Saying ‘no’ to airport body scans
Nov. 24 has been designated as “National Opt Out Day” by WeWontFly.com, a website dedicated to protesting new airport body-scanning security measures. Nearly 70 airports across the country are using full-body backscatter X-ray technology at security checkpoints. This technology essentially projects a nearly nude image of your entire body for Transportation Safety Administration (TSA) agents to see.
But passengers who choose to “opt out” of the full-body scan will receive an extremely detailed “enhanced pat-down” by TSA agents of the same sex. Be aware that during these enhanced pat-downs both men and women will have their genitals and breasts touched by TSA agents. When I recently flew out of Charlotte, N.C., I opted out and found myself being touched in ways that had me wondering if I had somehow accidentally wandered into my doctor’s office for a complete physical exam.
TSA attempts to reassure passengers with the following regarding the public touching:
- “Pat-downs are conducted by same gender officers.”
- “All passengers have the right to request private screening at any point during the screening process.”
- “Anyone has the right to have a traveling companion present during screening in the private screening area.”
In addition to the privacy issues, the X-rays are exposing passengers to regular doses of radiation. Wewontfly.com explains:
“Backscatter X-ray uses ionizing radiation, a known cumulative health hazard, to produce images of passengers’ bodies. Children, pregnant women, the elderly, and those with defective DNA repair mechanisms are considered to be especially susceptible to the type of DNA damage caused by ionizing radiation. Also at high risk are those who have had, or currently have, skin cancer. Ionizing radiation’s effects are cumulative, meaning that each time you are exposed you are adding to your risk of developing cancer.”
For people like me who fly often the radiation is a real concern.
There are other risks, such as the images going public. TSA claims the scanned images will not be stored. But early Tuesday, 100 images of full body scans taken in a Florida courthouse by U.S. Marshals were leaked online and many wonder if the government might be just as careless.
To make matters worse, these new measures have no proven success in increasing airport security, according to Rafi Sela, an Israeli security expert. Sela recently testified before the Canadian government that these full-body X-rays are “useless.” “I can overcome the body scanners with enough explosives to bring down a Boeing 747,” he said. As such, the Israeli government does not use body scans in the Tel Aviv airport. Maybe our government could learn a lesson from the Israelis?
If the U.S. government was remotely interested in not harming its own citizens, these scanners would be removed from airports immediately. Meanwhile, I’m choosing to be touched by a stranger instead of exposing myself to repeated radiation or risk having my nakedness show up on some weirdo’s website.

















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back to top49 Comments to “Saying ‘no’ to airport body scans”
It may not help catch the bad guys, but someone is making money selling the equipment to the US.
By doing this they appear to be doing something, even if it is wrong.
Reminds me about the MEXICAN BORDER. They are doing something at the border, it’s not helping, but they are doing something.
I don’t think O WANTS to stop illegals from coming into the US. He probably has someone in Arizona handing out election cards so they can vote for him in 2012. Probably why nothing will be done before 2013–IF even then.
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The idea of hundreds of people parading naked past government officials seems more like a Nazi concentration camp than an American airport. Oh, I know, passengers aren’t actually naked–but submit to naked photos or be groped by strangers–in America? Big Brother has gone too far, and I earnestly hope this nonsense is halted quickly.
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It would be one thing if it actually worked (still Constitutionally inappropriate, but another kettle of fish). But, to do this when it is essentially useless, seems to me to be preparing us for further privacy and rights eroding activities in the future.
As I keep repeating:
http://www.thestar.com/news/world/article/744199—israelification-high-security-little-bother
Behavioral Profiling: not racist, not sexist, … doesn’t infringe on anyone’s religion, and is minimally invasive to privacy. Most of all? It works. So, why aren’t we doing this again instead of molesting children and old people?
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As I understand it, Michael Chertoff is selling the machines to the US.
I have a real problem with these machines and/or the search. We are guaranteed against unreasonable search and seizure, and usually we are searched if we are suspected of a crime. Since I don’t fly often, I would probably submit to the machine, but if I did fly often, I would be worried about the radiation. I would NOT want to be groped just to get on a plane — so I doubt I’ll be flying any time soon.
I agree — molesting children and old people is not what this country should stand for. Do what works. The Israelis have succeeded without this.
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And I don’t think the government will back off.
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And don’t forget to wear clean underwear.
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I didnt have to get the full scanner or the pat down when I went through boston. Just walked through the regular ole metal detector. However, the two people in front of me did. It’s kinda slow, so they seem to do every other at least there at the time.
Do they discriminate against homosexuals obtaining the pat down job?
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Has any one ever been caught by a randomly selected enhanced search?
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Yes, I have always,until recently, “randomly” selected for enhanced search because I dress more “streetish.” I don’t know of anyone from the streets of NYC who has committed an act of terrorism, but we get singled out anyway. The TSA does profile, but unfortunately not like the Israelis. What I usually do is debate economics or Plato with my brothers as to confuse the TSA behind the counter. The last 4 flights I have been on have not selected me for enhanced search since doing this, so I figure I will keep at it. I should add some Western or Middle or Far Eastern history next time I fly. For some reason appearing “elite” gets me out of the enhanced searches.
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8. I meant have they ever caught a terrorist with a random search?
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I would most definitely opt out of the body scanner. I’m nervous about dental x-rays, let alone exposing my entire body to radiation.
The only time I was pulled for extra security was coming back from France in 08. I had been living there for 9 months. I was travelling with one over-packed carry-on and a stuffed-to-the-gills purse. The agents pulled me out of every line and requested that I unpack the bags. Naturally, I could never get everything back in just right.
I flew with some friends recently. One of our group got pulled every time. I think it was because he had no carry-on, just a wallet and a book.
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Sylvie, I’ve been planning to see the dentist soon and want to tell him not to do xrays because I had quite a few when my wrist was broken. I know how you feel.
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This is the price Americans pay for refusing to use intelligent profiling.
Political correctness has brought us to this point where we would rather accept the sexual molestation of children and old women than to admit that Muslims attacked us.
Intelligent profiling isn’t racial profiling. (Note: There is no such thing as race anyway). The Israelis use intelligent profiling. They consider ethnicity, religion, country of origin, destination, behavior, etc. They use intelligent questions.
America would rather pretend that a person who subscribes to the religion of death is no different than anyone else.
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That’s what liberals are used to — denial.
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The public overwhelmingly approves of these nudie shows dressed up as fascist order.
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Highest support no doubt among independent swing voters.
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I don’t think the employment of stupid procedures means that TSA is omitting any smart procedures recommended by the CiA.
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Here is a somewhat humorous animation about America’s nonsensical political correctness at airports.
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The thing is that we use behavioral profiling all the time in other types of security issues.
It apparently works.
And, at some point, we have to say: Which of our hard-earned rights as American citizens are we willing to flush down the toilet for “safety?”
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@ Scroop Moth:
Are you sure? I know the government keeps trying to tell us that most people are okay with these, but the only survey I’ve seen took place last January…well before the actual scans were put into use.
All the more recent surveys that I’ve seen say the exact opposite.
I think part of it is education. If you don’t fly much, and someone asks you about a “simple scan that can quickly get you on your way” then I can see a lot of people expressing a positive view.
But, once they actually confront it, and realize what we’re really talking about and how ineffective they are, then I think we’ll begin to see (as we are) a snowballing backlash against the things.
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I suppose we’re not allowed to ask for a non-homosexual same sex TSA agent for the “enhanced pat-down.”
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Highest support no doubt among independent swing voters.
Make that, independent swingers.
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Good one, buzzy. Swingers would be personally less averse to strangers groping their groins and they probably want everyone else’s groped too. I fly nude, but of course I have my own wings.
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I don’t care what happens to adults, truthfully. It’s already gone so far with interrogations and confiscations of your laptop, not to mention no-fly lists, which are the American way of internal exile. But I truly feel sorry for parents who have to pick between having their child felt up or irradiated. This isn’t Sophie’s choice, but how dispiriting.
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Well, I do care what happens to adults. Some of us have deliberately guarded our modesty, and law-abiding citizens shouldn’t have to surrender it to fly. The “right to privacy” allows people to kill their babies but not to travel without strangers looking at their nude photos?
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They aren’t nude photos. No one knows it’s you.
It’s the radiation, and over time that adds up. And little kids shouldn’t go through that either.
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Xion: Intelligent profiling isn’t racial profiling. (Note: There is no such thing as race anyway). The Israelis use intelligent profiling. They consider ethnicity, religion, country of origin, destination, behavior, etc. They use intelligent questions.
So the non-Arab radicalized Muslim convert from Cleveland sails right through.
As for the general tenor of the thread — the body scanners may be new, but the general tendency toward greater security and more restrictions started right after 9/11. There’s nothing new about that.
I also think that if Obama ordered the TSA to not use the scanners, you’d all be here accusing him of weakening security and maybe secretly hoping for a terrorist to succeed.
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#27 I’d think a radicalized muslim would be easy to pick out: think of all the Nation of Islam bow tied guys like Farrakhan. Or even the singer formerly called Cat Stevens. You cannot be a muslim and not embrace the laundry list of legalisms, including how to dress in public. You most likely wont see a muslim gal dressed as a Hooters hostess either.
When I read this thread headline the old Village People song came to mind: “Body, Body!! Wanna feel and touch my Body!”
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My paper today says the TSA says get used to it, and that they will not make religious exceptions. This might force the Muslims to realize they aren’t “special” here.
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“So the non-Arab radicalized Muslim convert from Cleveland sails
right through.”
Are you talking about an actual person?
Besides, you cant fix the issue of plane bombings by grounding planes so to speak. It would work, but its impractical. (Well I say it would work, but didnt a F-22 turn up missing yesterday?)
TSA should train its agents to read body language and mannerisms. Ever watch “Lie to Me”? Great show. Terrorists are pretty easy to profile so long as you are paying attention.
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So far, the “non-Arab radicalized Muslim convert” has yet to cause any problems. Every, single terrorist act against the US transportation system in the past decade (or longer) has been perpetrated by young, arab males. We’re giving up most of our dignity and a lot of money by pretending otherwise.
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If what ROM116 said in #9 is true, they apparently are using body language and mannerisms. A local talk show host here insists that they are doing this because the TSA has gotten information somehow that people other than young Arab males are trying their luck at blowing themselves and others up over the heartland. We’ve heard that for a long time, but the public hasn’t seen any evidence of it.
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NJL seems to be the only person I have read or heard that brings up our 4th Amendment rights against unreasonable search. If I am a suspect in a crime, take me to the police station. But if I am just a person on a pleasure or business trip, then leave me alone. Why don’t we do what Israel does? It must work as I have never heard of an ElAl plane being hijacked or blown up. I was in Israel back in the 70s and had to arrive two hours before the flight in order to get through their several tiered security system. Perhaps since we have sent them so many billions in aid, they could return the favor and come train our TSA in airport security.
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Profiling, by whatever name, is the best answer. It could have a secondary, perhaps best effect. If I, as an honest, innocent, American Citizen, attended a church that had members who engaged in behaviors that caused me to be suspect wherever I went I would pretty quickly get real upset with those members. I would either expose them, distance myself from them in some very significant way, or leave the church and find another. The only Muslims I feel sorry for are the ones who are actively upset by radical Islam. There don’t seem to be many. Maybe the embarrassment and hassle of being profiled would bring some of the peaceful Muslims out of the closet to help in this war being waged against non-Muslims.
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Profiling is not only the best answer, but the most honest.
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For an interesting conversation on the new TSA procedures go to: http://www.wttw.com/main.taf?p=42,8,80. We are told that the officials watching the scans are in a separate area and cannot see you. The woman in the discussion was told to turn around so that the officials could match her face with the scan.
I’m sorry that you will have to type in the website. I don’t know how to make it a link.
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Sorry, I guess it becomes a link automatically.
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Sorry again. WTTW mislabled the story. Don’t click on the box that says “November 17, 2010-Airport Security” but the on that says, “November 17, 2010-Springfield Update.” Go figure.
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As far as the 4th amendment goes…is TSA a government agency? Wouldnt the airline at least have a right to refuse you if you didnt want to comply with security? Kinda like no shirt no service policies at resturants?
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The 4th Amendment protects us from unreasonable search and seizure and in the past they’ve needed something to hang their hat on, i.e., maybe they suspected you of a crime. There’s no crime here. Nevertheless, I think it would be ruled reasonable considering a bomb would bring the plane down and most if not all would be lost.
My paper today had a cartoon about this. The guy asks why he’s being subjected to the patdown, etc., and the TSA guy answers because it’s still easier than taking the bus. That’s what it will come down to.
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Mostly the TSA is a useless agency but I think they are more to make people think that they are secure and prevent panic than anything. good point #40
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I’ll take that pat down, thanks.
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NJLAWYER (26): They aren’t nude photos.
Frank: No, they’re inversions of nude photos. And inversions can be … well, inverted back into nude photos: http://tinyurl.com/2576spk (viewer discretion advised).
“Well, at least they have promised not to store/save images … ”
Of course they have … of course they have …
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1) They really ARE nude photos.
2) The Israelis use BEHAVIORAL profiling, which I cannot see how anyone can object to (particularly when compared to nude scans and aggressive pat downs.)
3) The nude scans and aggressive pat downs do not make us any safer. When will we move to the cavity checks??
4) I think it is interesting that in the TSA sample photos of the scans, they often show weapons, which would have been picked up anyway without the nude scans by going through the metal detectors.
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TSA workers admit: Aggressive new pat-down intentionally designed to put a halt to “opt-outs.”
For the First Time, the TSA Meets Resistance
by Jeffrey Goldberg Oct 29 2010
[NB: Some bad language.]
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Tammy (44): I think it is interesting that in the TSA sample photos of the scans, they often show weapons, which would have been picked up anyway without the nude scans by going through the metal detectors.
Frank: Another interesting feature of those TSA sample scans: They’ve had their resolution significantly reduced — i.e., they have a blocky or shiny appearance.
But the actual resolution of the images generated by backscatter machines is sufficient to allow screeners to determine whether a woman is menstruating or if a man is circumcised.
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In a culture of fear cultivated for the last nine years, this is not surprising. And in profit driven culture of fear, its not surprising.
Hire the Isrealis and do it right. This reliance on high tech and low wages is wrong and typical of today’s business mindset.
Pay security better, train them properly and rely on human intelligience. A friend at university worked for Canadian customs every summer — just by asking typical questions and looking directly at the person talking he could easily tell who was trying to smuggle cheap cigarettes and alcohol. My experience at the American border is they never looked at me rather they talked at me (without a break and hence not gauging the reaction) and looked at the paper work. In the UK, they asked a question and watched my response. When I was younger and flew from Amsterdam to London, they were very polite but I knew they were gauging my behaviour.
And no I won’t be flying in America anytime soon — be treated like cattle isn’t on my bucket list. If I go to my brother’s I’ll drive or take the train. If I factor security, transfers, driving to the airport etc the time spent traveling isn’t much different
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If the comments here are typical, then it is clear that people on the left, the right, and elsewhere on the political landscape all find these security measures either ineffectie or inappropriate or both.
What are we going to do about it? We the people should not accept things that we find so wrong.
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These new measures almost seem ridiculous… Will they actually help?
I was flying to the west coast from New York and the airport security point seemed like a joke; I had packed two 3.4oz bottles of perfume (not a big deal to me but shouldn’t they notice?) in my suitcase. Also, the security agents seemed like they weren’t even paying attention to the people going through the checkpoint, some were off to the side talking while others lackadaisically checked boarding passes. However, I’ve also been to airports that give you a strip search for having chapstick. Anyway, I don’t know how these enhanced searches are going to go over because of all the privacy and health issues.
Security officials should be trained properly, don’t just have high tech machines look for you.
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