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So McNair’s gal pal shot him cuz she thought he was seeing ANOTHER WOMAN?
He was. It was his wife, Suhel!
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I’ve heard young ladies say “I didnt know he was married, he never told me”. I’ve heard “They’re actually divorced already. He’s living with his ex and the kids just to save money” But it sounds like McNair’s girlfriend KNEW he was married and flat out didnt care.
Men like McNair and these Hetero gals out there like Kozemi are far more destructive to traditional marriage than two gays up yonder eating Ben& Jerry’s in Burlington.
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What I find strange is when a girl marries the guy she took from his wife and is surprised when he cheats on her.
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Sage old wisdom I heard all my life:
If they will cheat with you; they will cheat on you.
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I wonder if either one had anyone (a friend, relative) who had the backbone to draw him/her aside and say “What are you doing? He’s got a wife and kids!” “What are you doing?! What about your children and their mother?”
The tributes and praise remind me of all the “He was such a great Dad” stuff that surrounded Michael Landon when he died.
Great Dads are lovingly committed to their children’s mother.
But you all knew that already.
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Sawgunner,
It usually doesn’t make any difference. I have an aquaintance (long since quit being a friend) who was having an affair (if not physical, then certainly emotional), and several people read him the riot act when he announced he was through with his marriage. He justified it, and rationalized it to the very end. He eventually married the gal. None of our “straight talk” reached him. He simply could not hear it.
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When I was in college I read the riot act to an older student with whom I had become friends. I introduced her to the professor she messed around with — by asking if she wanted to take a particular history class together. Three weeks later, she told me how hurt she was that I’d told her she had a 14 year old son not to mention a husband who had no clue what his wife was doing. She wanted what she wanted, and those two got married, but I don’t know if they’re still together. She also hit on the guy I was going out with at the time, but he refused her (he liked them younger, he was on prize in the end either).
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Having been cheated on, (not by ex-husband, but by the one after that), I can tell you it does something to you. I do not trust men. I have only two men in my life I trust: ex-h because of his daughter and the guy I am working for. It makes you question EVERYTHING. I am in absolute panic mode right now because somehow I ended up accepting a man’s invitation to dinner tomorrow night. I thought I was agreeing to a business lunch. I have tried to think of ways to gracefully back out and can’t figure out how to do it. He has even offered to come pick me up. No thanks. I will meet you.
I learned a lot about “that” type of man during my brief tour through a car dealership. They were all cheating on their “significant others”.
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“I have tried to think of ways to gracefully back out and can’t figure out how to do it.”
Kim,
Simply explain that you thought it was a business lunch, and you had no intention of dating.
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Kim, MIM is right. And you are right to meet him at the restaurant. You can always tell him you are seeing someone if the topic comes up. Don’t drink at all. Let him think you’re a stickler. And wear a watch so you can check the time.
But enjoy the meal.
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Kim, MIM and NJL give good advice. Especially about drinking, but not only about the stickler thing. People do dumb things with just a little bit of alcohol.
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Okay, back to my problem. This dog is dumb as a sack of hammers.
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If you don’t lie, you don’t have to remember what you said.
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NJL- I think you have a couple of typos? You make it sound as if you introduced your female friend to a female prof and the two of them had an affair.
KIM- MiM and NJL have good advice, except one thing: Tell the guy the truth. If you lie and say you are seeing someone else, it gives him a challenge to prove himself better for you than the one you are supposedly seeing. Just tell him that you don’t want to date anyone at this point in your life, especially a co-worker.
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Good morning, we are back. As for Chas’ concerns about traffic: we saw a car in Idaho and another in Oregon and still another in Nevada. In California we saw a five foot stretch of road but the rest was cars.
Kim, don’t go and don’t lie. Call George and ask if he wants to go golfing with daughter and dog.
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If you come right out and tell the truth you risk him pulling the “Oh YOU thought this was a date” line and that could be really embarrassing. I would just talk about nothing but business.
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Any news on Doc Stubob’s final tally?
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I told him the truth. That I am overwhelmed I apologize but I am cancelling. I have had a week that took a decided downhill turn. My hotwater heater sprung a leak, ruining the ceiling and walls, I am packing to move to a less expensive house, I am having an estate sale Saturday, and the thought of getting dressed and going out to dinner was just more than I could handle right now.
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George has his weekend at the beach with the boys. He offered to cancel and I told him to go and have fun, I will put him to work next weekend.
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Good move Kim.
Dr. StuBob is sleeping in today after assisting the population explosion yesterday.
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And we still haven’t heard from Random!
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Proud of you, Kim, well done.
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Dr. StuBob is sleeping in today after assisting the population explosion yesterday.
On the contrary. Still pounding them out. One of yesterday’s labor patients is about to become today’s c-section. Then there’s still one more. This’ll take the rest of the day. Right now, I can’t keep them straight, so I don’t have a tally.
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kbells, don’t judge the dog yet, you are comparing him to an older dog that you obviously had before you had the kid. Is there a PetSmart near you. They offer training classes and it might be something fun for you and the kid and the dog to do together so that the dog is more the kid’s.
She is a lab isn’t she? They are all stupid until they are 5 yrs old and then a switch is flipped and they become the best dogs you could ever have.
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So, Mac was a practicing adulterer. Yawn.
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Last week I told you about a guy who drove off the grade. I was wrong. He was actually thrown from the vehicle at the top and rolled and fell the eight hundred feet. His parents were not behind him, they were ahead and realized he was not with them some time later. The dad went back to look for him and found the tire marks. Had he not, the young man would probably not have survived the night. As it is, all they can report is that he is still alive. Pray for him and the family if you get the chance. There were two more over the edge this past week as well. Pray for the rest of the drivers, including me, to be awake and alert and attentive. I am taking boy back down for his haying job. He is having a great time and learning a lot.
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“If you come right out and tell the truth you risk him pulling the “Oh YOU thought this was a date” line and that could be really embarrassing.”
Well it could be embarassing, but if the guy does that, then he’s a jerk. If it were me, I’d be tempted to tell him so, and a “do you think this little stunt will get you a second chance? Buzz off.”
Obviously tact with co-workers is not high on my priority list…
Anyway, it’s all moot. Good for you Kim.
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MIM, If I were the gal I’d have some fun with this.
Coordinate in advance to have friends call you on the cell phone throughout the dinner. If it’s a spiffy upscale restaurant, dont dress appropriately. (Are there any places left that refuse to serve parties if a gal is wearing a halter top? Daisy Duke shorts?) And my fave tactic would be to talk about an ex-, how he hurt you how you’ve not got over the recent breakup etc etc.
Then of course you can fix it where friends who just happen to be in the joint keep coming up and chatting with you. “Oh and let me guess, this MUST be (insert name of someone other than the man you’re with), the guy you were telling me about the other day..”
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Someone wound up the key that’s apparently somewhere on Tess’s body. She just came charging into the house, whirling and spinning before shooting out to the back again, Cowboy dutifully following.
Horrible story this morning about the raids & arrests made on a massive dog fighting operation that spanned several states. What’s wrong with people? I know the answer to that, of course, as do all Christians. But sometimes it just stuns me anew. What a cruel and hideous thing for human beings, created in God’s image, to do.
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Tess is back. My face has now been thoroughly washed with dog kisses.
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Rush hour was pretty intense this morning, but I knew that going in. Met a car going down and another one coming up. Everybody seems to be driving just a tad slower and a tad closer to the uphill side.
Boy met his ride and now I am waiting for the flooring to arrive. I think this is the day. Guess I will go do stuff while I wait. Maybe tackle those weeds in the raspberries.
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Kim, I called PetSmart. If we can fit it into the budget I’m signing her up. Now if I can just find an obedience class for children, my problems would be solved.
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KBells, I had a neighbor who went by the “2-year” rule: It generally takes just about 2 years, she told me, to break in a husband, kids and dogs.
Obedience classes are great. I’m planning to take Tess & Cowboy through classes that start Aug. 1 at our local independent pet shop — belatedly, to be sure, since I’ve had them both for 1-1/2 years or thereabouts. But life has been so busy this past year and they’ve both actually been pretty easy dogs compared to others I’ve had so there hasn’t been a real urgency. Still, there are some things with each of them I’d like to work on and I think a class setting will help.
Besides, I always find the classes enjoyable. These go 6 weeks ($60) but afterward you can bring the dog back for free at any time for a refresher. I’ve known the trainer for several years, she raises and shows Shetland sheepdogs and is a retired special ed teacher for lausd.
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DonnaJ, where are you taking them. $60 is way cheaper than PetSmart which is $109 for eight weeks. .
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…And now for your Southern Real Estate Update:
I showed property to a couple Monday. The house had been on the market for 90 days and was listed at $76,900. We submitted an offer on Tuesday. It was a multiple offer situation. They accepted the other offer, because ours had a home inspection contingency. The selling agent told me he had another house in the same neighborhood he had fixed up and was selling. Before we could look at it, he received an offer. Called about a house for the same couple today, to show it tonight. I had been on the market for 3 days and is a foreclosure at $59,900 and the other agent has already received and submitted an offer to Fannie Mae.
I haven’t been in a multiple offer situation since 2006!!!! Something is going on out there. Fortunatley/Unfortunately this are qualifies for USDA loans and they take 45 to 60 day turn around and sellers are not wanting to accept those offers.
I am off to do the final walk through on the Condo I sold back June 13th. We are doing a mail out packet tomorrow so I will have another paycheck next week!!!! Wooo HOOOO!!!
I told my friend Amanda that what I really need is to sell a few more piecess of property and make reservations at the upscale restaurant I was supposed to go to tomorrow night and take my girlfriends …I’ll have a better time and can have a glass or two of wine.
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Kbells, can you take the Kid with you or do they only want one person training the dog?
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I took a dog training class at the local community center after my husband gave me a puppy for Christmas. As I was seven months pregnant with my second child and the first wasn’t housebroken yet, er, toilet-trained, you can imagine what I did for the next six months.
I realized, however, that I had embraced the training a little too closely the day I put the by-then two-month-old baby on the bed, held my opened palm at him and said, “stay.” I turned to walk out of the room and thought, “what have I done?” and rushed back to retrieve the baby.
The dog, of course, had run off.
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Open Questions:
How did the Greenpeace “activists” get anywhere near Mount Rushmore’s Lincoln’s head to hang and unfurl their stupidity?
Who let them up there and why weren’t they stopped before they left the parking lot carrying a banner as big as a circus tent?
Who allows climbing on the monument?
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.35e6de86c42195197709b1c0d130410c.a41&show_article=1
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Michelle, lol!
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KBells: The class is held at an independent pet store in town, not part of a chain.
I’m thinking the trainer sets her own price and since she’s been doing it for so long, it’s fairly reasonable (?). She’s also part of a local dog obedience club that does training, they’re also fairly inexpensive, but only offer classes on weeknights which I’m unable to get to due to my work schedule.
I think I took a class through Petco years ago, they were a bit pricey. Since I know this particular trainer and like her, I really didn’t check with any other local stores this time around.
Maybe if you check through your city’s rec & parks department there might be something less expensive?
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Rond, because I hesitate to call people idiots, or worse, I can’t comment on people who would climb Mt. Rushmore to hang a sign.
Who do they think they will influence by such a stunt?
Besides the MSM is doing it for them.
Maybe someone will send money to Greenpeace. Or is it Greenpiece?
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Chas,
I really don’t care who they are or what their message is or whether it’s an effective method to garner support, I care about them being allowed access to climb on or anywhere near the monument.
If such a banner could be hauled up there by 11 people, what is keeping one guy with explosives from doing the same?
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JULY 6, 2009
New England Journal of Medicine Reports Mental Health Epidemic Among Republican Governors
Erratic Behaviors Cited
A new study published today in the New England Journal of Medicine warns of a “mental health epidemic” afflicting the nation’s Republican governors.
According to the study, the symptoms of the epidemic include “bizarre, uncontrollable behaviors” and “grandiose self-ideations,” including an impulse to compare oneself to Biblical figures.
The study also says that the mental disorder is manifest in “erratic, incoherent” speech and a syndrome akin to Tourette “in which the patient does not appear to know when to stop talking.”
There are other worrisome symptoms, such as “geographical dislocation,” in which the afflicted person may think he is hiking in North America when he is actually having sex in South America.
Finally, and most troubling according to the study, the patient “may speak in basketball analogies that have meaning to no one but the speaker.”
http://www.borowitzreport.com/
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Alrighty, another birth. BUT, someone else showed up with a blood pressure of 180/110, which means I still have two to go. This is ridic.
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On a related subject:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,531062,00.html
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NJL (re your #7 and Peter L’s #14): Is this an accurate paraphrase of your intended meaning?: “Three weeks later, she told me how hurt she was that I’d reminded her that she had a 14 year old son, not to mention a husband who had no clue what she was doing.”
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“Tess is back. My face has now been thoroughly washed with dog kisses.”
Is it just me, or does anyone else find it… eh… nauseating to get licked in the face by a dog? I mean.. they lick their butts for crying out loud. Urrrg…
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Make it Man, I haven’t figured out if Amos eats cat poody because he likes it or he has figured out I will give him a Greenie if I catch him to clean his mouth out. Maybe I should try soap.
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Rond, 42, you are correct. I was just thinking of the stupidity of the stunt.
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Why Are Southerners So Fat?
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Make it Man (47):
Hey!
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Vindication I love thee…
While in Paris, I received some of the worst scorn from people who didn’t like my poor French and my ignorance of their landmarks (or, more what they were saying so fast). I thought many a time that they would not have received the same treatment from my home town.
So, there’s a certain amount of satisfaction in noting that the French are some of the worst tourists in the world. They were voted the most arrrogant, tight fisted, and (shock) worst at foreign languages.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090709/lf_nm_life/us_france_tourists
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090709/lf_nm_life/us_france_tourists
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Sorry Donna…
I like dogs, but when a dog comes up to me, and wants to lick me, I can’t forget that image…
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50. I’m sure it’s because we are dumb, religious, racist and vote republican.
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No dog licking, thanks.
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MiM = Elitist.
(KBells, I think RPN is married to a southerner, maybe the link isn’t as hostile as it sounds? Still …. )
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Mumsee = Not you too???
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kbells, we have to maintain our strength
See the funniest man in america…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11VwGlRI8Zg
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I vote no dog licking in the face.
56. Then it’s probably just Republican southerners who are fat.
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The red words mean that if you click on them with your clicky pointer thing you can read the article entitled “Why Are Southerners So Fat” in Time Magazine.
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Here’s an update on the young lady who broke her back and whom I asked you to pray for the other day. She came home last night. Her legs are still weak, and she needs to wear a back brace for a while, but she sounds like she’s in good spirits, based on her update on Facebook. Thanks again for your prayers.
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Matt, I presume that if she came home, she is out of danger. Do they expect a full recovery?
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Re dog licking: My parents trained dogs not to lick simply by not allowing them to lick. If you pull away each time they try, it’s really simple to teach them not to. I can go literally nose to nose with Misten and she will not lick me. Occasionally she licks my arm, and I’ll let her have a lick or two (because it doesn’t bother me that much, and she seems to be showing affection), but more than two or three licks and I’ll pull the arm away too.
But what amazes me is this: In spite of the fact that I’ve never let Misten lick my face, and I honestly can’t remember her even trying to do so, it was such an easy thing to train, anyone who pets her (at the dog park, for instance) and allows her to lick their face, she will. She seems to have an instinctive sense of who will let her and who won’t, because she rarely tries it, but when she does, invariably it’s a person who sits there and lets her do it rather than a person who pulls back saying “Eww!” So, every few weeks she enathusiastically licks some stranger’s face (or her vet’s face), but in between time she goes nose to nose with me, looks me in the eye, with no attempt whatsoever to lick my face.
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Oh Barry…
I’m sure Michelle will have something to say about you taking that long look at this gals derrierre:
http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/slideshow/photo//090709/ids_photos_wl/r3356552547.jpg/
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“Elitist”.
You betcha. I’m bettern’ any dog I know.
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Stubob: You sure you don’t want to exercise that anesthesia certification?
Last time I checked, the hours were waaay better…
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Oh I know, southerners are fat because of Sarah Palin.
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Chas – Her forward-and-backward and side-to-side motion (in bending) will be affected a bit because of the rods in her back. But she’ll adjust quickly. Once she recovers fully as expected, she should be able to do everything that she was before.
I’ve had a broken back as well. That was in 2001 (I was 16) and I had to wear a back brace for 3 months (except I could take it off for lying down). I also wasn’t supposed to drive for a few months. I have a 6″ metal rod in my back, but it hasn’t affected my motion or physical activities as far as I can tell.
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I’m glad to hear that Matt. I always get nervous when backs and necks are hurt.
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The latest on that other philandering Republican senator.
PAID OFF: Ensign’s Parents Gave Mistress’ Family $96,000
The statement is a response to Doug Hampton’s claim that Ensign paid a severance package of over $25,000 to Cindy Hampton when she left his political committee — which would be a felony violation of campaign finance law if he wasn’t reimbursed. A good government group called today for a criminal probe into the matter.
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Tess is by nature an aggressive people licker. Cowboy, never.
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#70 So Sen John Ensign paid the woman? And exactly how is he different then than Elliot Spitzer? Oh yeah. Spitzer is/was a D. So he gets a pass.
I think Sen Ensign shoulda pulled a Gov McGreevey and said “Truth is I am a polygamous American. I’m learning to appreciate my polygamy”
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Another violent rightwinger made the news today. His statement sounds like he may need to lay off the Fox News just a bit?
Man says threats against Muslim mother and baby were to ‘defend America’
They said Gardner, who was carrying a knife, admitted he had “pulled a knife on a Muslim woman earlier in the day because he was ‘doing his part to defend America,’” according to the statement.
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Sawg-
At least Spitzer didn’t have his daddy pick up the tab
Didn’t Spitzer step down? So far as I can find, John Ensign and Mark Sanford still hold office as Republicans. Not that I think they should resign.
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#64
He was checking her out. So was Sarkozy — who has had some marital problems lately.
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Random? Can you read this yet?
Or try this: CAN YOU READ THIS YET?
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#64
That’s a great shot! And a great behind! I’m pretty sure Michelle is mature enough that it won’t bother her. Good opportunity to needle him though, and she should
Remember when Bush went beyond looking?
http://www.faniq.com/blog/President-Bush-Plays-Beach-Volleyball-With-Misty-MayTreanor-And-Kerri-Walsh-Blog-10897
and the Merkle Massage episode? yikes.
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As a matter of fact, I am mature enough.
I like to call her Mrs. O.
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The cataract operation on my right eye seems to have been successful. Before the operation, the doctor said, “Distance vision or close vision? I can fix one; make a choice.”
I said, “Distance, so I can shoot the bunnies and avoid the cars headed toward me; the silly messages I read at wmb don’t move very quickly; I can still knock them down while wearing reading glasses.”
He also said, “My schedule is so filled I won’t be able to do your other eye for at least two months.” However, when I called the person who schedules him, she said, “He isn’t open to September…wait…I see something an opening on August 4.”
If you want to call it a miracle, be my guest. If you reveal that I knocked off the person scheduled for August 4, you’re next.
Thank you to all who offered prayers and good wishes. I don’t pray but don’t have any bad wishes for anyone at wmb.
The leading Buddhist koan is “What is the sound of one hand clapping?” As a radical agnostic, I offer, “What is the sound of a silly wmb comment unanswered from the multitudes offered today?”
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Got it, Michelle! Mrs. O from now on.
Congratulations on your miracle, Random!
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Glad to hear it Random. I’ll call it God’s provision through modern medicine as His secondary means.
Will it be strange to have just the one eye done and the other one still blurry until it’s time for the 2nd operation though?
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Congratulations Random.
I think they always do cataracts in two stages.
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It is strange. My old eye and my new eye are not happy trying to focus together.
Donna, with all due respect…well, I’ll leave it to you to figure out what I would say. But thank you.
Chas, I think you are saying they do one eye and then the other.
If there is another stage to the one eye, I am not happy about the prospect. Although it is “minor” surgery, and was successful, it was still an unpleasant experience. I am not looking forward to more serious surgery, though at my age, such could come at any time. OK, I’m going to go on the readmill now. The eye doctor make me promise not to fall off…
Thump.
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Freudian slip of the day at Fox News: “I’m a big Sarah Failin’ pan.”
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My husband has a job interview tomorrow. It will take four hours, and will include a test on his knowledge of biology (which was his major in grad school, so he should know it well, but it’s been fifteen years since he worked in a lab). He would appreciate your prayers.
Chas, I have a friend who had cataract surgery recently, and they did both at the same time. Well, not simultaneously, I suppose, but one right after the other. I was surprised about that, but then she’s also the youngest person I’ve known to have cataract surgery, younger than I am I think (I’m 47). She is just thrilled with how well she can see now.
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Random, do you still have the X on your forehead?
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RANDOM, glad to hear all went well. Don’t over do it on the tread mill. Really though, you put me to shame;I don’t use mine often enough!
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I prayed for you Random – I’m happy all went well
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Glad everything went well Random. Hope it continues to go well, and with your other eye also.
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Random: I wear what they call “mono vision” contact lenses — my right eye contact provides distance while the left contact provides close-up reading vision.
Probably different from what you’re experiencing, but it is amazing how your two eyes will begin to focus and “work together.”
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Thought some of you might enjoy the Red State Update on Sarah Palin.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKryG50KMeE
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Sorry to go political but I didn’t want this to be an answer to any particular thread.
I remembered today that differences between liberals and conservatives are important to remember.
Liberals think that if you give them enough time and enough money, they can fix the problem.
Conservatives think if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. Conservatives also believe that if you try to fix a problem and you can’t fix it, try something different.
Liberals think they are smarter than everybody. They always know better.
Conservatives don’t.
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Sorry to go political but I didn’t want this to be an answer to any particular thread.
I remembered today that differences between liberals and conservatives are important to remember.
Liberals think that if you give them enough time and enough money, they can fix the problem.
Conservatives think if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. Conservatives also believe that if you try to fix a problem and you can’t fix it, try something different.
Liberals think they are smarter than everybody. They always know better.
Conservatives don’t.
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Oops!
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism
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#95 RPN
I will change liberal to Statist. (Thank you Mark Levin.)
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Heh heh.
Bob, I think many criminals, believers in global warming (you can’t call them “global warming proponents,” so what are they?),
and others share an arrogant mindset.
Criminals sometimes think, “They’re all fools. They’ll never catch me,” and that usually leads to them getting caught, because they get careless.
Sometimes, those who believe in global warming think they know just how the world and parts of the universe works, what causes this and that, etc. But since there is so little that we actually know and so much we can be wrong about, trying to teach global warming (and evolution, for that matter) as fact is really quite arrogant, in my opinion.
I say people need to use the term “I think” and “I believe” more often than “This is how it is,” since there is often a good possibility that they can be wrong. If they say there is no possibility they can be wrong, they are an arrogant fool. Period. You should beware of anyone who claims to know everything, or even a lot of everything.
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Especially annoying and disingenuous are people who claim to know the truth about the nature of existence, God, and what happens when we die. Good point, Rio.
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Ah yes.
What is truth? … as someone once asked.
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Bob-
I’m not sure that makes any more sense, but go ahead.
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Thanks, Donna. Where are Victoria and Monty?
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Bob-
Are you an Anti-Statist?
Anti-statism refers to opposition to state intervention into personal, social or economic affairs. Anti-statist views may reject the state completely as well as rulership in general (e.g. anarchism), they may wish to reduce the size and scope of the state to a minimum (e.g. minarchism), or they may advocate a stateless society as a distant goal (e.g. autonomism).
This would imply you have no interest in regulating marriage between consenting adults, banning abortion, and regulating many other sins I doubt you are willing to ignore. Thoughts?
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#102 RPN
Leaps in logic. You can do with my post as you will. I meant that liberal Democrats think they are smarter than other people and they know best about everything.
I want to keep from falling in that hole.
I am driving again today 767 miles from Crescent city to Los Angeles. I will look for your reply on Saturday.
Bye!
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“Especially annoying and disingenuous are people who claim to know the truth about the nature of existence, God, and what happens when we die.”
Oh. You mean atheists?
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Bob-
You didn’t answer the question of whether you are anti-Statism? Have a safe drive.
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I’m sure some atheists take an active position that there are no gods, still others simple lack a belief in gods. In the case of the latter, I would suggest these people claim NOT to know. Don’t most evangelicals think they “know” there is a God, and what happens to people when they die?
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“I would suggest these people claim NOT to know.”
The term you’re hunting for is “agnostic”. One of the best self-defeating propositions known to man. “I know that I don’t know”.
Whether you claim to know, or claim not to know, you still know something…. And you’re still making a truth claim.
Don’t most Atheist claim to know there isn’t a God, and what happens (nothing) to people when they die? If they don’t they should just call themselves Agnostics.
I suggest you’re trying to paint the picture a little too onesided.
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