Movie exegesis and eisegesis

Seminaries teach the difference between exegesis and eisegesis. Exegesis is drawing out the meaning from the text, while eisegesis is reading our own interpretations into the text. When it comes to the Bible, exegesis is the way to go, since eisegesis substitutes our own conceptions for God’s immaculate ones. But one reason favorite movies lists differ so widely is that when we watch in the dark we bring to light some of our own preoccupations.
Here’s an example: Field of Dreams, the 1989 fantasy-drama starring Kevin Costner as an Iowa corn farmer who hears a voice telling him to build a baseball diamond in his fields. When he does, Shoeless Joe Jackson and others from the Chicago Black Sox come, followed by more long-dead major leaguers and a formerly major league writer. The movie is nutty in many ways, yet each time I see it I get choked up.
Why? In part it’s the question of reconciliation with fathers, a central theme of the film. In part it’s baseball: Fenway Park, where one scene takes place, was a substitute home for me. In part is its attitude toward the 1960s, when leftist attitudes were a substitute religion for characters in the movie and for me. That’s all exegesis.
But Field of Dreams also gets to me because I eisegete it in Christian ways. The ghostly baseball players to me are the equivalent of things unseen. The dramatic change of heart of a materialistic brother is what happens when people are born again: Suddenly the unseen becomes visible. The movement into the cornfield of the writer played by James Earl Jones is our stepping heavenward: If we trust Christ and the Bible then death is not the end but the beginning of a great adventure.
Did the author of the original story, the screenwriter who adapted it, or the director see it that way? Did any of the actors? I strongly doubt it. Are my equations legitimate? In terms of auteur intentions, certainly not. But that’s what the film means to me. Does anyone else see it that way? Or, a broader question: Which movies move you emotionally, and is that because of exegesis or eisegesis?

















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I like basebal, movies, sentiment and history. All are life-long passions. But the movie “Field of Dreams” was as stupid to me. I thought that the moment I saw it and still do. Even my intellectual hero, Marvin Olasky, has not changed my mind. I have to think of Saul bothering Samuel to conjure up the witch of Endor… Okay, it’s not the same thing.
Now, if the movie had resurrected Christy Mathewson, well that’s another story!!!
Smile.
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One of my favorite movies is one that some on this blog may not like because of the use of the f-word. Nevertheless, the movie has a good message. It is even used in a respite care facility after I recommended it to one of the women who started the facility and worked there. That movie is “Marvin’s Room”.
Of interest, too, is that I only watched the movie after my teen daughter and her friend had rented it and hated it. I figured I might as well give it a try and ended up laughing and crying my way through it.
I believe the reason they hated it was because they simply could not identify with it. The reason I loved it was because the opposite was true. I had found out I could do the hard things life sometimes asks of us, even though I was scared and that there is joy in the doing. It seemed that was the point of the movie in a nutshell. That is exegesis, I believe.
Perhaps it would be eisegesis to say that I know that is true when it it something the Lord asks me to do.
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I think dreamism (the worship of our own dreams) is today’s most powerful and popular idolatrous religion in the pampered West.
President Obama worships at the altar of dreamism. Listen to him on the 2009th anniversary of Roe v Wade:
* “On this anniversary, we must also recommit ourselves more broadly to ensuring that our daughters have the same rights and opportunities as our sons: the chance to attain a world-class education; to have fulfilling careers in any industry; to be treated fairly and paid equally for their work and to have no limits on their dreams. That is what I want for women everywhere.” (President Barack Obama, January 22, 2009, the 36th anniversary of Roe V Wade.)
In other words, we shouldn’t let human life itself stand in the way of our DREAMS. Okay, what is really sacred here???
By the way, this is not a critque of any harmless movie but a criticism of dreamism in general.
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Not being a fan of modern movies, I sha’n't comment on that. However I regard Fenway Park in eisegetic terms. My grandfather took me to this temple of a park to watch such heroes as Williams, [ both Dom and Joe], Doerr, and Pesky.
In later years I came to seriously worship in real churches, though as a young boy Fenway prepared me to understand the meaning of at least a semi-sacred place. Having watched the St. Louis Cardinals, including Musial, at Fenway, in 1946 defeat the Sox, 4-3 games, to say nothing of defeats to the Yankees on many occasion, one is rather familiar with the reality of Satan in the world.
My children have tried to get me interested in the Patriots stadium, though having been there a few times it pales by comparison to Fenway. Tom Brady, a great quarterback, is no Ted Williams, at least in terms eisegesis. Gilette Stadium has more to do with razors than a Fenway place of honor.
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Quote:
* “Reality is wrong. Dreams are for real.” Tupak Shakur. Dream is also one of Oprah’s favorite words.
I prefer Shakespeare:
* “True, I talk of dreams, which are the children of an idle brain, begot of nothing but vain fantasy.” ~ William Shakespeare (15640-1616), Romeo and Juliet, Act i. Sc. 2.
I prefer the Bible even more:
* “Much dreaming and many words are meaningless. Therefore stand in awe of God.” (Ecclesiastes 5:7).
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MO: The movie is nutty in many ways, yet each time I see it I get choked up.
Frank: I’m the same way with “Stranger Than Fiction.”
Seen it many, many times. But I get all choked up each time
a) Kay sees Harold for the first time;
b) Harold hands Kay her final draft and tells her, “Finish it. It’s perfect”; and
c) when she tries to finish it, and, weeping, beats the hell out of her cigarettes in frustration.
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(Eisegeting all the way, of course.)
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I really like several movies, but the only one that actually will bring tears to my eyes is The Nativity Story. Despite several inaccuracies and some uneccessary additions, it somehow captures something of the wonder of the incarnation, especially at the scene of Jesus’ birth. Maybe it is partly the wonder of childbirth, the first real delivery I saw brought tears to my eyes too.
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Speaking of Field of Dreams:
http://global.nationalreview.com/images/photoshop_122111_A.jpg
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Hi,
I’m new here, though I’ve been a WORLD subscriber (on-again/off-again but mostly on-again) for more than twelve years. I honestly think that if every American read WORLD, America would be a better place morally, economically, socially, educationally and certainly spiritually.
I’ve checked out the forums/comments here a few times and appreciate the civility I’ve not found in other places.
Anyway, I have never seen FIELD OF DREAMS, I never wanted to but am familiar with the tag line and have seen bits. I really thought that link to the national review photoshopped image was great BTW, KEN. It reminds me of something I once heard:
“The Federal Government: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. If it stops moving, subsidize it.”
More on topic, there are many worthy movies, and many more unworthy, but what’s fresh in my mind are the recent ones based on Lewis’ CHRONICLES. I add a caveat to that by readily acknowledging that some of the acting makes me downright uncomfortable, yet I think they still managed somehow to get some of the Lewis dignity across and some timeless biblical truths. I confess, I haven’t read all of the novels – only one in fact. I want to read them all but I am currently reading the biography of Bonhoeffer I got with my last WORLD subscription. WWII is one of my favorite topics in both movies and books, fiction and non-fiction; but I digress.
I completely agree with what I think was the original premise here and would say that exegesis is the most important; certainly where Bible interpretation is concerned. Perhaps the best movie/reading experience is when exegesis and eisegesis meet, as is usually the case with Scripture and was the case for me a few days ago when I watched THE VOYAGE OF THE DAWN TREADER. Despite acting deficiencies, I completely related to Reepicheep (is that his name?) when he willingly crossed over to Aslan’s land. It’s been a long time now that I have been of the mind that I long to see the Day of the Lord. The character’s decision in no way bespoke of discontentment nor of a lack of joy, but he wanted to go and it reminded me of Christian’s crossing the River Jordan in Bunyan’s great work. I particularly appreciated the song at the end of the movie. I had never heard it before but much of the lyric was amazingly applicable for me in many ways. I watched the credits long enough to find out what it was called and who recorded, then promptly bought an mp3 copy.
So, sorry this is long. It’s just my opinions, for what it’s worth.
Thanks WORLD.
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#9 KEN, the image is more like a Field of Nightmares! I might need to use, not exegesis, or eisegesis, but Thera-Gesic to help with the pain from that picture.
#10 PEMBERLEY, welcome, hope to read more of your posts in the future. I have read all the novels, and believe you will enjoy them all when you get to them.
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#5 JOEL MARK, your post was a home run!
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JM:
You have been peddling dreams professionally for a long time.
But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream , saying, Joseph, thou son of David , fear not to take unto thee Mary…
“Dream” appears 74 times in your bible, most commonly containing directions from your god, but ocasionally in a negative sense.
Of course dreams of a heaven for the deserving must be true…
One theological query comes to mind.
Why do you suppose your god spoke personally to Adam and Eve, (and perhaps the serpent), then appeared as a burning bush to Moses, and then had to use an angel and dream intermediary to speak to Joseph?
Is he losing contact or interest? Or maybe these appearances become less magical as man gets smarter?
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To Arcadia,
I haven’t been here long enough to know what you are about but I don’t get your post.
I think you must misunderstand the Christian concept of salvation. Does someone here think that “heaven” is for “the deserving”? It’s my understanding that Christians acknowledge that they are “undeserving”; that it is “by grace that ye are saved, not of works lest any man should boast.”
I have never before encountered anyone who takes issue with the methods that Scriptures say “god” used to communicate when He chose to do so. Are you insinuating that the “bible” is moot because it claims “god” spoke in different ways? What difference does it make? Why the use of the word “had” when He used an angel, etc. to speak to Joseph? Why not the word “‘chose’ to use”…?
It strikes me as an arrogance to assume Adam (or Eve) were not smart or that our generation is smarter than every generation before us.
LEO — thanks for the welcome.
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Arcadia says: ‘…as man gets smarter’
As if evolution was true.
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Dream on Arcadia.
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ARCADIA, did you even notice that in the Shakespeare quote I shared, he was able to criticize fantasy dreaming while he acknowledged that he himself talked of dreams. Like Shakespeare, presumably, I do affirm that dreams have their place in cultural discourse and can be creatively healthy, but it is important to keep them in perspective and not worship our own dreams. When dreaming is all the rage (as it is today in our narcissistic Oprahfied culture) an we are also losing our work ethic and our grip on reality as a people, then maybe we have lost some perspective.
I made some comments aimed at encouraging friends on this blog to be careful about dreaming and keep it tethered to a bigger perspective. What I have advocated for years, ARCADIA, is not dreams but that bigger picture beyond mere human dreaming. The bible paints that bigger picture and the references to dreams therein simply make up small details on the way to that bigger picture.
The answers to the questions you asked can be found i the Bible so i refer you to it.
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Actually JM, the thrust of your post seems to be that you are in the dream killing business. In your sense, I agree. That, among other things is what scares the business wing of your party.
But you are also in the postmortem dream selling business…
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Pemberley
arcadia is an anti-christian bigot that comes here to cause trouble.
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#19 “And the servant of the Lord must not strive, but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient;
In meekness instructing those who oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them
repentance to the acknowledging of the truth:”
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Great artcle. Like JM, I hated Feild of Dreams. I hate when people share their grandiose dreams and expect the world to join them. Your premise is great. I believe I have a eisegesical love for the movie “The Natural”. I know what it is to be born to be good at something, but find your life confounded by sins. When you break free of sins, (through forgiveness in Christ) you find success. It’s not promised to everyone, but there are people born for a purpose who can’t find their way to accomplish it, until they deal with their sins. Lion King has a similar theme. So, maybe that exegesis or eisegesis from the auteur (great word), but either way, it touched me deeply.
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I agree with tw, Arcadia isn’t a bigot. He’s a very worthy thoughtfully agressive anti-Christian. Arcadia, if you’re ever in Arcadia, CA, I’d love to buy you lunch. I’m not that persuasive or eloquent, but you are, and I’d be thoroughly entertained by your excellent well referenced challenges.
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