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		<title>By: ndk</title>
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		<dc:creator>ndk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 12:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love reading Andree Seu! Every word and phrase. But I&#039;ve not yet tasted a well-done porterhouse stake.:&gt;) No matter, thanks for the moral realism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love reading Andree Seu! Every word and phrase. But I&#8217;ve not yet tasted a well-done porterhouse stake.:&gt;) No matter, thanks for the moral realism.
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		<title>By: SteveG</title>
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		<dc:creator>SteveG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 02:32:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s interesting that this post went up on the same day that the Whirled Views quote was: &lt;i&gt;“Hypocrisy desires to seem good rather than to be so; honesty desires to be good rather than seem so.”&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s interesting that this post went up on the same day that the Whirled Views quote was: <i>“Hypocrisy desires to seem good rather than to be so; honesty desires to be good rather than seem so.”</i>
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		<title>By: Scroop Moth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scroop Moth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 01:05:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ANDRÉE SEU&#039;s at least did not praise hypocrisy as a virtue.  Hypocrisy is both comically inevitable and tragically indispensable for moral education.

The problem with that thesis is that hypocrisy creates dishonesty rather than moral clarity, increases harm, and morality doesn&#039;t depend on the transmission of absolute rules.  We&#039;ve tried a society based on the utility of hypocrisy.  It&#039;s called the Victorian Age and it doesn&#039;t hold up to scrutiny.   

In my experience honesty is the best protection against burns.  The danger of hypocrisy is the confusion between what one thinks one should believe and what one really believes.  There is no virtue at all in confusion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ANDRÉE SEU&#8217;s at least did not praise hypocrisy as a virtue.  Hypocrisy is both comically inevitable and tragically indispensable for moral education.</p>
<p>The problem with that thesis is that hypocrisy creates dishonesty rather than moral clarity, increases harm, and morality doesn&#8217;t depend on the transmission of absolute rules.  We&#8217;ve tried a society based on the utility of hypocrisy.  It&#8217;s called the Victorian Age and it doesn&#8217;t hold up to scrutiny.   </p>
<p>In my experience honesty is the best protection against burns.  The danger of hypocrisy is the confusion between what one thinks one should believe and what one really believes.  There is no virtue at all in confusion.
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		<title>By: Frank in Spokane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank in Spokane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 00:06:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm. Has Rush been reading Doug Wilson?&lt;blockquote&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dougwils.com/index.asp?Action=Anchor&amp;CategoryID=1&amp;BlogID=6691&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Making Hypocrisy Possible is a Cultural Virtue&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

Paul Begala has said that the GOP should stop lecturing everybody about sex -- because of the hypocrisy recently manifested in the behavior of Sen. Ensign and Gov. Sanford. But this overlooks the important role of hypocrisy in every decent society. As it has been well observed, hypocrisy is the tribute that vice pays to virtue. When virtue is publicly honored, there will be those who do not live up to that standard but who nevertheless want to [be] &lt;i&gt;known&lt;/i&gt; as men who live up to it. As long as we have a fallen world, and we honor what we ought to honor -- marital fidelity, say -- we will have this problem.

It is no solution at all to remove the discrepancy the way the left has done, which is by dropping the honor of virtue. This is what Begala in essence is saying. But it is a &lt;i&gt;good&lt;/i&gt; thing that there are still political parties and regions of the country where you can wreck your public life by what you do in private. It was no virtue for Gov. Sanford to head off to Argentina, but it was a cultural virtue that made going to Argentina necessary.

But there is a lesson for randy Republicans in this. Stop trying to save the country without explicit and ongoing dependence on Jesus Christ. If Jesus Christ is not Lord over all, then Begala is right.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Either that, or he simply realizes, along with Wilson and myriad others, that where there is virtue, hypocrisy will always be nearby.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm. Has Rush been reading Doug Wilson?<br />
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<p><a href="http://www.dougwils.com/index.asp?Action=Anchor&amp;CategoryID=1&amp;BlogID=6691" rel="nofollow"><b>Making Hypocrisy Possible is a Cultural Virtue</b></a></p>
<p>Paul Begala has said that the GOP should stop lecturing everybody about sex &#8212; because of the hypocrisy recently manifested in the behavior of Sen. Ensign and Gov. Sanford. But this overlooks the important role of hypocrisy in every decent society. As it has been well observed, hypocrisy is the tribute that vice pays to virtue. When virtue is publicly honored, there will be those who do not live up to that standard but who nevertheless want to [be] <i>known</i> as men who live up to it. As long as we have a fallen world, and we honor what we ought to honor &#8212; marital fidelity, say &#8212; we will have this problem.</p>
<p>It is no solution at all to remove the discrepancy the way the left has done, which is by dropping the honor of virtue. This is what Begala in essence is saying. But it is a <i>good</i> thing that there are still political parties and regions of the country where you can wreck your public life by what you do in private. It was no virtue for Gov. Sanford to head off to Argentina, but it was a cultural virtue that made going to Argentina necessary.</p>
<p>But there is a lesson for randy Republicans in this. Stop trying to save the country without explicit and ongoing dependence on Jesus Christ. If Jesus Christ is not Lord over all, then Begala is right.</p></blockquote>
<p>Either that, or he simply realizes, along with Wilson and myriad others, that where there is virtue, hypocrisy will always be nearby.
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		<title>By: Random Name</title>
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		<dc:creator>Random Name</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 22:30:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I listen to Rush Limbaugh once in a while. Does that make me one smart dude?

Actually, I think Rush Limbaugh is a very intlligent man. They&#039;re is nothing about being smarmy or about being a demagogue that is incompatible with being intelligent.

I am sure Bernard Madoff, for example, is a very smart man. What did he use all those smarts for?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I listen to Rush Limbaugh once in a while. Does that make me one smart dude?</p>
<p>Actually, I think Rush Limbaugh is a very intlligent man. They&#8217;re is nothing about being smarmy or about being a demagogue that is incompatible with being intelligent.</p>
<p>I am sure Bernard Madoff, for example, is a very smart man. What did he use all those smarts for?
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		<title>By: hrw</title>
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		<dc:creator>hrw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 22:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would think hypocrisy damages moral values as does breaching values without consequences. Comparing Rush to Mordecai and Paul stretches the legitimacy of anything the columnists has to say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would think hypocrisy damages moral values as does breaching values without consequences. Comparing Rush to Mordecai and Paul stretches the legitimacy of anything the columnists has to say.
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		<title>By: Chas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 20:27:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NOPM, Andree is one smart woman.  I&#039;m not surprised that she listens to Rush.  :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NOPM, Andree is one smart woman.  I&#8217;m not surprised that she listens to Rush.  <img src='http://online.worldmag.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />
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		<title>By: Allen Wrench</title>
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		<dc:creator>Allen Wrench</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 20:10:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Andrée Seu&#039;s and others&#039; comments about Mark Sanford.

Gerard Baker, writing in the Wall Street Journal, June 26, under the head &quot;Infidelity is no longer a career-killer for politicians.  But weirdness, mendacity and ineptitude just might be,&quot; says (in an excerpted quote):

&lt;i&gt;This suggests that the issue of personal behavior may have lost its force as a negative factor in politics, but it still clearly has the power to be a positive one. Infidelity and sexual misdemeanors may not kill a political career, but an impression of faithfulness and decency can still help one. It should be remembered too, that while character matters, voters seem prepared to see sexual failures as only one part of the character issue. There’s no particular reason that other traits such as personal courage, hard work or humility should matter less in a political career than the sexual fidelity of a candidate.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Andrée Seu&#8217;s and others&#8217; comments about Mark Sanford.</p>
<p>Gerard Baker, writing in the Wall Street Journal, June 26, under the head &#8220;Infidelity is no longer a career-killer for politicians.  But weirdness, mendacity and ineptitude just might be,&#8221; says (in an excerpted quote):</p>
<p><i>This suggests that the issue of personal behavior may have lost its force as a negative factor in politics, but it still clearly has the power to be a positive one. Infidelity and sexual misdemeanors may not kill a political career, but an impression of faithfulness and decency can still help one. It should be remembered too, that while character matters, voters seem prepared to see sexual failures as only one part of the character issue. There’s no particular reason that other traits such as personal courage, hard work or humility should matter less in a political career than the sexual fidelity of a candidate.</i>
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		<title>By: Random Name</title>
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		<dc:creator>Random Name</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 19:00:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Their is an old cliche about if a tree falls in the woods is there a sound if no one hears it?

I am trying to rephrase this to describe if a person engages in self-righteous condemnations of other groups and never examines his own group...?

Even if he mouths cliches about &quot;we are all fallen,&quot; but never means very much by it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Their is an old cliche about if a tree falls in the woods is there a sound if no one hears it?</p>
<p>I am trying to rephrase this to describe if a person engages in self-righteous condemnations of other groups and never examines his own group&#8230;?</p>
<p>Even if he mouths cliches about &#8220;we are all fallen,&#8221; but never means very much by it?
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		<title>By: Sawgunner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sawgunner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 17:22:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read an interesting take on adultery over at WSJ&#039;s opinion journal. The former Brit PM John Major (who followed after Thatcher) concealed his affair from voters. The gyst of the article was that had the Brit voters known their dullard PM was actually some type of red hot lover they might have re-elected him

Asa Hutchison&#039;s affair was compounded by his strong role as &quot;house impeachment manager&quot; in the Clinton Zippergate scandal.
John Tower was a drunkard and a flirt but I dont think he cheated on any woman to whom he was currently married.
Good Time Charlie Wilson epitomized the carefree DC bachelor as depicted in the fab film by Tom Hanks.

Since we now have campaign finance deform (the Incumbent Protection Act as some term it) the blatant adultery is the only thing we term limits enthusiasts have to help kick the dastards out of the congress. And yes, some constituencies seem not to care, ie Barney Frank&#039;s and Sen Vitter&#039;s.
If I recall correctly Vitter&#039;s wife had harsh things to say along the lines of &quot;If I ever learned my husband was..&quot; during the Clinton imbroglio. She came across as more hypocrticial than did Senator Vitter</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read an interesting take on adultery over at WSJ&#8217;s opinion journal. The former Brit PM John Major (who followed after Thatcher) concealed his affair from voters. The gyst of the article was that had the Brit voters known their dullard PM was actually some type of red hot lover they might have re-elected him</p>
<p>Asa Hutchison&#8217;s affair was compounded by his strong role as &#8220;house impeachment manager&#8221; in the Clinton Zippergate scandal.<br />
John Tower was a drunkard and a flirt but I dont think he cheated on any woman to whom he was currently married.<br />
Good Time Charlie Wilson epitomized the carefree DC bachelor as depicted in the fab film by Tom Hanks.</p>
<p>Since we now have campaign finance deform (the Incumbent Protection Act as some term it) the blatant adultery is the only thing we term limits enthusiasts have to help kick the dastards out of the congress. And yes, some constituencies seem not to care, ie Barney Frank&#8217;s and Sen Vitter&#8217;s.<br />
If I recall correctly Vitter&#8217;s wife had harsh things to say along the lines of &#8220;If I ever learned my husband was..&#8221; during the Clinton imbroglio. She came across as more hypocrticial than did Senator Vitter
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