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Whirled Views 7.10
Good morning!
Today’s quote is from a Reformer who was born 500 years ago today:
“For wherever God becomes known, his powers cannot fail to be manifested; might goodness, wisdom, righteousness, mercy, truth—these should captivate us with wonderment for him, and impel us to celebrate his praise.”
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“Burn, baby, burn”. Same guy?
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John Calvin! One of my heroes in the faith.
Hmmmm…….what DO you get for a 500 yr old guy??
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Well in the Thank Goodness it didn’t happen in the South column I here that a pool in Philadelphia is being investigated for racial discrimination. I am sure there is more to the story than what I read, but you can bet if it happened in the south it would be all over the news and we would have people coming in from all over to protest it.
In other news, just why do we care what Levi Johnson has to say and why is he pursuing an acting career and a book deal, just because he “knocked up” another teenager. And I DO hate that phrase “knocked up” but it just seemed to fit this particular situation.
There are several people in the world and on World that I wish I could just ignore until they went away.
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hear not here…my spelling has gotten atrocious…
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Bingo!
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Pauline, I’ll be praying about your husband’s interview. I hope it goes well.
Random: Yes, one eye, then the other.
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Late Tuesday afternoon, I had no patients in the hospital. This morning, I have nine who are postpartum. Some time last evening, I was carried away by men in white suits while I laughed maniacally and drooled on myself. Today, I’m comfortably sitting in a padded room, waiting for lunch and, if I’m lucky, story time.
There’s some point to be made here about nationalized health care, but I’m too tired to make it.
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“…a pool in Philadelphia is being investigated for racial discrimination.”
No! In the city of brotherly love no less. In the north even.
What is the world coming to?
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Stubob.
Go back to bed.
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We saw the swimming pool story on the evening news yesterday. If a bus pulled up and dozens of kids of ANY color came jumping in, I may not have stayed around much longer, either.
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Persis makes a good point.
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I went to a public pool once. Didn’t take long for me to round up the kids and go home. It wasn’t any fun with all the rowdy kids who didn’t have any supervision.
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Hey, I see Google is commemorating Nikola Tesla’s birthday today.
So Calvin and Tesla have the same birthdate?
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As I said, I am sure there is more to the story. I agree Persis. I don’t even get in the pool with my own child. I have explained to her on many occasions that I had my time in the pool when I was younger, and at this stage in life, my role is to sit beside the pool, read a book, and sip on something cold and refreshing. One day she will be in that stage of her life. Although, she was quite impressed with me recently when I wrapped the rope from the blow up boat that was tied to the dock around my ankle and folded my hands behind my head and floated for a while. She also likes to make me perform for her friends and do front handsprings and left handed, right handed and one handed cart wheels. I finally quit doing the one handed ones when I realized I weigh about 30 pounds more these days and could easily snap a bone.
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I guess the reason Levi Johnston is in the news is because we are (finally) past the MJ memorials? How unfortunate that we have become a nation more interested in celebrity gossip than what really matters. I heard or read somewhere that the biggest selling magazines are the People/Us/other celebrity mags. I suppose it is escapism. Personally, I think it is because the news junkies don’t want to wait for the weekly edition to come in the mail, so they get the latest on line. After all, by the time the news magazine arrives, the news it contains is at least a week old. So why do the electronic media join in the gossip genre? Why do the big three give an entire half hour newscast over to celebrities? Because they think that is what we want.
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14. I’ve tried convincing the kid of that. We have a small backyard pool. All his friends are on vacation and I’m tired of walking around soaking wet.
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Peter says “Becaust they think that is what we want”.
The lovely Gretchen Carlson was talking to O’Rilley about the celebrity coverage vs. substantial news. She said that as soon as they left Jackson and went to real stuff, the ratings dropped severely.
That is what people watch. That is the kind of president they elected. That is the government we get.
I’ve said before, it’s how you look on TV.
A beatuiful, bright person who relates well on TV terrifies the liberal media. They will destroy Sarah if they can.
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We used to belong to a pool club when my son, and through the grandkids, was young.
Kids enjoy the pool, and you can’t blame them, they are kids. But the boys “cannonball” and splash into the deck. They holler and throw water on each other and everyone else. They can’t run, but walk 10mph to the diving board. etc.
As Persis said, it may not have been the color of the kids.
Some people are trained to be offended.
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#3 Kim,
I’ve not read the pool story. Sounds from the above posts that one batch of patrons arrived and another batch of patrons all of a sudden left en mass. If a group of young uncontrolled rowdies showed up, I’m sure lotsa folks would skeedaddle. That doesnt make them govt discriminators but it might make them bigots.
This is not discrimination. Discrimination is a “Whites Only” sign and a police force and court system to enforce the “only” part.
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Hate to divert everyone to a story about NY which probably isnt relevant if you’ve not been there or have no relatives living there, but here I go again:
City-journal dot org has a great story about how dysfunctional the state govt of NYC and NY state are. For years and years the state and city could count on Wall St as their revenue cash cow. But as Gov Patterson now sez, that well has gone dry.
You should read the article and note the state by state comparisons.
I’ll try to put up a link if you wish.
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Let me indulge in some native son Texas bragging.
In the 20 July 09 NATIONAL REVIEW we learn that to rent a U-haul trailer to go from Austin Tx to San Francisco Ca would cost you $900 but to rent one to go from SF to Austin?.. About $3000.
Moving van rentals tell the story about which states are thriving and which are not.. the state with more moving vans/U-hauls leaving than coming in? It had been Michigan but I suspect soon it will be either NY or California.
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From what I read about the pool thing, if numbers was really the problem the Club should have asked the camp to split the kids into two groups instead of refunding the money.
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To any computer whizzes out there: Why does my 4-year-old (Mac) laptop fan run non-stop all of a sudden? Started last night and is doing it again this morning, it never shuts off. Is it a battery issue?
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Donna — Google “Why does the mac fan run constantly?”
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Stubob, I did google it and it does seem to be an issue with macs in general, but in a brief look last night I couldn’t find any “reason” one would just suddenly start to do that. Much of it seemed to be connected to some programs, which I’m not running, so I’m still stumped. But I’ll check more thoroughly when I have more time today.
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I googled it and didn’t understand the answers
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The quote was from Zwingli, right, right, am I right? Tell me I’m right.
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Anyone out there have some good suggestions for a relatively inexpensive gift for friends that have been married 50 years? We have a gag gift and my husband will do some entertainment for their celebration, but I would like to do something else.
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People don’t watch cable news for news they watch it for an “event” When the “event” is over they go back to reality tv, CSI and Law and Order reruns.
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KI,
People who have been married 50 years are at an age that they tend not to want more “stuff,” expensive or not. (I never understood that when I was younger, and found it frustrating when I tried to come up with gift ideas. I’ve only been married 20 years, but I’ve already found, at age 47, that I find little appeal in getting things unless they are useful. And if they’re really useful I’m probably going to have bought it for myself already, perhaps as a Christmas “present” since I do all the Christmas shopping for the family.)
The gifts that I think are most likely to be appreciated would be a gift certificate to a restaurant, or a donation in their name to a charity doing work important to them.
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No, Arcadia, wrong guy. Calvin was the one who pled with the heretic to recant and who prayed for his conversion, and when Servetus refused, appealed to the magistrates for a more humane form of execution.
Perhaps you’re confusing Calvin with the 70’s disco group, The Trammps.
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Stubob: The responses I saw seemed to only address the fact that Macs (inherently) run hot (which I’ve personally not found to be the case with mine, although this is the only laptop I’ve ever used). Nothing about what’s going on when the fan suddenly begins running all the time when it didn’t do that before (I write this as the fan whirs loudly).
The only time it would come on before is when I was watching a video. Now, beginning just last night, it’s on constantly with the most basic of uses.
So I think I’ll take it to work with me today, have our photo editor look at it (he’s a mac expert of sorts). Apple also has an 800 # you can call with questions.
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Donna, are you close enough to an Apple store to take it to their Genius Bar and have them look at it? And can you get to a command line and run the “top” command? That will show you if a process is using up all the CPU (indicating the fan is on legitimately). Figuring out why that process is running is a different question.
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Those are along the lines we were thinking also, Pauline. I just know there are some very creative people out there who may have some good ideas.
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KI, I am all about non cluttering, consumable gifts. There are really creative ways to give cash. Flylady does a think on that. I love to give/receive massages, pedicures, manicures, facials, iTunes gift cards, “services”(rake the yard, mow the grass, weedeat,clean the house etc. Could you donate a tree in a park or something in their honor. Do they go to church with you? Could you donate the flowers on the alter in honor of them? Is there a dish that you make particularly well, or that they really like that you could prepare for them and deliver later?
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Donna J,
I don’t own a Mac, but let me take a stab at this one.
The fan is running because your computer is hot.
The question is now, “What is making the computer so hot that the fan runs constantly?”
Start with the simplest explanations.
Have you been using your laptop in an enclosed area where the air
cannot circulate?
Are you using your laptop in an area where dust can get into the machine?
You might want to take the back off the machine and hose it down with a can of compressed air. This might fix your problem. If it doesn’t, the solution might be one of the more complicated ones you’re seeing on the Mac bulletin boards.
The nice thing about the simple solutions is that they are also the cheapest ones to fix!
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I don’t care what color a child is but one as young as the one’s I saw in the cliip about the pool do not use the word “appalled”. I don’t even think my 11 year old has ever heard it. It just isn’t one of those useable words right now.
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Donna-
Out of curiosity, what kind of Mac laptop and OS are you using? eg: The G4 Titanium PBooks with 15″ screen are known for this problem.
First, use Activity Monitor to see if something is hogging resources.
It is located at: Applications>Utilities>Activity Monitor
If nothing unusual there, go to
http://discussions.apple.com/index.jspa
and search “fan runs” under your model (Powerbook or MacBook or whatever) find out how others have corrected the issue. On my old PB it took resetting the PRAM, which is simple enough. Have you popped out the keyboard and used a can of air to clean out all that dog hair and slobber?
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Thanks for all the mac advice, the first thing I’m trying (suggested by our photo guy) is to simply shut it down then reboot it. Maybe/hopefully it’s that simple.
If that doesn’t work, I’ll start trying the other suggestions here. I have the macbook, white plastic casing (low end model), maybe 3-4 years old now, 13″ screen.
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I assumed you had already tried restarting to make sure there isn’t a hung app. My bad.
When you do restart, open Applications>Utilities>Disk Utilities select the hard disk on the left, and click “Repair Permissions” It probably will have no effect on the fan, but should be done periodically anyway.
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“Have you popped out the keyboard and used a can of air to clean out all that dog hair and slobber?”
RPN – Are you insinuating that Donna slobbers on her keyboard? That’s not very nice!
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Donna..
Get a PC, because Macs really do suck.
It’s hilarious. I’ve seen it before, but I’m still laughing so hard tears are running down my face. Watch it.
*there are a couple of obscenities*
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However, I must admit that I did spit (accidentally) on my keyboard a couple days ago. I was talking to myself, & one of the words was literally spit out of my mouth.
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“I don’t care what color a child is but one as young as the one’s I saw in the cliip about the pool do not use the word “appalled”.”
Ahem… You’ve never met my son. I think… no, I KNOW the boy came out speaking complete sentences. With proper grammer. I’m not sure he was ever a child even…
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NJLawyer – if you are on this thread, could you give your views regarding this one?
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“dog hair and slobber”
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Here’s another example of just how disingenuous and dishonest Sean Hannity on Fox News can be. Watch what the President really said Major Garrett, and then see how the dishonest Hannity edits and misrepresents it to feed to their Perpetually Aggrieved© mouthbreathing viewers.
Hannity chops video to turn Obama statement upside down
http://www.dailykostv.com/w/001915/
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RPN: Usually it’s very difficult to take you seriously, but your #47 is actually quite interesting. President Obama basically spoke the truth about many nations being involved in ending the Cold War (though the Poles were much more pro-active than the Czechs in working for change). People often simply repeat what they hear in saying that Reagan, the USA or ‘the West’ won the Cold War, when of course the citizens of Central and Eastern Europe played a huge role in that whole process. Gotta’ give credit where credit is due!
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Thanks, Tychicus. I agree.
What makes the Hannity propaganda all the worse is that this was his own network’s interview he butchered to mislead people. He new better, but chose to sew seeds of discontent with his gullible viewers. No wonder Fox viewers are so often terribly misinformed.
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Interesting commentary on the photo of Obama in Rome. Apparently the video shows it differently.
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/07/when-in-rome.html
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Whoa, Victoria! What an interview! And she’s a liberal. I have to say that it never occurred to me that Blackmun or the justices who voted with him had the idea that abortion could be used to get rid of unwanted, specific groups. That’s really weird thinking, if you ask me. As I recall, Blackmun’s wife and daughters were the ones who convinced him to create the right to privacy out of those penumbras, and they were thinking about how a girl gets “caught” and her whole life (school, career) “ends.” (Heaven forbid anyone could think before acting!) Had Ruthie’s view (equal protection) been used, she’s right, there would be no way any state could regulate abortion, so I am glad that they saw a compelling state interest in the child as the pregnancy continued. For that we should be grateful at least.
It is interesting that Ruthie even thought the eugenics thing at all, and her reaction to the Hyde Amendment being upheld — well, it really is an example of a highly intelligent person getting it all wrong, but that’s what leftys do. They do it here all the time. They see something that isn’t there which is what Ruthie saw in the Supremes’ Roe decision. Liberals don’t think like normal people.
Are these the kind of thoughts you meant?
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NJL, I was shocked when I read it – I couldn’t believe an individual who was so educated in law, elevated to the highest Court in the land, could have been so confused. I am wondering if there might be more to the story? What do you think?
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I’m grinning, Victoria: I think she’s a loopy liberal, bluntly put. You’ve seen it here. (Just think how they ignore (and for some rewrite) the history of the founding of the country.) They see the same things we do and come to these loopy conclusions, certainly about what is going on in someone’s head. I mean, why would it ever occur to her that 5 members of the Supreme Court would be thinking about getting rid of whole segments of the population in the first place? It takes months to write an opinion, time to read and revise it, so she really thought that they were sitting around planning the disposal of whole segments of the population. That’s whackadoodle thinking!
It’s a skewed way of looking at things, but we see it here every day in the lefty comments. Which one of them was convinced that the justices weren’t racist when they chose merit in the firefighter’s case? It couldn’t really be merit, it has to be racism! But that’s how THEY think, not how the justices think!
I wish they could see how strange their approach is. They believe anything the leftists tell them to believe and they never question anything. They are told to hate Bush and they do. They are told to worship Obama and they do. They are told by Al Gore that we’re Nazis because we ask questions about climate change, and they believe him. It’s scary, as my nephew used to say.
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“Interesting commentary on the photo of Obama in Rome. Apparently the video shows it differently.”
Yep. The video shows just how smooth he is…. Slick Willy got nothin’ on him.
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NJLawyer, and Victoria,
It’s Ginsburg. Say no more. And they say Palin is an idiot. Where do they dredge these people up?
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HRW,
Just yankin’ your chain man… The video does indeed paint a much different picture.
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50. I figured it was something like that. Sort of like the one that went out last year of McCain checking out Palin. If you stop a video at just the right moment you can make it look very different.
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Do you guys find these comments from FreeRepublic about President Obama’s family to be racist?
“we;’re being represented by a family of ghetto trash.”
“Looks like a bunch of ghetto thugs. A stain on America.”
“Looks like a typical street whore.”
“What we now are sending the ghetto over to represent us. and if so who the hell is that flea bag who looks to be dragged from the trash dumpster.”
“you could go down any ghetto right now and see exactly the same.”
“could you imagine what world leaders must be thinking seeing this kind of street trash and that we paid for this kind of street ghetto trash to go over there”
“the world must be laughing like mad right now at that we have this kind of street trash in our white house.”
“Wonder when she will have her first abortion.”
sad isn’t it that we now have ghetto street trash over there representing us in Europe.
“This disgusting display makes me more and more eager for the revolution.
They make me sick…. The whole family… mammy, pappy, the free loadin’ mammy-in-law, the misguided chillin’, and especially ‘lil cuz… This is not the America I want representin’ my peeps.”
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I’m living in a nightmare. There are currently TWO deer swimming in my pool. They had to get over two fences to get in. Dog is frantic. Daughter is taking photos.
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Husband, needless to say, is not home.
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or these comments?
“That’s a freak kid searching for attention.”
“We are now represented by the thug ghetto culture, aren’t you proud?”
“I never actually wnated to be a pistol before but…..”
“Black nail polish to go along with her nasty radical hair. Using their children for that kind of shit is horrific. But they did grow up in Rev. Wright’s church so what do we expect? Their entire family makes me want to vomit.”
” DIRTBAGS! All of them. Our WH is now a joke to the rest of the world. We have no respect and this is not going to turn out well, mark my words. We will be hit, and much worse than last time. We are now seen as weak and vulnerable. Ghetto and Chicago thugs have taken over the WH.”
“And quit picking on little Chacha & Malaria.
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LMAO!”
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The above comments courtesy of FreeRepublic were made in response to a photo of the older daughter wearing a shirt with peace sign. Klassy Konservatives.
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or these comments?
“That’s a freak kid searching for attention.”
“We are now represented by the thug ghetto culture, aren’t you proud?”
“I never actually wnated to be a pistol before but…..”
“Black nail polish to go along with her nasty radical hair. Using their children for that kind of [poo] is horrific. But they did grow up in Rev. Wright’s church so what do we expect? Their entire family makes me want to vomit.”
” DIRTBAGS! All of them. Our WH is now a joke to the rest of the world. We have no respect and this is not going to turn out well, mark my words. We will be hit, and much worse than last time. We are now seen as weak and vulnerable. Ghetto and Chicago thugs have taken over the WH.”
“And quit picking on little Chacha & Malaria.
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LMAO!”
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The above comments courtesy of FreeRepublic were made in response to a photo of the older daughter wearing a shirt with peace sign. Klassy Kool Konservatives at the freep show.
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got a dear tag? When this happened last time I suspected it may be dry and they smell the water, then nature and drive to survive kicks in…. What a mess. Get a neighbor to help you get them out the shallow end — and leave the gate open with dog locked in the basement.
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You are the one mentioning “thug getto” etc, no on one on this thread did that – in FACT no one has posted the word “getto” but YOU. What is your point?
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Ah, good news for the Bambi crowd. My brother-in-law, niece and daughter, using the pool skimmer, herded them to the shallow end, up the stairs and out the back gate. Dog is now sweeping the yard to make sure we’re rodent-on-hooves-free.
Yes, very dry. It’s the water that draws them.
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Wow Michelle, you have such a fun life. No deer here, but I do smell skunk wafting in through my open windows.
Home late again tonight (Fridays are killers with all the weekend copy to read), but you all will be happy to know the fan on the mac laptop no longer runs. Shutting it down worked, such a simple thing.
I’ve had zero trouble with this thing since I bought it, it’s such a dependable workhorse for a little computer, so I didn’t know what to make of the sudden operational hiccup. I know they don’t last forever, but I’m just glad I don’t have to think about replacing it just yet.
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Get a PC, because Macs really do suck.
******I have a MAC, but the only thing I related to in the video was the dock business.
I really do like my MAC. Sorry PC guys.
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Victoria-
The comments you object to are from the mainstream conservative website called FreeRepublic.com
I hope this answers your question. I’m not sure why mainstream conservatives would attack a young girl with racist, sexual and abortion attacks. If you have ever visited http://www.freerepublic.com maybe you can ask around.
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that’s exactly how I pictured it. Provide an exit and usher them out. Sure beats 2 inedible dead deer in your yard.
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RPN – 67
Who cares where they come from, you brought them on the thread as though one of the posters had made them a position, which they hadn’t – posting “thug getto” and “thug” had not been mentioned in regards to this thread, it’s not but a POT STIRING game – LOL
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Donna-
Have you resolved your fan issue? All good?
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Victoria 69-
I care where they come from. http://www.FreeRepublic.com is a mainstream conservative website. It is considered middle of the road for conservative thought. The comments by the readers are objectionable to me. I am curious whether readers here find them to be objectionable, or possibly racist, comments about the President’s family. See my question prefacing the comments from FreeRepublic.com in #58. I ask:
“Do you guys find these comments from FreeRepublic about President Obama’s family to be racist?”
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RPN – 71
You might be curious RPN but the words you used earlier had nothing to do with this thread. I don’t have time, nor do I think others on the blog have time to check out your ideas and theory’s – most of us are professionals who have a limited amount of time – we work long hours and what we do must be correct.
My research takes precedent over the nonsense of what blogs are saying – This may be your hobby but for most of us it doesn’t come close – there is real news, TRUTH and then there are the left wing, to socialist blogs which are a waste of time – some of the blogs which conservatives post on aren’t relative or germaine to what’s going on right now either -
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TRS,
I don’t really care whether you use a MAC or a PC. I just thought it was a funny video. I mean the guy put the video together on a MAC. Since MACs have moved on since then, some of the content might not be pertinent any more though.
Enjoy your computer whether its a PC or a MAC. If you can.
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RPN,
Yes I find those comments to be racist and hateful.
I guess I wonder what your motivation for posting them here is? Is it to insinuate that the rest of us would say that kind of thing? Is it to suggest that mainstream conservatives are racist? Is it to “observe” that consertatives and christians are the only ones to make hateful comments? If so, I abhor your shallow and crass practice of dragging the trash through this website to slime the rest of us with it. If not, I remain skeptical of your motives. You have a long history of digging up dirt (if it’s not, in fact, being fed to you instead) ONLY on conservatives.
I would like to point out that those comments are not much more hateful than comments made about Palin by liberals on this blog on a daily basis. If you look, you can find examples of hateful comments about almost anyone on just about any blog, forum, or chatroom on BOTH sides of any issue, opinion or person.
What the heck is your point? One wishes you’d shut up.
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#23 Donna,
You might want to get a program called COCKTAIL.
http://www.maintain.se/cocktail/index.php
It is like ccleaner for macs. I have a couple of old macs in storage since I went to using a server farm.
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RPN,
I side with the majority in this thread that it was not appropriate to bring those comments into this particular thread. Find a different place. In this thread I prefer to think about deer and Macs.
Victoria , Michelle, and Donna are dears and I get MACsomal delight from seeing them.
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RPN, Those are pretty nasty comments, but no worse than you can find on U Tube about almost anybody. People now days think they are being cool and edgy when they say mean, stupid things.
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One might even entertain the notion that RPN posts in a manner which suggests a decidedly one-sided view of the universe….
Of course I don’t remember RPN ever claiming to be objective, non-biased or neutral.
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I been lurkin long enough to see comments like that here too. No one seems to care though. That says alot.
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Donna, sometimes shutting it down does work.
That’s how I solved the problem I had with internet access yesterday. I unplugged the modem and waited a while. Pulgged it back in. And here I am.
I have no idea how it works.
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Yes, all those comments are disgusting. Seems to be par for the course for too many people on both sides of the aisle today. Of course, many people don’t want to get back to the day of too much of the Judeo-Christian ethics this country used to be under. Better to all talk trash and have virtually no standards.
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Kim, very good ideas. Thank you.
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RPN, if you want to see some nasty stuff, go to U Tube and search Bush Twins or Bistol Palin.
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Yep, laptop is fine. I’ve always known to shut down the desk top varieties to get them going again, unplugging modems, etc. But somehow it didn’t occur to me when the fan on the laptop wouldn’t stop spinning.
As others have said, there are a whole lot of objectionable things said by people on both sides of the political aisle. I like to the think of this as a place where we don’t engage in that. Rather than the standard knee-jerk reactions, those of us who are Christians try to “think biblically” first and foremost. That means (a) our positions may not always be those consistently of one political party or another; and (b) we express ourselves differently than “the world,” with respect toward those who disagree.
Speaking of which ….. I’d posted last week about how I felt I’d crossed that line in a silly politicized discussion last week with my former journalism teacher as we sat together at the dog park. I sent her an email apology, she replied not to worry about it, so I feel much better.
Someone else here (MiM?) posted on one of the later threads here about James’ take on the tongue — who can tame it? Indeed.
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Thanks for the Mac cleaner link, Monty, I’ll check that out. I’ve had PCs mostly before, but ever since we used Macs at work for several years a while back (alas, no more), I found them easier and, well, just more fun for personal use at home. This laptop is my one and only mac so far, however. Hoping it lasts a while longer …
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Monty-
Evidently you and Victoria fail to grasp the concept of Whirled Views.
We are free to introduce ANY topic we wish, so long as it does not violate the rules here, and it doesn’t matter what you wish. So, deal with it!
It is an oft repeated falsity that the rightwing doesn’t attack the Obama children. As you can see from the comments at FreeRepublic.com, they do — and they are racists to boot.
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RPN: And I think Kbells points out that bad behavior exists on the other side as well. I can only imagine some of the things said about Bush’s family and Palin’s as well. But I don’t hold you or others here accountable for that unless I read it directly from you. Then all bets are off.
I don’t believe in guilt by association. I like the notion of giving people the benefit of the doubt. Just because someone on your (or our) “side” politically is a jerk, we shouldn’t assume those motives or ideas of each other. I haven’t even read the link(s), but I’m guessing most of us here would have nothing to do with that kind of thing. By the way, I have never even heard of FreeRepublic.
Children of presidents or other politicians should not be attacked. Period. That’s the principle. Is it violated by those on the extreme left and right? Sure. Are people openly racist and sexist sometimes? Yep. Especially in the Internet era. Anyone with a computer can be a jerk for everyone to see. I’m not surprised by much of anything in that regard.
I don’t argue the point that there are folks with bad manners out there. But that has to do with us … how?
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We have bad manners too. People are real quick to run to Palins rescue if she’s slandered, because she’s respected. We don’t speak up when one of us says something unfair about someone we don’t like. maybe because inside we agree with it. That don’t make it right or the Christian thing to do. Everyone has to look in thier own heart and do the best they can.
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What I’m talkin about is going on right now on The Popes Gift toObama thread. One of the posters said Michelle Obama looks like a pregnant prostitute. No one of the Christian regulars there cares enough to say a single thing.
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#89 — Maybe that’s because many of us haven’t seen it? (I haven’t looked at that thread). But I’ll say it now, I think that is not only a childish remark but it goes over the line.
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89. That was a criticism of her choice of clothes. It not fair, but woman are judge more harshly by what they wear. All men have to do is pick black, gray or blue and make sure it fits well and the tie’s not too weird. I’ve seen much worse said about Hilary, Palin, and Pelosi and nearly every other first lady. It’s part of the job.
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For30PiecesOfSilver – 88
I saw it and made a comment – You’re right, it is wrong and un-Christian -
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“One of the posters said Michelle Obama looks like a pregnant prostitute.”
Bet I can guess who said that.
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Donna,
We often hear on this site that conservatives would never attack the Obama children. The comments at FreeRepublic, a mainstream conservative website, prove that to be false. I am not suggesting you say racist things about children.
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BTW, I went and looked, and the classless poster is who I thought it would be.
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RPN: I don’t pretend to be up on all the political sites, but i’ve never even heard of FreeRepublic. I rather doubt they’re ‘mainstream,’ however.
I do look at powerlineblog which I think generally is quite tempered and fair (though clearly conservative). I can’t imagine anything so inflammatory on that site, or on some of the others that I think would be in the mainstream.
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I guess I’m just saying that we all know there are “conservatives” —- and “liberals” — who are frankly way out there. Most of us aren’t on the fringe and wouldn’t have anything to do with those remarks.
So I suppose when I see something like that posted by you, I wonder if the implication you’re making is …. see how low and despicable “your” side is?
Truth be known, both sides have their dark elements. This is no surprise. I’m just not sure I understand what it proves, if anything.
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