Comments on: Was there really fraud in Iran?

By: DJ

DJ — Mon, 22 Jun 2009 13:43:10 +0000

Good link Amphipolis. According to the article, the leadership is claiming that it’s not unusual to have over 100% eligible voters cast a ballot because people travel to other cities and vote again. That’s even worse! It sounds like systemic election fraud to me.

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By: Amphipolis

Amphipolis — Mon, 22 Jun 2009 13:08:19 +0000

Iran’s Guardian Council has suggested that the number of votes collected in 50 cities surpass the number of people eligible to cast ballot in those areas.

http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=98711§ionid=351020101

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By: Scroop Moth

Scroop Moth — Mon, 22 Jun 2009 04:14:18 +0000

XION — I don’t think you read #37 closely. If Joel Mark isn’t a neocon with a manichean vew of the world, then he’s been fooling me, and a lot of others on this blog. The leaders of the Islamic Republic are neocons too, according to mainstream American analysts like Zbigniew Brzezinski. The neocons in Iran would like nothing better than for Obama to talk like an American neocon. The ayatollahs claim to be defending humble, devout Iranians from the arrogance and interference of America. They are killing liberals in the streets. And of course, they are casting blame upon opportunistic imperialists like Joel Mark for the bloody repression.

This all seems true. Show otherwise and I’ll acknowledge and correct.

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By: Xion

Xion — Mon, 22 Jun 2009 03:50:29 +0000

#49 Most of you guys don’t give a crap about those people or their struggles

Contrary to what Bush said early on, that was the whole purpose of the Iraq war, to engender freedom and democracy in the world as an example for Iran and others to follow. It is behind the Iranian public’s yearning to be free. What conservative doesn’t support that goal?

They just provide a convenient backdrop for your anti-O refrains (which is the real important thing).

I am not anti-O, I am anti-failure and anti-big government. Every utopian experiment in the history of civilization has failed. Yet social progressives never let that get in their way.

I genuinely like Obama as a person. He is charismatic. I support his goals. But as with all social progressives, his wrong headed implementation will fail to accomplish what he says he wants. We’re here to help.

But worshipful O-bot zombies don’t want success; they want to be loved. And spouting empty rhetoric about creating heaven on earth is music to their adoring ears. Any one who disagrees is simply a heretic who must be silenced.

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By: DJ

DJ — Mon, 22 Jun 2009 01:56:13 +0000

Most of you guys don’t give a crap about those people or their struggles and it shows in your rhetoric. They just provide a convenient backdrop for your anti-O refrains (which is the real important thing). But sing away, maybe someone somewhere wants to hear it.

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By: Xion

Xion — Mon, 22 Jun 2009 01:25:48 +0000

#41 And silly me, I thought all conservatives would actually be glad to see people fighting for their democracy

Name one conservative who isn’t.

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By: DJ

DJ — Sun, 21 Jun 2009 22:42:22 +0000

The repression is an opportunity for Republicans to bash Democrats, for parasites to gratify themselves for free by exploiting the sacrifice of others, and for neo-cons to hawk the same sermons and slogans.

I’m afraid this is proving to be all too accurate in some cases. And silly me, I thought all conservatives would actually be glad to see people fighting for their democracy—- even if that democracy is much different from our own.

Just goes to show how shallow the ‘love’ of freedom really is—especially when it’s someone else’s freedm. But it did make a nice rally cry when Mel Gibson did it: ”Freedom!!!!” Too bad it’s just a slogan.

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By: Xion

Xion — Sun, 21 Jun 2009 20:50:29 +0000

FYI – Totalitarianism is to the extreme left, i.e. maximum government control. Anarchy is to the extreme right, i.e. minimum government control. Communism, Socialism, Fascism etc. are all left wing.

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By: Xion

Xion — Sun, 21 Jun 2009 20:07:59 +0000

#37 Scroop you’ve gone too far. Your comment is not only twisted it is disgusting and highly offensive. You should apologize to to Joel and maybe read a history book.

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By: Xion

Xion — Sun, 21 Jun 2009 20:03:50 +0000

Was there really fraud in Iran?

Ahmadinejad’s landslide victory was announced two hours after the polls closed. How can this be?

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