that God has power over life and death isn&#039;t really a problem for believers. It&#039;s when humans decide to play God and kill unborn babies that we have a problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Arcadia, I think science has already answered why this happens (there&#8217;s usually a problem with the fetus, in early miscarriages), and the fact that God has power over life and death isn&#8217;t really a problem for believers. It&#8217;s when humans decide to play God and kill unborn babies that we have a problem.
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		<title>By: arcadia</title>
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		<dc:creator>arcadia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 18:35:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From the Merck Manual:

&lt;i&gt;About 20 to 30% of women with confirmed pregnancies bleed during the 1st 20 weeks of pregnancy; 1/2 of these women spontaneously abort. &lt;b&gt;Thus, incidence of spontaneous abortion is about 10 to 15% in confirmed pregnancies. Incidence in all pregnancies is probably higher because some very early abortions are mistaken for a late menstrual period.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;

Very roughly this translates to 450,000 abortions per year. 

Those whose concerns are truly &quot;the babies&quot; might consider directing their efforts to supporting scientific efforts to understand why this happens, and to &quot;save&quot; these &quot;babies&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the Merck Manual:</p>
<p><i>About 20 to 30% of women with confirmed pregnancies bleed during the 1st 20 weeks of pregnancy; 1/2 of these women spontaneously abort. <b>Thus, incidence of spontaneous abortion is about 10 to 15% in confirmed pregnancies. Incidence in all pregnancies is probably higher because some very early abortions are mistaken for a late menstrual period.</b></i></p>
<p>Very roughly this translates to 450,000 abortions per year. </p>
<p>Those whose concerns are truly &#8220;the babies&#8221; might consider directing their efforts to supporting scientific efforts to understand why this happens, and to &#8220;save&#8221; these &#8220;babies&#8221;.
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		<title>By: Sawgunner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sawgunner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 13:57:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d love for Levi Johnston and Terrell to get together and compare notes. I wish they&#039;d do a speaking tour. Maybe kids would listen. But doubtful</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d love for Levi Johnston and Terrell to get together and compare notes. I wish they&#8217;d do a speaking tour. Maybe kids would listen. But doubtful
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		<title>By: Sawgunner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sawgunner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 13:48:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still say NCLB and the Dept of Ed are unconstitutional even if they quadruple all measurable performance outcomes.
Have they even raised test scores by 10 points? 
Show me the proof! I CAN handle the proof.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still say NCLB and the Dept of Ed are unconstitutional even if they quadruple all measurable performance outcomes.<br />
Have they even raised test scores by 10 points?<br />
Show me the proof! I CAN handle the proof.
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		<title>By: Bob Buckles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Buckles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 03:32:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are many children who, if not taught phonics, never read well enough to function in a literate society. This does not work the same way for children not taught by the Whole Language method.

Our educational system complains about &quot;Bush&#039;s No Child Left Behind&quot; but since it&#039;s inception, they have paid attention (at least a little) to what works; i.e. what is backed by research and testing. 

Los Angeles Unified School District changed it&#039;s instruction and I saw an improvement in the reading of our students. NCLB made a measurable difference in our students. They read much better. They were given primary reading programs that explicitly taught phonics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are many children who, if not taught phonics, never read well enough to function in a literate society. This does not work the same way for children not taught by the Whole Language method.</p>
<p>Our educational system complains about &#8220;Bush&#8217;s No Child Left Behind&#8221; but since it&#8217;s inception, they have paid attention (at least a little) to what works; i.e. what is backed by research and testing. </p>
<p>Los Angeles Unified School District changed it&#8217;s instruction and I saw an improvement in the reading of our students. NCLB made a measurable difference in our students. They read much better. They were given primary reading programs that explicitly taught phonics.
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		<title>By: Kyle A</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kyle A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 00:45:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>32

TRS, I have encountered analyses of words in English that indicate that 90%-95% of them are phonetically consistent.  This doesn&#039;t preclude the problem of homophones, but it does mean that a child can easily decode almost eny word if given a thorough program of phonics training (and barring specific learning disabilities).  The most difficult problems occur in spelling when there are multiple possibilities such as in the words &lt;i&gt;reed&lt;/i&gt; and &lt;i&gt;read&lt;/i&gt;.  

Of course, I would rather a child write &lt;i&gt;reed&lt;/i&gt; instead of &lt;i&gt;read&lt;/i&gt; then to spell it with a stream of meaningless letters or in some phonetically impossible way, such as *redd or *raed.

Kids who have been taught by the Whole Language method tend to remember that certain letters are in a word but cannot get the sequence right.  They cannot tell the difference between &lt;i&gt;broad&lt;/i&gt; and &lt;i&gt;board&lt;/i&gt; or between &lt;i&gt;who&lt;/i&gt; and &lt;i&gt;how&lt;/i&gt;.  That is a problem.  Kids who have been taught to read phonetically look at the exact sequence of the letters, because they know that generally that&#039;s how words are distinguished from one another.  They might misprounce a few words or spell somewhat inexactly, but their mistakes are understandable and still intelligible.</description>
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<p>TRS, I have encountered analyses of words in English that indicate that 90%-95% of them are phonetically consistent.  This doesn&#8217;t preclude the problem of homophones, but it does mean that a child can easily decode almost eny word if given a thorough program of phonics training (and barring specific learning disabilities).  The most difficult problems occur in spelling when there are multiple possibilities such as in the words <i>reed</i> and <i>read</i>.  </p>
<p>Of course, I would rather a child write <i>reed</i> instead of <i>read</i> then to spell it with a stream of meaningless letters or in some phonetically impossible way, such as *redd or *raed.</p>
<p>Kids who have been taught by the Whole Language method tend to remember that certain letters are in a word but cannot get the sequence right.  They cannot tell the difference between <i>broad</i> and <i>board</i> or between <i>who</i> and <i>how</i>.  That is a problem.  Kids who have been taught to read phonetically look at the exact sequence of the letters, because they know that generally that&#8217;s how words are distinguished from one another.  They might misprounce a few words or spell somewhat inexactly, but their mistakes are understandable and still intelligible.
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		<title>By: KI</title>
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		<dc:creator>KI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 23:30:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to the article, he did not break the law. Video shows that he did not come closer than 8 feet, unless he was approached. Did he have to run away? Also, isn&#039;t lying in court or to police officers breaking the law? Why aren&#039;t those people prosecuted?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to the article, he did not break the law. Video shows that he did not come closer than 8 feet, unless he was approached. Did he have to run away? Also, isn&#8217;t lying in court or to police officers breaking the law? Why aren&#8217;t those people prosecuted?
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		<title>By: kBells</title>
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		<dc:creator>kBells</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 22:17:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>29. You could say the same thing about Martin Luther King.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>29. You could say the same thing about Martin Luther King.
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		<title>By: Anlir</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anlir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 21:47:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Walter Hoye violated an Oakland City ordinance that prohibits protesters from coming within 8 foot of a woman entering/leaving an abortion facility.  Given the long history of intimidation, violence, bombings, and murders by the folks in the anti-choice movement, it&#039;s a very reasonable law.  Walter broke the law and he&#039;s paying the price.  He could have done work detail or volunteer work to avoid the sentence.  He chose not to.

He wanted to make a martyr and news celebrity out of himself, and so he has.  Now the conservative Christians will rally &#039;round the cry that he&#039;s being &quot;persecuted for Jesus&quot;.

No.  He broke the law.  He&#039;s convicted criminal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Walter Hoye violated an Oakland City ordinance that prohibits protesters from coming within 8 foot of a woman entering/leaving an abortion facility.  Given the long history of intimidation, violence, bombings, and murders by the folks in the anti-choice movement, it&#8217;s a very reasonable law.  Walter broke the law and he&#8217;s paying the price.  He could have done work detail or volunteer work to avoid the sentence.  He chose not to.</p>
<p>He wanted to make a martyr and news celebrity out of himself, and so he has.  Now the conservative Christians will rally &#8217;round the cry that he&#8217;s being &#8220;persecuted for Jesus&#8221;.</p>
<p>No.  He broke the law.  He&#8217;s convicted criminal.
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