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Good morning everyone. I will be working at the beach today and tomorrow. Hope I am busy. Fireworks will be tomorrow night off the beach so there is an upside. I won’t have to deal with traffic to get there.
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Mickey, nobody knows the answer to yesterday’s quote. Nobody got coffee.
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Kim, I hope you’re busy selling something. But enjoy the beach too. Tough Job!
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I am enjoying the freedom quotes. Thanks.
Today’s quote reminded me that the Declaration of Independence, great as it was, was a “claim” on freedom. And I admire all who signed it. But one man was not around to sign it because he was out on the field with his life directly on the line fighting for it–General George Washington.
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CHAS: Joel Mark guessed it correctly. My wife just brought me a piping hot cup of coffee.
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Yesterday’s quote was by Vice President Cheney, see post #7. And my coffee is by my side as I type (smile). But I don’t know today’s quote.
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Google says its from William Faulkner.
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The jobless numbers continue to rise and the “stimulus package” continues not to have an effect. And it looks like getting worse before it gets better because of the impending layoffs from the auto manufacturers. (And they are not the only ones laying off large numbers.) I wonder how long it’s going to take before the Democrats finally realize that they need to get off the private sectors back, instead of saddling us all with even more debt?
The buncha dummies shoulda lowered the corporate tax rate. That should have been the first darn thing they did. Now after everyone has lost their job, it’s like closing the barn door after the horses have disappeared over the horizon.
Of course the usual suspects will argue with me that the government is doing what they should have done… And ask how lowering the tax rate is going to help.
Well geee… I dunno, what would you do with a few extra bazillion dollars right now if you were several million businessmen? Invest in machinery to automate? Hire your workers back? Improve your business? Spend money to make money? Produce more product and sell it to China? (China is buying up all the steel and concrete right now.)
I can think of all kinds of ways the private sector could be improving the economy by keeping that extra tax money.
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Richard Feynman on doubt, uncertainty, and religion:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeCHiUe1et0
“I don’t feel frightened by not knowing.”
Please pay special attention to what Feynman says about Jeebus, which he calls “one of the aspects of God”.
THINK.
Thinking can be very rewarding and it won’t kill you.
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My paper reports today that GWB will attend (and speak) at the July 4th festivities in the small town of Woodward, Oklahoma (pop. 12,000) tomorrow. He was asked by the event’s promoter who thought no way would GWB go to such a small place; he almost added alternate dates. He got an answer in two weeks. One storeowner is extremely happy, saying that “it shows his character….he’s not too good for the common people.”
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Who gave man the ability to think? Think about that!
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Nobody. Virtually all animals think. The human ape species doesn’t have a monopoly on thinking, and our evolved brain had nothing to do with your idiotic magic man idea.
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My point earlier was – try thinking instead of acting like robots.
Doubt everything, including your god-ape Jeebus.
To get started, watch the video a few times until it sinks into your tiny defective brainwashed brains.
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Well who wrote the laws of logic that allow us to think? Animals sure didn’t
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MIM “The bunch of dummies…..”
They know exactly what they’re doing. They will destroy the free market system that made America great and nationalize everything they can until/if America gets wise.
Get even for slavery, colonialism and killing all the buffalo and carrier pigeons.
I see Ed has returned with a vengence.
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BoBXXXX: Thinking the wrong things can kill both body and soul. Believing there is no soul when there is one, doesn’t make it so. Anyone who thinks human beings are just animals needs lots of prayer. You have my sympathy and prayers.
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I thought we had all agreed a while back not to respond to BobXXXX/Ed and just quietly pray for him instead.
Awstar, my advice in dealing with BobXXXX/Ed is to go outside, locate your nearest fencepost, and argue up a blue streak with it. You will get a lot better response and not be so frustrated in the end.
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Please don’t feed the trolls.
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Chas – They killed the carrier pigeons?!
Mickey – So just how hot is “piping hot”? Is that a “just right” kind of hot or a “burn your tongue” kind of hot?
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Karen, They did kill the carrier pigeons. They used the plumes for ladies hats. When they didn’t have any more plumes, ladies stopped wearing hats.
Part of the above statement is true.
Only a Yankee would not know what “piping hot” is.
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NO! It wasn’t carrier pigeons!
Somebody help me. What bird was it that is extinct because they killed them for feathers to put in ladies hats?
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CHAS, Maybe it was the passenger pigeon.
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Woe is me!
First, the “evildoers” take my birthday and make it into an international holiday, “Earth Day.”
Next, Bobxxx takes my name and profanes God’s name under it.
Two woes! What will be the next woe?
Please Lord, use Bill or George or Sue! Anything but Bob!
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You can listen to my interview from the Infidel Guy from last night here (if you missed it last night):
http://www.infidelguy.com/
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Kim @#17- ROFL! I’ll have to try your advice.
Bob Buckles: I sympathize with you. I cringed whenever Nick Peters was around, profaning my first name with his quasi-bigoted diatribes.
Here is my favorite independence quote (I do not know who originated it, nor if I have it correct):
We are not independent until we realize our total dependence on God.
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Message to the complaint department: WORLD Mag, NOW you have done it! I went to the political cartoons for the July 4 issue, and saw the one with Governor Sanford singing “Don’t cry for me Argentina.” Now I cannot get that song out of my head!
A little background: I once showed the musical from which it originated to my Spanish class, and the song was stuck in my head for six moinths! Now it is back! Time to start humming “Girl from Iponema”!
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Happy 3rd of July.
I’m working today, doing a story on all the preparation that goes into putting on some the bigger fireworks shows in our local cities. My first stop in about 2 hours will be the beach (like Kim!), where they’re going to be constructing a stage where the local pops orchestra will set up to play as the fireworks go off tomorrow night.
Did a couple phone interviews yesterday, so I already have a head start. Hopefully no big crime or mishaps will take place in the meantime today, which always makes working the holiday shift much more complicated (and typically longer).
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Bobxxxx notwithstanding, the link he put up is a great riff, by a great thinker. Bobxxxx/Ed should pay attention to his own link
At least Feynman comes across and an honest and gentle man. When he spode of an aspect of God coming to earth being too local, too provicial, I thought about how that indredulity produces in me the most wonder and worship.
In my atheist days I took Feynman at his word and approached every religion like they got it all wong. But in the mystery I found the mystical. I didn’t find simplistic answers and I carry much doubt. Life is not as easy as any of us want to make it, but I’m glad that in my “not knowing” God carries me.
Thanks for the link and the think Ed!
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Chas – Don’t worry; this little Yankee knows what piping hot is. I was just bein’ silly.
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I don’t think it’s a good thing that Mickey got the coffee from his wife for someone else getting the right answer about the quote. Something seems off there, whether the coffee is piping hot or not. (Not that I begrudge him a cup of hot coffee.)
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It’s 1980 all over again:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,529957,00.html?test=latestnews
Where’s Ronald Reagan?
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I believe you are talking about the Carolina Parakeet. the only parakeet native to the US.
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DEET, passinger pigeon it was. I didn’t know about the Carolina Parakeet, but I heard it was the passinger pigeon.
I wasn’t thinking the first time. The second time, it occurred to me as soon as I hit “post” -not “carrier”.
The bad part about all of this is that everyone now knows that I can be mistaken.
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When Barack Obama changed the current policy on stem cell research, he falsely gloated that he was restoring “science to its rightful place.”
Who, pray tell, had removed science from it’s “rightful place” and how is it that Obama is now the messianic savior not merely of all his little children (U.S. citizens), but also of science itself?
Why can’t liberals just disagree honorably with their opponents instead of pretending disingenuously that they are (by implication) dethroners or destroyers of science and decency and anything else that leftists dream up? It is arroagant to the point of indecency to claim such a salvivic role for oneself simply by making up evil things about your opponents.
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Mickey will, no doubt, come on here and delete so nobody need ever no. Of course, that won’t keep us in days to come from reminding each other of the day Chas was WRONG. Not that we would do that…
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know, not no, Mickey, you might want to fix that…
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For the sake of syntax (and understanding), a rephrasing of the third paragraph above:
Why can’t liberals just disagree honorably with their opponents instead of pretending disingenuously in wildly messianic terms and tones that their opponents are (by implication) dethroners or destroyers of science and decency and anything else that leftists dream up? It is arroagant to the point of indecency to claim such a salvivic role for oneself simply by making up evil implication about your opponents.
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Did Mumsee make a misteak somewhare?
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I new it, just gnu it.
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JoelMark: Sorry, but if you read your re-phrase you will see that only the original made sense.
PeterL: We are not independent until we realize our total dependence on God
Nope, you are not independent until you
a)realize that you are the only one who can understand your god.
or
b)give your god up, and do what you think is best.
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This just in:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/07/03/palin-opts-run-second-term-alaska-governor/
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NJL – I just read it on DRUDGE – I wonder why she believes it important to throw her bid in so early, certainly there is much work to be done in Alaska – this doesn’t make sense – I’m sure there is more to this story, however it seems very premature indeed.
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I can’t believe it. Our resident liberals were defending the administrations intent not to even read the bills currently being passed, and now they’re defending passing bills in which portions haven’t even been written yet….
I wonder if they have some Yale and Harvard grads who can read the future fine print?
I can’t watch this crap anymore…
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NJL: Where’s Ronald Reagan?
Where, indeed.
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Michael Jackson reportedly died after receiving propofol at home. Propofol is a general anesthetic. How in the world did that happen?
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Stubob: As far as I know, any MD can write a ’scrip for it. You won’t likely find it in your hometown pharmacy though…
The story I heard, third hand, was that the doc at the scene was hired full time by the tour promoter at Jackson’s insistence. The company apparently said it was paying him $150K a month to “take care” of him. I rather doubt that he was a board certified anesthesiologist…
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PBS bans religious programming. How intolerant!
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You can’t legally take it out of an operating room or “other approved anesthetizing location.” I’m wondering how they got it.
I’m also wondering how I can get me one of those $150K/month gigs. Since I am a board-certified anesthesiologist, MJ should’ve hired me instead. He might still be alive. Alternatively, I might be on the lam…..
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Stubob: If I had to guess, you probably should should find some beads and the Nehru jacket you undoubtedly have in the darkest recesses of your closet. Then work some on your chi, and the darker art of persuading pharm techs or residents or OR nurses to misplace the occasional package of the stuff…
Then all you have to do is fly to LA or Vegas, stake out some bars and wait for the next celeb to fall off a stool…
Piece of cake…
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