The Tea Party: More than steam
The Tea Party movement is “not that important,” according to Thomas Friedman today in The New York Times (”The Tea Kettle Movement“). It will affect the elections, he says, but not the future.
Friedman claims that there are presently two Tea Party movements. What we now call the Tea Party movement he calls the Tea Kettle movement—just a vehicle for letting off steam. It’s “all steam and no engine.” It complains about deficits and big government, but has no plan for making actual cuts.
First, the name: Don’t expect that “tea kettle” nomenclature to catch on.
Second, the agenda: There is one, and it’s obvious to everyone in the movement. Stop spending! Stop the Obama addiction to zeros. Friedman is too casual with history when he says the Tea Party reserves its ire for government spending and intrusion only under Barack Obama’s administration. Andrea Tantaros of the New York Daily News reminds us:
“[Karl] Rove, George W. Bush and many incumbents, including President Obama, are the reason we even have the Tea Party movement. Bush ran up deficits. Obama quadrupled them. To many disgruntled conservatives, Rove was behind Bush in giving us open borders, tax cuts that expire, Medicare Part D and busted budgets.”
But Obama broke the dam. The difference is what someone called “the trouble with trillions.” The Obama regime has gone where no government has gone before, and at warp speed. Putting the brakes on this in November would be no small accomplishment.
Beyond that, generating a legislative plan is not the function of a popular protest at the grassroots level. Its purpose is to express the public alarm, indicate broadly what the public sees as the problem (government spending, federal intrusion into the private sphere, and departure from constitutional boundaries), provoke concrete solutions from existing and emerging leaders, and vote out of office anyone who is clearly adding to the problem instead of coming up with a solution.
And indeed solutions are out there. The Republican “Pledge to America” is a start. It’s a summary of measures that have broad enough support to serve as a rallying point for the midterm elections. Rep. Paul Ryan, R-Wis., has given us a “Roadmap” for refueling the country’s prosperity and competitive edge. Without Tea Party sirens howling across the nation, would we have either of these plans on the table?
But in contrast to this political non-entity of a movement, Friedman calls our attention to “the important Tea Party movement.” The agenda he associates with this group seems reasonable in some ways—immigration and Social Security reform, cutting payroll taxes and corporate taxes—but it’s not the pent-up demand of a silent popular movement. It’s just Tom Friedman.
As for electoral politics, Friedman tells us this huge, inarticulate, and thus far undiscovered political volcano . . .
“. . . stretches from centrist Republicans to independents right through to centrist Democrats . . . and is looking for a leader with three characteristics. First, a patriot: a leader who is more interested in fighting for his country than his party. Second, a leader who persuades Americans that he or she actually has a plan not just to cut taxes or pump stimulus, but to do something much larger—to make America successful, thriving and respected again. And third, someone with the ability to lead in the face of uncertainty and not simply whine about how tough things are—a leader who believes his job is not to read the polls but to change the polls.”
But he is not describing two different movements at this point. They’re two different issues. The Tea Party movement is concerned with the crisis of looming national bankruptcy brought on by drunken irresponsibility and ideological obsession in Washington. The sort of character the justifiably angry American public is looking for in the person who would lead us out of this mess is a separate question. The three characteristics Friedman describes are completely uncontroversial. He basically describes what a political leader ought to be. He describes a statesman.
So the two issues converge on this question. Is the Tea Party Movement bringing statesman into public life to address this national crisis? For the next two years, starting in November, the answer will unfold.

















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Stop spending! isn’t an agenda. Cutting Social Security benefits, privatizing it, voucherizing Medicare, and abolishing the Department of Education would be an ageda.
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Obama didn’t quadruple the deficit. His contribution to the deficit consists of the $800 B stim (incl. substantial tax cuts), bailouts (which will be repaid), and Afghanistan (which is George’s mess arising from his terrible conduct of the war). Reasonable, modest, and responsible, under the circumstances.
Just about all of the deficit since Clinton balanced the budget is due to Bush’s tax cuts, Iraq, and the Great Recession.
Tea party’s knickers are twisty.
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“Obama didn’t quadruple the deficit.”
Did so.
Ahem…
Let’s be careful about which (and whose) misrepresentations we bandy about.
From a WSJ article by Steve Moore:
The truth of the matter is this:
These are my comments I tried to post on the nytimes article. I wanted to get it out there and it appears nytimes is slow to post / refusing to post. In these comments I am referring to Mr. Friedman and his points…
I believe that the steam that you speak of is not the steam from a lost boy in the park seeking a fearless leader to craft “smart, subtle, and focused” plan to get out of this mess. It comes from an awakening of a deeper, more thoroughly intellectual understanding of what it means to be America, what’s different about our story on this planet. It’s boiling up through the cracks in the pretty pictures that a host of flavors of the progressive mindset have rejoiced in painting for a hundred years. These are the same pictures that have been painted by dictators throughout human history, whether these dictators were ‘divine’, ‘royal’, ‘collective’, or any other title they think up for themselves. The pictures all amount to the same idea– The world is dangerous and We, the ones that have power for whatever reason, must chart a course for everyone to make sure everything gets better.
Except, who are these leaders? We are all just people. No different – Politicians and corporate types alike. What makes things better? What does “better” even mean? It means something different to every single person. Everybody agrees food is good, but when you’ve taken on the role of supreme leader, with the power to play favorites, change the rules, help some with the efforts taken from others, do you really have the arrogance to believe that you know how to make things better? You know what’s in the hearts and minds of millions of people. You know what they believe is right and good? You want to stand there at the strings to the tangled mess that is cause and effect, managing millions of people across thousands of miles, playing like a child with a system so complex that only a fool would call themselves expert enough to know what is good and what is bad? Changing the rules changes human behavior. You can never predict the real outcome of your plans and your schemes.
If anything, the American innovation: real personal freedom, has proven that freedom is the most productive force mankind can ever hope for. It produces more innovation and living standard than is possible under any other system. You can argue otherwise, but you’d be wrong. The need to survive motivates us all, and the desire to live how we each believe we should live motivates us even further. Central planning destroys that. Currently at about a rate of what, 40%?
America is a symbol of freedom, justice and democracy. The steam erupting from your kettle is from millions of Americans that are waking up to the fact that freedom and justice have been ignored for too long. We have spread “democracy” throughout the world, but somehow it feels like freedom and justice get left behind. It’s a logical fact that democracy without freedom and justice is just mob rule. In the information age as in any other age, anybody can tell a story however they want. Real value is defined by what somebody is willing to work their ass off for. Real value is represented by a true free market. In order to create a more free market, we must promote justice, not euphemistic ‘social justice’, but real justice. When the rules are the rules, and value is real, peace a prosperity bloom. We got a taste with the American Constitution. It’s been eroding for decades, but we are still pretty damn free – at least 60% or so? The argument for us is not- what does everybody need to do to fix this. The argument is that collectivism is the cause of all this. We know you can’t dismantle all services immediately. That’s still not an argument for going further down the arrogant rabbit hole. We are trying to argue fundamental direction, and you are trying to erect gods to fix everything.
Gods are a waste of effort. And they slow everybody down.
You describe a few things in attempting explain the problem and to spell out your plan for success. You seem to ignore the main point of things. For example: ‘politics has become just another form of sports entertainment, our Congress a forum for legalized bribery and our main lawmaking institutions divided by toxic partisanship to the point of paralysis’ is your explanation for our decline, but doesn’t it ignore the cause of all that? Sure our decline could be because of bribery and partisanship, but what’s the cause of that? The cause is exactly what the constitution was trying to avoid. It’s caused by a concentration of enormous power in the hands of a few. This is where all of the sports entertainment, bribery, and bickering comes in. You also say: Our ‘core-competency’ must be nurtured. But again, what was the cause of that ‘core-competency’. It’s not some magical gift from god. We are talented and creative BECAUSE WE ARE FREE.
It’s too much effort to argue further tonight. You are just so wrong that’s it’s hard to encapsulate it without losing sleep. Just believe me, you are wrong.
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Bush got TARP enacted. TARP conveyed way too much power to Hank Paulsen the Treasury Sec/former Goldman Sachs CEO.
Bush bailouts and TARP convinced many once loyal GOP types that the party no longer stood up for avg working taxpayers. I think Dick Armey made that clear in his book.
Of course prior to that Bush had greenlighted NCLB and the expansion of Medicare.
So yes, BHO has truly taken the ball and ran with it but lets not forget he took it from a non-conservative GOP President.
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Sawgunner, I get your valid point. But isn’t that a little like stealing the key to a bank safe from a robber and blaming the robber for the money you got away with. Eh?
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Yes Louise.
The problem is, very few of our “representatives” are fiscally responsible any more, Democrate OR Republican.
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Louise and make it man
When I watched Bush and Paulsen concoct TARP and then Pelosi et al ram it through the congress I sorta felt like the end of Animal Farm where you look real hard but you cannot tell the difference between the humans and the pigs.
It was then I realized we have a mono-party govt. The elites of both parties have way more in common than they have different about them.
In a different time and context from when George C. Wallace first said it I gotta agree: “There’s not a dime’s worth of difference..” in the two major parties.
And its hard to believe in a nation where you have multiple choice in so many matters we still have parties left over from the 19th century.
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I bet most people in the Tea Party would whole-heartedly agree with you Sawgunner.
I know I do.
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I agree, Sawgunner, MIM and Louise…except for this, there ARE those in the Tea Party that are different. Sarah Palin is a shining example of that! She has called her targets in the primary, and picked many of them off. This is not something that is new to her, as she did the same thing in Alaska. This is her trademark. She knows instively that we must clean up our own houses before we can lead. I thank God for rasing her up in this time to start the clean up of the Leftists in the Republican party.
It all boils down to a lot of what Smarch says above: Freedom. But I would go one step further and name the real culprit that is taking away our freedoms, it is the Liberal Left in both parties. They have a stranglehold on the Dems, and they have made inroads in the Reps.
I like a lot of what Smarch says, except that he seems to want to deny God. I hope that he was just taking shots at the plural, small captital “g” “gods”. But I’m not really getting that. So, since this IS a CHRISTIAN news blog, I will say what needs to be said again and again, our freedom is in Christ. The concept of a free nation, as we have enjoyed it, is a natural manafestation of that freedom.
Which brings me back to Sarah. The number one reason that the Left hate her so much is that she is, in this order, a CHRISTIAN, WHITE, FEMALE, CONSERVATIVE. How dare there be a female with such political power that is not something along the lines of “CHRIST DENYING, OTHER THAN WHITE, FEMALE AND LIBERAL”?!?! She’s a threat, because she represents what they fear, the reality that most women, of all races, identify with her and not them.
We need more Sarah’s that are willing to weed out the Liberals in the Republican and the Democrat parties. (At least, the radical Liberals in the Democrat party. I know that they have fallen far from their noble heritage)
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Minority Leader Boehner wept on the floor of the House, pleading with his Republican colleagues to pass TARP for the good of the country. TARP bubled out of his own Republican soul, unrammed.
I say this with sadness, for I wish that Nancy had been there, ramming it into him, as Sawgunner imagines it above. D stands for demonic dominator.
Thanks to repayments to TARP, the original estimated cost of $356B, has been cut down to $89B, which makes TARP 42% cheaper (so far) than Ronald Reagan’s S&L rescue. TARP may turn a small profit. TARP could have made a fortune for Uncle Sam, if Bush’s treasury people had acted like capitalist tycoons instead of well-meaning bureaucrats.
George Bush spoke the truth when he told the nation that our financial system was on the verge of crashing. Banks had stopped lending to the most credit-worthy customers, and payments were about to stop. It was a historic moment.
Nancy wasnt a protagonist.
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The debt shock is mainly an effect of the bizarrerie that debt is increasing during the administration of a Democrat. Heretofore, gross federal debt has always declined as a percentage of GDP with a Democrat in the White House, while each Republican from Reagan on has increased it substantially.
On closer inspection, however, we see that the present increase is almost entirely an after-effect of Bush.
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Cheney says deficits don’t matter, and so does the Tea Party, when you really look at their proposals for tax cuts for those who are obtaining all the growth in income.
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SMARCH, where’s your “deeper, intellectual understanding” of Social Security, for example. The Tea Party worries about the capacity of the inter-generational transfer system. (SS will never go insolvent, of course, but it might operate at 80% of strength, without minor adjustments). Very nerdy, perhaps, but so superficial. SS is just a payment system, not the economics. The economic reality is that tens of millions of baby boomers won’t be generating goods and services, but instead consuming Metamucil, AARP bus tours, hip replacements, and Depens. How can your “deeper, intellectual understanding” obviate that revolting development?
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Interesting article on the Tea Party in Rolling Stone
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/17390/210904
Warning: Language
The author makes an interesting distinction between the Tea Party originating from Ron Paul’s libertarian challenge and the the later Tea Party activity funded by FreedomWorks and Koch’s America for Prosperity. The latter half of the article focuses on Rand Paul’s senatorial bid.
As for the Pledge to America, its very short on details. And as McConnell admitted they are just promising more of the same — they will change nothing from the 8 years of Bush. They obviously have no desire to change.
BD
The Republicans and the Democrats differ very little. They are both right of center (see political compass). The Tea Party rank and file represent a right wing populist movement similar to many right wing populist movements in the past with its focus on social issues, a nostalgia for a past golden age, anti-immigration, and mostly rural. And typical for many right wing populist groups, its been bankrolled by corporate groups.
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HRW-15
WRONG. I’m not even going to bother with the details. Sorry.
Scroop, over and over and over again you have been told that congress (congress!!!) was in Democrat hands when those things happened. HOWEVER, I WILL NOT DEFEND Bush’s fiscal irresponsibility in regards to his failure to veto the Democrat congress. But you’ve been told that so many times that it’s getting childish to have to keep telling you.
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I mean, come on, HRW, ROLLING STONE? REALLY? REALLY?
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Good article MIM 3
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It’s the GOP’s fault Obama failed in passing his agenda?
It’s the Tea Party’s fault he can’t get Dems and RINOs elected?
It’s Dem voters fault because they won’t get out and vote? (I wonder why? Maybe it was Obama who would be a repeat performance of Bush. Bush gave us wars and spending and Obama raised the stakes on both.)
All overdrafts are Bush’s fault? Did Bush sign blank checks before he left office?
(Pelosi/Reid were in control for 2 years BEFORE Obama – we should call that B.O. [Before Obama])
Obama blames Dem voters, yet everyone said he won because the Independent voters voted for Obama. Maybe he should yell at the Independent voter. It’s their fault.
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SCROOP
OBAMA gave more money than THAT to Muslims, here and elsewhere. And has pledged much much more to Muslim armies and rebuilding.
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I don’t know that the Tea Party needs a plan. They are citizens who elect representatives to come up with a plan.
The Tea Party isn’t just about deficits. It’s about the nature of our country, a desire to return to democracy as it was envisioned at the formation of the country, a desire to regain our freedoms, a desire to turn away from too much government control.
The People already have a plan. It’s called the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution.
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So, BrotherDan, you think the other side prefers a “wise Latina?”
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“The debt shock is mainly an effect of the bizarrerie that debt is increasing during the administration of a Democrat.”
Oh man. I don’t know how you come up with this, when all Obama and his winningest congress EVAR, have done is increase the public sector at the expense of the private sector?
“On closer inspection, however, we see that the present increase is almost entirely an after-effect of Bush.”
Hmmm… And you can prove that, how?
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Congress was not controlled by Democrats when it authorized Iraq, cut taxes (mainly!) for the rich, gave away the store to Big Pharma, and let the “financial products” geniuses bring down our entire financial system and very nearly cause the second great depression.
Other than that, bro. Dan makes the fair point that Democrats ran the House when the Republican Leader bawled like a baby in pleading for Republicans to approve TARP.
You opponents of TARP, please don’t say you preferred another depression – your gods are already crazy enough.
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Re the tired and tiring complaints about Pres. Bush’s lack of vetoes. His record is easy enough to look up on Wikipedia. I haven’t seen it in quite a while, but he didn’t waste time on those that could be over-ridden. There was a lot going on then. It’s bad enough the snarky, bitter Democrats want to be his victim. I won’t be party to that sad-sack whine.
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#20:
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Well Bush may have been responsible for the War, and perhaps the financial geniuses may have something to do with the economic collapse, but I don’t think that accounts for the projected increase to $8 Trillion…..
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OBL and people like him was responsible for the war.
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This thread illustrates the dynamic I was talking about on the Truth in Campaign Advertising thread:
PREMISE: Our nation is in serious debt and facing deficits.
A COUPLE OF PEOPLE: The Democrats are in power now and the Republicans were in power before, and both have contributed to the problem.
EVERYBODY ELSE: It’s your guy’s fault!
No! It’s your guy’s fault!
No way! Look at the these figures proving it’s your guy’s fault!
Nuh uh! Here’s a report showing why those figures are inaccurate!
(Repeat on infinite loop, with variations)
……..
Seriously … is this productive?
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Louise-25
I’m not sure if that was directed at me, but I absolutely fault Bush for not using his veto power enough. I don’t care if it was over-riden, he needed to show his willingness to fight the spending, etc. I’m sorry, I really did appreciate Bush in so many ways. This is one of probably two things that I didn’t appreciate. The other was his inability to articulate the war effort in a more forceful manner. I’m not alone in these criticisms, as others have made them same from the Right.
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Conan,
Just for the record, I believe Scroop was the first to start the blame game…
Most everyone else has actually said there is plenty of blame for both “parties”…
Which is why, you see a third party rising up. It would prefer to elect statemen, and care less about politicians.
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Conan-29
I understand your sentament. However, will you not acknowledge that many on the Right here HAVE placed blame on the Republicans also?
I think the destinction is that WHAT we blame the separate parties for doing wrong differs. We blame them for being too liberal. You(?)blame them for being too conservative.
What do you think?
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Yeah Thorn, I too am wondering if the Tea Party just might evolve into an actual political party. I know that the chances are very slim, but I also know that there was a recent poll that shows 70 percent or so of the Republicans identify with the Tea Party movement.
Now, if that were to happen, and if they were to rise to power while supplanting the RHINO’s, these would be exciting times indeed! History in the making.
Not likely, but not impossible.
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“Thanks to repayments to TARP”
“You opponents of TARP, please don’t say you preferred another depression – your gods are already crazy enough.”
So Congress, full of politicians, bails out the worst offenders who helped cause the collapse, so that the worst offenders can pay them. Meanwhile, the average taxpayer, gets screwd.
Because if you havent noticed, nothing has changed for the majority of those in the US. It’s still a crummy economy, except for those lining each others wallet.
So no, TARP was a piece of crap. I’d have taken a depression anyday over what they did.
To restore the economy, quit supporting failures, quit extorting success.
The government would have been better off giving every American 30,000 dollars a family.
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We know what the private sector does when a speculative bubble bursts and the financial system collapses. We’ve seen. It liquidates. It liquidates stocks and bonds, liquidates factories, farms, real estate and labor.
Depression effectively many if not most of those who cause it. The problem is, it also punishes good, hardworking, credit-worthy, decent people. People like your grandparents and great-grandparents, and mine.
Depression injures the economic future of an entire generation of young people, compared to those who start off in life in better circumstances.
We were facing a liquidation of unthinkable scale, a more than even chance of deflation.
I agree completely that our government erred in not humiliating and punishing the people who injected toxins into our financial assets, because the government wanted them to use them to fix their mess. (Maybe the treasury department should have employed more bureaucrats with PhD’s from MIT.) After stringing up Wall Street aristocrats with piano wire, Obama should have immediately seized ownership of weak and tottering institutions, wiped out the stockholders, and put them all under government management. Other countries have done similar things quite successfully.
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correction: Depression effectively punishes . . .
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Obama should have immediately seized….
Now, are you seriously saying that’s in the Constitution?
We’re not other countries.
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And deflation is still a possibility.
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#25 says “Obama should have immediately seized ownership of weak and tottering institutions…”
Perhaps better advice would be: “the people should have immediately seized ownership of the government…”
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Sorry #35 vice #25 – where’s the edit button?
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The people had of course seized ownership of the White House as they do every four years. TARP was on the table, when they did so.
NJLAWYER is incorrect at #37 about the Constitution. George Washington established the constitutionaliity of Federal ownership of financial institutions in his first term, despite objections that such power was not enumerated. Lacking a constitutional proof text, Washington bequeathed to us a useful gimmick for interpreting what’s “necessary and proper.” As you know, His Excellency was a Founder.
Seizure is permitted by contract and charter under the FDIC. Furthermore, Thos. Jefferson established the constitutionality of Federal purchase of vast and fabulous assets (in his case, at “seizure” prices).
NJLAWYER is correct that we could still get deflation, an incredibly destructive social disease. Therefore, what’s wrong with Federal purchase of distressed assets at a time when capitalists are liquidating everything in sight, refusing to lend money to business people, but desperate to lend the Federal government unlimited trillions at practically no interest, for free?
Yes, the Founders explicitly authorized Federal borrowing in the Constitution.
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