Whirled Views 11.24
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Devotional thought for the day from the Moody Bible Institute; Today in the Word:
TODAY IN THE WORD
According to a February 13, 2009, New York Times article, a recent study of 46,000 workers showed that health care costs were 147 percent higher for those who were stressed or depressed than for workers who were not. Other recent studies suggest that stress should be considered a health threat, along with smoking or lack of exercise. We know that anxiety can make it harder to concentrate or sleep, but studies show that it also increases the risk for certain illnesses, such as high blood pressure.
Today’s passage from Matthew addresses the problem of anxiety head on. These verses continue Jesus’ teaching about possessions. In Matthew 6:19-24, Jesus warns against seeking treasures on earth. Today’s passage presents another aspect of Jesus’ teaching on possessions. While Matthew 6:19-24 focuses on the preoccupation with wealth and what we might hope to have, Matthew 6:25-34 concerns worry about what we don’t have.
A helpful starting place for this discussion is to note the difference between needs and wants. This passage assures us that God cares about our needs and provides for them, although perhaps in ways that differ from our expectations. For example, we may receive kids’ clothes from a relative whose children have out-grown these clothes, or we may decide that last year’s styles still look pretty good, rather than purchasing new items. We may also consider those who have less than we have and decide that we can part with some items from our closet. Sometimes having fewer things even makes us feel less anxious!
The key point in this passage is that we aren’t to worry about what we don’t have because our heavenly Father already knows what we need. He will provide what we need, which may shift our focus away from what we want. Regardless, being anxious doesn’t help—in fact, it hurts us physically, emotionally, and spiritually.
http://www.todayintheword.com/GenMoody/default.asp?sectionid=ABECA3F4F745454090BB3C5F613C9CE7&month=11&day=24&year=2009
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I will be praying for you Mickey as you referee Roper Room this today.
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Joe thank you for this mornings devotional. Releasing “things” will set you free. Chas counselled me to let go of my father’s things. When I did I kept what was truly meaningful. (Many people may wonder why I have a 44 extra long men’s suit hanging in my closet, but it still smells like him) Everyone here knows that over the past couple of years I have been somewhat of a gypsy and have plans to continue for a while so I thought it was quite humorous that I have donated so much “stuff” that recently the Women’s Council of Realtor’s had a yard sale to raise money and each member was to donate 5 items. I COULDN’T. I could only come up with 4! And I am living proof God provides our needs. Otherwise I wouldn’t have made it this far.
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Mickey, I am sure Joe meant to say Romper Room…I will pray for you as well.
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I found on Drudge, a link that shows that ACORN dumped lots of documents into the trash just before the Atty. General of California came to visit. Too much for here, visit the site.
http://biggovernment.com/2009/11/23/breaking-san-diego-acorn-document-dump-scandal/
Some excerpts.
“Documents shared with BigGovernment.com include information exposing not only the inner workings of ACORN in California, but also personal, sensitive information belonging to employees, members and clients of ACORN. ACORN and its few remaining defenders insist that the “good” ACORN provides outweighs the transgressions exposed in the recent undercover video sting. But, ACORN’s massive dumping of these documents and the cavalier manner in which it betrayed the trust of its supporters betrays that talking point. (Unlike ACORN, we have redacted sensitive and personal information.)”
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“If California Attorney General Jerry Brown and United States Attorney General Eric Holder refuse to truly investigate ACORN, and if the mainstream media refuses to engage in the investigative reporting that they used to do, then it will continue to be up to citizen journalists and investigators to expose the dirty, rotten underbelly of ACORN.”
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Any lawyer will tell you that the worst thing to do if you think an investigation is coming is to destroy potential evidence. Documents known to have existed, or that any reasonable organization should have had, but that cannot be produced in discovery are always presumed to be prejudicial against the party who should have had the document.” …
It goes on, and on.
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I find, Kim, that when I start my day out with the Lord Jesus, no matter what the devil throws at me, the Lord provides me the strength to carry on.
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I am so ashamed of my city.
Yesterday the Baltimore City Council voted to require Crisis Pregnancy Centers to post signs on their doors that they do not provide abortion services. What other business in the entire country is required to advertise what they DON’T provide?
This bill won’t become law until the Mayor signs it, which she probably will after she gets out of court today, where she is being tried for keeping and using gift cards that were given to the city to be distributed to the poor.
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The kid’s sick. I praying it’s not H1NI. Coughing, slight sore throat, no fever or headache yet. Keeping him home from school and away from Daddy just in case.
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I don’t think Obama’s latest pledge to announce his Afghanistan decision over Thanksgiving is a good sign. Holiday announcements are for decisions that won’t stand up to public scrutiny.
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Amphip, also the talk shows don’t get to it. Everybody will be watching the Rose Parade, not listening to Beck.
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Oops, never mind – I took “in the next few days” as the next two or three days. Apparently it is scheduled for next Tuesday.
I should have known that, in this regard, days meant a week.
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President Obama is expected to announce his Afghanistan policy with an address to the nation next Tuesday, Dec. 1, likely in prime time, officials told POLITICO.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1109/29865.html
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Kbells,
Yeah, hope it’s not H1N1, but swine has swept through my boys high school and pretty much just came and went like any other flu.
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Today’s Overheard comes from Nebraska:
Guess I Need Bigger Sunglasses
Young boy to father: Dad, do you know those girls?
Father: No!
Young boy: Oh, ’cause you keep staring at them…
–Lake McConaughy, Nebraska
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Mommy, the Crisis Pregnancy Center should challenge that one in court!
This was in my email this morning. I know it will start the Christmas “war” again, I can’t reproduce the font, but you’ll get the message:
Twas the month before Christmas*
*When all through our land,*
*Not a Christian was praying*
*Nor taking a stand.*
*See the PC Police had taken away,*
*The reason for Christmas – no one could say.*
*The children were told by their schools not to sing,*
*About Shepherds and Wise Men and Angels and things.*
*It might hurt people’s feelings, the teachers would say*
* December 25th is just a ‘ Holiday ‘.*
*Yet the shoppers were ready with cash, checks and credit*
*Pushing folks down to the floor just to get it!*
*CDs from Madonna, an X BOX, an I-pod*
*Something was changing, something quite odd! *
*Retailers promoted Ramadan and Kwanzaa*
*In hopes to sell books by Franken & Fonda.*
*As Targets were hanging their trees upside down*
* At Lowe’s the word Christmas – was nowhere to be found.*
*At K-Mart and Staples and Penny’s and Sears*
*You won’t hear the word Christmas; it won’t touch your ears.*
*Inclusive, sensitive, Di-ver-si-ty*
*Are words that were used to intimidate me.*
*Now Daschle, Now Darden, Now Sharpton, Wolf Blitzen*
*On Boxer, on Rather, on Kerry, on Clinton !*
*At the top of the Senate, there arose such a clatter*
*To eliminate Jesus, in all public matter.*
*And we spoke not a word, as they took away our faith*
* Forbidden to speak of salvation and grace*
*The true Gift of Christmas was exchanged and discarded*
*The reason for the season, stopped before it started.*
*So as you celebrate ‘Winter Break’ under your ‘Dream Treee’*
*Sipping your Starbucks, listen to me.*
*Choose your words carefully, choose what you say*
*Shout MERRY CHRISTMAS ,
not Happy Holiday !*
Please, all Christians join together and wish everyone you meet during the holidays a MERRY CHRISTMAS
Christ is The Reason for the Christ-mas Season!
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KBells, they have told doctors to stop wearing neckties in NJ.
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One more:
Guy with board, about water: It’s flatter than my abs out here!
–Perdido Key, Florida
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16. Why?
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JoeB, very timely, especially for me. I have come to realization that God has really provided for me, the things I need. I can look back and see His hand.
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NJL – Christ is the reason for the season – Amen!
I bet that crisis pregnancy center would win.
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KBells — germs!
I think they would, too. Nana. It’s not like they are out there deceiving someone. They aren’t. PP has to be behind that little piece of legislation.
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16. Oh I found it. Neckties pick up germs.
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If I have to take him to the Doctor I will instruct him not to touch the tie.
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Planned Parenthood is absolutely and unashamedly behind the bill. And in this crazy liberal state, I’m not so sure a challenge will hold up. Also not sure if the Centers will have the money and enthusiasm to take it to the Supremes (and what would THEY do with it??)
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Apparently, people don’t take their neckties to the dry cleaners.
And don’t let the tie hang over the kid!
Whatever happened to tie pins, etc.
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Mommy, I think your earlier comment that businesses don’t advertise services they don’t provide makes sense. How many signs do you see like that? I’m thinking there’s a little discrimination going on here. I’m thinking if PP wants to put up signs they should put one in their own window: “Babies killed here” would say it all, don’t you think?
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Since about 1988 Crisis Pregnancy Center’s phone books ads have to be listed under “abortion alternatives” instead of “abortion services.” We worried about that, too, until we realized “abortion alternatives” comes before “abortion services,” in the alphabet.
I don’t know if that’s changed the number of calls we get, but for many women uncertain about their pregnancies, alternatives sounds more promising.
Also, if asked, I tell women on the phone that we are a counseling group, not a medical group that performs abortions. We have a medical clinic that offers free ultrasounds, but that is not our primary focus.
“The truth shall set you free and you shall be free indeed.” Women should not come in with false expectations– that can harm our ability to minister to them. If they come in understanding we will discuss their situation with them with a listening ear and help them, that can be a balm to their heart and soul.
So, while I agree it is unfortunate the city council has taken aim at a free service designed for women who need help– the work is done with no hope of gain and staffed by volunteers or people who make very little money, and performs a much needed community service– God remains in charge. Some may have intended this decision for evil, but God can always use it for the good.
Thanks be to God.
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Oh, and Chas, the Rose Bowl is in Pasadena on January 1 . . .
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Hadn’t heard of the necktie issue with doctors and germs but have you ever wondered how often they have their lab coats laundered?
Not very often from what I’ve heard and that’s day after day and patient after patient.
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NJL, I think there was a similar PP objection in NYS that wanted to force crisis preganancy centers to state in their phone book listings to state that they didn’t offer “abortion counseling” services. I think PP might have won that one. What about NJ yellow pages?
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May you all have a hearty Thanksgiving feast surrounded by family and friends!
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The necktie issue was in the Wall Street Journal last week. Even if the tie is not dangling (i.e. they use tie pins or simply keep it under the lab coat, it is at just the right level to catch whatever comes out when the patient coughs or sneezes (while you’re being examined it may not be the easiest thing to throw up your arm to cover your face). The article pointed out that most ties can’t be washed with regular laundry. It didn’t mention drycleaning – does that kill germs?
While it talked about how the germs get on the tie, it didn’t explain how the germs get back off the tie ot spread disease. Though I suppose that perhaps when the doctor is putting his stethoscope on or off (back around his neck), his hand may rub against his tie, then touch the patient. All the handwashing they require now doesn’t help that much if you’re carrying around the stock of germs on your clothing.
There is speculation that the rule against ties is getting a lot of support from younger doctors who don’t like wearing ties and use the hygiene issue is a convenient excuse. I don’t remember whether my doctor wears one – and I hope I don’t have to see him again until next spring (when I request a seasonal prescription of nasal spray before allergy season starts). (I had my yearly pap smear and mammogram right before the new recommendations were released.)
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Not to mention that they have actually found neckties sewn up in patients, years after surgeries.
Why they have not only found neckties sewn up into patients; they have also found tieclips, cufflinks, bow ties, cravats, mufflers, ladies purses, hats (including old fashioned stovepipe hats), tuxedos, complete three piece mens suits with the handkerchief still neatly folded in the breast pockets, evening dresses, Oriental rugs, tarps, lingerie, hoop skirts, girdles, chaps, cowboy boots, shoes, welding helmets, umbrellas, dog leashes, dogs, and, on more than one occasion, entire clothing store clerks, still with their name badges pinned on their shirts.
Why one guy even vows that he had two large loads of dirty laundry accidentally sewn up into him during a relatively minor operation to remove a wart.
Thirty years later, during exploratory surgery, doctors discovered and removed all the laundry – and as they removed it they noticed that it had been apparently washed, folded and pressed, with shirts hung on hangers and collars neatly buttoned.
But you really do have to wonder about what actually goes on in operating rooms these days.
It’s enough to give me the heebie-jeebies.
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NJL, I think you are correct.
Michele, I think you are correct, too, and had the same thought that this probably won’t really change anything. But the idea of PP and our City Council pushing for it makes my blood boil.
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Michelle #28
I knew that. I meant the Macy’s Thanksgiving Parade. But since the decision is made Dec. 1, that doesn’t apply either.
Just delete #10, it didn’t happen. ,-)
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Kbells, My grandson had symptoms of H1N1. My daughter (who works in a daycare) brought him and his two brothers in for a shots appointment to her clinic and was told that he probably didn’t have it and she should get the vaccine for him. He was over the symptoms by just a day or so, BTW. They also told her it was fine for him to return to daycare. They would not vaccinate her.
She then came down with the same symptoms and was told it was probably H1N1 and she needs to stay out of work for at least seven days and come in and get the shot now. No one was tested, since it takes two weeks to get the results.
Quite confusing. She felt quite bad she had allowed her son back in daycare, but she followed the clinic’s advice.
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As I’ve gotten older and more cynical (God have mercy on my soul!), I find myself wondering about the motivations of incidents like this in Baltimore. Who is the decision trying to help? And why?
Following the money is always helpful, too, and I always wonder why Planned Parenthood cares if PCCs exist? We help women make informed decisions, something Planned Parenthood claims to be interested in. We don’t take any money for our services, but if someone choses to carry their child, they don’t abort–so I suppose you could say we’re depriving PP of some income. But Planned Parenthood gets a huge subsidy from the federal government, and other governmental agencies. If a city is cash-strapped, wouldn’t it be in their best interest to not fund Planned Parenthood?
Of course raising a child costs money, and many of our clients end up in the governmental social services sector–which then costs the tax payers money. But, should we really be regarding babies through the lens of a cost-benefit analysis?
Upfront costs are enormous–but if raised correctly, society as a whole should reap the rewards of children who become functioning adults. Shouldn’t it? I mean, our social security payments depend on those kids . . .
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Drill, I was pretty sure they had sewn something up in me after my first C-Section. I had a sharp pain from the time of the first one to the second one. I listened intently during the second surgery. At one point the doctor did say, “Hey, look at this!” I never did fine out what was so interesting.
The rest of the time, they talked about some party someone had been at. Weird. BTW, I didn’t have the pain anymore after the second surgery. Very strange.
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He is a little prone to sinus problems and that is probably the problem. He has no fever or headache. But since H1N1 has been around the church and this is a last day before a holiday break, I decided not to take a chance on infecting other children. He is felling well enough to be a little annoying.
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Michelle, I think it is just (just!?) a spiritual battle and the people involved don’t even think about it enough to have a rational reason. I don’t know what they say, though, to justify what they are doing. I suppose they don’t want a bait and switch? Of course, OTOH, they are also against women actually getting all the facts, so that doesn’t really cut it.
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Kbells, when my grandson had it, my daughter said he acted fine for most of the time, but had symptoms of a cold. She did finally take his temperature and it was over 102. She was shocked, since he had just been playing at the park and did not act that sick.
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KI: Yeah, who would NOT worry should a doctor say ‘Hey, look at this!’ during surgery.
And if they call the TV station and start snapping pictures of each other in front of you, while holding something up in front of them (the something still attached to parts of you by various stringy tubular stuff), get a lawyer and a Public Relations specialist just as soon as you can.
Seriously, don’t they put you completely out for a C-section? I thought they did. I know I would want to be put completely out.
Of course, personally, the question has never come up for me. And is not likely to come up, come to think of it.
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This ought to be getting more attention.
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/politics/Inspector-general_-Rhee-intervened-for-Johnson-8577747-71924762.html
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Thanks NJL #15
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No, Drill, I was wide awake during my C-Sections. They do put you to sleep later and, of course, deaden the pain (until later!).
I was pretty much blind, though, until my third one when my doctor made them give me back my glasses so I could actually see my baby. The doctor wore glasses and understood.
Glad the media didn’t get involved in my case. I’m pretty sure if you end up with a C-Section, they will get involved.
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Doctors should at least WASH or clean their hands after entering a room. This was not done at the urgent care center we went to, when at the height of H1N1. Then he shook our hands. I was hesitant to touch him–I had just seen a couple of contagious students that were in the waiting room.
Is wearing a tie a requirement in doc school?
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I knew there had to be a good reason why I stopped wearing ties. Now maybe I can just say that I don’t want to give other people my germs instead of saying I feel like somebody is choking me. One of our sales guys set up an appointment with a huge client two weeks ago and he kept begging me to wear a tie to the meeting because these were serious people and a tie would show respect. I of course didn’t and began my presentation with an apology for not wearing a tie. One of the men in the meeting stood up and said, “oh we were only wearing ties because we thought that would be more professional but if you’re cool without one, then so are we” and they all removed their ties and we had a lovely meeting.
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I’ll bet it will be a long time before Mickey starts another thread on health care after our latest round with the oh so objective one.
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CHAS #5
So the Atty Gen waited long enough for ACORN to dump files. “We are coming to get your files, are you finished getting rid of the bad files yet?” Doesn’t the Atty Gen work for Mr. ACORN himself?
And when does all the GOOD you do outweigh the BAD? If that were the case, then should we really send ANYONE to jail?
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I thought Hindus did not kill animals, and were vegetarians, even, due to their belief that all life was sacred.
So how about this?:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091124/ap_on_re_as/as_nepal_animal_sacrifice
200000 animals being sacrificed in a Hindu festival.
Any Hindus around here to explain this?
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IAF #48
Yeah, but I thought this thread would be all about evilution. Those threads are a mile long also, no?
Instead I find that it’s about doctor’s dirty ties and how SOME doctors are slobs–don’t clean their lab coats, and leave non-evolutionary stuff behind in someone’s insides during surgery.
I WAS thinking about prolapse surgery for after Christmas. Maybe I’ll wait.
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IAF #47
There is intelligent life out there after all–the nice businessmen.
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Hi everyone. There is a situation in my town where a man has locked himself in his pizza parlor and is burning money and acohol and threatening to blow the building up. Several blocks are closed off and they have turned off the gas to the building. Please pray this can end soon and peacefully.
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Yes, KIM – Amen.
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Quote NJLawyer #15:
*And we spoke not a word, as they took away our faith*
Thankfully, no one can do this.
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Kim – gives new meaning to “money to burn”.
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I have only been back in the states for a year and I am really disturbed about something. When did people start saying “Happy Holiday’s”? Is there something inherently wrong with saying “Happy Thanksgiving”? Or “Merry Christmas”? I stopped at a 7-11 to get my morning coffee like I always do and the clerk who knows me well said “Happy Holiday’s” and I said back “Happy Thanksgiving you mean?” and she looked at me with a horrified look and said “we’re not allowed to say that anymore, only Happy Holiday’s”.
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Re: the ACORN file dumping, here in San Diego.
I wouldn’t be at all surprised if Atty Gen Jerry Brown warned ACORN that their files would be examined. He’s running for Governor in this liberal ACORN [and SEIU] infested state and wants their support. Actually, it was reported that his first reaction to the undercover tapes of ACORN employees inappropriate actions was to threaten to investigate the two young people that showed what this organization was really like. His office only started to investigate the charges against ACORN after there was an outcry about that.
Now that it’s getting closer to election time, Brown has suddenly be prominent in all kinds of investigations/legal matters. Previously, he seemed to stay out of sight.
When he was governor in the past, he earned the nickname “Governor Moonbeam,” because he seemed to live in a dreamworld. I wonder what we’ll nickname him if he gets elected again.
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the situation is over. Hopefully he will get some help.
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News2 and Kayvee,I cut the following from WV 11.20 #56. The link there is informative.
BREITBART: And this message is to Attorney General Holder. I want you to know that we have more tapes. It’s not just ACORN. And we’re going to hold out until the next election cycle.
Or else, if you want to do a clean investigation, we will give you the rest of what we have. We will comply with you. We will give you the documentation we have from countless ACORN whistleblowers who want to come forward but are fearful of this organization and the retribution that they fear, that this is a dangerous organization.
So if you get into an investigation, we will give you the tapes. And if you don’t give us the tapes, we will revisit these tapes come election time.
The threat was also made to the Cal. Atty. General.
As I said, This is big.
The big problem is: Obams IS ACORN. They can’t allow this to happen.
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Breitbart and Beck are dangerous to Obama. Something must be done.
Rush is saying that only FoxNews is reporting on Climate Gate. I don’t doubt that.
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I must say, I’m looking forward to the 2010 and 2012 elections. Who would have thought the tumble in popularity would have been so swift?
Border Kitty attacked me in bed again early (too early) this morning, biting my ear and scratching my head to tell me it’s her highness’s breakfast time. This time I just got up, put a bowl of kibble down in the spare room for her, and shut the door behind me, going back to bed. Cats seemingly will not be trained.
She’ll no doubt be a good mouser someday, if I ever survive to see it.
Chas, there’s a nice Thanksgiving Day dog show on NBC, right after the Macy Parade.
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Hopesprings, I know that, but I think it refers to government action in the sense of not allowing anything Christian to stand. Can they take my individual faith? No.
This reminds me of Donna’s (I think) point in the Kennedy thread that her minister has conjectured that perhaps what has befallen the Nation is the result of our not turning away from that sin as a Nation.
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I do not know about the NJ yellow pages, and if I had to find the NJ yellow pages……I’m thinking I can’t.
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For those friends that have been praying for my wife and I as we been working to loose weight. I thought I would share my progress. I started out at 420 lbs in January. I am now down to 283 as of this morning. I have gone from a 65 inch waist to a 48 inch waist. My goal is 200lbs by next November 11th. I want to be able to wear my dress blues again on Veterans Day 2010. Please keep praying for me.
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The Keurig coffee maker in my office makes a sound like the strangling of a furry little creature every time it makes a cup of coffee. So where’s the creamer?
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Chas – The big problem is: Obams IS ACORN. They can’t allow this to happen”
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Chas the result of ACORN not having money is NJ and VI wins for the Republicans
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It’s been reported lately that the Administration’s $18 million website is reporting utterly incorrect numbers of jobs saved.
My question? Why does a web site cost $18 million????!!!
Do you think Drudge or Kos or World Magazine have costs like that?
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Who would like to volunteer to go through he archives and compile a “Best Of Drill”, because I would be willing to pay for that.
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JoeB, congratulations! I wish I could be as dedicated on this front as you obviously are. My only hope is if I don’t buy it, I won’t be able to eat it.
DonnaJ, this morning I got up to feed the cat when the alarm went off, after about half an hour of “woe is me” movements, scratches of furniture, etc. He went into the kitchen, but he wasn’t sure I was following him or veering off to the bathroom. What a desperate look on the face as his head peaked out of the doorframe. But he calmed down when I went to the kitchen first.
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JoeB, that is amazing. Congratulations, friend, and praise God.
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NJLawyer, your comment about not buying it reminded me of our pastor’s story last week about how he was in a very long line at the grocery store but the woman in front of him was buying only some ice cream bars. He sort of joked with her and she got all embarrassed, said she should really be buying them. Our pastor laughed and said, “well you could put them in the freezer and then pray not to eat them.”
But better yet, he pointed out to us later, would have been not buying them in the first place, of course. (The discussion, as you may have guessed, was on avoiding temptation — for each of us, temptations can be different!).
On the cat — ugh. She’s training me well, I fear.
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Obama is hinting that he is going to demand air time to tell the American People he is going to send troops to Afghanistan. My question is how many time will he attack Bush in that speech.
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JoeB – Congratulations on the weight loss! As one who’s fought that battle most of my adult life, I’d be envious if it wasn’t sinful
How have you managed to stick to your program? I’ve been on hiatus from Weight Watchers for a few weeks, but I’ll be going back in a couple of weeks [I'm waiting only for the discount coupons I get from my insurance co]. Living alone, I find it hard to want to actually cook meals, frequently choosing what ever’s handy or eating out. I’ve started to take Romans 7:14-25 very personally, I even installed it on the document reader on my phone yesterday, so I can keep referring to it.
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69: I think maybe a blog just of Drill posts would be a good comic relief sometimes.
Chas- Re: your parade goof. Call it “vorrect Firday”.
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Historical evidence from the late 19th and early 20th century supports the thesis that Darwinism, by devaluing human life, contributed ratinal for sterilization, eugenics, euthanasia, abortion and infanticide.
Darwinist thinking in modern society has contributed to the erosion of the sanctity of life ethic.
Darwinism is really a matter of life and death.
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Donna, your pastor’s words hopefully will stay with me. I won’t be able to go to a store today, but tomorrow……
I haven’t wanted to tell you that you would be trained, but I’ve always known it to be your future.
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JoeB – that is awesome on the weight loss, absolutely phenomenol and I am sure that by God’s grace you will fit back into your dress blues next Veteran’s Day.
I am engaging in a huge push to get into way better shape before I leave for Nepal on Dec 27. Part of the trip is meeting with a Sherpa church plant at base camp in the Himalaya’s and I know that right now my cardio is nowhere near what I need to be. After last night’s workout with a trainer I thought I was near death but it will all be worth it when I can move around without the locals having to wait on me because I am out of shape. This trip will be really fun as we start out at the base camp and then travel down to the border where my buddy has set up a ministry operation where young girls who have been rescued from the sex slave industry are then trained to do a business, discipled and then sent back to their home villages and families. Many of these girls were kidnapped but some of them were sold so it is important to make sure we provide them with everything they need to be a vital part of their society again.
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JoeB, I have been praying for your wife, and will add you to my prayers.
You won’t think it’s funny, but I got alarmed when I hit 170# and decided to start watching it again. (I just ate an apple to keep from snatching a couple of cookies.) It’s harder to do in the wintertime because the kitchen is so close. Sometimes people, including me, eat because of boredom.
Rush is big on the climatology scam exposure today. If all you get is the MSM, you may not hear about it.
But this exposure clearly exposes the conspiritual nature of the scam. There is lots of money involved in global warming, and many industries, such as GE are behind it.
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KBells and Peter L – Some of us suggested awhile back the Drill write a book of his funny vignettes and call it Drill Bits.
IMHO, The funniest by far was the one about the automatic umbrella that deployed in the cab of his truck.
I would buy such a book.
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I have since looked for that vignette and cannot find it.
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Joe B – Congratulations from someone else who struggles with weight issues. I know it wasn’t easy for you. I’ll be praying for your continued success.
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AboutFreedom, my middle granddaughter went on a mission trip to Nepal about three years ago. She went to Kathmandu and took the kamikazee flight to a small field in the Hymalayas. They said it was perfectly safe, they hadn’t had a fatality in six months. She said she didn’t ride a vehicle for six weeks. She cold see Mt. Everest from her front door. The only digestive problems occurred when she returned and ate American food.
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JoeB, Congratulations! That is wonderful.
AboutFreedom, that sounds like a wonderful undertaking.
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Speaking of Darwin…Ligonier’s November issue of Tabletalk is about him. Here’s an interesting tidbit: the last paragraph of the second edition of his “Origin of Species”, Darwin added a reference to the Creator as the author and designer of it all.
“There is a granduer in this view of life, with its several powers, having been originally breathed by the creator into a few forms or into one;and that, whilst this has gone cycling on according to the fixed law of gravity, from so simple a beginning endless forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been, and are being evolved.”
Russ Pulliam, writer of the main Tabletalk article points out that, “Darwin tried to rule out God, but not because of evidence he saw in nature. Instead, he struggled with the problem of evil and the fall. He suffered personal pain from his own ailments, and he was devastated by his daughter’s tragic death.”
Darwin was a complex man (like us all) and it helps to better understand his work if we understand the social, economical, cultural and scientific times in which he lived and worked as well as his personal experiences.
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Klasko,
It’s post #27 in http://online.worldmag.com/2008/01/21/whirled-views-121-2/
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Chas – the Sherpa church plant is in a tent like permanent structure at the base camp for Mt. Everest and I believe that plane flight is the one my local buddy is describing as the “plane ride of terror”. I am actually looking forward to this trip and can’t wait to see what God is going to do.
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I still remember Drill’s Aerostar story. He had me rolling on the floor with that one.
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NJLawyer (77): And with me! (the words). Point being, that temptation is much easier and better avoided at the beginning rather than as we allow it to come closer …. (basket) … and closer (grocery bag) …. and closer (kitchen cupboard or refrigerator) …. and closer (in my hands! Unwrapped!! Mmmm, smells so good ….Just one won’t hurt.).
Yes, cats are rather good trainers I’m finding out. Those little razor-sharp teeth and claws are wonderful tutors.
No wonder the dogs are so wary of her!
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Pauline!!! Thank You, Thank You, THANK YOU!!
I searched one day for about an hour and then gave it up. How did you find it so fast?
Now I have cut it and pasted it into a doc so I can print it out and chuckle at it any time I want.
Thanks!
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Klasko,
I used google and searched on: WMB drill umbrella. It was one of the top hits.
I don’t always find what I’m looking for, but I’m pretty good at it.
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I carried a drill bit with me all the way to China so when my brother took the photo of me on the Great Wall–reading a World Magazine–those of you in the know could see that piece of metal between my fingers.
Alas, I couldn’t find the bit in my suitcase the day we went to the wall, and World hasn’t published my photo anyway (or Mark Roth’s either), so the joke never worked. But the umbrella in the truck story . . . . thanks, Pauline. Even my family has heard and laughed through that one.
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The umbrella story is hilarious, I hadn’t remembered ever seeing it. Now I have to stop laughing and get back to work. Everyone’s staring at me.
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Donna, your “logic” is impeccable and closely follows mine. There is absolutely no reason for me to go to the grocery sstore tonight — well, maybe I should buy some litter….so you see what happens.
Last night my little guy, who knows how I feel about scratching my sofa taunted me by whacking at it to see how I would react. He forces me to get up and then he runs.
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From the Washington Times 11/23/09
By Audrey Hudson
The Army has guidelines on how to deal with racist views and actions within the ranks, but none on how to deal with Islamic jihadism, a former Army vice chief of staff told Congress on Thursday.
Retired Army Gen. John M. Keane said this absence of guidance fostered a politically correct reluctance to investigate the man accused in the Fort Hood shootings, Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan.
A military pamphlet created after the 1995 racially motivated shootings at Fort Bragg is the intended guidebook on how to deal with extremist activities and prohibited conduct but is mostly focused on white supremacist behavior, Gen. Keane told the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee in the first congressional oversight hearing on the Fort Hood shootings.
“Clearly we don’t have specific guidelines in dealing with jihadist extremists,” Gen. Keane told the Senate homeland security committee.
It goes on:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/nov/20/army-lacks-guide-on-jihadists-in-ranks/
Bottom Line: We are dealing with an enemy we can’t define. You court trouble if you attempt to define him.
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Jersey – I find that a squirt bottle with a long reach filled with water does the trick. Then I don’t have to get up to deal with my kitty, MisChief. Mine reaches accross the room, and my aim is good enough to hit her when she’s running.
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Chas – Well the reasonable man with a modicum of common sense has no problem defining the enemy. But more and more, and especially in government entities, common sense isn’t.
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KLasko, I used the squirt bottle on little guy’s predecessor. While I think it might work with current guy who can’t stand a drop of anything on his fur (who will even stop mid-run to lick his fur straight if it is out of place), predecessor guy could have had been dripping water from his face and he still wouldn’t stop what he was doing, usually stalking me at my heels ready to jump up. It had no impact at all.
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I just saw the article Drill refers to about Hindus. That is sick. Have these people ever wondered why they have nothing and live in such squalor, that perhaps their “goddess” doesn’t do much for them?
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NJL, you should go to Random’s blog (Vanity Press) and look at the video he has linked there.
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I tried Mommy. I put in Vanity Press blogs and ended up with Canadian politics. I need more information. I’m not going to see dead animals, am I?
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NJL: I thought Hindus were polytheistic…? You can get to his blog by clicking on his name.
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Thanks for the umbrella link! I copied his tractor story, but regretted not having saved the umbrella story; those two are probably tied for favorite with me. (I read the tractor one out loud to my sister when it was posted, since I kept telling her how funny Drill was, and I thought it only fair to share. BTW, is it pathetic that my sister knows a lot of you by name even though she has never visited this blog and doesn’t even own a computer?!)
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I think they are polytheistic. What I read about this event was that it is devoted to some goddess with people looking for good luck from her. My point is, if you’ve been doing this for centuries and you still live in squalor, don’t you ever wonder about the goddess’ performance record?
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#65
Congratulations, Joe! That’s wonderful. I’m impressed and proud of you. That is a lot of hard work.
What are you doing to help you lose so much weight (concerned overweight people everywhere are listening with baited breath!)
Keep up the good work.
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Drill really should collect some of these — or at least have his own blog.
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Oh, and on training cats, there are a lot of reasons I don’t own a cat and never will, and that’s definitely up there. (If it were me, I think the cat would sleep in the spare bedroom with the door closed every night after doing that just once–and she most certainly would not be “rewarded” with breakfast. Again, there are reasons I don’t have a cat.) But then, I have awakened to barking more times than I like (but cats are sometimes responsible for that too–Misten knows now not to bark back if a dog barks outside, but she barks if a cat yowls).
A couple of hours ago I was getting ready to leave my house and walk to the bank, and Misten was absolutely determined to go along. She shows her desire for a walk by tearing pell-mell through the house and barking. I know, I know, which animal is untrained now. And I admit that if she gets excited enough when I put on my shoes, sometimes she convinces me that she won’t live without a walk / hopping in the backseat while I go to the bank, etc., because the more excited she gets, the more obvious it is she really does need exercise. But this was an errand on which she couldn’t go along.
Finally I told her to lie down, and I wish I had the results on video. She obeyed instantly, but the drop into “down” was every bit as energetic and dramatic as a leap in the air would have been.
Oh, and she repaid me for my selfishly going without her when I came home and was trying to get several bags of groceries in the front door at the same time, by taking the rare excuse to slip past me and go take her own walk! She really doesn’t do that very often, but she needed the exercise, and she was going to get it, with or without me. And she refused to come to me and refused to come inside the front door . . . but when I went around back and unlocked the gate, sure enough she came right in, as though that’s the only proper way for a collie to enter this territory. But meanwhile she had a few minutes of running around, so she did get her exercise.
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I went to his blog using yesterday’s WV. Didn’t see anything about the Hindus.
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Yeah, well, you have that dog training thing down really good there, Cheryl.
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I have a suggestion that works for us and cats.
Now, first of all, Donna, as a dog person, I thin you might be way too tolerant of your naughty kitty. Trust me, as a cat person…they can learn. They’re just a bit more stubborn and haughty than dogs.
At any rate, our animals get fed right before we go to bed. Yes, bed. Not in the morning. So, they are not hungry in the morning, and they all let us sleep.
It’s just a thought. Change the routine, and you might get different results.
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Well, gee, thanks.
Maybe I could write a book and become famous and then move to NY City and rent a fancy flat in some snobby, upper crust, artsy district full of little cafes where they only sell squid soup and fricasseed snails, and where on all the street corners scrawny, pale, bespectacled musicians pluck harps and weakly warble about whales and global warming, where all the females look like males and all the males look like females, and the poodle dogs wear sweaters and hats and have attitudes, and the bookstores are all clerked by wheezing, old, fat, bald, liberal guys with long hair tied up in pigtails and wearing t-shirts with faded pictures of Hugo Chavez, and everybody rides titanium bicycles or drives Mr. Bean cars and shaves their legs, in order to reduce wind drag and also to reflect more solar radiation back out into space, hence reducing global warming.
And maybe I could grow a little goatee and start smoking them real thin long French cigarettes, wear gobs of expensive jewelry and start lisping a bit and giggling and flouncing around and flapping my hands when I speak, and then buy me a jet and jet off to Hollywood to party all night long with Jolie and Brad and Elton John and Donald Trump, start snorting cocaine, and then maybe even get invited to the White House to shoot some hoops.
So.
Will you still LIKE me, even after all that?
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TRS, stinkpot has food available at all times. There are always crunchies there. Indeed, when we go into the kitchen together in the morning after his display, he goes straight for that bowl.
Never tried the right before bed thing. Are you suggesting that I feed him at 5 p.m. one night and then put out the morning can before I go to bed?
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Drill, not if that’s what it does to you.
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Obama Shatters Spending Record for First-Year Presidents
The federal government spent $3.5 trillion during President Obama’s first year in office. This far exceeds the spending for any other first-year president
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I didn’t have time to read all the messages. Did people refrain from talking about “Darwinism?”
My wife and I observed Random Granddaughter in kindergarten today. She performed as a cow in a very PC version of the Gingerbread Man.
At recess we observed her with the evil peer is is considered a bad influence on her. She has been told to at least be a good influence. We did observe her attempting to be a good influence. We are about to have a mini-pre-Thanksgiving dinner of roast chicken with the mommies. I will see how the kindergarten soap opera stands.
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Well, NJL, for what it’s worth, Misten really is usually a lot more obedient than that. But exercise really does matter in a dog’s obedience level, and when she’s hyper like that I figure it’s more my fault than hers. And so I try to let her run off steam a bit before I even try to give her any commands (that way she is simply running around and not actually disobeying me–and I’m not pushing her into a position where she’s LIKELY to disobey me). And honestly, she hasn’t done that “nanny nanny nanny, I’m outside and you can’t catch me” thing for more than a year now. (For a minute or two she’ll run if she’s loose, yeah, but then she’ll come to me. This time she wouldn’t come, and that was the difference.) And when I went to the back and opened the gate, she came straight in.
But would she get away with coming to me in the morning and deliberately waking me up so she could get fed? No, she wouldn’t. And she really is a very good dog and a sweet friend, in spite of the occasional bursts of mischief. And the mischief often gives me something to laugh at (silently, lest I encourage her). And when I made her lie down earlier when her tearing around the house was just a little too insane, her jump from running and dancing to lying flat on the floor, legs akimbo, in an immediate stop-what-I-’m-doing-and-obey was one instance where the very opposite of mischief brought a chance to laugh.
I’ll also say that this is a herding dog, amazingly aware of her body size and what she’s doing, and she can tear around the house insanely and never knock anything over and never run into me. If the run was destructive in any way, I’d have trained her out of it by now. As it is, she knows she can’t actually get a walk until she comes and sits calmly in front of me so I can snap on the leash. So, she can show her excitement all she wants, as long as she cools it when I tell her to stop or I call her for the leash. And honestly? She’s beautiful when she runs, so I don’t mind watching her tear around and show me she’s extremely happy, as long as she’s willing to come under my control when I tell her it’s time.
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And Drill, if you are going to let fame do that to you, I will not be your editor. Not even if you promise to mention me by name in your many speeches and interviews.
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OK, so I talked to the person who helped me find and adopt Miss Razor Paws and she suggests that I make her food available to her ALL the time. If I can’t do that, she said, then be sure to give her wet food before bedtime so the little sweetie won’t be “too hungry” upon sunrise.
“So,” I responsed, “what you’re really telling me is that she’s trying to catch and kill me for food?”
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Drill, I sell out a lot easier than Cheryl D, you can hire me.
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Donna – Late night host Craig Ferguson – not a cat fan – often says, “If you die in your house, your cat will eat you!”
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Angel likes to be petted while she’s eating her crunchies, & she purrs up a storm as I do it. She’ll even “come get me” to pet her while she crunches & purrs away (which often has the result of sounding like a little piglet snorting).
My theory is that maybe she was taken away from her mama too soon, & likes the contact while eating, which reminds her of nursing on her mother, & the contact that came with it.
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Oh, thanks, Karen for that lovely image in #120.
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Drill – you’re too conservative for that crap. I just can’t imagine it.
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Donna – You’re welcome!
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Thanks for the link, Pauline.
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I have a friend who is interested in a simplified written history of the Protestant Reformation, kind of a how-the-Reformation-spread across Europe that isn’t too theological.
Does anyone know of such a book?
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Dream want ad: I’m seriously looking for a Norweigan Forest Cat (skogkatt) that doesn’t cost an arm and a leg, close to metro DC. I have no problem adopting another loveable reject from an animal shelter, but I’ll give it until next summer. Breeders aren’t in my budget and I wouldn’t know how to verify their reliabilty beyond how they advertise. Just file it away for Nana. One never knows how things come together. I’ll keep you posted. Thank you.
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#115: PC The Gingerbread Man? How do they get that one? Is he gay now? Or do they have a Gingerbread Woman?
Perhaps the fox bites off only a part of the hero(ine)? And (s)he’s saved by universal health care?
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Hmmm.
You know, Nana, my cat just may be a Norwegian Forest Cat now that I am studying her.
Oh, and forget what I said earlier about how she will attack you as you lie asleep in your bed before dawn. I exaggerate. It’s really not so bad. And I’ll even throw in a kitty nail file.
Deal?
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Well, NJL, we only feed our animals once a day.
But, before you get too worked up (grin), the cats can ask for food anytime, and if their bowls are empty, we’ll give it to them (which is why they are fat).
And, we tried feeding the dog twice a day, but she wouldn’t eat it.
So, we feed the dog around 11:00 PM. She eats part then and then she finishes the rest in the morning.
The cats get fed around 11:00 PM too. They get a nice big bowl of food.
As cats, though, they nibble at it all day. The only problem is that they eat a very expensive food to keep the male’s urinary tract on track, and — if the dog decides she wants a snack — she may slurp up left-overs (which may be why eating twice a day officially doesn’t interest her.)
I would put it all up high, but the older cat can’t jump up onto much of anything to eat her food. It really does have to be down on the floor for her. But, the male cat’s food does go on the table in the garage where the dog can’t get it.
However, despite all this, I notice that — when we’re very busy, or the kids forget and make the animals wait much past our normal bedtime — they will start begging, meowing, getting under our feet, and generally making a nuisance of themselves.
So, I will call out to find out which kid didn’t do his or her job (the kids rotate the job of feeding the animals each week), and usually someone will admit it, get up and feed the animals.
So, the animals do get used to a routine of exactly *when* you put down the really fresh food and clean their bowls and all that, we do it at night so that when they get antsy it is as we’re going to bed rather than in the morning trying to get us up.
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Oh, since we home school, the kids tend to go to bed late with us. So, I’m not really dragging them out of a sound sleep or anything when I ask who didn’t do their job.
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Donna, Donna, Donna – sounds like a deal almost too good to refuse
I actually had a faux NFC named Edgar who would jump off the top of my headboard on to my eyelids to get my attention for breakfast, so that’d be nothing new. I’d just hate to deprive you of your exuberant alarm clock! But the kitty nail file might very well clinch the deal. Let’s negotiate when you come back your kitty senses. Your acrobat cat would probably miss you. (Just between you & me, only cats & pro-life threads keep me up this late.)
And you’re how close to DC?

zzz…
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Misten is a happy dog tonight. She gets to go with me (sort of) to pick up my new car tomorrow. The one who’s driving me halfway is taking one of her own dogs for company, and Misten stayed at her house the last two times I went to see my brother (my sis-in-law was too sick to have a dog there the first of those times, and the other time was her funeral), so these two dogs know each other, and should have fun snuggling together on the trip. (We’ll also all be together on Thanksgiving, dogs and all–up to four dogs and four people, depending on whether one other guest with one dog comes.) Anyway, my friend told me she can take Misten along with us too, and drop her off at my house on the way back home.
Misten and my brother love each other, and in the visits this summer when his wife was failing, she’d sit at his feet and he’d stroke her and cry. So I don’t know how long my friend will want to wait around to transfer me to my brother’s car, but Misten may be able to love on him for at least a few minutes, and both of them will like that. (He called me tonight to talk and cry. He said he wants me to have the car, but it’s one more piece of her and that part is hard. He also told me the house feels very quiet and lonely. He had to put his dog to sleep last year, and I think he probably could use another pet now, not necessarily a dog–he had a beloved guinea pig a few years ago, so even a small animal like that might help keep him a little bit of company, or a dog.)
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Misten gets fed around 10:00 (sometimes as late as 11:00, but I try to get 10:00), so that I can sleep in. But she’s good about it, and the day after the accident I didn’t go to sleep till WAY late, and the next morning it was 11:15 (after four hours of sleep) before I realized someone needed her breakfast (but hadn’t even hinted about the desire). Now that she’s eating better, I’m back to feeding her a second meal, and surprisingly she almost seems more eager for that one than the breakfast–surprisingly because her tummy should be used to one meal a day.
I’m trying to feed her the evening meal at 5:00, but haven’t really settled into a routine yet, and it’s more likely to be 7:00 before I think of it. (I used to feed her at 10 p.m. and 10 p.m. and that worked well, but I saw somewhere that it’s better if the last meal is several hours before bedtime. I doubt it really matters, though.)
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Cheryl, Safe travels tomorrow, I’m sure it would be harder for your brother to see the car go to a stranger — this way it goes to someone your s-i-l knew and loved. A nice solution, I’d say. But my heart does go out to your brother, it’ll be a tough few months ahead especially most likely.
I’m sure the dogs will love their little road trip.
Apparently cats like to “free feed,” so that’s part of the issue (because the dogs will raid the cat food if it’s out and unattended). I’ll have to find a new strategy to see if I can leave her food out where she can get to it but they can’t. But you know border collies, they’re agile and resourceful ….
I feed my dogs morning and night and, as I’ve mentioned in the past, they literally wolf it down so dinner time is brief.
One of my former dogs, Pilgrim, an Australian shepherd, developed diabetes so that was a case where he HAD to be fed precisely at the same time every day, morning and night, 12 hours apart, with the insulin shots given at each meal. Very complicated in trying to work around fluctuations in my schedule (night meetings, for example, required much planning to ensure he’d get his dinner and medicine on time).
Things are obviously much more flexible with these dogs, which is good since I get home at such different hours every night, anytime between 7 and 10 p.m. depending on deadlines etc. ….
But now this cat ……..
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#126 – MMacMurray – Let me check with my son on that. He had to take a Reformation survey course in college. I’ll see if he has a recommendation.
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I just don’t get it… i have always love WM, but what’s with this blog? And there are sooo any of these things… Will someone clue me in? I’ll be right back.
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Thanks, KLasko!
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Any one? any one? Well, i am new here. But what is with this blog? Do people just right their thoughts? Oh, Whatever, I’ll just watch.
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Hi I’m Not Voting!
Yes, Whirled Views is an open thread where we can write about “whatever”. It can be light & fun, or sometimes serious.
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ohhhhh, i get it…
Thats why it doesn’t make any sense. Thanks Karen.
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Hey, Mickey, I forgot where (or if) i posted my question to you, so here it is again: Since you work for World Mag. do you know (or have you heard of) someone named Kevin Martin? He is the publisher of Gods’ World News (World for kids) last i checked, and more importantly, he’s my uncle. So, have you?
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