The temptation to dictatorship
“Love is patient.” We know the truth of this when examining ourselves personally. But does it apply to politics? We see how it does when prominent public figures go beyond expressing impatience with the democratic process to openly advocating the suspension of the Constitution so that President Obama can really get down to the business of hope and change unencumbered by the rule of law.
Woody Allen was recently quoted as saying, “It would be good . . . if he could be a dictator for a few years because he could do a lot of good things quickly.” Granted, we’re accustomed to Hollywood personalities making bizarre political statements, and so we don’t take them as speaking for the political left in general.
But when three-time Pulitzer Prize-winner and New York Times columnist Thomas Friedman says the same thing, and when NBC’s David Gregory and veteran journalist Andrea Mitchell agree with him, as they did recently on Meet the Press, it is time to oil up the Second Amendment to make sure it’s in good working condition. Only Paul Gigot interjects to point out that what everyone at the table is blithely considering is insane.
GREGORY: I want to follow up on one point, though, Tom Friedman, which is when you have such activism on the left and the right, what does that do to the political center and how do you govern in that respect? . . .
FRIEDMAN: Well, David, it’s been decimated. It’s been decimated by everything from the gerrymandering of political districts to cable television to an internet where I can create a digital lynch mob against you from the left or right if I don’t like where you’re going, to the fact that money and politics is so out of control—really our Congress is a forum for legalized bribery. You know, that’s really what, what it’s come down to. So I don’t—I, I—I’m worried about this, it’s why I have fantasized—don’t get me wrong—but that what if we could just be China for a day? I mean, just, just, just one day. You know, I mean, where we could actually, you know, authorize the right solutions, and I do think there is a sense of that, on, on everything from the economy to environment. I don’t want to be China for a second, OK; I want my democracy to work with the same authority, focus, and stick-to-itiveness. But right now we have a system that can only produce suboptimal solutions.
MITCHELL: And, in fact, Tom, you’re absolutely right. One case in point, the financial regulation bill, which we can get to . . .
GREGORY: Mm-hmm.
MITCHELL: . . . but Chris Dodd realized that Bob Bennett, with whom he wanted to work, the ranking member on the Banking Committee, was so swept away by his fight back home in Utah that he could not work across party lines, and that there is so much punishment for anyone who works across party lines to try to come up the best solutions so they end up with things that are not optimal.
GIGOT: We’d all be in jail if we were China for a second.
FRIEDMAN: No, I—it’s—I understand. I don’t want to be China. I want our system to work, though.
The spirit of political equality, of democratic mutual respect, entails patience with one another and with the process we have all agreed to share. Recognizing love as the crowning virtue and thus as the fulfillment of divine righteousness and human calling points us politically toward a republic of laws and toward respect for due process of law when political passion moves us to impatience with what we judge to be our less clear-sighted neighbors. The patience of love bears with fellow citizens through the costly burden of debate and moral influence with a view to persuading them to the position we are sure is correct. The process is often slow and incomplete, and must end in compromise of some sort. For this reason, love—which for a Christian and for a Christian society is at the heart of democratic self-government—“is not arrogant or rude; it does not insist on its own way” (1 Corinthians 13:4-5).

















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Some times half a loaf is all you can get. If you want to go East and I want to go north then we agree to drive the car in the NE. But we today have rancorous partisans who pursue opposing directions.
I read that in the early 60s when it looked as if he’d face JFK, Barry Goldwater had planned for the two of them to travel across the country together IN THE SAME AIRCRAFT. They would fly in, conduct a debate for an assembled group and then fly on to the next campaign site.
Could we have a genial collegial politics today? ‘Fraid not.
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Wow. They’re actually saying it out loud now.
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Amen, D.C.
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Oh, riiight.
Because they’re obviously deadly serious that they want Obama to be a dictator. They’ve finally exposed themselves – Gotcha!
Just like this other guy:
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Hey they are just being part of the Dem Party that is it.
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One thinks of how the biggest enthusiasts for Nazism were often college-educated and highly literate (Josef Goebbels, PhD)
These folks remind me of the “political pilgrims” catalogued by Paul Hollander. The entourages of “useful idiots” who claimed to have “seen the future, and it works”.
China may produce cargo freighters loaded with freight connexes stacked a mile high on ea ship deck, China may be an invaluable partner in our financial demise or rescue, but millions of innocent unborn girls forever taint that horrid regime.
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These people think they’re right and ought not to have to consider any other point of view on what is “optimal.” Are they not just following their relative morals: to “do what’s best for me”? (Which, for them, is to rise to power over the rest of us “idiots.”) It’d be scary if I didn’t know that whatever they do in this life, they’ll face their Maker in the next, bearing the added weight of their responsibility for the lives of those they rule. (Luke 11:46)
Will the day come soon when even the tiny objection of a Paul Gigot is no longer heard at all in our nation? I pray not, as my son and my friends are overseas fighting for “freedom!”
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Any conversation about public policy must begin with some shared premise to begin with. A conservative may believe that respecting our Constitution is paramount. A liberal may believe that the Constitution is a ‘living document’, which needs to change to meet the needs of a changing society.
That’s the first thing that needs to be settled.
But what we have today are liberals who don’t want a Constitution at all – and act as though it has already been abolished! This is what has not been explicitly stated and is their best kept secret.
As long as moderate republicans come to the table thinking they’re dealing with an opponent who has any respect for the Constitution, they will be deceived and manipulated into accepting the liberal’s next phase in a scheme to overthrow the Constitution.
This is not compromise, it’s deception. The liberal has concealed his true position so that the moderate republican believes his opponent is like-minded in his respect for the Constitution.
So, D.C., the very premise that both parties have agreed to share in a process is false – the liberal says he has, but he’s got his fingers crossed behind his back.
Senator McCain is the perfect example of thinking that he’s being magnanimous, when in fact he’s being manipulated.
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This really is where our beloved country is heading……the Progressives say that they know how to best run a country and how to get us out of the economic morass we are currently in and how to protect the environment, etc. etc. etc. The fact is they are after the thing that has eluded liberals for centuries – absolute power. My sign in name is a reflection of where our country is going. I don’t expect people younger than 30 to be able to actually read the whole book (anymore than I expect a Progressive to actually read the 18 pages of the AZ law they are fighting so hard against) but this book is too scarily like a prophecy of where our once great country is right now.
We have a president who instead of leading is an activist pushing for a hard left agenda and trying everything he can to grow government to an unsustainable level so that he can fundamentally truly change the face of this nation. You have Progressives in both parties pushing agendas and bills that they haven’t even read which are written by outside policy houses that are simply after an agenda that will bring the most amount of money into their coffers.
And we have an electorate that has to listen to morons like Andrea Mitchell, etc and have to try and search through the drivel that they promote.
We will get better as a country when we wake up and vote every incumbent out of office and start over with new people that are not so entrenched in filling their pockets with money while bankrupting small business and the middle income bracket.
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Whom is DCINNES expecting to shoot, when he’s oiled up his gun? His post reads more like a threat than a call for love and patience.
I do agree that citizens in a democracy have an ethical obligation to try to persuade their fellow citizens and in turn allow themselves to be persuaded. Oiling a gun seems to speak more to force than persuasion, however, and I sort of agree with Aristotle that force is not persuasion.
See, I’m offering y’all an argument from authority, custom made to persuade conservatives.
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The beginnings of the imperial presidency have been around since Andrew Jackson. It’s documented in Andrew Jackson, American Lion
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Vastly amused — a few people whine about the slowness of the American system and suddenly the left wants a dictatorship. Friedman by the way is no leftist. Is it August yet?
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Scroop Moth: By “authority” do you mean your sort of agreement with Aristotle?
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This post and video clip sure makes me relieved and profoundly glad that Utah got rid of Bob Bennett.
This was done right, because we got rid of the RINO without installing another Al Franken (any Democrat) for 6 years. Bennett paid for his compromises against conservative constitutionalism and we can still challenge the current total one-party-rule!
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What Friedman is saying is that he wishes we did not have our pesky hurtful infernal chain-around-all-our-necks Constitution for a day (that’s how Freidman sees it, that is).
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We have a Constitution for the very exact reason of stopping people like Freidman, Obama, Biden, and other elitist academic supremicists from being able to do to America whatever they want for a day. Give them one day and we all would have to live for years with their top down “solutions.”
Better to use gov’t to keep us free and protected from outright criminality so we can find our own solutions.
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Neither party has figured out that The People are bent out of shape (insert the worst phrase you can there). If the job situation doesn’t improve soon, there is going to be one strange November. There really are people in this country (and they are liberals) who can’t even discuss the Constitution, and if you mention the Constitution in a discussion, they literally tell you that it has to be suspended, set aside, so they can have what they want. It means nothing to them
Kinda sorta like The Word for Pelosi — just let it say what you want.
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This is one of the most disingenuous pieces of journalism that I’ve ever seen. None of these folks (on MTP) is suggesting that Obama or progressives should be able to rule with dictatorial authority. Rather, they are referring to the breakdown of the political center, and are suggesting that ANY dictator may be better than the mindless hyper-partisan bickering that currently plagues the political process.
Ironically, Innes calls us to “democratic mutual respect” while authoring a drive-by attack piece whose apparent intention is to obscure the truth and create false impressions about others. In that sense, Innes illustrates what is wrong with our current political discourse.
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Friedman said (we all heard him too), “You know, I mean, where we could actually, you know, authorize the right solutions, and I do think there is a sense of that, on, on everything from the economy to environment.”
Humility just does not occur to these people, dies it?
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RSD, you are right because Evil cannot be fought with “democratic mutual respect”. For example, Leftists propensity for deception (or self-deception) illustrates how the Satan paves the coming of the Anti-Christ using Communist ideologies. How’s that for NOT BEING disingenuous?
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I have always wanted the left to say what they mean. HRW is pretty good about this sort of thing. I wish American socialists would learn to say what they mean.
Communism is a fast walk to totalitarianism. Socialism is a slow walk to the same place. Let’s just call it what it is!
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Communism is a fast walk to totalitarianism. Socialism is a slow walk to the same place.
Social Democracy is not as it listens to the people and provides them with what they want.
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#22 Yawn!
What is Social Democracy but an even slower walk toward totalitarianism. Walk as slow as you want, but it all leads to the same place. What I want is liberty.
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If focusing on love confuses us perhaps our focus could be holiness. We may then be less tempted to compromise to any view that veers from what is good. Both parties have proven man does what is right in his own eyes. Holiness with love will bring us to a good world view.
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Anyone on the right want to comment on the glaring similarity between what was said and the Bush quote in #4? Why one has you up in arms and the other doesn’t.
FWIW, I was not outraged by Bush’s quote. I got what he meant.
Who hasn’t been in a work situation and thought – if only I were boss for a day making all the rules, things’d get done right!
Who hasn’t ever imagined that things would be much easier if those opposed to us would just get out of the way?
Do you honestly think these statements are different? Do you not recognize hyperbole?
It’s rare indeed to see so much twisting and spinning!
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I see nothing disengenuous about this report. Nothing. They said what they said and Paul Gigot understood them.
Further, those in the conversation in the clip like Friedman and the sheep who follow him are also not being disingenuous. They are dangerously wrong, but they are being open about it in plain terms (being China for a day is scary but at least it’s not nuance).
And Paul Gigot saw it for just what it was–an autocratic suggestion that, in a nation of laws, is repulsive and against our laws.
After all, “China”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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royclay (25): Anyone on the right want to comment on the glaring similarity between what was said and the Bush quote in #4? Why one has you up in arms and the other doesn’t.
Frank: Bush’s “just so long as I’m the dictator” crack was just that — a crack, a joke.
But where were all my fellow conservatives when the Bush administration (specifically David Addington, John Yoo and Dick Cheney) was pushing the whole “unitary executive” theory?
Now that was a step toward dictatorship.
No sweat though, I guess, since Bush was “one of us.”
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The quote by President Bush at #4 was in the context of Bush making to opposite argument of Friedman. Friedman actually would like the gov’t to have that power for a day (as I understood him) and President Bush was using hyperbole and had no actual desire to take on that role.
Bush’s point: Making things easier is not a sufficient moral argment for doing what is dead wrong.
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What made Bush’s job performance or approval rating so low was that both leftists and conservatives were disapproving. He deserved the criticism of many conservatives (like me) in the fiscal arena especially. But let’s be fair about cherry-picked quotations. Frank is right about the line at #4 being a wise crack. Frank, I take note of your honest reply.
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Roy Clay: If Friedman had said, “If this were a dictatorship, it’d be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I’m the dictator,” it would be as obvious that he was joking as it was when Mr. Bush said it. I think I recall Mr. Obama saying something in the same vein recently, and, of course, you didn’t see that commented on at World.
Friedman did come across as using hyperbole and humor in his statement. But what he does (and it’s a writing technique I actually really like) is state things with a bit of humor and hyperbole and then throw in a stirring statement. “I don’t want to be China for a second, OK? I want my democracy to work with the same authority, focus, and stick-to-itiveness…” Focus and stick-to-itiveness are inspiring words. Do you think he does not want his government to work with focus? Is, “I want my government to work with focus” an hyperbolic joke, sure to draw laughter? Is, “I want my government to work with stick-to-itiveness” a statement worthy of a knee slap? No, it’s inspiring, stirring.
The problem is, he also wants his government “to work with the same authority…” The same authority as what? The same authority that it works with now? No, because he’s lamenting the fact that it can’t get things done. No, he wants his democracy to work with the same authority as China. He doesn’t want to be China for a second – he just wants his “democracy” to work with the “same authority.”
It’s possible he got caught in a word snafu while waxing eloquent. How deeply he meant his statement and where he would draw lines is up for interpretation, because no one pinned him under the microscope to find out.
Moving on: “…where we could actually, you know, authorize the right solutions, and I do think there is a sense of that, on, on everything from the economy to environment…”
What I got from this statement is that it would be great if “we” could authorize the right solutions, and he thinks there’s a sense on what the right solutions would be. Because, really, doesn’t everyone agree that the Tea Party is a bunch of nuts? Doesn’t everyone really believe that abortion and redefining marriage and taking one’s man’s “wealth” and giving it to another man is the “right” solution?
The reason for alarm in this situation is that words soften. I can always tell when the Obama administration is getting ready to tighten the noose around the America citizenry by the sound bytes that begin coming. Oh surely, I thought, they didn’t mean they want to control who says what how many times on the internet? Until I kept hearing it over and over and over again, with the statements becoming more and more bold. Testing the water on Sunday talk shows. Mentioning things generally in one news conference or another.
This is the first time I’ve heard anyone broach the subject of dictatorship. When I hear something like this, I keep my ears open, I give Mr. Friedman the benefit of the doubt. If I start hearing it more often, I watch. I really don’t think being leery of this statement deserves your sarcastic disdain. Perhaps we’re not as bigoted or stupid as you suggest but simply more careful. We all have our different gifts.
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The 2nd Ammendment statement went to the oringinal intent of the 2nd Ammendment, which was to leave room for the people to check an out of control government, as stated in the Declaration of Independence:
We hold these truths to be self-evident… That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.
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As to expansion of federal power under Bush:
We weren’t all that watchful. The reasons for those expansions were generally within the scope of the proper function of government (the Patriot Act was for National Security – which is the proper role of the government). However, those reason do not stick as well as the power itself does – look at DHS now. It’s scary – singling out people with Pro-Life bumper stickers as terrorist threats to be profiled by the police? That was our failure, as conservatives, with Bush in charge. We did not see how those measures could become true invasions of liberty without major attention.
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#22 – listens to which people? It is a stepping stone to full-out socialism – and as Xion says, just a slower walk to the same place.
Who was it – Benjamin Franklin? Thomas Jefferson? – who said that our form of government would only last until enough people found they could continually vote themselves more of other people’s stuff? That’s Social Democracy right there – enough people voting themselves more of other people’s stuff in larger and larger amounts. To do that, you need a very strong (and large) centralized government.
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Mr. Innes,
Thomas Friedman has always been a huge fan of China. His statements here should just be seen as another of his numerous attempts to kiss the government of the PRC on the rump.
I, too, regret the increases in Presidential power which have seemed fairly consistent since the Church Commission curtailed them. My current tactic is to message Obama and ask him to reduce Presidential power in one way, any way, just one tiny way, at all. He has not. Neither did Bush, Clinton, GHW Bush or Reagan. Go Ford!
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Here is a great article on the meaning and history of Fascism, which is the political and economic direction Obama is taking America.
The word fascism is so politically charged and hated, that one can hardly have a civil discussion once it is mentioned. However, that does not change the fact that this is precisely the form of government American progressives advocate.
America with its constitution will not become like Nazi Germany. However, many of the same goals and aspirations can be achieved by other means.
Here are the essential ingredients of fascism. It is a form of social organization …
1. In which the government acknowledges no restraint upon its powers
Checks and balances in American government actively prevent totalitarianism, so progressives seek to achieve it by other means, such as centralization of power, nationalization of industry, control of the media through payoffs, weakening the Bill of Rights, increasing the power of the courts, placing empathy over the rule of law, etc..
2. In which this unrestrained government is managed by a dictator
America cannot have a dictator, so instead progressives actively work toward a one party system through the purchasing of votes of the underclass with government handouts and no taxation, the strengthening of unions, control of representation by taking over the Census, controlling the media and soon the legalization of illegal aliens, etc.
3. In which the government is organized to operate the capitalist system and enable it to function — under an immense bureaucracy.
The government controls the economy. Mussolini’s government operated on deficit spending and ever-rising national debt in order to control and “stimulate” the economy.
4. In which the economic society is organized on the syndicalist [i.e. trade union] model, that is by producing groups formed into craft and professional categories under supervision of the state
Much of Obama’s stimulus money was spent as payoffs to unions and campaign contributors. When GM was nationalized the unions were handed 1/3 of the company.
5. In which the government and the syndicalist [union] organizations operate the capitalist society on the planned, autarchical [unlimited rule] principle.
Under Obama unions get special privileges, such as exemption from health care taxes. Job stimulus is essentially union stimulus.
6. In which the government holds itself responsible to provide the nation with adequate purchasing power by public spending and borrowing
7. In which militarism is used as a conscious mechanism of government spending
Obama wants to weaken the actual military (80% of cuts in his next budget will come from the military). Instead he seeks to control dissent and other unAmerican activity by tracking cell phones and reading private emails. He tried to start a White House snitch line to turn in neighbors who disagreed with him. He vowed to create an army of Acorn-like volunteers to help him get reelected and prolong his power.
8. In which imperialism is included as a policy inevitably flowing from militarism as well as other elements of fascism.
The new imperialism will be the global “green” economy in the form of a One World governing body as the Copenhagen Treaty outlines.
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