Comments on: Sarkozy: “No place for the burqa” http://online.worldmag.com/2009/11/12/sarkozy-no-place-for-the-burqa/ A forum for discussion of news that arises at the intersection of Christianity and culture. Sat, 20 Mar 2010 23:50:39 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Victoria http://online.worldmag.com/2009/11/12/sarkozy-no-place-for-the-burqa/comment-page-2/#comment-491526 Victoria Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:14:52 +0000 http://online.worldmag.com/?p=25303#comment-491526 Superciliousness? Superciliousness?

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]]> By: buddyglass http://online.worldmag.com/2009/11/12/sarkozy-no-place-for-the-burqa/comment-page-2/#comment-491506 buddyglass Sun, 15 Nov 2009 13:49:31 +0000 http://online.worldmag.com/?p=25303#comment-491506 Will we outlaw clowns and mimes too? Will we outlaw clowns and mimes too?

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]]> By: Victoria http://online.worldmag.com/2009/11/12/sarkozy-no-place-for-the-burqa/comment-page-2/#comment-491501 Victoria Sun, 15 Nov 2009 05:44:09 +0000 http://online.worldmag.com/?p=25303#comment-491501 Criminals often change their appearance, but even with these changes the authorities often recognize them. FBI agents are trained in the areas of recognition as are other law enforcement persons. Dying hair, etc., are old tricks, however most people have learned that law enforcement makes photos of different ways those who are 'wanted' could have changed their appearance. All the scenarios do not equate in letting people run around with a tent over their body and a full tent over their head - Criminals often change their appearance, but even with these changes the authorities often recognize them. FBI agents are trained in the areas of recognition as are other law enforcement persons. Dying hair, etc., are old tricks, however most people have learned that law enforcement makes photos of different ways those who are ‘wanted’ could have changed their appearance.

All the scenarios do not equate in letting people run around with a tent over their body and a full tent over their head -

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]]> By: buddyglass http://online.worldmag.com/2009/11/12/sarkozy-no-place-for-the-burqa/comment-page-2/#comment-491495 buddyglass Sun, 15 Nov 2009 04:57:36 +0000 http://online.worldmag.com/?p=25303#comment-491495 #57: Seriously? Criminals can die their hair, tan their skin and wear sunglasses too. Or like KB said, wear a mask. A non-Muslim woman could wear a dark veil that covers her face and claim to be on her way to a funeral. Etc. #58: I would have supported womens' right to wear Burqas even before 9/11. And yes, the French have the right to self-govern. That doesn't mean every law they pass is right or good, which is what's being discussed here. #59: A man could cross-dress and go into a women's restroom now. Also, in a womens' restroom, the burqa-wearing woman could remove the veil portion. Since it's just women. So maybe pass a law that they have to unveil in womens' restrooms, if that's the concern. But really, is the burqua really going to help a would-be rapist that much? I mean, guy could always just walk in, go to a stall if there's nobody at the sink, sit there until there's only one person in the restroom, then go to work. No burqa required. If there's somebody at the sink when he walks in, then it's, "Oops! Sorry! Wrong door!" All the burqa does is insure he can get from the door to a stall 100% of the time. #57:

Seriously? Criminals can die their hair, tan their skin and wear sunglasses too. Or like KB said, wear a mask. A non-Muslim woman could wear a dark veil that covers her face and claim to be on her way to a funeral. Etc.

#58:

I would have supported womens’ right to wear Burqas even before 9/11. And yes, the French have the right to self-govern. That doesn’t mean every law they pass is right or good, which is what’s being discussed here.

#59:

A man could cross-dress and go into a women’s restroom now. Also, in a womens’ restroom, the burqa-wearing woman could remove the veil portion. Since it’s just women. So maybe pass a law that they have to unveil in womens’ restrooms, if that’s the concern. But really, is the burqua really going to help a would-be rapist that much? I mean, guy could always just walk in, go to a stall if there’s nobody at the sink, sit there until there’s only one person in the restroom, then go to work. No burqa required. If there’s somebody at the sink when he walks in, then it’s, “Oops! Sorry! Wrong door!” All the burqa does is insure he can get from the door to a stall 100% of the time.

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]]> By: kBells http://online.worldmag.com/2009/11/12/sarkozy-no-place-for-the-burqa/comment-page-2/#comment-491470 kBells Sun, 15 Nov 2009 00:56:05 +0000 http://online.worldmag.com/?p=25303#comment-491470 57. Then outlaw masks. 57. Then outlaw masks.

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]]> By: Cheryl D. http://online.worldmag.com/2009/11/12/sarkozy-no-place-for-the-burqa/comment-page-2/#comment-491429 Cheryl D. Sat, 14 Nov 2009 23:47:31 +0000 http://online.worldmag.com/?p=25303#comment-491429 I don't think I'd want a man in a burka using a women's bathroom, either (a potential rapist coming in as a woman). There really are a lot of reasons that covering completely in public isn't safe for other people, and I agree that a government has legitimate reasons to be concerned about the safety of its citizens. I don’t think I’d want a man in a burka using a women’s bathroom, either (a potential rapist coming in as a woman). There really are a lot of reasons that covering completely in public isn’t safe for other people, and I agree that a government has legitimate reasons to be concerned about the safety of its citizens.

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]]> By: StuBob http://online.worldmag.com/2009/11/12/sarkozy-no-place-for-the-burqa/comment-page-2/#comment-491417 StuBob Sat, 14 Nov 2009 23:26:40 +0000 http://online.worldmag.com/?p=25303#comment-491417 Y'know, there's been a France about as long as there's been Islam, and the French (whom I can't stand, as a rule) have a right to determine the rules of living there. For instance, it used to be that French women could only give their children approved French names. You want to make something up? That's tough taters in France. I don't know that this is still the case. Perhaps I missed the international uproar that resulted in its reversal. What I <i>have</i> noticed, though, is that liberals worldwide became defenders of Muslim practices on about September 12th, 2001. Y’know, there’s been a France about as long as there’s been Islam, and the French (whom I can’t stand, as a rule) have a right to determine the rules of living there. For instance, it used to be that French women could only give their children approved French names. You want to make something up? That’s tough taters in France. I don’t know that this is still the case. Perhaps I missed the international uproar that resulted in its reversal. What I have noticed, though, is that liberals worldwide became defenders of Muslim practices on about September 12th, 2001.

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]]> By: Victoria http://online.worldmag.com/2009/11/12/sarkozy-no-place-for-the-burqa/comment-page-2/#comment-491406 Victoria Sat, 14 Nov 2009 22:52:57 +0000 http://online.worldmag.com/?p=25303#comment-491406 Covering the face with a <b>MASK</b> such as the burqa impedes the ability of law enforcement to identify those who are 'WANTED' for a number of crimes. WANTED CRIMINALS could walk about freely, never being discovered because their face was covered. Covering the face with a MASK such as the burqa impedes the ability of law enforcement to identify those who are ‘WANTED’ for a number of crimes. WANTED CRIMINALS could walk about freely, never being discovered because their face was covered.

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]]> By: kBells http://online.worldmag.com/2009/11/12/sarkozy-no-place-for-the-burqa/comment-page-2/#comment-491401 kBells Sat, 14 Nov 2009 22:16:38 +0000 http://online.worldmag.com/?p=25303#comment-491401 Buddyglass has a good point. If this is a safety issue than the law should address those issues. No covering the face while driving. No baggy clothes in high risk areas such as airports. If this is a religious issue, than that's another reason I'm glad I'm not French Buddyglass has a good point. If this is a safety issue than the law should address those issues. No covering the face while driving. No baggy clothes in high risk areas such as airports. If this is a religious issue, than that’s another reason I’m glad I’m not French

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]]> By: buddyglass http://online.worldmag.com/2009/11/12/sarkozy-no-place-for-the-burqa/comment-page-2/#comment-491297 buddyglass Sat, 14 Nov 2009 14:25:39 +0000 http://online.worldmag.com/?p=25303#comment-491297 So is the Sarkozy government going to ban burqas, or is he just pontificating in order to score points with the xenophobic crowd? I can see no justification for banning them. If you're worried about safety, then ban all clothing that covers the face. Or ban all loose, baggy clothing that could conceal a bomb. But...that's sort of nutty. So is the Sarkozy government going to ban burqas, or is he just pontificating in order to score points with the xenophobic crowd?

I can see no justification for banning them. If you’re worried about safety, then ban all clothing that covers the face. Or ban all loose, baggy clothing that could conceal a bomb. But…that’s sort of nutty.

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