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		<title>By: Scroop Moth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scroop Moth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 04:09:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>XION = You may know more about this than I, but it&#039;s obvious that the NYTimes didn&#039;t break the story about the soldier.  They made public information available to their own readers, which is different.  In the case of their kidnapped reporter, the NYTimes had the power to keep the secret.  

Further, it&#039;s easier to keep a reporter from becoming a high-stakes international incident than a soldier.  A newspaper can abandon their asset.  The US Military is powerless &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; to abandon its personnel.  

You can&#039;t infer from the spokeswoman&#039;s reticence that the military was opposed to the AP story.  Sometimes official sources are willing for unofficial sources to talk.  If that was not the case, the AP would have told us that the military requested an embargo, and they decided to disregard it.  Anyway, the Afghan police were talking and the AP might have determined that the name of the province was common knowledge. That information also could have come from defense sources.  Maybe the AP had already been scooped by the Pakistani press, or Le Monde.  

I don&#039;t see a tort.  I think y&#039;all just picking a fight with the NYT</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>XION = You may know more about this than I, but it&#8217;s obvious that the NYTimes didn&#8217;t break the story about the soldier.  They made public information available to their own readers, which is different.  In the case of their kidnapped reporter, the NYTimes had the power to keep the secret.  </p>
<p>Further, it&#8217;s easier to keep a reporter from becoming a high-stakes international incident than a soldier.  A newspaper can abandon their asset.  The US Military is powerless <i>not</i> to abandon its personnel.  </p>
<p>You can&#8217;t infer from the spokeswoman&#8217;s reticence that the military was opposed to the AP story.  Sometimes official sources are willing for unofficial sources to talk.  If that was not the case, the AP would have told us that the military requested an embargo, and they decided to disregard it.  Anyway, the Afghan police were talking and the AP might have determined that the name of the province was common knowledge. That information also could have come from defense sources.  Maybe the AP had already been scooped by the Pakistani press, or Le Monde.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see a tort.  I think y&#8217;all just picking a fight with the NYT
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		<title>By: Harris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 02:57:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just in the interest of fairness, Monty, but who exactly did you have in mind with the following?

&lt;i&gt;Again it seems that liberals enjoy it if soldiers are captured&lt;/i&gt;

That&#039;s the kind of sloppy wording (and thinking) that I suspect you don&#039;t tolerate elsewhere in your life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just in the interest of fairness, Monty, but who exactly did you have in mind with the following?</p>
<p><i>Again it seems that liberals enjoy it if soldiers are captured</i></p>
<p>That&#8217;s the kind of sloppy wording (and thinking) that I suspect you don&#8217;t tolerate elsewhere in your life.
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		<title>By: kwatson</title>
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		<dc:creator>kwatson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 22:29:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Monty #17, That&#039;s some truly nasty slander you&#039;re slinging there. You are by far one of the most over the top hateful commenters. I&#039;m praying for you. It&#039;s not your fault; you&#039;re under the sway of all the right-wing hate-mongers that dominate conservatives&#039; preferred media outlets. The only way they gain legitimacy is by making the faithful believe that everything else they hear is a lie and evil. Conservatives apparently won&#039;t be happy until everything is as rightwing as Fox. I know that would make you happy, but if it where to come to pass, we would be a much poorer, stupider, nation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Monty #17, That&#8217;s some truly nasty slander you&#8217;re slinging there. You are by far one of the most over the top hateful commenters. I&#8217;m praying for you. It&#8217;s not your fault; you&#8217;re under the sway of all the right-wing hate-mongers that dominate conservatives&#8217; preferred media outlets. The only way they gain legitimacy is by making the faithful believe that everything else they hear is a lie and evil. Conservatives apparently won&#8217;t be happy until everything is as rightwing as Fox. I know that would make you happy, but if it where to come to pass, we would be a much poorer, stupider, nation.
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		<title>By: Xion</title>
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		<dc:creator>Xion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 20:42:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#16  Scroop.  So why the different standards then between military personnel and a reporter?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#16  Scroop.  So why the different standards then between military personnel and a reporter?
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		<title>By: montyfisherwoof</title>
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		<dc:creator>montyfisherwoof</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 19:41:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Again it seems that liberals enjoy it if soldiers are captured. They are the ones defending the NYT. One has to wonder why the liberals are so morally bankrupct. Shame again on them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again it seems that liberals enjoy it if soldiers are captured. They are the ones defending the NYT. One has to wonder why the liberals are so morally bankrupct. Shame again on them.
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		<title>By: Scroop Moth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scroop Moth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 19:20:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;detailed the whereabouts of the soldier when he disappeared&lt;/b&gt;

Since the Afghan Police are talking about it and apparently involved, the disclosure of the &quot;Mullakheil area&quot; hardly seems to be much of a secret -- or very much detail.

All of the information in the AP story was sourced to the named spokeswoman and to &quot;two U.S. defense sources&quot; (whose information must have confirmed the &quot;whereabouts&quot; of the disappearance).

The AP does not report that the military requested embargo.  

Since the AP had the story, the NYTimes had no power to keep it a secret. The military should not get to have the whole say over the difference between safety and embarrassment.  Let&#039;s criticize the NYTimes for its real failings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>detailed the whereabouts of the soldier when he disappeared</b></p>
<p>Since the Afghan Police are talking about it and apparently involved, the disclosure of the &#8220;Mullakheil area&#8221; hardly seems to be much of a secret &#8212; or very much detail.</p>
<p>All of the information in the AP story was sourced to the named spokeswoman and to &#8220;two U.S. defense sources&#8221; (whose information must have confirmed the &#8220;whereabouts&#8221; of the disappearance).</p>
<p>The AP does not report that the military requested embargo.  </p>
<p>Since the AP had the story, the NYTimes had no power to keep it a secret. The military should not get to have the whole say over the difference between safety and embarrassment.  Let&#8217;s criticize the NYTimes for its real failings.
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		<title>By: ItsAboutFreedom</title>
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		<dc:creator>ItsAboutFreedom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 19:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the whole question is why is it okay to publish a report about a soldier being captured but not a reporter?  It is a double standard and it has nothing to do with reporting where he was captured.  It has to do with the fact that the NYT, AP and other publications take great delight in reporting anything bad happening to American soldiers but when it comes to their own, they close ranks.  I think it is because they don&#039;t see soldiers as &quot;their&quot; own even though the soldiers are the reason that reporters are able to be free enough to report.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the whole question is why is it okay to publish a report about a soldier being captured but not a reporter?  It is a double standard and it has nothing to do with reporting where he was captured.  It has to do with the fact that the NYT, AP and other publications take great delight in reporting anything bad happening to American soldiers but when it comes to their own, they close ranks.  I think it is because they don&#8217;t see soldiers as &#8220;their&#8221; own even though the soldiers are the reason that reporters are able to be free enough to report.
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		<title>By: Xion</title>
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		<dc:creator>Xion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 16:06:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#12 HRW &lt;i&gt;The question remains why pick on NYT and not AP &lt;/i&gt;

The answer is very simple: because the NYT published it!!  The AP simply made the story available, but the NYT made it widely available to the public.

Are you saying that the NYT has no responsibility whatsoever for anything they publish as long as they didn&#039;t write it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#12 HRW <i>The question remains why pick on NYT and not AP </i></p>
<p>The answer is very simple: because the NYT published it!!  The AP simply made the story available, but the NYT made it widely available to the public.</p>
<p>Are you saying that the NYT has no responsibility whatsoever for anything they publish as long as they didn&#8217;t write it?
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		<title>By: Michael Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 15:53:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>KWatson (#5):

Think logically.

Neither you nor I know all of the reasons why it is important NOT to release details.  As you have stated, obviously the enemy/kidnappers know where the capture occurred, but there must be other information and details, the release of which further jeopardizes victim&#039;s safety.  The best course, &lt;B&gt;if one really cares about the victim&lt;/B&gt;, is to follow the directions of those who really know what is going on and who are responsible for getting the soldier back alive, if at all possible.  That&#039;s the logical thing to do if one is at all concerned about the soldier&#039;s safety. 

The important point here is that the &lt;I&gt;NY Times&lt;/I&gt; refuses to cooperate with the military and thus disregards the safety of the soldier.   They just don&#039;t give a damn.  On the other hand, when one of their people is in a similar situation, they do everything they can to cooperate and work for the safe return of their employee.  

This is by no means the first occurrence of the &lt;I&gt;Times&lt;/I&gt; demonstrating their hypocrisy and disdain for the safety of American soldiers.  At other times they have deliberately published information compromising our intelligence operations and endangering the lives of both Americans and foreign nationals. 

The financial troubles of the &lt;I&gt;Times&lt;/I&gt; is a well known fact, and many believe that it is partly due to their diminishing reader base.  Are people abandoning the &lt;I&gt;Times&lt;/I&gt; because of their increasingly anti-American posture?  I sure hope so.   

As I said before, the sooner this morally bankrupt newspaper goes out of business, the better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KWatson (#5):</p>
<p>Think logically.</p>
<p>Neither you nor I know all of the reasons why it is important NOT to release details.  As you have stated, obviously the enemy/kidnappers know where the capture occurred, but there must be other information and details, the release of which further jeopardizes victim&#8217;s safety.  The best course, <b>if one really cares about the victim</b>, is to follow the directions of those who really know what is going on and who are responsible for getting the soldier back alive, if at all possible.  That&#8217;s the logical thing to do if one is at all concerned about the soldier&#8217;s safety. </p>
<p>The important point here is that the <i>NY Times</i> refuses to cooperate with the military and thus disregards the safety of the soldier.   They just don&#8217;t give a damn.  On the other hand, when one of their people is in a similar situation, they do everything they can to cooperate and work for the safe return of their employee.  </p>
<p>This is by no means the first occurrence of the <i>Times</i> demonstrating their hypocrisy and disdain for the safety of American soldiers.  At other times they have deliberately published information compromising our intelligence operations and endangering the lives of both Americans and foreign nationals. </p>
<p>The financial troubles of the <i>Times</i> is a well known fact, and many believe that it is partly due to their diminishing reader base.  Are people abandoning the <i>Times</i> because of their increasingly anti-American posture?  I sure hope so.   </p>
<p>As I said before, the sooner this morally bankrupt newspaper goes out of business, the better.
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		<title>By: hrw</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 15:49:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Xion 
The AP is responsible for this article not the NYT or other media who merely picked it up from the news wire. The question remains why pick on NYT and not AP</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Xion<br />
The AP is responsible for this article not the NYT or other media who merely picked it up from the news wire. The question remains why pick on NYT and not AP
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