The war within
Every good Christian knows he’s supposed to label himself a sinner and go on in vague terms about his wickedness, so consequently it doesn’t mean much to say that I am a sinful person. Sometimes it can have the inverse effect—the more someone decries his sinfulness, the more an illusion of sainthood is generated. After all, didn’t Saint Paul call himself chief of sinners?
Most of us don’t air our sins in public. This is a good thing. We confess them in private, and I wonder if that fosters the illusion that our evil is localized. What I mean is that wickedness, like love, probably ripples and surges far beyond where we see it. Take one of my recent sins, something small in comparison to other sins of which I stand guilty but that is embarrassing all the same: I made an obscene gesture at another driver. I’ll spare you the details of what he did to earn such ugliness; suffice to say that this gesture was likely invented with people like him—and me—in mind.
Now, I can tell myself that the consequences of that particular sin are limited to the stranger and myself. But that would be a lie. Every act of wickedness has a deadening effect on the soul. After all, this is how we accomplish the searing of our consciences by playing with fire repeatedly. Giving someone the finger is a relatively small thing—so are all sins aside from the “big” ones, the ones we Christians like to rail on with special vigor until we get caught doing them. But do you know how we work our way up to big sin?
What’s more, given this stranger’s driving behavior, he was no more in control of his passions that day than I was. So does he simply ignore my ugly signal and go forward into the lives of others with just as much love as he was carrying before crossing my path? Or does he go forward a little angrier now, a little more cynical about the worth of his fellow man? What effect does this—and a hundred other sins to which he is subjected and in which he participates— have on his marriage, his relationship with his children, the likelihood that he’ll volunteer at a homeless shelter rather than sit on his couch watching television?
We are called to be the body of Christ in the world. I suppose that when we sin we are not simply failing to do that, but instead serving as the body of the evil one. How does the devil accomplish his work in the world? Through my hands, through yours. It’s a dreadful thing to consider, that the very rocks cry out because we daily poison the earth with our sin. It’s so much easier to imagine our transgressions contained, limited, relatively harmless. But we murder the world with them. We murder our souls.
There is no small sin, and not just because of some cosmic debit and credit column. There is no small sin because it travels far beyond the hand of he who commits it. This is why we battle daily. This is why the Christian should never forget that he is at war. Keep fighting.














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“it doesn’t mean much to say that I am a sinful person.”
In my experience, it doesn’t mean much when ANY Christian says it, they still think they’re morally superior to everyone else … and saying they’re “sinners” oftener than most is just part of an act of smug superiority.
Is there really so much difference between “the finger” and a “One Way” sign?
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When I say that I am a sinner, it is certainly not with any air of moral superiority. I am often ashamed of things that I do or say, or of things that I should have said or done and am reminded of my sinfulness. It is at those moments that I am reminded of the grace that God has shown me in salvation – grace to an undeserving sinner. I am reminded every day of the Gospel as I come to understand more and more the depths of my sin.
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I am reminded every day of the Gospel as I come to understand more and more the depths of my sin.
Yes of course – your superior knowledge of sin has led you to your superior gospel.
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What I am talking about is repentance. The knowledge of one’s sin does not lead to arrogance or any sense of superiority, but to shame and repentance.
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StevenL – 4
Repentance doesn’t lead to arrogance, if anything it makes one feel shame over their sin, certainly not arrogance – I agree with you.
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How many times in the Bible does God refer to his children as sinners? How many times in the Bible does God refer to his children as something other than sinner? Something like, saint, godly, righteous, just, etc? Can you guess which one he wants us to focus on? Just deal with you sins, confess them, whatever, but FOCUS on his work, which is in the righteous.
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Reg – Thank you for reminding us that God sees us through the blood of Christ.
BTW, did you see my response to you on the Frank Schaeffer thread? The intent of my first comment to you was not as you took it, & I felt quite bad about inadvertently offending you.
In case you didn’t see it, this is what I wrote…
Reg – My goodness! That was not my intent at all!
I find you an interesting & sensitive person, & often your brief comments pique my curiosity (as in – What does she mean? Where is she “coming from” with that?).
Unfortunately, you often don’t engage in deeper “conversation” here, or instead of explaining your position, you refer to a book. (I did finally read Pagan Christianity just so I could understand what your various, almost cryptic comments were about.)
My above comment to you was not intended as a put-down, but as an observation. We are all products of our experiences, & often those experiences can bias us on certain issues.
I am truly sorry if my comment offended you – it was truly not intended the way you took it.
If it is your wish, I will not engage with you anymore on this blog. But that would be too bad, because in replying to one another we here on WMB often have a chance to either help someone see things from our own perspective, or to learn about other perspectives.
When I respond to you, I am trying to engage you in “conversation”, not merely disagree. But again, I am sorry if I have ever offended you. Twas surely not my intent.
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I’m a little uncomfortable with that “body of the evil one” line; a little to Manichean if you ask me. Otoh, the experience of sin, of having really messed up, leaves me appreciating all the more how tangled my own life is. Perfectionism is a temptation here (if only I would do this or that right..); or I catch myself thinking “my, that was a nice deed you did….” This little idol-making workshop that is my heart keeps working overtime.
I can only pick up the fight by knowing myself. The answer to this realism about myself — what I can do, and how compromised I am in doing it — can only be what Reg said, the blood of Christ.
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It’s strange that you, who grew up in the church, has never met a sincere Christian. Based on my own experiences, though, I’m fairly certain that your experience of what Christians think is based on your own projections onto them rather than what they’re really thinking.
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I grew up in fundamentalism, which meant we had a “list” of sins. It included the obvious ones (no fornication or adultery, no murder, no lying or stealing), but focused on many “lesser” sins, such as drinking or smoking or (for many of them) card playing. And thus the sermons could focus on sins none of us ever committed–because they were such obvious, intentional sins. It’s pretty easy to avoid going to movies; you don’t stumble into that “sin” by accident. Gossip, pride, and all those other sins of the heart were more acceptable, by implication. (We all knew that good Christians didn’t lust, so it wasn’t discussed either.)
My experience as an adult believer has been of going deeper, and dealing with sins of the heart. I’m still careful about what movies I attend, etc., and I have to be happy for my fundamentalist upbringing because it taught me that holiness matters. I can’t wear the immodest clothing that has jumped back into style and is being worn by a huge percentage of women on Sunday morning, and I can’t glibly attend R-rated movies or watch anything and everything on TV. Holiness matters. But holiness is deeper than never attending a movie and never saying a cuss word. I learned the “outward stuff” as a child, and I’m glad I did, because some of it matters. (I’ve dumped a good bit of it that seems contrary to Scripture, but have kept things like modesty that really do matter.) It’s only as an adult that I’ve learned the deeper issues, the heart issues, and in the process learned (as just one lesson) that when I felt smug that I’d never committed some sin, that smugness was pride, and it was potentially a bigger sin that whatever the other person was confessing and having forgiven, while I was NOT confessing my pride and not having it forgiven!
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I have found freedom in discovering the Eastern Orthodox understanding that God isn’t (and wasn’t ever) moved to anger by our sin, but instead isn’t (and wasn’t) moved to love and compassion. Our sin doesn’t produce guilt, it produces death. So instead of facing God’s wrath because of my sin (a judicial approach), I instead face his mercy and love (a therapeutic approach; therapeutic meaning curative). Scripture clearly tells us this is Who God is: Love.
This was a quote in a link SteveG posted in Seu’s post about Canon (#64): “Daily sins are more than moral infractions; they are revelations of the brokenness of human life and evidence of personal struggle. Repentance means rejecting death and uniting ourselves to life.”
Here’s the link to what SteveG posted:
http://www.antiochian.org/assets/asset_manager/da42e6049df1d08bff1865c1ac19e759.pdf
(Sorry about the long link; I *think* I know how to hyperlink a word but don’t want to mess it up, lol.)
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*Bah* I miswrote the first paragraph above: It should read, “but instead is (and was) moved to love and compassion.”
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Tony,
I agree that it doesn’t mean much to say that you’re a sinner, but it’s another thing entirely to recognize in yourself that you are a sinner. Every time I attend Liturgy, I call out in prayer that I am chief among sinners, but do I really believe it? Maybe sometimes. A wise and holy man I know told me that each time I approach this phrase in prayer to call to mind all the saints, depicted in images around me, and compare my righteousness to theirs. When I am actually humble enough to put his advice into practice, I find myself face-to-face with the reality of my chiefness among sinners but, given my pride, this is the exception rather than the rule. God forgive me.
From Saint Isaac the Syrian:
“He who has been able to see himself has accomplished more than one who has seen the angels.”
“One who apprehends his sin is better than one who through his prayers raises the dead.”
From Bishop Ignaty Brianchaninov: “In order to live spiritually and draw breath from grace, we must continually exhale the ashes of sin.”
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Doesn’t Victoria follow the holiness doctrine (Roy Masters who is not orthodox, follows it as well) that holds once you are saved you no longer sin, that that is what salvation is all about, to stop sinning?
If that’s the correct interpretation of the Bible, then it’s wrong to say, “[e]very good Christian knows he’s supposed to label himself a sinner….” Some Christians will say, “I was a sinner, but no longer am, now that I am saved.”
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Another question, is drinking a sin? If drinking is not a sin, but drunkenness is, how do you draw the line between the two?
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I dunno JR, how does the legal Blood Alcohol level sound?
If your already asking where can I draw the line, its really the wrong question. Cause the underlying intent is to go as far as you can without “sinning”.
Too much alchool, is like too much food, its gluttonous, but that level varies from individual to individual.
Also, why do you need to drink alcohol, when there are plenty of other options like water?
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I dunno, the lack of public confession of sin (and by public I dont necessarily mean in front of the congregation), has a tendency to pose Christians as hypocritical and gives us the impression that no one else struggles with sin.
Church often becomes a place of hiding, where even those who are most struggling are afraid to confess, because no one else does, and everyone else seems…perfect/holy.
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“I dunno JR, how does the legal Blood Alcohol level sound?”
In terms of driving, if one is a Christian (of the orthodox, the Bible is infallible sense) one has a moral duty to obey government (providing govt. doesn’t directly command you to sin). So when you get behind the wheel of a car, you have a duty to obey every traffic ordinance. But if you are at home, why is .08 (the dominant standard) v. .10 (what used to be the dominant standard) relevant. The law says you can get as drunk as you want at home, provided you don’t get behind the wheel of a car.
As a non-Christian, I’ll stay below the .08 limit because 1) I want to be safe to drive, and 2) I don’t want to face the legal consequences of a DUI.
I don’t see anything wrong with the pleasures of drunkeness, however.
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“Also, why do you need to drink alcohol, when there are plenty of other options like water?”
That’s a good question. I don’t need to drink. I’ve gone long periods of time in my adult life without drinking (mainly because I wanted my seratonin levels in my brain to be as high as possible, and alcohol lowers it). But I do drink because I like to drink and that’s reason enough in itself for me.
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