A pyrrhic victory?
The breakaway Episcopal congregations in Virginia, who left in 2006 over the American denomination’s liberal theology, have lost the latest round in the legal battle over the church property. Some have warned their members to expect to move within a few months.
In a 113-page ruling issued Jan. 10, Fairfax County Circuit Court Judge Randy Bellows reversed a ruling he made in 2008 giving custody to the conservative congregations. The Virginia Supreme Court overturned that ruling in 2010 and ordered a new trial.
At issue is ownership of seven Virginia churches, including two prominent, historic congregations that trace their roots to George Washington: Truro Church in Fairfax and The Falls Church, for which the city of Falls Church is named. But it is not clear that the denomination, on the verge of finally winning the battle that began in 2006, has either the members or the money to keep operating the churches themselves.
The disputes within the Episcopal Church have raged openly since 2003, when the denomination consecrated an openly gay bishop in New Hampshire who had left his wife. The issues have since broadened to a range of theological issues, including fundamental interpretations of Scripture.
The lawsuit itself has been winding its way through the courts since 2007, shortly after Truro and The Falls Church voted overwhelmingly in December 2006 to break away from The Episcopal Church and align with the conservative Convocation of Anglicans in North America, a group supported by the Anglican Church of Nigeria.
The Episcopal Church, with about 2 million members, is a U.S. affiliate of the Anglican Communion, which has 77 million members worldwide. Many of the international branches in the Anglican church, especially those in Africa, are far more theologically conservative than the American and British wings. … MORE >>
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The sad part is the Anglican Communion Leadership warned the Episcopal Church Leadership not to take church’s to court if those church’s decide to leave the Episcopal Church, but wishes to stay with inside the Anglican Communion.
But as we see, once a church starts to embrace sexual sins and reject God’s Word. They also start to reject the leadership above them. It is another sad example of a once great Christian Group which has all from grace into sin. With no idea that they have left God and His Word to embrace a false teaching that has trapped people into sexual sin.
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I pray that God would send a true revial to the Episcopal Church’s that would change the hearts and minds of the people. An the people would rise up an remove those wick leaders who have lead them away from God and His Son Jesus an into sin.
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One man (Vicky Gene Robinson) embraces sodomy and an entire denomination implodes. Amazing one man’s sin could have so far-reaching an effect.
Incidently, V. Gene got his name because his dad wanted a daughter. I assume the boy grew up hearing that and I’m sure there’s a therapist somewhere who would attributed Robinson’s homosexuality as a consequence of that initial (lifelong?) rejection from his padre.
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Sawgunner The man got his job because the leadership embraces sodomy and then the entire denomination implodes.
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It would be sad for these congregations to lose their beautiful historic buildings and addresses, but sometimes really good things come out of those kinds of hardships. God would not be offended by their necessary (maybe) move to a storefront.
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Could be worse.. they could be having to meet in a NYC empty school room on Sunday morning!
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Les points out that the Episcipol Church may not be able to afford these churches. They both would require lots of maintenance. Maybe they will sell them back to the churches.
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Ironic that churches in the not-so-deep south (with all the attendant historic baggage THAT entails) now are “seceding” from predominantly liberal and Caucasian leadership to submit themselves to being sheparded by African pastors. Sorta trumps the old canard about Sunday at 11am being the most segregated hour in the week.
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Perhaps the breakaway churches can now say, “Silver and gold have I none; but such as I have give I thee: In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth rise up and walk.” (Acts 3:6)
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That’s a good rebuttal illustration to the people who insist “evangelical” means “racist”. That whole struggle in the Episcopal church is not common knowledge.
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Chas – Here is Colorado Springs. the building are over 100 years old. Since the Episcipol Church can not pay for the up keep. They have just asked the State for money.
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As a former Episcopalian and Southerner, it is really refreshing to be under the Bishops of Nigeria where more emphasis is put on your personal relationship with God.
There are now several new diocese out there. My church was under the Diocese of the Holy Spirit but now we are under the diocese of the Atlantic Gulf Coast. The African church took us in and helped us and are now turning leadership back over to Bishops in the United States.
To get a feel for what the Anglican Church in America looks like you can click on the link
http://www.e-cota.org/
Be sure to read some of the missions, look at some of the photos, and read what we believe.
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For what it is worth the Episcopal church was never racist in the South. Many priests, deacons, nuns, etc were very involved in the Civil Rights Movement.
A lot of Jews hid out in the Anglican and Episcopal Church when they fled Nazi Germany.
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#11 Pastor Roy, I certainly don’t mean to contradict you, but that doesn’t sound like something the Episcopal Diocese would allow.
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Kim – They have the bless of the Episcopal Diocese out here. The reason if they can not keep up on the building. Then they would be force to sale the buildings.
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The break away Church lead by Fr Armstrong just purchased a night club and turn it into a Church.
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For years Truro Episcopal Church has been theologically conservative and, more than that, activist (as in being a center for pro-life activities). The liberal diocese put up with Truro and its activities because the money contributed by Truro to the diocese was more than all the liberal churches combined. To lose Truro and Falls Church (and five others) must be a huge financial blow to the diocese. They may sell or rent the properties back (as Chas suggests) just due to the inability to afford the upkeep on the buildings. That would actually be kinda nice since so many parishioners are used to the property, which is huge and absolutely beautiful.
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You make a good point Buzzy. For years I got around the liberal-ness of the Episcopal church by making my tithe out to the Priest’s Descretionary Fund.
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Why would you want to rent a building from the same people that took building from you?
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sorry should read
Why would you want to rent a building from the same people that took THE building from you?
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Pastor Roy, because they were the primary $upporter$ of the building and property for decades, not to mention sweat equity.
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Louise – If they were buying the building is one thing but renting from a Group that you just broke away from?
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I understand your point Roy, and don’t know the best solution right now. Maybe the better settlement would allow them to rent it if they want to. My DIL works with the wife of one of the pastors. Everything is still pretty much up in the air right now.
I think Kim told us she’s content with the building her “new” church is using.
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To see Christians (so-called in some cases) fighting openly in civil court is a disgrace.
The Episcopal Church should sell them the buildings for a nominal fee.
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Louise – the Christian’s are trying to do the right thing but the Episcopal Church has decided to punish them for doing the right thing.
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Pastor Roy – the congregation is used to the building, and it is a beautiful property, located right in downtown Farifax. Therefore, I would think if they could get a reasonable deal on renting it, they’d do it, and not let spite enter into the equation. As with most things in life, it also depends on whether they have any alternatives that would be better, in terms of size, location, and price.
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Pastor Roy, it is hard to leave a place where you were confirmed, your child was Christened, and your memories are. It is hard to have worked on raising money for the building fund, to have helped landscape, to have so many of your Christmases and Easters in a place and then have a court order tell you it isn’t yours any more? How would you feel about being evicted from your home?
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Buzzy – I understand what you are saying but do they honestly want to deal with the same people. Who have just dragged you to court.
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Kim – I understand but what choices do they have, work with a group people that have left God and His Son. That just took everything from you. What the Episcopal Church is counting on is that the people will surrender and just stay at the Church.
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Pastor Roy – as I said, I don’t think spite will figure into the equation. A landlord-tenant relationship is vastly different than the prior relationship. Again, if the property is desired by the congregation and they can get a reasonable rental price, I don’t see why not. The location is perfect, the property is gorgeous, and it’s what the parishioners are used to.
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Pastor Roy – as I said, I don’t think spite will figure into the equation
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Buzzy, I wish I could support you statement but we have seen just how spiteful the Episcopal Church Leadership is.
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Also there are those who did not leave the Episcopal Church and Leadership. Who want the church to stay under the Episcopal Church control and a Pastor who is going to preach and support the false teaching being promoted by the Episcopal Leadership.
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Pastor Roy – I interpreted your comment to by, why would the conservative congregation want to rent from the diocese? That was why I said I don’t think the congregation was going to foreclose that option out of spite. I didn’t say anything about the diocese refusing to rent to them out of spite. That could occur, but when the diocese is in financial straits and wants to keep ownership of its building, it will have to find some solution. If renting to their former congregation is the best solution, I doubt they’d refuse to do so over spite. In the end, economic motivations usually trump animus-based motivations.
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In the end, economic motivations usually trump animus-based motivations.
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That is true but sad, when it should be God that is directing us.
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I agree with Kyle — sell for a nominal fee and prove your a Christian in some way even if you can’t read the Bible.
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My prayer go out to those who have taken the stand for God’s Word and face the evil. They may have lost their building but God Will provide.
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I have no doubt, how could any one of us, that God is definitley working His will in this. Trust in Him and patience over anguish and spiteful feelings will survive. Amen.
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