Moms judging moms
Ayelet Waldman, author of what will surely be a boat-rocking book, The Bad Mother: A Chronicle of Maternal Crimes, Minor Calamities, and Occasional Moments of Grace, first received flack in 2005 over her New York Times essay, “Truly, Madly, Guiltily.” Her “crime?” Stating she loved her husband more than her children. That she loved them, but wasn’t “in love” with them. That life would go on after a child’s death, but that there would be no joy in her life were her husband to die. And guess who was first in line to cyber-punish Waldman for such heretical comments? You got it: moms.
In an interview on Today (see below), Ayelet says her recently released book isn’t meant as simply a response to such critics, but that being shunned and criticized by other moms really opened her eyes as to how cruel moms can be to each other.
Why is this? Why do we moms shoot our own, rip each other to shreds, judge, scrutinize and pick apart each other’s every motive? Waldman asserts that when we compare ourselves to bad mothers like Susan Smith or Britney Spears or the slacker mom down the street who feeds her kids nothing but Ding Dongs and Schwann’s frozen food, we don’t feel so bad about our own mothering. In a USA Today interview, Waldman explains, “You can get off on the badness and the horribleness of that mother and comfort yourself that ‘At least I’m not her.’”
Such vixen-like behavior can be even worse among Christian moms, because our standards for ourselves and for other moms are often higher than God’s. It is no longer just about holding the perfect Star Trek birthday party (although we would be the first in line to criticize that mother for encouraging such worldliness); it’s now about quantity of quiet times, who does and who does not have a meek and quiet spirit, and who is best exhibiting (our own particular flavor of) Christ likeness all day, every day, no matter that the kids have the flu and you haven’t slept a night through in 6.2 years. You don’t homeschool, home church, play soccer, take your kids to Awana, use Love and Logic, live in the country, drink raw milk? You let the “professionals” teach your children, live in the city, use birth control, and vaccinate your kids? You have a tattoo, drink wine, have an interesting piercing, read novels, and listen to Snow Patrol? Tsk, tsk, and double tsk.
We go to loggerheads over our personal “convictions,” bludgeoning each other with guilt trips, disappointed sighs, and “helpful” suggestions, all of which reverberate with a pseudo-sacred hum that makes it sound holy and good, but in actuality is just an attempt to homogenize us into group-thinking, lock-stepping, mommy drones who ignore our God-given intuition, common sense, and cognitive abilities. Why? We can’t stand the thought of standing alone and the possible subsequent scorning by women, even friends, who disagree with us. With this kind of pressure, it is no wonder the Andrea Yates of the world occasionally flip out.
Waldman hit it on the head: Moms are hardest on moms. Whatever the cause (immaturity, insecurity, or competitiveness) Christian moms might want to consider why it is that we, who have the Spirit of the living God within us, aren’t much more merciful and loving toward each other than our unbelieving counterparts.

















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All you wordsmiths might understand if you knew who she’s married to: Michael Chabon. A more versatile word user would be hard to find. Don’t much care for his plots, but the vocabulary and imagery! Astounding. Glorious. Intriguing. Fall off the chair laughing. Who would pay attention to kids with a man like that around?
Why are moms so hard on each other? I think many of us are so insecure in our own mothering that we need to find someone, anyone, who makes us look/feel better about our relatively minor failings. That’s why Octumom was such a target.
I’ve tried hard to steer clear of that judgment until my children were raised and I could be crowned the perfect mother. Unfortunately at 3/4 done, I’m not going to get that crown . . . that’s why I’m such a proponent of grace. Because I need it the most.
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First off, let me say this: I love my mom. She is an incredible testament to the grace of God, as she is now raising 15 children despite the fact that she had a terrible upbringing. She works hard, and she is a righteous & godly woman unmatched by any other woman her age that I know. And she still knows just about the lyrics to every Black Sabbath song by heart. So she’s pretty cool to hang out with, too.
So I say this because there is a group of women from church she gets together for dinner with that she jokingly calls “The Reformed Wives Club.” These ladies are all godly & upright, too, but they are not nearly as cool as my mom. They get together to self-flagellate about how they just aren’t submitting enough to their husbands or having enough quiet times. Some of them, we suspect, are too idealistic to realize that their 13-year-old son is not exactly memorizing the Westminster Larger Catechism when he’s alone in his room for an hour. I think it is interesting how easily Christians can misuse guilt & shame– either to bash others or to bash ourselves. Sometimes we even do it the other way around– I know that my mom, who is more often judged for being too lax in disciplining her kids or listening to Mark Driscoll, can be very quick to judge the judgmental!
There is righteous guilt that leads to repentance, and then there is unrighteous guilt that we use as a weapon– either against others or against ourselves. I think that immersing ourselves in an understanding of the mercy & severity of God is the best way to obliterate the sort of judgment that Jesus warns us not to exercise.
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Other than occasional comments here on the blog, generally addressed not to an individual but “mother who do …,” I can’t think of an example of seeing, or experiencing, moms being so hard on other moms. My experience is that moms are pretty sympathetic to each other because they know what it’s like to go through all that stuff. I haven’t had anyone (except occasionally my husband) criticize me for how I do mothering. If anything, other mothers have been very encouraging, urging me not to be too hard on myself for not keeping the house cleaner or keeping my son from acting up or whatever.
I don’t know if I tend to gravitate toward the sympathetic moms and away from the vixens, or if it’s the kind of area where I live or the churches I go to, or just God knowing I need the support of the encouraging moms rather than the opposite kind and guiding me in their direction.
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I think it is simply an extension of the growing up years of females. I remember the awful times at school of finding out that I was on the “uncool list” and being criticized for many things that were out of my control. Dare I say that women are just girls “grown up”?
In my current position of president of our homeschool group, I have the task occasionally of trying to get someone to see that the person they are disparaging is simply different from that person’s ideal. It is so much easier to simply do the list check off and see if you measure up – and to see if anyone else does, too. Naturally, you are generally harder on the other person than yourself.
As to loving husband more than children, I can agree. My husband and I chose each other (under God’s control, but willingly). The children that we have are our responsibility to raise and send out. Most of them should be constantly with us until around 18 years old. My husband and I have been married for 24 years and hope that we will have many more to come. We will still have a life after the children leave home, and I certainly hope that my love for him will exceed that of my love for our children.
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Well, it doesn’t help to be attending judgemental churches. Women are reflecting the church cultures from whence they come sometimes! They just happen to do it with a feminine flair.
I was in your church when a longstanding member asked in adult ss class what a woman, a single, divorced mom, who struggles to support her children on her own, who works full-time, who must pay for diabetes medication and cannot affored her own medical insurance, what this woman should do when it comes to tithing to the church. The young, 30-year-old in charge of the class that day continued repeating typical church “liturgical thought” by saying that she should, of course, tithe ten percent, being totally ignorant of the fact that this very woman sits in their midst and needs help. READ the Psalms, live the Psalms, true religion, visiting the widows and others in their distress. God help us to do Your will.
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Churches are often very hard on Moms and especially Moms that work outside the home. I started a website, http://www.christianworkingmom.com for that very reason. You wouldn’t believe some of the things I have heard. One woman told me she lied about how many hours she worked, because working part-time was acceptable at her church. I have heard if you would just sacrifice more, the Mom could stay home. Grace needs to be granted to Moms and we need to realize God did not design a one size fits all plans for families. Just because my family looks different than yours does not mean either one of us are wrong. My prayer is women would support and encourage one another instead of putting one another down.
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What’s wrong with a mother loving her husband more than she loves her children. According to God’s pattern, a man leaves his father and mother and cleaves to his wife. That tells me that the spousal relationship is to be regarded as higher than the paren-child bond which will become lesser as that child cleaves to his or her mate.
Seems to me the priority should be 1) a person’s relationship with God, 2) a person’s relationship with spouse, 3) a person’s relationship with children. It doesn’t mean you love them any less. And, by the way, they all come before self.
If we had these priorities straight, we’d have way fewer divorces and broken families.
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Christian Mom who work outside the home are often looked down upon in the church. I call them the silent majority. In fact, I began a website to support them, http://www.christianworkingmom.com. You would not believe some of the stories I have heard. I had one Mom tell me she lied about the number of hours she worked, because working part-time was acceptable at her church. Other women have been told if you would just sacrifice more you could stay home. As Christian women we need to support and encourage one another instead of putting each other down. I think stay at home Moms and working Moms can agree they want to raise children who worship and glorify God. Start where we agree and work from there.
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I know a single struggling mom who has supported her children for YEARS without child support and she is told to not workd and have faith and God will provide, no one is helping her, just judging, this is not the true church
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As a mom of preschoolers, I’m passionate about the decisions I make for my kiddos. We have flaws, I’m not perfect, but the things I do, I do with great intentionality. I think this passion, when unchecked by compassion for other moms, is what flames the discord. For example, breast- versus bottle-feeding is arguably the most intense debate among mothers of newborns. Nursing is challenging, and I find myself repeating in my mind, “This is for my baby’s benefit. It’s best for him. It’s worthwhile, even when it’s hard.” When I hear another mom “gave up” and picked up the bottle for convenience, I do feel my choice is superior. Is her baby healthy? Yes. Is she less of a mom? No — and it’s crucial that I remember that, as with the things she has to share with and offer me. It’s the passionate, intentional, and personal nature of mothering that heats the issues so severely.
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Klasko –
You’re right – “If we had these priorities straight, we’d have way fewer divorces and broken families.” GOD, husband and children –
It’s sad when a husband is stuck on the back burner while the children come first – he knows it, the children are aware they are the center of attention and use it to further divide conquer.
Women who put their kids first are often the ones who let themselves go – personal appearance is more often the first sign.
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Coachkimberly
I feel badly for any mother who must work for any reason, and then must take the heat from other women because she works.
Mortgages, food, clothing, cars, ins, etc, aren’t paid by any other means than money.
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Victoria,
You are right. It is as if heaping burning coals on their heads. I can hear the weariness in their voices.
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Coachkimberly
Those who don’t work might think about how hard it must be to get their kids ready for school, pack a lunch drive them and then get to the office – Then there are the endless appointments, meetings — the lunch meetings (if you’re lucky maybe you can eat while someone else talks) – stops to the market, cleaners, perhaps the drug store on the way home – then there’s dinner….. setting a table which is attractive with place mats, flowers and candles – YES, I did this. It’s not easy, it can be done but it’s hard. How many times I did my nails while talking on the phone, just to check in with gal friends.
I wonder how hard it must have been 2,000 years ago – no dishwashers, fridge, washing machines, dryers, or all the other things we now have – that wasn’t just a job that was three careers all in one – and don’t forget the garden’s they had to have just to eat, and the clothes they all had to spin and make. They had jobs, long hard jobs.
Husbands come first, mine has always put me first before anything, I could never have accomplished what I have without his help. He can grill better than anyone else, he lights candles every single night in our living room, I just LOVE him.
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Reg – First, let me say that I believe that the issue of tithing is between an individual (or couple) & God.
I also must say that I have heard testimonies by people who truly couldn’t afford to tithe, who tithed anyway, in faith, & found their needs met. Sometimes those needs would be met by someone from the church, sometimes in other, unexpected ways.
But that has to be done in faith, not because someone “says so”.
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I would venture to bet that those with such stories were married couples??
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As for the working single woman who has to buy her diabetes supplies? I’d nearly swear there are govt programs available to get all of that gratis or nearly so.
The discipline of tithing is quite challenging. It is truly a leap of faith. Mrs Sawgunner is usually the one who convicts us/me about it. (”You know, we’ve not written a check in a good while..”) But His mercy is unfailing. He will meet your needs. If He doesnt meet it, it wasnt a need.
Yep, it does sound trivial but it is true.
Just finished watching “The Pursuit of HappYness”. Amazing film. Could you live by such faith in the face of all the obstacles Gardner encountered? (Some of which he created for himself as I viewed it)
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I will tell you what, if this lady had it coming to her through the government, she would have known about that and done it since she works for the SRS!!!
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REG,
I’m sorry for all the pain you have suffered.
16 Hereby perceive we the love of God, because he laid down his life for us: and we ought to lay down our lives for the brethren.
17 But whoso hath this world’s good, and seeth his brother have need, and shutteth up his bowels of compassion from him, how dwelleth the love of God in him?
18 My little children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue; but in deed and in truth. 1 John 3
Here is the condescension, the miracle, the mystery of Divine love, that God would redeem the church with his own blood. Surely we should love those whom God has loved, and so loved. The Holy Spirit, grieved at selfishness, will leave the selfish heart without comfort, and full of darkness and terror. By what can it be known that a man has a true sense of the love of Christ for perishing sinners, or that the love of God has been planted in his heart by the Holy Spirit, if the love of the world and its good overcomes the feelings of compassion to a perishing brother? Every instance of this selfishness must weaken the evidences of a man’s conversion; when habitual and allowed, it must decide against him. If conscience condemn us in known sin, or the neglect of known duty, God does so too. Let conscience therefore be well-informed, be heard, and diligently attended to. Matthew Henry
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VICTORIA (19): ” … If conscience condemn us in known sin, or the neglect of known duty, God does so too. Let conscience therefore be well-informed, be heard, and diligently attended to.” – Matthew Henry
Frank: Yaaay, Victoria … I knew you had it in you! Scripture, sound commentary … the whole ball o’ wax!
So where was this counsel when we were discussing the conscience of the soldier barely a week ago?
Or maybe you don’t believe this counsel applies to soldiers? (Gasp … say it ain’t so!)
(I now return you to the “Moms judging moms” thread, already in progress … )
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(Oops … too early for me to html, apparently … )
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Reg –
At least one of the people I mentioned earlier was a single woman with disabilities & no job. There was also the mother of 4 whose husband couldn’t keep a job for very long. She stayed home with the kids, but God met their needs whether her husband was working or not.
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Karen – 22
There are single family homes where the mother has to work. As a pastor’s daughter, I’ve seen with my own eyes those who have had to work to feed their children, pay the rent. Those who have never observed it on a large scale, may have seen a few cases where a single mother didn’t work, but that’s rare Karen.
Strange how a man’s wife can run off and leave him with children, he continues his job, takes care of the home and kids, but not ONE WORD from the mom’s who stay home with all their pious remarks just for the mother’s who do have to work. DOUBLE STANDARD!
Have you ever visited those who are on WELFARE, who won’t/don’t work, or because of illness cannot work? They live in very dangerous parts of the city, their children are at risk as they go outside, school or anywhere – rape and drugs are what they face everyday.
I haven’t met one man YET, who if his wife leaves him, gives up his job, which more than likely has health insurance, not to mention a salary to go with it.
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Frank
These are TWO different subjects – enough said!
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Victoria – The subject I was addressing was tithing, not working. (See Reg’s comment @ #5, & my response @ #15, if you missed them.)
I agree that the majority of single moms need to work.
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Victoria – I forgot to mention that my #22 was in response to Reg’s #16 (which was in response to my #15
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Karen
I was responding to your post #22. Perhaps I misunderstood what you were saying.
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Karen – I have a soft spot in my heart for women who are compelled to work for any reason, or they have carved out a career which they don’t choose to give up. Many women with careers work shorter hours when they have children, taking a year off for the birth of every child, and then going back.
There are medical doctor’s who work only two or three days a week, the same goes for physical therapists, lawyers, and other professionals — all women — who have chosen not to give up their careers.
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Victoria,
As you wish.
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I’m very judgemental of moms, but that’s because I’m not one and I watch their children on Sundays. It’s hard to keep from getting all superior about my observations–”When I’m a mom, I’l NEVER do THAT!”–so it’s something to pray about. Even so, I enjoy babysitting for the aforementioned moms and not taking any flack from their children.
“Ryan, you cannot prove that your mom lets you do that all the time, and I don’t feel comfortable letting you. So that’s a no, and I don’t want to hear you arguing about it anymore. Now go to bed.”
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Amen, Amy.
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Internet world and the real world are different. People can be quite hateful on commenting on other’s blogs but I don’t think they would be like that in person.
Ayelet Waldman knew (or her editor most likely) knew how to come up with a title that would stir things up and sell books.
Her premise of loving her husband more than her children may seem biblical and virtuous, but it’s really kind of … silly to me. Maybe it’s not her fault at all, since the English language is so limited when it comes to the concept of love.
I don’t love my husband and my children the same way. My love for husband encompasses romance, desire, attraction, etc. My love for my children is a motherly love. (You knew that was coming.)
Maybe there is confusion between love, the emotion, and love, the commitment. I do love my husband passionately, but the commitment I have for my children comes so much more easily. It’s a rare mother who can disown her child, but quite common for a woman to divorce her husband, isn’t it?
It’s like the question that’s supposed to be so hard, but isn’t at all. If you could save your spouse or your child, which one would you save? My husband’s sensible answer: the one I can got to first.
I share Pauline’s experience although I have had my share of not so nice comments. From a previous pastor’s wife when I used the word funner, she asked, “And you homeschool?” And when I talked about how grateful I was to be able to breastfeed, a fellow church member with a baby the same age as mine told me that breastfeeding is “disgusting”. I didn’t counter with anything. Of course her mother didn’t breastfeed her so I can understand where she was coming from.
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Yes, I do homeschool and I don’t always proofread before clicking the post button.
My husband’s real answer was, the one I can get to first.
If Ms Waldman had a homebirth, I believe her first days after her baby’s birth would have been much more pleasant. I’m just speaking from experience here, not deliberately being judgmental. There was such a marked difference between my first hospital birth and my homebirths. And my hospital baby really didn’t look as beautiful because his head was so misshapen from very prolonged and ineffective pushing due to the epidural being too effective.
(Sorry, Rio, if you’re reading this. One of you had to be the first. You have come a long way from the way you looked at birth. You are nearly as handsome as your father now. Unlike Ms Waldman, I was totally smitten with you even before you were born.)
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theselittleones – 33
I believe that home-births are a romantic idea, but there are many hazards attached to them – one of my relatives was pregnant, she had decided that having a child at home was the only way – she almost lost her life, – there were many problems, however a sonogram was never taken, had it been, perhaps the whole situation could have been avoided. The infant had no brain – she had developed eclampsia early on, which worsend, but the home nurse was not educated to understand the emergency – which meant she was rushed by ambulance to a hospital two hours away as she began labor, she could have lost her life, she most certainly lost her child, which would have died anyway, but there was no reason for her life to be in danger.
I don’t believe that home births are a good thing, it might sound like something from ‘Little house on the Prairie’ but when it comes to instant medical intervention we need to take advantage of medical science 2009 rather than 50 – 100 years ago.
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theselittleones – 32
Does the LORD ask us as wives to put our husbands behind our children? Aren’t our husbands the head of the home? – if so, how do they become less important than our children?
YOU WRITE: “I don’t love my husband and my children the same way. My love for husband encompasses romance, desire, attraction, etc. My love for my children is a motherly love. (You knew that was coming.)”
My husband is far more than romance, desire or attraction, he is the man who left his parents to marry me, to protect, love and honor me…. I can’t imagine putting him behind children as though he now takes the last place – does the Bible say that a man holds an inferior place to his children? -
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“People can be quite hateful on commenting on other’s blogs but I don’t think they would be like that in person.” All to win a word argument, which, I believe is something that the Lord’s servant is not to do.
I had all four children born at home with educated midwives. They were all fantastic experiences. You have to have discernment. You have to know the doctors and attitudes in the medical community in which you find yourself. You have to read and ask questions.
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You are drawing lines where they don’t exist. Just let people express themselves.
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In 1934, when my father was born, home births were still fairly common, I think. However my grandmother didn’t have much of a choice. She was on her hands & knees, scrubbing her kitchen floor, when she went into labor. Dad was born there in the kitchen.
Maybe that was a good thing – he never balked from helping Mom in the kitchen.
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Karen,
That hands and knees position is one often recommended by midwives! That’s a neat story about your grandmother.
Thanks for sharing.
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The majority of births would go just fine with well-trained midwives. The problem is that you don’t know before it happens whether you will be one of the exceptions where things go wrong, beyond the midwife’s ability to help.
My older son was born with the umbilical cord wrapped around his neck, and the doctor suddenly twisted my son’s body as he was coming out, so that my husband was about to attack him because it looked like he was going to break our son’s neck. I would hope that a midwife could handle such a situation, but I don’t know whether a typical one could or not.
My younger son was very large (10 lb 9 oz) and his shoulders got stuck. The doctor was considering breaking the collarbone to get him out, but managed to maneuver him around so he came out without having to do that. I had had some difficulties with the pregnancy, but nothing to indicate that the birth would be particularly problematic.
If most births took place at home with a midwife, it would probably cost a great deal less and be less stressful – except for those cases where things went badly wrong and the mother could not get to the hospital fast enough for whatever emergency medical procedure needed to be done. Those families would wish very much they had used the hospital.
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Pauline, I haven’t had any kids, but I determined many years ago that I’d go with a nurse midwife if I ever did. My sister has had her last two with a midwife (not at home, in a clinic), and far prefers it. She drives more than an hour to reach the midwife, it’s that important to her. (Midwives aren’t a legal option in Alabama, so she has to cross the state line.)
What no one ever takes into account is the number of needless injuries and even deaths that are caused by hospital births–it is always simply assumed that a midwife birth is more dangerous, but it really isn’t, and it’s less likely to result in complications. A nurse midwife (which is different than a plain midwife) is more of a specialist in birth than any doctor, and a good midwife will know what she’s getting into with the birth ahead of time. She also will stay with the mother the whole time, as opposed to a doctor, who will rush in only at the last moment, and who is likely to recommend medical interventions for his own convenience and a speedier delivery.
As to the cord around the neck, I hear that example repeatedly. I believe the number is one in four births have the cord wrapped around the neck, so very clearly midwives do indeed know how to deal with that one. And while I have heard of a stillbirth caused by the baby strangling in the womb by such a thing (a friend of mine lost his first nephew this way, within weeks of the due date), I have never heard of a baby killed during birth by its own cord. It probably happens sometimes, but for one in four births to be presented that way, obviously the actual danger is low.
BTW, my sister has large babies with very large heads, and they all deliver upside down (not breach, just face up or face down, whichever is wrong–notably one of the most painful of all deliveries). If she can deliver with a midwife, then pretty much anyone can, as long as it’s a good nurse midwife who has a hospital backup if it becomes necessary.
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Home births–a dear friend of mine giving birth at home with a midwife pushed for four hours with no progress. They sent her to the hospital; she had only been dilated to 6…I don’t think that midwife is practicing anymore!!
What an interesting topic (mommy wars). This is, unfortunately, something that is very prevalent in my church now, and I am sick and tired of it…For the ladies here, the snide remarks center around schooling choice.
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