Comments on: The Christian journalist’s dilemma http://online.worldmag.com/2009/11/02/the-christian-journalists-dilemma/ A forum for discussion of news that arises at the intersection of Christianity and culture. Mon, 22 Mar 2010 04:58:34 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Mark@hereiblog http://online.worldmag.com/2009/11/02/the-christian-journalists-dilemma/comment-page-1/#comment-486524 Mark@hereiblog Tue, 03 Nov 2009 02:47:28 +0000 http://online.worldmag.com/?p=24890#comment-486524 It seems Andree's point is that what Christians and even society find acceptable did not start out as such. It has been a slow process. Recently taking on a citizen journalism position from being a blogger I'm not always sure how to address such situations. As a blogger I can address these things however I want, but as a journalist (of sorts) it is a little different story. I'm learning though. Of course, it seems this scene from <i>Curb Your Enthusiasm</i> is acceptable. No real outcry that I know of, unless I missed it. It is not like anyone is allegedly flushing a Qu'ran or anything. What is even more amazing is how it is acceptable for a picture of any historical figure is urinated, etc. It is like the old adage - How do you eat an elephant? One bite at a time. It seems Andree’s point is that what Christians and even society find acceptable did not start out as such. It has been a slow process.

Recently taking on a citizen journalism position from being a blogger I’m not always sure how to address such situations. As a blogger I can address these things however I want, but as a journalist (of sorts) it is a little different story. I’m learning though.

Of course, it seems this scene from Curb Your Enthusiasm is acceptable. No real outcry that I know of, unless I missed it. It is not like anyone is allegedly flushing a Qu’ran or anything.

What is even more amazing is how it is acceptable for a picture of any historical figure is urinated, etc.

It is like the old adage – How do you eat an elephant? One bite at a time.

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]]> By: Pastor Roy http://online.worldmag.com/2009/11/02/the-christian-journalists-dilemma/comment-page-1/#comment-486301 Pastor Roy Mon, 02 Nov 2009 19:54:36 +0000 http://online.worldmag.com/?p=24890#comment-486301 adios 11.02.09 AT 2:45 PM #14 You have mentioned this scenario before. Have you forgiven the offending pastor? Just wondering if your lack of recovery has anything to do with that. And I juse ‘you’ in the plural sense. Also, has the new pastor realeased the congregation to walk in their faith? There was absoulutely no need of a “licensed Christian minister” to be the only person who could deal with these problems. At least according to the Bood of Ephesians -- An unlicensed Christian Minister is the one who caused the issues. An yes, I am in touch with the pastor. The point I was tring to make when you do not deal with sin within the leadership, it can an will destroy a church. One of the problems we have in the church is people are not trained in working as lay leaders. I have in the past had to tell people that they will not do that again. When praying for people. adios 11.02.09 AT 2:45 PM
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You have mentioned this scenario before. Have you forgiven the offending pastor? Just wondering if your lack of recovery has anything to do with that. And I juse ‘you’ in the plural sense.

Also, has the new pastor realeased the congregation to walk in their faith? There was absoulutely no need of a “licensed Christian minister” to be the only person who could deal with these problems. At least according to the Bood of Ephesians
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An unlicensed Christian Minister is the one who caused the issues. An yes, I am in touch with the pastor. The point I was tring to make when you do not deal with sin within the leadership, it can an will destroy a church.

One of the problems we have in the church is people are not trained in working as lay leaders. I have in the past had to tell people that they will not do that again. When praying for people.

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]]> By: adios http://online.worldmag.com/2009/11/02/the-christian-journalists-dilemma/comment-page-1/#comment-486296 adios Mon, 02 Nov 2009 19:45:59 +0000 http://online.worldmag.com/?p=24890#comment-486296 #14 You have mentioned this scenario before. Have you forgiven the offending pastor? Just wondering if your lack of recovery has anything to do with that. And I juse 'you' in the plural sense. Also, has the new pastor realeased the congregation to walk in their faith? There was absoulutely no need of a "licensed Christian minister" to be the only person who could deal with these problems. At least according to the Bood of Ephesians. #14

You have mentioned this scenario before. Have you forgiven the offending pastor? Just wondering if your lack of recovery has anything to do with that. And I juse ‘you’ in the plural sense.

Also, has the new pastor realeased the congregation to walk in their faith? There was absoulutely no need of a “licensed Christian minister” to be the only person who could deal with these problems. At least according to the Bood of Ephesians.

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]]> By: adios http://online.worldmag.com/2009/11/02/the-christian-journalists-dilemma/comment-page-1/#comment-486292 adios Mon, 02 Nov 2009 19:42:29 +0000 http://online.worldmag.com/?p=24890#comment-486292 Too bad Andree doesn't respond to commnets on here because as a journalish who is a Christian I'm a bit befuddled as to what her real point it. Sigh. Too bad Andree doesn’t respond to commnets on here because as a journalish who is a Christian I’m a bit befuddled as to what her real point it. Sigh.

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]]> By: Pastor Roy http://online.worldmag.com/2009/11/02/the-christian-journalists-dilemma/comment-page-1/#comment-486282 Pastor Roy Mon, 02 Nov 2009 19:27:28 +0000 http://online.worldmag.com/?p=24890#comment-486282 roger patno 11.02.09 AT 2:14 PM PASTOR ROY: The problem does indeed need to be addressed in churches. I pray that it is being addressed in yours. I did speak to the pastor of a church I one time attended about dealing with sin in the camp. Nothing was done. Now the church is on the verge of closing its doors. Pray for a reversal. -- Roger, I worked at church as a children pastor, we start with 5 kids it grew to around 25 to 30 kids. Our church out grew the basement we were renting. We got new building and were growing. Then two family on the church council started to fall apart the Pastor did nothing. The youth pastor family started o fall apart and the pastor did nothing. When the some families in the church felt I need to get involved since I was the only other license minster in the Church. It was to last heft the church left with in six's months. I was able trace the issue on all three family back to one man in the church. I try to get the Pastor to deal with him and he would not by the time he left the Church, we fell from running 25 to 30 kids, to 8 kids, 15 teenagers to 2 teenagers, 70 adults to 20 adults. The new pastor came an the frist thing he did was to deal with the person that casued all the trouble. But I am sorry to say we have not recoved at all. It has been an up hill battle. roger patno 11.02.09 AT 2:14 PM
PASTOR ROY: The problem does indeed need to be addressed in churches. I pray that it is being addressed in yours. I did speak to the pastor of a church I one time attended about dealing with sin in the camp. Nothing was done. Now the church is on the verge of closing its doors.
Pray for a reversal.
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Roger, I worked at church as a children pastor, we start with 5 kids it grew to around 25 to 30 kids. Our church out grew the basement we were renting. We got new building and were growing. Then two family on the church council started to fall apart the Pastor did nothing. The youth pastor family started o fall apart and the pastor did nothing. When the some families in the church felt I need to get involved since I was the only other license minster in the Church.
It was to last heft the church left with in six’s months. I was able trace the issue on all three family back to one man in the church. I try to get the Pastor to deal with him and he would not by the time he left the Church, we fell from running 25 to 30 kids, to 8 kids, 15 teenagers to 2 teenagers, 70 adults to 20 adults.

The new pastor came an the frist thing he did was to deal with the person that casued all the trouble. But I am sorry to say we have not recoved at all. It has been an up hill battle.

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]]> By: roger patno http://online.worldmag.com/2009/11/02/the-christian-journalists-dilemma/comment-page-1/#comment-486276 roger patno Mon, 02 Nov 2009 19:14:31 +0000 http://online.worldmag.com/?p=24890#comment-486276 PASTOR ROY: The problem does indeed need to be addressed in churches. I pray that it is being addressed in yours. I did speak to the pastor of a church I one time attended about dealing with sin in the camp. Nothing was done. Now the church is on the verge of closing its doors. Pray for a reversal. PASTOR ROY: The problem does indeed need to be addressed in churches. I pray that it is being addressed in yours. I did speak to the pastor of a church I one time attended about dealing with sin in the camp. Nothing was done. Now the church is on the verge of closing its doors.
Pray for a reversal.

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]]> By: Pastor Roy http://online.worldmag.com/2009/11/02/the-christian-journalists-dilemma/comment-page-1/#comment-486204 Pastor Roy Mon, 02 Nov 2009 16:53:50 +0000 http://online.worldmag.com/?p=24890#comment-486204 roger patno 11.02.09 AT 11:19 AM PASTOR ROY: If one leaves because they will not stand to be corrected,Let them go. The proverbial ‘one rotten apple…’? But always keep them in prayer. - This is a problem that need to be address. the other problem is when churches decide to change God's Word to meet the needs of the people. An when the Christian Community confront these churches, the responds is open spiritual war fare. roger patno 11.02.09 AT 11:19 AM
PASTOR ROY: If one leaves because they will not stand to be corrected,Let them go. The proverbial ‘one rotten apple…’?
But always keep them in prayer.
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This is a problem that need to be address. the other problem is when churches decide to change God’s Word to meet the needs of the people. An when the Christian Community confront these churches, the responds is open spiritual war fare.

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]]> By: Genie http://online.worldmag.com/2009/11/02/the-christian-journalists-dilemma/comment-page-1/#comment-486182 Genie Mon, 02 Nov 2009 16:26:10 +0000 http://online.worldmag.com/?p=24890#comment-486182 Klasko, I am with you - that is the correct context. That is why I find the entertainment media and Christians' engagement in it so insidious. Why do Christians want to know about these things (except in the context of helping an unbeliever or wayward believer out of the darkness), and worse yet, why do they want to VOLUNTARILY participate by watching this junk in movies and TV? If you are entertained by watching or reading unseemliness, then you are participating in it. I hate to sound so black and white, but I am speaking from experience - it's a quagmire that keeping to the narrow road would keep you from... Klasko, I am with you – that is the correct context. That is why I find the entertainment media and Christians’ engagement in it so insidious. Why do Christians want to know about these things (except in the context of helping an unbeliever or wayward believer out of the darkness), and worse yet, why do they want to VOLUNTARILY participate by watching this junk in movies and TV? If you are entertained by watching or reading unseemliness, then you are participating in it. I hate to sound so black and white, but I am speaking from experience – it’s a quagmire that keeping to the narrow road would keep you from…

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]]> By: roger patno http://online.worldmag.com/2009/11/02/the-christian-journalists-dilemma/comment-page-1/#comment-486180 roger patno Mon, 02 Nov 2009 16:21:39 +0000 http://online.worldmag.com/?p=24890#comment-486180 KLASKO: 'Sons of disobedience' were infecting the church. I stand on what I wrote. KLASKO: ‘Sons of disobedience’ were infecting the church. I stand on what I wrote.

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]]> By: roger patno http://online.worldmag.com/2009/11/02/the-christian-journalists-dilemma/comment-page-1/#comment-486173 roger patno Mon, 02 Nov 2009 16:19:00 +0000 http://online.worldmag.com/?p=24890#comment-486173 PASTOR ROY: If one leaves because they will not stand to be corrected,Let them go. The proverbial 'one rotten apple...'? But always keep them in prayer. PASTOR ROY: If one leaves because they will not stand to be corrected,Let them go. The proverbial ‘one rotten apple…’?
But always keep them in prayer.

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