Comments on: John McCain, George Soros, and a cultural takeover of Iran http://online.worldmag.com/2009/06/22/john-mccain-george-soros-and-a-cultural-takeover-of-iran/ A forum for discussion of news that arises at the intersection of Christianity and culture. Sat, 21 Nov 2009 16:06:14 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: CoyoteBlue http://online.worldmag.com/2009/06/22/john-mccain-george-soros-and-a-cultural-takeover-of-iran/comment-page-1/#comment-437144 CoyoteBlue Tue, 23 Jun 2009 17:28:43 +0000 http://online.worldmag.com/?p=19975#comment-437144 Uhm, Joel, that's what propaganda is -- exploiting people's ignorance with lies. If its decent propaganda it will particularly stroke their fears. In a nationalist country like Iran, this is, I have to agree with HRW's bottom line, crude but effective propaganda. Uhm, Joel, that’s what propaganda is — exploiting people’s ignorance with lies. If its decent propaganda it will particularly stroke their fears. In a nationalist country like Iran, this is, I have to agree with HRW’s bottom line, crude but effective propaganda.

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]]> By: Joel Mark http://online.worldmag.com/2009/06/22/john-mccain-george-soros-and-a-cultural-takeover-of-iran/comment-page-1/#comment-437112 Joel Mark Tue, 23 Jun 2009 16:21:39 +0000 http://online.worldmag.com/?p=19975#comment-437112 HRW, there is exactly ZERO that is believable about raw political lies as seen in that video. It is exploitation of people's ignorance and it has no bearing in anything that smacks of reality. It is not stretched from anything believable, but from previous lies that were also stretched from previous deception that were stretched from former fantasies of repression and tyranny. HRW, there is exactly ZERO that is believable about raw political lies as seen in that video. It is exploitation of people’s ignorance and it has no bearing in anything that smacks of reality. It is not stretched from anything believable, but from previous lies that were also stretched from previous deception that were stretched from former fantasies of repression and tyranny.

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]]> By: CoyoteBlue http://online.worldmag.com/2009/06/22/john-mccain-george-soros-and-a-cultural-takeover-of-iran/comment-page-1/#comment-437002 CoyoteBlue Tue, 23 Jun 2009 11:47:05 +0000 http://online.worldmag.com/?p=19975#comment-437002 NJ Soros' NGO - Open Society Institute, is well know abroad for its programs that support accountability and transparency in government. NGO's like OSI, Freedom House, Human Rights Watch, Amnesty International are lumped in as one in the perception that the USG and its perceived organs are working for regime change. It is unsurprising that intel agencies from other countries would lump these independent non-governmental orgs with US figures. McCain, thought to be abroad, as the inheritor of GW Bush's freedom agenda (read for average foreigner as well as hostile gov'ts - regime change). NJ

Soros’ NGO – Open Society Institute, is well know abroad for its programs that support accountability and transparency in government. NGO’s like OSI, Freedom House, Human Rights Watch, Amnesty International are lumped in as one in the perception that the USG and its perceived organs are working for regime change. It is unsurprising that intel agencies from other countries would lump these independent non-governmental orgs with US figures. McCain, thought to be abroad, as the inheritor of GW Bush’s freedom agenda (read for average foreigner as well as hostile gov’ts – regime change).

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]]> By: hrw http://online.worldmag.com/2009/06/22/john-mccain-george-soros-and-a-cultural-takeover-of-iran/comment-page-1/#comment-436960 hrw Tue, 23 Jun 2009 01:49:39 +0000 http://online.worldmag.com/?p=19975#comment-436960 Creepy -- "the guardians of your information" Every delusion of conspiracy begins with a premise that is believable and then stretches it into tinfoil. In this case there's reference to the color revolutions of Georgia and Ukraine. There's growing evidence to suggest that both groups received training and equipment from US agencies; hence the reference to Gene Sharp. Given that the opposition has chosen a color -- green in this case -- the similarities are enough to sway some individuals. Thus what we see as crude propaganda will be quite effective. Creepy — “the guardians of your information”

Every delusion of conspiracy begins with a premise that is believable and then stretches it into tinfoil. In this case there’s reference to the color revolutions of Georgia and Ukraine. There’s growing evidence to suggest that both groups received training and equipment from US agencies; hence the reference to Gene Sharp. Given that the opposition has chosen a color — green in this case — the similarities are enough to sway some individuals. Thus what we see as crude propaganda will be quite effective.

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]]> By: JBH http://online.worldmag.com/2009/06/22/john-mccain-george-soros-and-a-cultural-takeover-of-iran/comment-page-1/#comment-436877 JBH Mon, 22 Jun 2009 19:11:00 +0000 http://online.worldmag.com/?p=19975#comment-436877 Best line (at 2:29): "Bombarding people with propaganda has always been effective" Best line (at 2:29):

“Bombarding people with propaganda has always been effective”

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]]> By: Joel Mark http://online.worldmag.com/2009/06/22/john-mccain-george-soros-and-a-cultural-takeover-of-iran/comment-page-1/#comment-436838 Joel Mark Mon, 22 Jun 2009 18:13:49 +0000 http://online.worldmag.com/?p=19975#comment-436838 I missed some of the script but it seems overall that they are paranoid about losing credibility and control over their own people, so their strategy is apparently to create fear on false pretenses and keep people living in fear on false pretenses. Line up the usual suspects and demonize, blame and conspire about conspiracies until people can't think straight. Paranoia is the mother of many lies. I missed some of the script but it seems overall that they are paranoid about losing credibility and control over their own people, so their strategy is apparently to create fear on false pretenses and keep people living in fear on false pretenses. Line up the usual suspects and demonize, blame and conspire about conspiracies until people can’t think straight. Paranoia is the mother of many lies.

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]]> By: mynock http://online.worldmag.com/2009/06/22/john-mccain-george-soros-and-a-cultural-takeover-of-iran/comment-page-1/#comment-436829 mynock Mon, 22 Jun 2009 17:53:24 +0000 http://online.worldmag.com/?p=19975#comment-436829 Freaky. I think they give John McCain entirely too much credit. Freaky. I think they give John McCain entirely too much credit.

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]]> By: NJLawyer http://online.worldmag.com/2009/06/22/john-mccain-george-soros-and-a-cultural-takeover-of-iran/comment-page-1/#comment-436828 NJLawyer Mon, 22 Jun 2009 17:52:55 +0000 http://online.worldmag.com/?p=19975#comment-436828 Ya think? This is propaganda. Besides, how did they ever put Soros and McCain together? Ya think?

This is propaganda. Besides, how did they ever put Soros and McCain together?

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]]> By: kBells http://online.worldmag.com/2009/06/22/john-mccain-george-soros-and-a-cultural-takeover-of-iran/comment-page-1/#comment-436822 kBells Mon, 22 Jun 2009 17:36:35 +0000 http://online.worldmag.com/?p=19975#comment-436822 That guy looks nothing like John McCain. I don't think it's really him. That guy looks nothing like John McCain. I don’t think it’s really him.

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