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¡Feliz Cinco de Mayo!
Today’s quote is from a Texas-born seminarian and military man:
“Las armas nacionales se han cubierto de gloria (The national arms have been covered with glory).”
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He was hero of the battle of Puebla and he was actually born in Goliad Texas. Puebla was where the meagerly armed Mexicans defeated the French forces of Emperor Maximillian. This was in 1862. Maximillian was funneling weapons to the Confederate States. But I cannot recall his name!!
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We had our Cinco de Mayo meal last night. Portabella fajitas.
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Funny or Sad or Wonderful Whatever your take:
As you know Granny (my stepmother’s mother) died over the weekend and her funeral was yesterday. She never learned to drive. Her husband died in 1952, when my stepmother was 13, another sister 11, and the baby 10.
She got the girls up every Sunday, dressed them, and went to stand out by the road to hitch hike a ride to town to take them to church.
Funny: There was a Baptist church across the street from them, but they were Lutheran and she was going to make sure they grew up in the Lutheran Church.
Sad: No one from the Lutheran Church put any effort into getting a widow and her three children to church.
Wonderful: Widowed, and not able to drive, she made sure her girls were raised in the church.
Result: My stepmother is still Lutheran, one sister is Pentacostal, and the other got a bad taste in her mouth over religion because they sometimes had to ride in the back of a pick up with animals into town and then walk to church and they smelled bad.
Goes to show you can raise 3 children the exact same way and they will all turn out differently.
Me? I just love the part about being Lutheran so they walked on by a Baptist church to BE Lutheran. Sounds like some sort of hard headed thing I would do.
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Taco Bell last night in between matches at the league badminton championships (singles). We’ll have enchilada pie tonight–an easy casserole.
Can’t decide what to think of my daughter. Seeded fourth in the championship, she played 11 games. When she got to the final match, she chatted and laughed with her opponent, nearly giddy as the shuttlecock whizzed back and forth over the net in amazing feats of dexterity.
Her opponent’s parents were sitting in front of me. “It looks like they’re well matched,” I said.
The parents laughed. “It’s a question of who wants to go home first and who has more homework. They’re certainly having fun.”
(It’s was 8:30; we’d been there since 3:15).
As the game went on and on, I continued reading my latest edition of World Magazine. (I used this time to read all the backlog of magazines in my basket), looking up frequently.
When the match ended the other parents shook their heads. “It was in,” they said to me. “Your daughter called it out.” They laughed again. “We think your daughter just wants to go home–but that means we have to stay at least another hour!”
My daughter threw the final two games, 21-19; 21-20–so she ended up #3 instead of #1 or #2. She yawned as she skipped off the court. “I’m going to the regional finals anyway. I’ve got an essay to write, I’m tired, hungry and I want to go home. Who wants to stay another hour?”
I can’t decide if I admire her pragmatism or if I should have been a parent who urged her to excellence. So I smiled and drove her home–relieved to be heading there myself.
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16 Sept is the truly big Mexican holiday. Cinco de Mayo is not that big down there. This became a big “holiday” thanks mainly to the beer brewers/distributors who used it to justify booze sales.
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It was Gen Ignacio Zaragoza. Wikipedia shows the house he was born in which is a historic monument there in beautiful Goliad Texas which the Sawgunner family has visited. French victory at Puebla would’ve likely prolonged and maybe changed the outcome of the US Civil War.
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Technically Zaragoza wasnt born in the Lone Star state (though we’d love to claim him). At that time Goliad was territorio Mexicano.
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5. It’s an excuse to eat Mexican food.
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In respect to KarenO, I am declaring a truce. For the rest of May, I will avoid posting more comments about homosexuality in other post threads.
Christians at worldmagblog tell other people they should be able to control their sexual impulses. Obviously, some people can and do control their sexual impules, but as soon as you observe groups of people–not just an individual here and there–many people–whether Christian, other, or atheist–succumb to their sexual impulses, whether heterosexual or homosexual (or even bestial). Christians have been preaching about this for 2,000 years and people have been ignoring them for 2,000 years. Prayer does not work consistently.
My expectation is that you (Christians at wmb) will control their impulses to post a hundred comments or more each time there is an “approved” segregated thread. Victoria, by herself, is capable of giving into that impulse. However, Victoria is your problem. (I am very glad that she is not my problem.)
In May I hope to see no more than two homosexual discussion posts–gay marriage or other–we will know it when we see it. That is how the management of worldmagblog will control their impulses.
I hope to see the Christians post no more than 50 posts on these threads. We will all know who they are when we see it. Agree, and to withhold my end of the truce, I will not comment about homo obsession in other topics. If you can’t control your impulses in this regard–something much less demanding than controlling sexual impulses, I will unlease the other wmb–weapons of mass boredom. As lagniappe, I will refrain from posting comments about a book of myths.
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$5 Sawgunner
“16 Sept is the truly big Mexican holiday.”
16 September is at the beginning of the school year, Cinco de Mayo is in the end. There is much more time to prepare for a festival if the May day is celebrated.
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So what will I do to be a pest? I will quote comments with excessive generalizations, with stereotypes about atheists, liberals, feminists, and complaints about how Christians are stereotyped and labeled while engaging in the same behavior toward others.
It is possible to post intelligent and coherent comments expressing a conservative Christian point of view. It just takes a moment of thinking and editing and self-control before clicking POST. I am not censoring anybody. Just expcting an effort at following a single standard and trying to practice what you preach.
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This is not a US holiday. Why do we celebrate it? Is it for the same reason we celebrate Oktober Fest and St. Patrick’s Day? Having been raised in the northeast, this holiday escapes me.
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I don’t celebrate any of them, Klasko. My husband does mention St. Urho’s Day. That is the local celebration of some Finns of a completely fake legend of when St. Urho chased out the grasshoppers. Of course, my husband thinks he is Finnish royalty and I let him have his delusions and treat him like a king. Then again, it was he who made me breakfast this morning, so I guess he treated me more like royalty.
I hope you all are treated like royalty today. And not like during a peasant uprising!
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Mexican food . . . you haven’t spent enough time in the southwest, Klasko.
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This must be so. You don’t see any of us celebrating May 17th, Norwegian Independence Day — herring just doesn’t do it.
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Nice, amiable people:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,518956,00.html
Please note that if you can free yourself, you can survive. Please also note if you are a man, you get a better shot at it.
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NJL
There was a video clip of 3 men being stoned in Iran—I forget if it happened in the 1980’s or 90s, but I watched it a couple years ago. BIG mistake. I felt sick for days. Even now just thinking about it makes me sick. I don’t know that I have the stomach for capital punishment anymore. I’m glad that many States have stopped doing it.
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#5 Sawgunner and 10 Bob Buckles: While Mexico celebrates Independence Day on Sep 16, and most Mexicans celebrate May 5, the “big day” is any major holiday. they celebrate Christmas for two weeks in some places!
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NJL – Of course, we celebrate May 17. It’s my older daughter’s birthday! And she’s gonna be 20!
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Though Emily would get a kick out of knowing her birthday is also Norwegian Independence Day. Since she’s a vegetarian, I’ll eat her portion of herring for her.
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ROFL
NJL’s post on #15 sounds like it would come from NPR’s A Prairie Home Companion. I yam a fan of Garrison Keillor’s humor.
Actually, this was a birthday of a dear classmate/christian brother/friend who passed on in January of last year of a heart attack. Naturally it is he who I think of, and not Cinco de Mayo.
Of course, in my demented state of thinking, the only things we get from Mexico are burritos, illegal aliens and influenza from a fat pig. (no offense to Rosie O’Donnell)
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Yeah, what Michelle and Kbells said! Although any day in So Cal is a reason to eat Mexican food. Sept. 16th is the big Mexican holiday, but Cinco de Mayo is the big Mexican-American holiday for all of us in states that were, at one time, old Mexico. California owes much of its culture to Mexico so–like St. Paddy’s Day–every ethnicity here can join in. Today, we are all Mexicans
You’ll find me at Lola’s for Lunch, Garcia’s for dinner and anywhere else that has a mariachi band in full voice.
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I had a “Smart Ones” breakfast quesadilla for breakfast today so I’m off to a good start celebrating Cinco de Mayo.
I’ve always loved the Mexican culture, the swirl of bright colors and the mariachi music. Mexican restaurants are everywhere, which is indeed a wonderful thing! Guess it’s part of growing up in and around L.A. (and having taken a few trips into Mexico through the years).
On another topic, yesterday my watch fell off at the curb (without my noticing) and I later ran over it in my Jeep Liberty. It appears to be quite thoroughly busted, with the hands flying willy-nilly around the face at will and with half the band snapped off. So I ordered a Timex on Ebay last night.
Some people say watches are going out of style, most people now just use their cell phones to check the time. But I really do sort of feel lost without a watch. I must be older than I think.
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Klasko – it escapes lots of us, we don’t participate. I was born here and never celebrate Cinco de Mayo – Mexican restaurants make a big deal out of it, those who were born south of the border and their families have a good time.
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I AGREE with this one –
READ the whole article, there’s more!
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Donna,
The battery in my den clock has been going but still has some juice left. It rather reminds me of a dying cockroach wiggling its legs. For two days now the second hand has been on the 9–the significance of that is that is the number it has to fight gravity to leave. So it’s still ticking every second, and jerking up, and then falling back down to the 9. It seems to me that it would be a good backdrop to a murder mystery. (When I was in college, the clock in my floor’s kitchen didn’t keep time well, and it was amusing to watch people constantly setting it. Once in a while, to the astonishment of everyone who saw it for the first time, it would actually run backward.)
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Cheryl D: And you didn’t even run over it in a Jeep?
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Should be post #25 -
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They celebrated Cinco de Mayo at my son’s school today. They ate tacos and learned some Spanish. He was very proud of the fact that he tried salsa.
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28. I don’t know anything about Michael Savage, but why ban him and not a host of other radio nuts?
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Kbells – I don’t believe Savage belongs in the same category as the Phelps group, KKK or Hamas leaders.
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Kbells, who were you referring to as “other radio nuts” ?
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The above LINK gives a better description of each person, ACCORDING to the UK.
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Howard Stern for one.
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Does anyone understand how the “popular posts” sidebar works? For example, there’s a thread on Susan Boyle linked on there that appeared a couple of weeks ago and received 15 responses. How does that qualify it for a popular post with a special quick link.
Often I find that the threads in which I’m engaged in long and involved discussions are linked there and it’s very convenient when that’s the case. But other times there are posts there that just don’t seem to fit. Does anyone know why?
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Donna, if misery loves company, a fellow in our office lost his digital camera and found it outside. Someone had driven over it and cracked the lens. It still took pictures, but we really couldn’t see the picture, so it’s pretty much dead. I never used a watch because I’m left-handed and I always whacked it.
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Here’s another typical whackadoodle law from Obama: the climate bill. From Fox:
“The president’s bill, known colloquially as “cap and trade,” aims to “cap” carbon dioxide emissions and require firms that emit greenhouse gasses to purchases permits to discharge materials into the air. Firms can also trade for the right to pollute more.”
It’s the last sentence that irks me. If you are trying to clean up the environment, why would you let them have an out by trading for the right to pollute more? That doesn’t clean up the mess. It’s insane. As usual.
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A choice quote from Michael Savage:
“Now, the illness du jour is autism. You know what autism is? I’ll tell you what autism is. In 99 percent of the cases, it’s a brat who hasn’t been told to cut the act out. That’s what autism is. What do you mean they scream and they’re silent? They don’t have a father around to tell them, “Don’t act like a moron. You’ll get nowhere in life. Stop acting like a putz. Straighten up. Act like a man. Don’t sit there crying and screaming, idiot.”
Yup, he’s a gem.
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Oh, and what a surprise… worldnetdaily publishes his books.
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When you trade for the right to pollute more, your trading partner is agreeing to pollute less, to compensate. The net effect is the same, but industries that really need to discharge more than allowable levels of gases thereby have a mechanism to do so.
It’s quite sane.
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Duncan
Savage made a correction to his remarks about autism last summer.
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From wikipedia;
“On July 21, 2008, following a public information campaign led by Media Matters for America, several dozen parents and grandparents of autistic children picketed outside the studios of WOR in New York, calling for Savage to be fired and for commercial sponsors to withdraw their advertising from his program.[58] In response, WOR issued a statement saying, “We regret any consternation that his remarks may have caused to our listeners.”[55] Also that day, the insurance company Aflac pulled its advertising,[59] and the Supertalk Mississippi radio network dropped Savage’s program, replacing it with The Dennis Miller Show.[60] Later that evening, Savage devoted his entire three-hour program to the subject, taking calls from parents who took issue with his comments. On that show Savage stated that his remarks had been “ripped out of context” by “far left Stalinist” (referring to MediaMatters) who want him off of the air.[55][58]
Two Republican elected officials, both parents of autistic children, had harsh words for Savage’s remarks, with Alabama state Rep. Cam Ward calling them “the worst kind of ignorance”,[61] and Montana governor Brian Schweitzer saying, “I can tell you who is a brat. That would be Michael Savage, not the autistic people of Montana.”[62] Actress Holly Robinson Peete and her husband, sports radio host Rodney Peete, whose 10-year-old son is severely autistic, also issued a sharply critical statement.[63] On July 25, 2008, Autism United advocates gathered to announce that several advertisers, including RadioShack, Sears, Home Depot, and DirectBuy, will discontinue their support for Savage’s show.[64]
Savage’s employer, Talk Radio Network, has responded by releasing a lengthy statement, along with a selection of 20 audio clips drawn from Savage’s discussions of autism, to show that the comments were taken out of context.[65] All the comments however came from programs that aired after the controversial statements were made.[66]”
I don’t see in there where Mr. Savage clarified or apologized for his comments. Do you have another source Victoria?
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34. Well, it’ their country. It would be great if they did take some of these people off our hands.
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Thanks a lot to Sawgunner. I just realized the song I’ve been whistling all afternoon is “Go Home to Bonnie Jean” from Brigadoon . . .
Anyone else have a child named after a song? And it better not be “Louie, Louie”.
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Duncan, I did have another source earlier this afternoon, I can look for it later.
I can understand your concern, I too believe that Savage was out of line in what he said regarding autism. I would offer this, not in his defense, because their is no excuse for the mean remarks he made –
There are misdiagnosis regarding autism – that is to say, some children have some form of retardation, and although it can appear to be autism according to a few symptoms may not be. I’m not sure what I believe regarding all the children who now appear to be diagnosed with autism. This is just a thought, so don’t hold me to this as though it’s written in ink; I believe that many parents would much rather have their child diagnosed with autism than retarded, it makes them feel better –
There are so many children today which are diagnosed with ADD, but in fact do not suffer from it at all. I’ve watched first hand while a child has been diagnosed with ADD and falls back on that as an excuse not to study, learn to spell, read, etc. However when they are old enough to drive, they learn to read very FAST, time is of the essence – they became adept at using the computer – this is only because it serves their purpose. I don’t believe this applies to all children who have been diagnosed, (ADD) but it happens too often.
When parents find out that their child has a disorder which gives them a reason for their child not performing as others – they often use it as an excuse not to discipline their children, I’ve observed this, the child doesn’t behave, in fact they don’t stop the behavior until they are made to in the world of those above 16 years old – no one will tolerate it, so they modify their behavior.
In closing, it’s obvious there are children who suffer from autism, its severe – the parents spend endless hours working with their children, its frustrating to say the least. There are kids who are not severely handicapped but ‘could be’ disciplined’ but aren’t, this is where many watch the games some children play in getting their own way.
I don’t know how many kids you’ve been around you suffer from illness of one type or another, but to often they are not made to mind, the parents indulge their bad behavior when it could be avoided by discipline.
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There are many people with autism who also have mental retardation. Generally those are the more severe cases of autism, from what I have read. There are also many people with milder cases of autism, such as my son, who have an IQ that is average or above average. The autism does not cause the retardation, but for whatever reason often occurs together with retardation (they don’t know what causes the autism so they can’t say why they would occur together).
Since autism affects verbal skills, children with autism develop verbal skills later/more slowly, so it is hard to accurately measure IQ when they are young. They may give wrong answers because they don’t know the answer, or they may give wrong anwers because they don’t understand the question – or don’t know or care why they should be answering those silly questions anyway. (When my son was a toddler he did poorly on tests that were given to check his development, but when he was left to play on his own while my husband discussed the test results with the nurses, he did on his own what they had been wanting him to do earlier.)
I have a friend whose 5th grade son has autism, and they are just now able to conclude that he probably has some mild retardation as well. They were hoping of course that he did not, but at least knowing what is reasonable to expect from him academically will mean being able to get him an appropriate education without frustrating him and everyone else.
For me, the low frustration threshhold – common in people with autism – is the hardest part to deal with. My son has learned ways to cope so that he has far fewer meltdowns than he used to, and we and his teachers know to avoid, when possible, the kind of sudden changes that are most likely to upset him. But he still has meltdowns a lot more than other kids his age, and not being inside his head there’s no way for me to know whether he is doing his best to control himself or not.
From what I know of him, I think he is, and teachers accustomed to dealing with autistic children tell me he does well, but of course it’s difficult for me to see him break down in tears in the middle of children’s choir rehearsal. (I found out later that he was upset because the girl next to him moved the opposite way from what she was supposed to, on the motions that go with the song. I try to explain to him that he only has to take care of himself not other kids, but autistic people don’t deal well with things not being the way they are supposed to be.) I am grateful for the adult and teenage helpers who patiently deal with him, away from the other kids, until he calms down. (I’m there if needed but I don’t step in unless asked.)
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Pauline, it must be very frustrating at times – I don’t have a child with autism, so what I have learned is not something a parent such as yourself, who KNOWS what her child has and copes every single day goes through. You certainly appear to have lots of patience, which I admire in you.
I have read many of your posts on this subject, I thank you for all the information you have given on the blog.
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Hmm…
#46 is a fairly sensible post. I don’t take back any other mean things I’ve said, but fair is fair.
On Michael Savage…is he the Don Imus of conservative radio?
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LYNN VINCENT (“I am pro-choice,” 53): Sorry, Frank and Spinoza: I’d like to address your good arguments point by point, but my son is playing Daddy Warbucks in the school production of Annie tonight and I must be there.
Frank: So how was the play?
And are you ready to address our good arguments point by point yet?
Incidentally, an interesting point occurred to me over the weekend — something about the fundamental difference between the job of the physician and the job of the soldier.
I’m interested in exploring the implications of that fundamental difference.
“Warriors, come out and plaaaaaaayyyyyy … “
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Frank,
By any chance is your ‘point’ similar to the points I made in posts #73 and #75 last Saturday morning on the “I am pro-choice,” thread?
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Michelle,
I once knew an old lady named Lenore who told me she was named after Poe’s poem “The Raven.” Does that count?
Let’s see, I know a Susanna who lives in Alabama, not named because of the song, but her daddy still loves to sing, “O Susanna, don’t you cry for me . . .” especially when she was crying as an infant.
And my dog isn’t named Lassie, but she gets called Lassie by every other person who meets her. When the ice cream truck drove by once when I was taking her for a walk, playing “Have You Ever Seen a Lassie?” I told her, “They’re playing your song!”
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38(NJLawyer): It’s the last sentence that irks me. If you are trying to clean up the environment, why would you let them have an out by trading for the right to pollute more? That doesn’t clean up the mess. It’s insane. As usual.
Nobody’s trying to clean up the environment with this bill. It’s just a creative way to generate revenue for the Federal Government–a new method of taxation, doncha know! It’s the progressive change method.
Make those evil energy providers pay so energy costs soar and the gummit gets lots of money to spend on other programs. What a plan! #@%X&$!!!
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I’ve heard Michael Savage on the air a few times. One time he was literally screaming that he hopes teh gays all die from AIDS. He’s a hatemonger with the best of them.
I should note that Britain already has a Queen. So I doubt they’d take kindly to the WMB Queen telling them how to run their internal affairs.
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I should note one more thing before signing off to watch “The Daily Show”, all of the action is at WMB hated stepsister publication today. Just google “Joe the Plumber interview” and follow the links. We can only hope that it’s “Palin & the Plumber” for the 2012 election.
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Please show proof of what you accuse
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Victoria,
Yes.
Please see my reply to you at the “I am am pro-choice” thread.
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