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But, GOP ranks are missing women
The Virginia race is leaning toward Republicans, as discussed in an earlier post, and from the looks of things, women aren’t defecting to Democrats despite criticisms of Republican Bob McDonnell’s views on women.
But the GOP has generally fewer female elected officials than Democrats. Of the 17 women senators, only four are Republican. Of the 73 congresswomen, only 17 are Republicans. Three of seven female governors nationwide are Republicans. Of course, there’s recently retired governor Sarah Palin, who is a potential 2012 presidential candidate.
But in last year’s election when Palin was on the opposite ticket, Obama won female votes by 13 percentage points. The GOP will have to reach out to women on a national level.
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Folks the women issue is used by the Dem. Party to scare women into voting for them. They do this with Women Rights and Minority Rights every election.
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Use Palin as an example for why GOP women don’t want to sacrifice their families on the altar of politics. There I go again. I’m obsessed.
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Women nationally want health care reform that doesn’t marginalize their private medical decisions. The GOP might need to reach out to women, but their “burn the moderates” treatment of Snowe and other reasonable Republicans proves that they don’t have to do anything.
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mynock – one could make the case that Snowe is not a moderate but a Liberal Republican.
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I swore after I threw away my vote on Ross Perot that I would never vote for an independent. I was raised to believe my vote counted. I no longer feel that way and I feel that BOTH parties are wrong. I don’t trust the right or the left.
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I’m not clear what point Emily’s post is making: does “ranks” of Republicans refer to Republican voters or to Republican elected officials? There may be fewer elected officials from the GOP nationwide who are women, but it doesn’t follow that GOP-leaning women voters are coming up missing; perhaps statistically significant numbers of them prefer male candidates.
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As long as Republicans remember their base and don’t go soft on abortion, I have no problem with them trying to get the female vote. But why not get the America first vote, which includes a lot of women as well as men?
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My suspicion is that women conservatives not only rail against big bloated govt, but also refuse any connection with the beast. They’re shaping and building the free market instead of merely giving speeches about it.Women liberals are more than happy to get elected and stay in office. And who could blame them? Cushy pension, gold-plated health care and “campaign finance laws” designed to protect incumbents!
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“The GOP will have to reach out to women on a national level.”
What does “reach out” mean?
1. Try to play identity politics better than libs?
2. Consider other groups as second class citizens?
3. Make sure you have more female candidates?
4. Appeal to emotion more and promise to care for us?
5. Don’t talk about personal responsibility?
6. Destroy all college papers you forgot about?
7. Hire actors to faint while you are speaking?
8. Make sure your running mate is female?
9. Pretend (falsely) that females don’t get paid as much as males for the same jobs and the same hours?
Or…
10. Be yourself and hope that women will respect that?
“All of the above” is not an option.
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Seems to me that many women who support the GOP are not running for as many offices because as conservatives, they have a tendency to be more stay at home moms. They want to stay home and raise their own children rather than letting Hillary’s village raise them. It takes a super mom to raise a family and run for office and do either one very well. Just saying. But you know, maybe some empty nesters just might make some good representatives if they are inclined to allow themselves and their families to be Palined by the opposition.
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Pastor Roy – or one can make the argument that Snowe is a RINO.
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Kim – #5 – that’s why I’m starting to think it’s a good idea to vote them ALL out of office. That will get rid of the cancer of corruption infecting Congress.
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Since I am a woman I can say it. Woman are more likely to vote on emotion and Democrats generally run a more emotional campaign.
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The hand that rocks the cradle rules the world. We’re busy rocking some cradles. The pro abort dems don’t have as many cradles to rock.
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KBells – you’re right about that. In matters of politics, we need to think more with our heads and less with our hearts.
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“The hand that rocks the cradle rules the world. We’re busy rocking some cradles. The pro abort dems don’t have as many cradles to rock.”
Demographic trends on social issues prove this is a stupid platitude. Well you’re marginalizing “emotional” leadership styles (read: institutionalizing misogyny) you might want to take the time to read a newspaper.
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Kim wrote:
{I was raised to believe my vote counted. I no longer feel that way and I feel that BOTH parties are wrong. I don’t trust the right or the left.}
I agree Kim – I am really struggling these days. I am tired of getting Republican “surveys” that are just political propaganda, with not even one remotely statistically valid question. They are all “when did you stop beating your wife” kind of questions. I hate that one of our state’s Republican nominees anonymously started a “fire Blanche Lincoln” website and flew banners above the football stadium – but you go there and sign up and you don’t know who he is (they’re all men), what he’s for or against. I’m tired of anti-campaigns … anti-abortion; anti-gay marriage … anti-immigration. I’m tired of immigration dialogues that feature rants against “ILLEGAL ALIENS” and yes, you can hear the capital letters in their voices. I can’t vote Dem – not just abortion, I just philosophically disagree with the approach to government-based solutions. I can’t vote Libertarian – too much anarchy in areas of moral concern. I can’t vote Green Party – too much empahsis on the marijuana issue (at least in our state). I can’t vote Constitution Party – too anti-immigrant. So what do I do??
I remind myself our hope is in God alone, and that all governments have their limits. But I have a strong civic responsibility to vote, and I’m sick of the options.
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Snowe and Collins (both of Maine) are RINOs.
To plagiarize Mark Steyn: Scozzafava (”Republican” NY congresswomen currently losing a special election race to a conservative) is a DIABLO – Democrat In All But Label Only.
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If anyone thinks that “The hand that rocks the cradle rules the world_ is a stupid platitude, they may have an unhealthy or skewed notion of what the word “rule” means. It may not mean personal power, but it can mean influence.
Rocking a cradle is NOT a waste of time. The rewards may take a while to see and the rocker may never see them, but it is a labor of love and how nice would it be if the world was ruled more by love?
One of the biggest problems with the modern feminist movement was not that they sought equal respect and opportunity for women, but that they failed to sufficiently respect the freedom of women to make motherhood an honorable priority. They were not very pro-choice at all when women made traditional choices.
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It’s a little different to assert the value of raising children than it is to assert that conservatives having lots of children will assure a world where conservative values “rule”! And since that is the obvious implication of klasko’s less than insightful commentary, it’s super disingenuous for you to treat this like a debate about the inherent personal rewards of childrearing. Klasko is invested in alleged future political rewards to popping out babies. And that’s just stupid.
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Mynock, demographics may not be destiny in an absolute sense, but surely it has its effect. Given that children by and large grow up with political and social views reminiscent of their parents’, and that the pro-abortion side of the American debate is demonstrably characterized by smaller families than the anti-abortion side, there’s a trend there worth considering.
You of course would like it to be otherwise, but you haven’t (so far at least) mounted an actual argument against it. Unless, that is, calling something “just stupid” is an argument.
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KBELLS@ 13 – I guess you haven’t seen Glenn Beck’s notoriously hilarious weepy meltdowns, Bill O having a screamy fit (one of which is set to music on YouTube), or heard our illustrious Senator shrieking “You lie!’ during a presidential speech, Cheney cursing out his colleagues, or seen McCain’s angryface. http://video1.washingtontimes.com/joecurl/mccain-angry.jpg
Emotions are manipulated by both sides in our national discourse. Republicans wave guns, flags, crosses and dead babies. Democrats wave dead soldiers, school budgets and ducks covered with spilled fuel oil.
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Thomas1 it was a congressman not a Senator
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According to a recent (May 6, 2009) Gallup Poll, 27% of women self identified as Republican, as did 28% of men. The margin of error is estimated at 3%.
If a political party has roughly the same number of woman as men, what would make people think they had trouble attracting women?
On the other hand, the number for the Democrats are 41% and 30% respectively (i.e., about 11% more men than women self identify as independent). Doesn’t that mean the Democratic party has a problem with men?
Okay, now my head hurts…
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Actually, Mynock, you chose to miss my point that the reason why we’re not in politics is because we’re busy rocking cradles, doing our jobs as mothers. The pro abort side of the demographic group presumably has more time then the hands rocking the cradles because they don’t have as many cradles to rock, if any at all. That frees up their time to pursue politics. Some of us have other priorities.
Politicians who had stay at home moms have the benefit of an upbringing that was not relegated to the village, but that was a responsibility seriously undertaken and passed on as a value. It is undeniable that mothers have a great influence for good of for bad over their offspring. So do the villagers who raise other people’s children in their mothers’ absence.
Before I get hung on a petard for these sentiments by mothers who had to work whether they wanted to or not, I maintain that when it’s at all possible in this day and age, mothers should raise their own children, and it’s a blessing when they are afforded the opportunity. For many, such as myself, we choose to give up promising careers to raise our own children, and are blessed with the opportunity to do so. Some of those promising careers might just be in politics.
Even so, we made other sacrifices to do so as well, like living on a smaller budget and buying fewer toys and putting off our own career fulfilment to do something much more worthwhile that reaps eternal dividends. I don’t expect you to uinderstand, nor do I really care that you don’t or that you look down your condescending nose at me and deride my choice and my priorities. I assume you are pro choice, and I have made my choice. I will sleep well at night and live with it.
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Thank you KLASKO:
My wife worked only at the Christmas holiday. Other than that she was a homemaker mom. We lived very simple life, but a full one. After the children were gone, she deciced that she would return to school and get a degree in Primary Ed., with a secondary in English Lit. She graduated at 50. She chose to teach in a Christian grade school which limited her income. But the joy of teaching made it all worthwhile. i would not change a thing, had I the ability to do so.
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Micky: I must have hit report comment by mistake. I have no reason to report a comment. Sorry.
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Lets also not forget the vicious attacks conservative women are often subjected to.
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The pro-abort dems don’t have as many children.
Wouldn’t it be interesting if the Republican party campaigned on fiscal responsibility and proposing legislation that would enable families to live on ONE income instead of two?
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“Lets also not forget the vicious attacks conservative women are often subjected to.”
Which often pale in comparison to the attacks they make.
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“Wouldn’t it be interesting if the Republican party campaigned on fiscal responsibility and proposing legislation that would enable families to live on ONE income instead of two?”
Um, how would that work exactly? Cause it sounds like complete nonsense.
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Nonsense to live on one income instead of two Spin? my family has been doing it for almost 30 years. There have been sacrifices made, but we’d gladly make them again. And the government didn’t make it any easier.
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I don’t know, Spinny, but we could start by limiting commercial advertising — and that speech can be limited. Then people wouldn’t feel they have to keep up with the Joneses as much as they do now.
We used to live on one salary, we could do it again. It only takes political will.
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30. For example.
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I think he is referring to that Coulter woman, but she’s the only one I can think of.
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I don’t believe that Coulter woman is an elected official.
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I for one would welcome a single income family which could live comfortably. Childcare tax credits for SAHMs or SAHDs! Make sure tariff and “free trade” pacts don’t export solid manufacturing jobs [which once long ago could support a family of at least 3]
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I just LOVE it when MEN tell me what I think. As far as I know I was born female and have been all of my life. I stirred up a bit of controversy here once by saying they should hold a national ballot on abortion and only allow women to vote for or against it. After all it is OUR bodies. Why should a man be able to vote on that.
I would like to throw my hat in the ring with whoever said they are tired of ANTI campaigns. I also agree with Klasko. I think next time I vote I will vote for the other party than the one in office and maybe even for the one whose name I don’t recognize. Got to be better than what we have gotten so far.
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Is Coulter back? Did she remove the stake through the heart?
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Joel Mark,
Your absolutely right in #9. Republicans shouldn’t do anything to pander to women. They just need to be themselves.
For instance 30 Republicans, 3 out of 4 in the Senate, voted against Al Franken’s amendment to guarantee women working for defense contractors overseas (think Halliburton), who are gang raped and brutalized by their fellow employees, the right to have their day in court. There’re just being themselves.
I’m sure that if women, as KLASKO says, “think more with their heads than with their hearts”, they would realize that the real “America First” policy would prioritize protecting defense contractors from legal liability over justice for American rape victims serving overseas.
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Kwatson – you seriously mean to tell me that they are not already entitled to their day in court under current US law? Puhleese! Let’s start enforcing the laws we already have rather than making new laws. Not bad laws – just poor enforcement of existing laws.
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KWatson,
Al Franken’s amendment was NOT to guarantee women working for defense contractors overseas, who are gang raped and brutalized by their fellow employees, the right to have their day in court.
That’s a total lie, KWatson!!! Franken’s amendment had to do with women being able to BREAK the contracts that they signed in the first place and being able to sue overseas companies who are totally innocent of the gang rape just because they have deeper pockets.
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Women get their day in court already, KWatson. Franken’s amendement was just a vehicle for lawyers (read “parasites” in this case) to make tons of money NOT from the rapists bnut from those who had NOTHING to do with the rape or anything norally related to the rape. It’s just a way for lawyers to reach into more pockets and hurt the economy further.
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#40,
That’s why I am a Republican. They (at least 3 out of 4 of the, apparently) have the courage of their conviction to do the right and fair thing and not be swayed by twisted tear-jerk stories intentionally spun out of context.
Defense contractors overseas draw up contracts that include terms that reflect the unique risks that they and their employees undertake due to the nature of their overseas work in a combat zone. The workers can make big bucks by signing on, but they AGREE to those terms on the front end. Thus, the workers go overseas with their eyes open to the risks. The defense contractors simply could not and would NOT be able to do the job they do if they were not able to set up fair and fully disclosed terms in contracts that take those unique risks into consideration.
Al Franken blatantly wants to make it fine to break those contractual terms outright.
The woman who was raped should get full justice and the rapists should be the ones who pay–not the defense contractors just because we think they have deeper pockets.
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“I stirred up a bit of controversy here once by saying they should hold a national ballot on abortion and only allow women to vote for or against it. After all it is OUR bodies.”
Sorry, Kim, but about half the aborted babies would have grown up to be men, so it is not just a woman’s issue.
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#40. A good example of the way Democrats use emotion to sway voters or spin an issue.
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KBells,
And all aborted babies have fathers who should be protecting and providing for their offspring, so again, it is not just a women’s issue.
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I have received 2 Rep. surveys. I answered not in the ways they would have liked and kept marking here and there stuff like:
STOP SPENDING OUR MONEY
STOP PORKING US
I DON’T TRUST THAT EITHER SIDE COULD RUN THE COUNTRY
I should have added: Why are you asking ME for money, you seem to be able to pull money out of my pocket whenever you want!
And I told them that the Rep. Party was so bad that people can leave and become a Dem. without a second thought.
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You are right KIM.
If it’s all about our bodies, as the Dems throw in everyone’s faces, then we should be the only ones to vote.
When Obama gave a speech to Planned Parenthood (as seen on Youtube) he said that men owe a big thanks to Planned Parenthood. What exactly did HE mean by that? Is he speaking personally? I’m not trying to start any rumors or anything.
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You are right KLASKO
I think that women running for political office as a conservative is an oxymoron. Unless she is single with no children. A wise woman once told me that mothers need to continue to be a mom to their children long after they have left home. We don’t have to tell them what to do in their marriage or raising children, but we can still be emotional support when needed. I can’t explain it very well, but she made it sound like an important role. (She wasn’t a meddling mother either.)
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Good one KBELLS #45
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I was following the thought process that a lot of women are “encouraged” to abort by the men who fathered the baby. I firmly believe that if it were put to a vote and men were taken out of it Roe v Wade would be overturned. I know what my vote would be.
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If men truly wanted to take responsibility for the child they fathered they would, but instead blame goes to the mother, and from the mother back to the father.
The ‘blame’ for an abortion ultimately goes primarily to the only one with the power to chose to get one: the mother. Period. In this day and age women have total control of this life and death issue. Men are legally forced to be little more than bystanders when it comes to whether or not their own child will be born or killed. It’s shameful.
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N2M – #49 – That’s why I keep harping on a clean sweep in Nov 2010. Neither side of the aisle is acting in the best interests of this country and the people they represent. They are ALL corrupt. Let’s get rid of the cancer of corruption in congress and impose some term limits via the ballot box. That’s the only way some change for the better can occur.
We’ve seen what change comes from the same corrupt and entrenched politicialns beholden to the lobbyists, the unions, the special interests. Keeping these corrupt politicians in office and both sides of the aisle will continue to bring us MORE OF THE SAME!! A clean sweep in 2010 will send a loud and unmistakable message.
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The whole point of Roe v Wade is to make absolutely sure that American citizens do not and CANNOT vote on the legality of aborting human babies. Without Roe v Wade, the states could decide for themselves (vote) one way or the other. Roe v Wade bans that, without any recourse to the will of the people.
The only way to change the current federal mandate for legal abortion in absolutely ALL states is to vote for a president who will appoint Justices who do not believe they can rule from the bench by forcing such universal mandates on the rest of us regardless of our will or our say.
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I think it is wrong-headed for either men or women to be left out of votes regarding such crucial life and death issues as abortion, but my point is that in point of fact, women were totally left out of the 9 person vote in 1973 that forced legalized abortion upon us all. Women were completely left out of the REAL vote that actually forced legal abortion on us. Just 9 men decided.
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It’s true that men legalized abortion. But they are powerless to decide to actually have one performed—OR to prevent one. That’s a big difference.
Nine women could just as easily have legalized abortion, and if there were 9 women on the court today, I doubt that would be sufficient to overturn Roe V Wade. The current female justices would not overturn it. Why? Because it’s an issue of power. And many women like it that the power of life and death has been given to women. And many, many men are content to have it this way.
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I doubt that Roe will be overturned until abortion is widely seen as 1) a state issue or 2) killing developing children–as opposed to ‘a choice’.
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I just know in my state you can have an abortion up to 20 weeks. I also know that at least two hospitals in my state are top notch in the neonatal care they give and can save a baby born at 20 weeks. Where is the difference? I watched my baby at 18 weeks bat at the needle that was invading her private sanctuary. It galvanized me on how I felt about abortion. Up to that point I had been pro-choice.
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Kim,
I have read your story before, where you told about your baby’s determination to live. It always makes me smile. I remember years ago being in the neonatal unit with a very young mother and her daughter, born at about 5.5 months if I remember correctly. It is humbling and amazing to see how small and helpless we all are when we start out on this planet–yet how determined to live. That childs entire hand was about the size of my fingernail, but she survived. I lost touch with them over the years, but other than her eyesight (she was blind), I don’t think anything else was permanently affected.
It’s good to see some states putting the brakes on unlimited abortions. As technology develops and it becomes harder to deny that these are small people rather than ‘blobs’, perhaps this trend will increase.
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It was not my intention to turn this thread into an abortion thread…
I was merely trying to provide a logical answer to the question of why the GOP has fewer women running for offices, and to dispell the notion that the GOP has less support from women. We’re there – just behind the scenes.
And right now I’m not supporting them either.
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Joel, I’m not sure your Heritage Foundation argument about protecting companies from all those disgruntled employee frivolous rape complaints is going to resonate very well with women.
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KWatson,
You are totally ignorant of my source for my argument. The Heritage Foundation would be a great source, but they were not my source.
And your description of my view itself is disingenuous, KWatson. No rape charge is being ignored nor should it be. I hope all guilty rapists are punished as harshly as possible. But I don’t believe in punishing innocent parties for HORRIFIC CRIMES LIKE RAPE SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY HAVE DEEP POCKETS. My view also has to do with actually honoring contracts that are signed with full knowledge by both parties.
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And it is always nice when a point of view “resonates” well with women, but that is not the criteria I use to take a position.
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DJ,
No, the blame cannot go totally with the mother (post 58). It really cannot. First off, many, many young women are all but forced to get an abortion by the child’s father or their own parents–a 16-year-old simply doesn’t have a lot of power to say no in such cases, and sometimes she literally has NO power to say no. Also, many young women go into Planned Parenthood and other death centers thinking they’ll be told all their options, and basically their arms are twisted into thinking they only have one good option. For a young woman with no family support, no desire for a baby, and no way to afford a child, such pressure can be too much. Is she morally culpable, yes–but so are the ones who are “counseling” her for death.
My mother was very, very pro-life, and bore seven children herself. She once said, rather to my surprise, that she had some sympathy for young women who choose to have an abortion when they don’t see any possibility to raise the child . . . because she said that in the early weeks even a woman who wants the child “doesn’t ‘feel’ pregnant; she just feels sick.” And if she feels sick and miserable and doesn’t want a child, she might be in a position to be really vulnerable to being talked into an abortion. (And also, “well she chose to have sex, so she should have considered that before she had sex” doesn’t necessarily work as an argument, because a huge percentage of Planned Parenthood clients are underage girls impregnated by men several years older. So she may have been raped or close to it, and NOT have chosen to have sex.)
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Joel Mark, After the gang rape of Jamie Leigh Jones by KBR employees in KBR facilities, Ms. Jones was locked in a KBR shipping container, guarded by KBR armed guards. KBR officials threatened that if Ms. Jones left to seek medical treatment she would be fired, and KBR guards refused to let her contact her family until a sympathetic guard disobeyed orders and allowed her to use the phone. Ms. Jones still has not had her day in court.
You’ve called me a liar and ignorant, I expect an apology.
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Cheryl,
The blame for any sin lies primarily with the one who choses to do it, whatever it is. That being said, I realize that many girls are being indoctrinated into thinking that they are carrying a ‘blob’ not a baby. And admittedly the very young are more likely to have mitigating circumstances, and be physically and emotionally pressured. But most abortions are obtained by women 20 years of age or older according to the last stats I checked. And the fathers of the unborn children have no legal recourse whatsoever that I am aware of.
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Umm, the GOP tried pandering to women with the horrible Palin nomination. Didn’t work, did it?
The GOP needs to get out of the identity politics business and back to issues. Trying to out-token the Dems is suicide.
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“if anyone thinks that “The hand that rocks the cradle rules the world_ is a stupid platitude, they may have an unhealthy or skewed notion of what the word “rule” means. It may not mean personal power, but it can mean influence.”
I agree. But it wasn’t a stupid platitude when mother was rocking his cradle.
In today’s society, it takes the most money to ‘rule’ a home, so women nearly have to work. However, if we would consider it, if the women all went home, most of the men would have a job. Ooooo, I bet that sounded sexist! Sorry ladies, but it’s only a logical statement. . . Oh, but then we couldn’t afford that luxury home, the SUV’s, that 102″ wide Plasma TV, the ATV’s, and the ‘Sleep Number’ bed, huh? It’s all relative. Life does have its priorities. (here’s a hint; you better get out of debt; we are in the climate of CHANGE, Yes WE Can!)
I’d like to see more women from the empty nest crowd, go into politics because sometimes women tend to meld ideas from both sides of the brain and multi-task better than men do. Rather than argue a point, they will reach consensus faster, eliminating the need for filibuster based on political whim.
However, some women, like Barbra Boxer and Olympia Snowe, do not think with either side of their brains. Maybe there should be a test.
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TE – I agree, but who wants to subject herself and her family to the Palining that will ensue? I sure don’t.
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Klasko, sometimes certain people stand up for what they believe. If we go back in time, it seems 54 men put their very lives on the line for us to have the freedoms we enjoy today. It’s egregious to assume that change will not come without sacrifice. If Sarah Palin is willing to stand up to the nastiness of the social left, then maybe she is an example to follow. Most people will follow a leader, who they themselves will take the lead in taking the hill.
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Kwatson – “After the gang rape of Jamie Leigh Jones by KBR employees in KBR facilities, Ms. Jones was locked in a KBR shipping container, guarded by KBR armed guards. KBR officials threatened that if Ms. Jones left to seek medical treatment she would be fired, and KBR guards refused to let her contact her family until a sympathetic guard disobeyed orders and allowed her to use the phone. Ms. Jones still has not had her day in court.”
The fact that she has not had her day in court is a failure of the system already in place. That can be rectified through the current system using existing laws. new laws are not going to help, but anyone involved in any kind of coverup can also be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. The solution is not to make new laws, but to enforce existing laws.
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