The primary problem
Disheartened conservatives, contemplating the nomination of yet another member of the Republican B-team (legacy division) might be breathing a sigh of relief after Saturday. Had Mitt Romney won South Carolina, the campaign would effectively be over.
Conservatives may be grateful for this reprieve. Yet they should also be asking: Why should they need a reprieve in a primary race for the presidential nomination of a party they overwhelmingly control? More to the point: What explains the string of mediocre Republican candidates who have turned Ronald Reagan’s 49-state coalition in 1984 into the contemporary scramble to cobble together a Rovian Electoral College majority? Simply put, this is the natural outcome of a presidential nominating system of, by, and for the moderate Republican establishment—at the expense of the party’s electoral success and political effectiveness.
What are the essential elements of this establishment-friendly nominating process? First, early primaries in idiosyncratic and politically moderate states with open caucuses or primaries that artificially inflate the standing of the establishment standard-bearer. Second, a “Super Tuesday” a month or so later that allows the establishment candidate to consolidate his advantage and effectively end any remaining conservative opposition.
When did this system first appear? In 1988, as it turns out. Eight years after Reagan fought on until his 1980 campaign moved more decidedly into the states that, then and now, most reflect the conservative Republican majority, the landscape changed decidedly. Counting a 17-state super-Super Tuesday exactly one month after Iowa, 29 states voted in first five weeks of 1988—and the campaign was over: game, set, and match to the elder Bush.
With some variation, the pattern established in 1988 has been repeated in the years since, with the lamentable results noted above. Could a different pattern have produced different results? Consider briefly how the 2012 campaign might have unfolded if, to make a single change, the Iowa Republican caucus had been limited to Republican voters. Based upon exit poll data, the new results would have been: Rick Santorum 29 percent, Romney 27 percent, and Newt Gingrich and Ron Paul 14 percent each.
In this context, Santorum might have won a decisive victory among the not-Romney candidates in New Hampshire and cemented his status as the conservative alternative going in to South Carolina. Now add one more wrinkle: What if Louisiana, Oklahoma, and Utah had voted the same day as New Hampshire? How much less would Romney’s win mean if balanced by losses in two or three other states? What if, in sum, Republicans actually chose their own candidate and the states that most reflect the Republican mainstream had the most influence on that choice?
There is a simple way to begin to make this happen. Suppose three solidly red states each passed an identical law to New Hampshire’s, which requires its primary be held at least seven days before any similar contest. The resulting legal paradox would force New Hampshire into a choice between setting a date so early as to make its primary an absurdity or to share its “first-in-the-nation” status with more conservative competitors. A similar state (or two) with a closed caucus or primary might also challenge Iowa’s position at the head of the line. Any state with a Republican legislature and governor can take these steps tomorrow—and conservatives should ask that they do so.

















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You can tinker with the process as smartly as you prefer to dream up, the pool from which the candidates arise remains the same.
We see the voting booth and the candidates are “us.”
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Mediocre field is right. I’m slipping into an official state of denial. This is it … ?
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This whole A-team, B-team thing is nuts. Remember how badly people wanted Perry in the race? Maybe the so-called A-team members don’t want to be in the game. The vetting process is not for wimps!
Wouldn’t it be real smart on the part of the Republicans to go through this whole nominating-vetting process, then come to the convention and pick an A-teamer who will be vetted in his/her first term as president?
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Some candidates started running for the 2012 nomination the day after Barack was sworn in on 1/20/2009. Agreed that Iowa and NH are not at all representative of the nation over all? What’s to be done? Encourage more Hispanics and blacks to move to those states? The Iowa Ag industry already has a sizable contingent of migratory Hispanic laborers. Maybe those folks should be amnestied to gain legal status? What if to vote in 2012 primary you had to still have proof of voting in 2008?
For me the best fix is simply randomly generating the sequence of primaries and not telling anyone until the random drawings are held. Announce the sequence 6 mos out from the general election. With live streaming and teleconferencing debates can happen with candidates far afield. No need to go eat a hot dog at an Iowa fairground or don a mariachi sombrero in San Antonio
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Better yet, use census data. A state that had a net gain in population would be an early primary. A state hemmorhaging citizens would be later on and I’d even suggest decreasing the electoral votes of the states folks are fleeing from.
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The fact brought out by this article is that 98% of Americans are disenfranchised by the current primary system. In ‘08 once McCain won New Hampshire, the race was (essentially) over. If Romney had won SC, same deal.
As a slap in the face, I was in North Carolina in ‘08, where their primary was one of the last to vote. Huckabee was still on my ballot (among others), even though McCain was already choosing his running mate.
We either decide to do a national primary, where all states vote on the same day, or not at all, and just let the delegates do whatever the heck they want anyway. Because ultimately, our votes are meaningless, and the nominee is decided by the party elite anyway.
Then we go through the same motions every four years and hold our noses in November, when deciding between the lesser of two evils. I have yet to vote for a candidate that I felt strongly for prior to the primaries. GWB was never my choice as the Republican nominee, but that race in 2000 was already decided even by the time they got to the Florida primary.
Does it surprise anyone that a few states are already seeing their irrelevancy in the process and therefore moving up their primary date? It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out that the current system is most definitely broken.
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So it went from B-team (Romney) to F-team (Gingrich) and I should breathe a sigh of relief over that?
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http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/288989/gingrich-republican-clinton-rich-lowry
NR and Ann Coulter have declared a loud and thunderous “Dog pile on Newt!”
They better hope the Speaker has a short memory!
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Memorandum to Newt:
If you debate Barack you must
Shave an hour before the debate
Make sure the room is at a comfortable temp
Do not look at your watch
Do not audibly sigh; leastways don’t do it on camera.
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a decisive victory among the not-Romney candidates in New Hampshire
CORBin & PARKS are making the confused argument that an open primary is bad in Iowa but useful in New Hampshire. If Santorum could attain a victory in the latter state among his faction of the party whey couldn’t he have done the same in the former state?
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Sawgunner:
A state hemmorhaging citizens would be later on and I’d even suggest decreasing the electoral votes of the states folks are fleeing from.
But that actually does happen, when Congressional seats are reapportioned after each decennial census.
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As a Californian, I really feel left out of the whole process. Here I am, in the state with the greatest population, and my vote is irrelevant.
There are a number of ways to fix this system to make it fair. Any child could come up with something better!! Grab an elementary age child, explain the situation, and ask him or her what they would suggest. Kids usually have a better grasp on fairness than us “adults”.
One thing that I am adamently opposed to, however, are open primaries. They really are stupid.
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What we need is a National Primary Day. All parties pick their nominee on the same day. No cross party nonsense influencing the vote. It’s the only fair way. Start the debates 1 year from election day. 6 months away you do a national primary day, the nominees are decided, the election begins. Everybody’s equal.
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Hoping that’s no more than wishful thinking AJ, as we have more than enough government limits on our political process. I think the principle behind our 1st and 10th Amendments would oppose this. It wasn’t long after our founding that the natural process of forming “political factions.” Maybe we could also make all the trains run on time
I’m being facetious, of course.
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I’m beginning to think the “smoke filled rooms” were no worse than the present system.
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Chas, me too, and a long-held thought by many. We think we’re so smart, don’t we?
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Interesting analysis! I lived in Iowa for many years and defended the Caucus. They lost all their credibility this year. And I agree with the further thoughts – NH, SC haven’t shown themselves to be any “better” than Iowa at this. Part of the problem, of course, is the media making this a horse race right from the start. The Iowa Straw Poll isn’t even a good joke – but it was given high credibility. Open primaries? What organization would allow the competition to participate in their most important decisions? Just stupid.
I guess I should have saved all this for Rants and Raves!
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Louise,
Explain please. I don’t see why it’s an issue with either. We already do it for election day, primaries would be no different. The govt is permitted to decide election days, why would this be any different?
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Oh, I see. It’s all NH’s fault, because we won’t share. Right!
I just watched the head of Panera Bread give his take on the political process. He said that we all agree as to what the problems are. But our political system is designed in such a way to prevent progress.
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Xion, the head of Panera is correct. Everything wrong has a consticuency.
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I don’t see this field as mediocre. I think the idea that it is mediocre is merely an echo of the usual Lame Stream lie that conservatives are stupid. The truth is that this is an exceptionally good slate of candidates. It’s a pity that some of the best have been railroaded out of the nomination already by the cacophony of the Lame Stream media and their seemingly endless supply of mindless hacks. I’m not sure that there is any configuration of primary timing and voting that would prevent the media from turning into a hateful screeching mob. They serve the Left, consciously or subconsciously. They hate conservatism the way demons hate Jesus. It’s their nature to tear us down and denigrate our worth. We’ve got to find other ways of blocking them out than buying into their lies and moping around apologetically.
I think it’s fantastic that Ron Paul gets to teach the nation some basics about good economic policy and modern-day constitutionalism. That hasn’t happened for a long time in a GOP primary. I think Newt is one of our most effective legislative warriors and it’s high time we dusted him off sent him back into the fray. Anyone who can’t see through the old Clinton lies they constantly throw at him needs to go back to class to study the 90s more closely. Perry would’ve been a great president, the kind who’s own ego would never get in the way of letting his staff or the country do what they’re best qualified to do and succeed at it. Santorum is far too good a president for America, we don’t deserve someone so pure-hearted and unsullied. How great it would’ve been to elect a Sarah Palin or Michelle Bachmann as the first woman president of the USA.
I’m really not sure what all the belly-aching on our side of the aisle is about unless it’s just obtuseness. True it would be a shame to let the Establishment finangle another Bob Dole in as the nominee and contrary to what they always say they expect while they’re telling us he’s the only good choice, he’d be the most likely to lose to Obama. But even Romney, as far as Bob Doles go, is better than John McCain or Bob Dole himself. I’d especially consider him if he picked a truly conservative running mate, which he probably would.
The thing to remember is that the president is only the president, the real work is always done by Congress. What we need more than a conservative presidential nominee is lots of conservatives in Congress. We need to get Boehner out of the way and get lots more Tea Party folks in and start finally gittin some gitterdone done.
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AJ, I think because state elections for state electors to the elctoral college shouldn’t be controlled by a centralized federal government. It would be a whole new philosophy towards governing which I think would be a huge mistake. We have more than enough centralized problems as it is.
But eliminating the Electoral College, as the Clintons and other Democrats have long espoused, is another debate. I’m all for majority rule, except for when it “disenfranchises” the minority states.
Let the messy process work its will and keep us from the instant gratification of organized immediacy.
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Waikol… The current president has issued presidential directives and led the agencies to bring ruin to our country and make us vulnerable to potential enemies.
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I find it a bit amusing that many seem to think changing the way primaries are done will somehow yield better results. The candidates that want to run are the ones that run. Nobody gets to pick them. If a candidate is popular the polling will show it and that candidate will win the primaries and caucuses. The candidates that don’t think they can win drop out the race. What am I missing?
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Ummm…this article should have been sent back to editorial for a few more passes!
You suggest that things might have been different for Rick Santorum had he won a more decisive victory, but that theory was just tested in 2008 by Mike Huckabee. The Iowan race is a not a moderating influence in the Republican nomination fight, it’s so far too the right wing OUT OF THE MAINSTREAM the winner is completely irrelevant.
Your “simple solution” is to have three (not one but three) states simultaneously pass controversial laws in order to create a legal paradox that will influence lawmakers in New Hampshire to take action that’s not in their states best interest? By what possible means could you call that simple?!
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NOPM, you’re missing nothing. You’re right on. I’m glad you’re resisting the temptation of thinking we can perfect the system.
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Right Redwal, nothing simple about any of this. With all our technical, electronic, mathematical formulas for everything, even aiding our “social media,” how can we expect to simplify a human political process. Or has our culture of gadgets made us so lazy we think we can transfer it to elections.
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“What organization would allow the competition to participate in their most important decisions? Just stupid.”
Just stupid? No. It’s even worse, it’s ludicrous, asinine, insane…
It’s like paying your business competition to take your customer database…
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No… bad analogy…
It’s more like paying your business competition to create your customer database, while keeping theirs under wraps…
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Chas, what’s your point? The next president should pick up where BO leaves off and continue using the power of the Executive Branch unconstitutionally? Or maybe you just don’t think it matters who’s in Congress?
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REDWAL, the real significance of the Iowa caucus is as a gauge of Evangelical political sentiment. That may not be a majority demographic but it’s hardly “irrelevant”. It is actually the core constituency of the Reagan majority coalition. Without winning Christian conservatives, no GOP nominee can hope to recreate that majority. What we’ve seen is that no one yet speaks for that constituency. Santorum may have won their endorsement in Iowa but only because Sarah Palin didn’t run, because Perry isn’t a silver-tongued smoothy and because Bachmann isn’t a man. Just because you and most of the rest of the Lame Stream refuse to admit it doesn’t mean that the majority in this country isn’t still closer in spirit to Iowa than they are to New Hampshire.
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A note about “open primaries”!
You’re all over reacting. You would eliminate the ability of interested independent voters to have a say in the nomination process to gain nothing. Currently, independents get to choose between a choice between A & B or A & C. That’ a good system, and it’s sure to give you a candidate that is better positioned to get elected.
And you’d gain nothing by closing your primary because Democrats (were they interested in such a thing and nothing but the usual late night TV and talk radio jokes suggest that they are) could easily change their registration to vote in a closed primary, and Republicans to vote in a Democratic primary.
Republicans can’t win an election without independents so you’d better start learning to value our input! Closing us out of you’re primaries is not the way to build a big tent.
…Of course it’s state governments who decide whether the primaries in their state will be open or closed not state parties. So talking about it as a matter of party strategy is also ridiculous outside the context of statewide advocacy. Meaning if you’d like you change the primary process in your state from open to closed you’ll likely need support from Democrats.
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I wouldn’t let anyone who is not a party member to vote in a primary.
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People are too lazy to change their registration.
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I’m rather impressed with the current field of Republican candidates.
1. They are courageous given that the country is in such horrible shape and they are willing to step up to a tough task. Imagine the criticism thy will face.
2. They knowthey will be targets of a self-righteous leftist mainstream media and fairness will not be afforded to them. But that does not stop them.
3. I consider how intelligent, exoerienced and articulate Newt Gingrich is and he is my LEAST favorite of the three. Far ahead of Gingrich (in my mind at least) are Rick Santorum (first) and Mitt Romney, both highly decent and devoted men who love their families first and also love this country and are willing to serve at their best in tough times.
i think we have a good field.
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An outsider perspective;
open primaries don’t make sense. Political parties should pick their own leaders through rules established by that political party not the gov’t.
I like caucuses more than primaries because its more involved and demands participation. it has an old fashioned grassroots democratic feel to it.
As for the order, that should be a party decision not a state gov’t decision. Although a one day primary/caucus may be the simplest solution — the long drawn out present process has some benefits. The spectacle of candidates visiting every county fair in Iowa is a good demonstration to the rest of the world of American democracy. However, I would juggle the order every four years to partially take in the criticism of the columnists — each party should re-order the primary/caucus with the state which voted the most for that particular party by percentage be given the first primary/caucus. For example, Utah, Idaho, Wyoming and Oklahoma all voted over 60% for McCain and thus they should hold the first primary/caucus. (Of course, Im not sure if that will result in a candidate which will appeal to independents but hey it takes into account the columnists’ concerns
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Waik, it isn’t Clinton’s lies that are tripping up Gingrich, but his own sins and the fact that many of us consider him completely and totally untrustworthy if he hasn’t repented, completely untested if he has. He isn’t a good candidate; he’s morally unqualified for public office.
Oh, and Joel Mark, there are still four candidates in the race, not three. I don’t think Gingrich is honorable, and I don’t know about Romney one way or the other, but Santorum and Paul both seem to be good men. It’s still hardly the caliber of candidates I would want to see, though. The best ones get attacked viciously (like Cain, possibly, assuming the accusations weren’t true, and like Paul).
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One thing about the long drawn out process is it lets a little known candidate concentrate in one state and build momentum. I think that having a national primary (or whatever) on the same day would favor the established politicians that are known.
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It would be nice if there were a way to keep the results a secret until the national convention. Wouldn’t it be great to go into the convention knowing that one of the candidates was about to be nominated–but not knowing which one?
I am against open primaries and caucuses. Join the party and stick to it. If you want to change, then do so officially and stick to it. Don’t switch back and forth. If you want to remain independent, then decide among the nominees of the various parties when it comes to the general election.
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Louise,
I don’t think AJ is talking about the electoral college or how state electors are chosen for that. That’s already controlled at the national level, as specified in the Constitution, and will be done nationwide on Nov. 6 this year.
I think he is instead talking about state primaries. I agree that the federal government shouldn’t be involved in that process. It ought to be up to the various states and political parties how that process will run.
Agreed that it’s another debate, but I think that even a cursory look at the numbers shows that it is not voters in “minority” states (I assume you meant in less populated states?) that are being “disenfranchised”, but rather those in the largest states.
I pulled the electoral vote counts and 2010 populations by state from http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/thepoliticalsystem/a/2012-Electoral-Votes-By-State.htm, and did a quick calculation of population divided by electoral votes.
The overall average is that it takes about 574,000 people per electoral vote:
(State, # Votes, Population, Pop/EV)
Overall 538 308,745,538 573,876.46
The five states where it takes the fewest votes to have an EV are:
Wyoming 3 563,626 187,875.33
District of Columbia 3 601,723 200,574.33
Vermont 3 625,741 208,580.33
North Dakota 3 672,591 224,197.00
Alaska 3 710,231 236,743.67
Those happen to be the five least populous states.
At the other end of the spectrum, the five states where it takes the most people per EV are:
Illinois 20 12,830,632 641,531.60
Florida 29 18,801,310 648,321.03
Texas 38 25,145,561 661,725.29
New York 29 19,378,102 668,210.41
California 55 37,253,956 677,344.65
Those happen to be the five most populous states. So, it is those, if anyone, who would have a claim to be disenfranchised under the electoral college system. As a New Yorker, when I consider that on a per-electoral vote basis, a voter in Wyoming’s vote is weighted 3.56 times as heavily as my own, I certainly do feel comparatively disenfranchised.
I also hasten to add that “disenfranchisement” occurs when one person’s vote is counted more heavily than anothers. It doesn’t happen when one’s preferred side or candidate loses. If in November, the Democrats win in NY, Republicans here have not been disenfranchised, any more than Democrats would be disenfranchised if they live in TX and a Republican wins. We have a right to have our votes count equally, but not a right for our side to win.
If I had a preferred change, it would be to allocate EV’s based on the winner in each congressional district, with two votes going to the statewide winner. Of course, each state is free to select the manner of chosing its own electors. Were that the case, some of my state’s electoral votes might go Republican, rather than NY being a “safe” Democratic state. I think it woulf make a more competetive race.
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RoyClay, I like the info in your posts, but state legislatures decide how their electors are to be chosen to the electoral college, so I need to be sure we’re talking about the same elections, governments and populations. You’ve given me a lot else to compare, too. I’m retired from NYS and, unless I read this too quickly, I’m unsure of which elections and representatives you are comparing, especially differentiated between state and federal.
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Louise: Quick answer to your question in 41: Electoral college votes are based on number of Senators plus number of Congressmen. So each state has a minimum of three, no matter how small the state. That gives smaller states disproportionate representation–intentionally and appropriately. (A state with three times as many residents doesn’t get three times as many votes. It might only get one or two extra votes, because it too is starting with two Senators plus representatives.) It means that presidential candidates shouldn’t simply ignore Idaho, as they might choose to do if it had proportional representation. If the smallest states only got one vote instead of three, they might as well be ignored. Both the system of two Senators per state no matter how small and minimum of three electors no matter how small keep smaller states represented.
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Cheryl, looks like you might have read your research right. You agree? How would you improve the process?
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Louise, I don’t like the way the candidates are chosen in the primaries, but I think the electoral process is wise.
I think primaries should be closed, and somehow should be set up so that one person happening to win two or three early ones doesn’t make everyone else’s vote irrelevant. I like the idea of rotating who goes first, actually, and doing it by lottery or some method of rotating; I’d never heard that suggestion, but I think it’s better than giving Iowa and New Hampshire dominance year after year. Or even have states “earn” the right for first primaries somehow.
I personally preferred the days when candidates were chosen at the convention, and I wouldn’t be opposed to all primaries taking place the same day (we all know equal amounts about each candidate) or at least over a fairly short period of time.
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The “A” team was a)smart enough not to succumb to the pathological hatred of Obama that permeates this board and b)patient enough to realize that unseating any President is difficult, especially if the public remembers, however dimly, the huge steaming pile of dung that his predecessor left for him in the oval office.
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Cheryl, I also prefer closed primaries and hope that VA’s Jeffersonian outlook will be changed for a more deomocratic process in this much more complex political century.
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Arcadia, you are making yourself more miserable than necessary. Honest.
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It is what it is; I prefer Santorum to Romney, too. But more importantly, I prefer Romney over BHO! I like The Real AJ’s idea in #13; let’s have Parks/Corbin comment on that…
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The Republican Party has announced that they would reduce the number of delegates by 50% because they “held their primary out of turn”.
Florida should pass a law that fines any party for the amount of the total cost of the election, if they penalize Florida based on an act of the Legislature, with the penalty for not paying the fine having the entire party banned from the ballot.
If the primaries are the parties’ business, then they should pay the costs. If paying for primaries is the state’s responsibility, then they get to set the rules on what they pay for.
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