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Russia’s dangerous abortion rate
Russia’s underpopulation crisis has prompted the health minister to call for a reduction in Russia’s high abortion rate. Russia’s population has dangerously dwindled by 6.6 million since 1993 and its population is due to shrink by another 11 million before 2025. It already provides incentives for people to have children and last year experienced its first population increase since 1995, but it’s not enough. According to Health Minister Tatyana Golikova,
“The topic of reducing abortions is definitely on today’s agenda. This won’t solve the birthrate problem 100 percent, but around 20 to 30 percent.”
Russia has one of the world’s highest abortion rates, with 1.714 million births in 2008 and 1.234 million abortions.
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Russia has one of the world’s highest abortion rates, with 1.714 million births in 2008 and 1.234 million abortions.
That’s a rate of about 42%. The U.S. must be lower, but how much lower – anyone know?
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Let me get this straight; less abortion means more PEOPLE? This makes absolutely no sense what so ever. Haven’t we been told forever that what the mother is carrying is not a child, not a human, just a glob of cells? But now all of a sudden when we need these cells we realize that they are indeed people. The hypocracy sickens me!
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1997 statistics: Russion women on average kill 3 to 8 of their own children in their life time
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How could humanity be any worse in Noahs day, than it is now?
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This may be part of the legacy of Marx and Lenin. Quote (indirectly related):
“We are establishing communal kitchens and public eating-houses, laundries, and repairing shops, infant asylums, kindergartens, children’s homes, educational institutes of all kinds. In short, we are seriously carrying out the demand of our programme for the transference of the economic and educational functions of the separate household to society. ~ Vladimir Ilyich Lenin (1870 – 1924), leader of the Russian Revolution and the Russian Communist Party. 1920.
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More quotes, partly related to this issue on communism, from a book titled; “The Recovery of Family Life,” in 1953 by Elton & Pauline Trueblood:
* “It is important to remember that the breakup of the family is not incidental, but central to official communist ideology.” Elton & Pauline Trueblood, “The Recovery of Family Life.” Harper & Brothers, 1953 (p. 15).
* “Education which is ‘an instrument of propaganda for the communist regeneration of society’ is made easier if the family does not compete or interfere.” Elton & Pauline Trueblood, “The Recovery of Family Life.” Harper & Brothers, 1953 (p. 16).
* “The Communist Manifesto made the attack on family loyalty perfectly clear. The Manfesto spoke of ‘The bourgeois claptrap about family and education, about the hallowed co-relation parent and child.’ That the family as developed through Judeo-Christian influence would come to an end with the completed revolution was vigorously asserted… The main shift which the communist authors envisaged was from the family unit to larger social agencies.” Elton & Pauline Trueblood,,/b> “The Recovery of Family Life.” Harper & Brothers, 1953 (pp. 13-14).
* “Women must, therefore, be expected to work in factories, in offices and on farms, exactly as men do. They will earn in the same way and be willing to give up the antiquated notion that children are better trained in homes than they are in public institutions. Elton & Pauline Trueblood, “The Recovery of Family Life.” Harper & Brothers, 1953 (p. 14), on the communist call for a shift of the cultural center of gravity from the home to public institutions.
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what Fives55 said. How a society ever justified killing its children is beyond me.
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JM: Did I not hear of one person, or many persons, who told us that it takes a village to raise a child? Scary!
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fives55 & NJL: Christ is our Ark. PTL!
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I was hoping to find the picture of Michelle ala Scott Baio
http://twitpic.com/ytrbx
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#2: I can taste the hypocrisy. Well put.
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I think the Russians maybe in numerical decline.
But all hope is not lost.
They should encourage mass in-migration of muslims. Muslims are hard workers and they have big families. What could possibly go wrong?
Can’t see who would object to a booming muslim population since they often wind up doing all the “scut work” of society.
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I am not for abortion. I have never asked a woman to perform an abortion. Many of my ancestors were Russian Jews. If I had been aborted, I would not be here to post “hateful” comments.
On the other hand, the evangelical obsession with abortion strikes me as very peculiar and perhaps childish and unreflective.
Posting comments on worldmagblog probably does not stop a single abortion from happening in Russia, or in China, for that matter, nor does it save a single life of an adult or already born child in Russia, or in China, or in Darfur, or for that matter in Haiti.
A hateful comment by your resident nihilist, though no individual worldmagblog comment posters were harmed in the typing of this comment.
It is a good idea that all of you are reading and posting comments here. It keeps you off the streets and perhaps out of trouble.
Race you to the bottom.
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I think you beat us, Random.
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I’m curious how they plan to reduce the abortion rate.
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Money.
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NJL, you mean as in economic growth or individual payments?
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Money
They tried that in Norway and it didn’t work. When people only want one or no kids, financial incentives to have more seem to have only a limited effect.
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Buzzy, doesn’t that also depend on the tax burden and welfare? Where can I learn more about your reference to Norway?
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Nana – you may be right. My Norway information is anecdotal, it comes from a relative who lives there. I’d have to search the Web for statistics, but perhaps you also could do that.
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In our country, people have wanted fewer children as they climb the economic scale, but what is really needed is a campaign that teaches that children are worth something, family is worth something, and dare I say it, fathers are worth something.
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And as for importing Muslims, Russians can be pretty brutal. They don’t have a freedom of religion clause.
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#5 Sounds familiar
infant asylums = daycare & pre-school
kindergartens
educational institutes of all kinds = 1st – H.S. & College, etc.
If the gov’t makes both parents work by taking their money away thru taxes and regulations, then they are free to control what the children learn. But not if the children go to a private school or homeschool.
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Somebody just said that Random you beat us.
Not only have I never engaged in abortion, I have never beaten anybody.
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What this article fails to mention is the quality of life in Russia.
Where are the stats on food, health, war, poverty…reasons that could explain why things are this way.
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Random,
I don’t know why you think your comments are perceived as hateful. No one else in this stream called them that. I think your comments are at times acerbic, agnostic, nihilistic, ‘tongue in cheek’, off the wall, and such. But they are not hateful. I look forward to seeing your comments as I value their different perspectives.
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#26: I know: I’ve said so too. I think one person once told him he was hateful, and for whatever reason, that’s what he chooses to remember.
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abortion is not the right thing to do even if we are in a crisis you never the the kid you are having is destined to help us out of it never take the easy way out
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Buzzy, thank you – I also have many relatives there. Anecdotes often flesh out what’s between the lines of official narratives, so they are important, too. We’ll talk more later
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Nana – you have relatives that live in Norway? That’s really cool. I’d like to hear more some time.
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Currently in Russia, Mothers are paid to stay home with a new child for up to 3 years while drawing a government salary roughly equal to the salary they were receiving when the baby was born.
When a couple has a third child they receive an additional large (by Russian standards) one time “multi-mom” payment from the government. Admissions for the family to any state owned or sponsored event like museums is free. Travel on public transportation is free.
Of course as a socialist nation all medical is paid for by the state.
Their may be other benefits I am not aware of.
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OK Buzzy, happy to, Right now I’m off to errands.
Maj.Vic, thanks for the info. It sounds similar to others. What’s your take on the abortion situation?
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#26 and #27
I appreciate your comments. Having been a teacher of adolescents for ten years, I have a very thick skin, in any case. But I don’t want to discourage anyone’s freedom of speech, even if you are just an individual and not a corporation.
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Population article in today’s English language Russian newspaper:
http://www.sptimes.ru/index.php?action_id=2&story_id=30647
Nana – this is a world largely without belief in Christ or any thing else. With the fall of communism, the worship of the state was gone and it became everyone for them selves. Sin abounds and we have no real perspective on cultural differences in the west. Societal foundations are different leading to a different response to life. I have been here over 2 and a half years now and I work with the most hard pressed in this society, yet I still regularly face surprises. So I hesitate on too much of a personal perspective on the issue. With everyone doing what they feel they have to do to (sounds like Judges) there is no real condemnation of most sin, including abortion.
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