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		<title>By: Chas</title>
		<link>http://online.worldmag.com/2009/09/21/blog-baby-born/comment-page-1/#comment-486383</link>
		<dc:creator>Chas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 21:44:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From Heritage.com

The Waxman–Markey energy bill, which would restrict greenhouse gas emissions by creating a cap-and-trade system, was passed by the House in June and will likely be considered by the Senate soon.
If this bill becomes law, gasoline prices would increase significantly in order to meet emissions limits imposed by the legislation. To see specific estimates, hover your mouse over each state below:  (To see the effect on your state, go to the link and click on the state.)

http://blog.heritage.org/2009/08/27/waxman-markeys-effect-on-gas-prices-in-your-state/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From Heritage.com</p>
<p>The Waxman–Markey energy bill, which would restrict greenhouse gas emissions by creating a cap-and-trade system, was passed by the House in June and will likely be considered by the Senate soon.<br />
If this bill becomes law, gasoline prices would increase significantly in order to meet emissions limits imposed by the legislation. To see specific estimates, hover your mouse over each state below:  (To see the effect on your state, go to the link and click on the state.)</p>
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		<title>By: kBells</title>
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		<dc:creator>kBells</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 02:37:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Random, I never said we were better than other people. I said I have never met anyone who wasn&#039;t a better person, after accepting Christ than before. By better I mean kinder, happier, more generous with their time and resources and in many cases they seemed to get smarter, more talented and develop a sense of humor for the first time. If you think some of the WMBs are bad now imagine what we would be like without Christ. That could be the danger of being a naturally nice person. You think you don&#039;t need Christ.  I have also known a number of what we call &quot;backsliders&quot;. These are people who professed Christ and then turn their backs on him. I have never met one of them who didn&#039;t get worse.  By that I mean angrier, meaner and bitter. This happened to my father.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Random, I never said we were better than other people. I said I have never met anyone who wasn&#8217;t a better person, after accepting Christ than before. By better I mean kinder, happier, more generous with their time and resources and in many cases they seemed to get smarter, more talented and develop a sense of humor for the first time. If you think some of the WMBs are bad now imagine what we would be like without Christ. That could be the danger of being a naturally nice person. You think you don&#8217;t need Christ.  I have also known a number of what we call &#8220;backsliders&#8221;. These are people who professed Christ and then turn their backs on him. I have never met one of them who didn&#8217;t get worse.  By that I mean angrier, meaner and bitter. This happened to my father.
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		<title>By: Allen Wrench</title>
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		<dc:creator>Allen Wrench</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 22:36:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Random Name (Various):  I dislike your use of the term &quot;property&quot; in referring to children.  Oh, sure, it costs a lot to raise a child to an age where he is no longer a dependent, but parents, except for adoptive parents, and even there I abhor the use of that word, hardly &quot;purchase&quot; a child.  Property is bought and sold, and has not the intrinsic value of a child.  A child is a possession, entrusted to parents who are meant to care for him, love him, and guide him.  A child is a (God-talk alert) gift from God, even if the parents are unmarried scoundrels, wastrels, degenerate unbelievers (all a part of common grace).

As for letting a child, an adolescent, choose for himself which church (or no church) to affiliate himself with, Satan will be delighted (if demons have that emotion) to guide him.  Keep him as far from the Truth as possible.

I&#039;m on a roll here and I hate to break off this fascinating dialog, but I just got a dinner bell call.

Peace be with you (you old reprobate!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Random Name (Various):  I dislike your use of the term &#8220;property&#8221; in referring to children.  Oh, sure, it costs a lot to raise a child to an age where he is no longer a dependent, but parents, except for adoptive parents, and even there I abhor the use of that word, hardly &#8220;purchase&#8221; a child.  Property is bought and sold, and has not the intrinsic value of a child.  A child is a possession, entrusted to parents who are meant to care for him, love him, and guide him.  A child is a (God-talk alert) gift from God, even if the parents are unmarried scoundrels, wastrels, degenerate unbelievers (all a part of common grace).</p>
<p>As for letting a child, an adolescent, choose for himself which church (or no church) to affiliate himself with, Satan will be delighted (if demons have that emotion) to guide him.  Keep him as far from the Truth as possible.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m on a roll here and I hate to break off this fascinating dialog, but I just got a dinner bell call.</p>
<p>Peace be with you (you old reprobate!)
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		<title>By: Random Name</title>
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		<dc:creator>Random Name</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 21:37:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>KBells,

I don&#039;t know what a reasonable age would be. For one thing, not everyone matures at the same rate. We call people adults around 18 or 21 and set limits on drinking and getting married and serving in the military and being &quot;emancipated&quot; around those ages. 

My granddaughter is five and very, very bright and gradually getting her emotions and temper under control. I would encourage her to be an atheist. Her mommies&#039; strategy seems to be to let her attend various churches as she gets older and eventually decide on her religious belief. My wife and I are comfortable on it.

I know a lot of Christians in real life and they vary in how I would describe them as &quot;better&quot; or &quot;worse.&quot; My knowledge of the Christians at wmb is very superficial (as is your knowledge of me), but I definitely think of some as better and some as worse.

I think I should stay away from naming screen names but some people make a positive impression on me and some have made a very negative impression on me. There are several people I encountered over the last few years who struck me as unpleasant, hostile, and perhaps dangerous if encountered in &quot;real life.&quot; By and large, the other Christians either feel obligated to agree with them because the spout the Christian party line, or at least they pretend not to notice their disturbing behavior and language.

Obviously, the same can be said of many atheists and members of other groups. I don&#039;t hate Christians and on the whole I don&#039;t think of them as an especially horrible group of people, but I don&#039;t perceive them as a group as any better than any other large group and not particularly living up to their high opinion of themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KBells,</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know what a reasonable age would be. For one thing, not everyone matures at the same rate. We call people adults around 18 or 21 and set limits on drinking and getting married and serving in the military and being &#8220;emancipated&#8221; around those ages. </p>
<p>My granddaughter is five and very, very bright and gradually getting her emotions and temper under control. I would encourage her to be an atheist. Her mommies&#8217; strategy seems to be to let her attend various churches as she gets older and eventually decide on her religious belief. My wife and I are comfortable on it.</p>
<p>I know a lot of Christians in real life and they vary in how I would describe them as &#8220;better&#8221; or &#8220;worse.&#8221; My knowledge of the Christians at wmb is very superficial (as is your knowledge of me), but I definitely think of some as better and some as worse.</p>
<p>I think I should stay away from naming screen names but some people make a positive impression on me and some have made a very negative impression on me. There are several people I encountered over the last few years who struck me as unpleasant, hostile, and perhaps dangerous if encountered in &#8220;real life.&#8221; By and large, the other Christians either feel obligated to agree with them because the spout the Christian party line, or at least they pretend not to notice their disturbing behavior and language.</p>
<p>Obviously, the same can be said of many atheists and members of other groups. I don&#8217;t hate Christians and on the whole I don&#8217;t think of them as an especially horrible group of people, but I don&#8217;t perceive them as a group as any better than any other large group and not particularly living up to their high opinion of themselves.
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		<title>By: kBells</title>
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		<dc:creator>kBells</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 12:01:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Random, what would you consider a reasonable age to choose to become a Christian?  As the mother of the new 6 year old Christian, I am not offended by your remarks, so be honest. 
In all my years I have never seen anyone, of any age, become a worse person after becoming a Christian.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Random, what would you consider a reasonable age to choose to become a Christian?  As the mother of the new 6 year old Christian, I am not offended by your remarks, so be honest.<br />
In all my years I have never seen anyone, of any age, become a worse person after becoming a Christian.
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		<title>By: Random Name</title>
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		<dc:creator>Random Name</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 03:46:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My comment was perfectly reasonable.

People often demand, how can evolution account for altruism?  I often answer, humans have a drive to care for our young. This seems fairly obvious to me, and hardly an insult to anyone.

I have also pointed out in my salesmanship comments that the most likely prospects our captives: our children. The recent thread where people were talking about children saying they are Christians at ages of 6 or whatever hardly represents any meaningful &quot;age of consent,&quot; whether we are talking about religious believers or atheists. We told our daughter what we believed. When she asked if Santa Claus was real, we asked what she thought. She said, &quot;I think he is not real.&quot; It wasn&#039;t a long journey. 

Children are our property and most of us indoctrinate them. We didn&#039;t home school, but my secular brother did home school his children. I don&#039;t know how else to proceed except acknowledging that our children are property and setting some limits such as preventing grievous abuse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My comment was perfectly reasonable.</p>
<p>People often demand, how can evolution account for altruism?  I often answer, humans have a drive to care for our young. This seems fairly obvious to me, and hardly an insult to anyone.</p>
<p>I have also pointed out in my salesmanship comments that the most likely prospects our captives: our children. The recent thread where people were talking about children saying they are Christians at ages of 6 or whatever hardly represents any meaningful &#8220;age of consent,&#8221; whether we are talking about religious believers or atheists. We told our daughter what we believed. When she asked if Santa Claus was real, we asked what she thought. She said, &#8220;I think he is not real.&#8221; It wasn&#8217;t a long journey. </p>
<p>Children are our property and most of us indoctrinate them. We didn&#8217;t home school, but my secular brother did home school his children. I don&#8217;t know how else to proceed except acknowledging that our children are property and setting some limits such as preventing grievous abuse.
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		<title>By: Victoria</title>
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		<dc:creator>Victoria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 01:13:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m so happy for you Kristin - GOD bless you your new little son and family.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m so happy for you Kristin &#8211; GOD bless you your new little son and family.  <img src='http://online.worldmag.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />
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		<title>By: roger patno</title>
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		<dc:creator>roger patno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 23:35:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CHERYL D:  Thank you, I will take it under advisement.  My french temper does get in my way at times. An aside;  My name is Roger, dirived from the French.  It means &#039;warrior&#039; or more literally &#039;spearman&#039;.  aptly named. I realize that is no excuse, but the warrior spirit does rear its head from time to time.
Blessings
Roger</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CHERYL D:  Thank you, I will take it under advisement.  My french temper does get in my way at times. An aside;  My name is Roger, dirived from the French.  It means &#8216;warrior&#8217; or more literally &#8217;spearman&#8217;.  aptly named. I realize that is no excuse, but the warrior spirit does rear its head from time to time.<br />
Blessings<br />
Roger
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		<title>By: NJLawyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>NJLawyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 23:08:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I suspect the Chapman&#039;s are already telling Caleb that Jesus loves him and has found him first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I suspect the Chapman&#8217;s are already telling Caleb that Jesus loves him and has found him first.
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		<title>By: contented-joy</title>
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		<dc:creator>contented-joy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 23:05:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congrats!  What a precious thing to hold a brand new person in your arms.  

Caleb is a great name.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congrats!  What a precious thing to hold a brand new person in your arms.  </p>
<p>Caleb is a great name.
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