Middle East expert blames ‘Islamic thugs’ for Syrian violence
With the escalation of fighting in the Syrian city of Homs, area pastors are also reporting a significant uptick in the number of Christian deaths, targeted killings, and kidnappings.
According to those sources, Islamic militants fighting the regime of President Bashar al-Assad have killed more than 200 Christians in the city of nearly 1 million in recent days, including entire families with young children. They also have kidnapped Christians and demanded ransom payments. Some have been released, but in at least two cases in Homs the bodies of the kidnapped men were found after ransom had been paid.
“What we are hearing firsthand is the exact opposite of what’s being reported in Western media,” said Victor Atallah, director of Middle East Reformed Fellowship based in Cyprus. “Most Syrians are most frightened of an Islamic takeover in Syria and are fleeing not from the government but from Islamic thugs from all over.” Atallah said he had received reports of fighters in the Homs area from Lebanon, western Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Afghanistan, and Saudi Arabia.
Throughout the now 11-month-old Syrian uprising, Homs has been a magnet for Islamic militants and a lightning rod in the conflict between rebels who want to overthrow the government and the army of the Assad regime. The city, Syria’s third largest behind the capital city of Damascus and Aleppo, is an industrial center situated 100 miles north of the capital along a corridor of surface trade with Lebanon and shipping ports. Sixty years ago Homs was nearly half Christian, but church members now make up only a little more than 10 percent of the population. Christians in the area are mostly Orthodox, but there is a historic Catholic church in the city center, Armenian congregations, and a sizeable Presbyterian church, as well as others in the immediate, surrounding area. … COMPLETE STORY >>

















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back to top36 Comments to “Middle East expert blames ‘Islamic thugs’ for Syrian violence”
The media refuse to report this because it shows again the Mr. Obama is supporting Islamic thugs
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Thank you for this report. As regions descend into anarchy, thugs will certainly take advantage of the situation, and since Islam teaches that Christians are lower-class, such thugs will target them first. Prayers for our fellow believers in Syria.
I noticed that even the quoted expert was stationed in Cyprus. There are journalists who have managed to get untethered access to information in Syria, and their assessment is that the country is at a stalemate: http://www.cbc.ca/dispatches/news-promo/2012/01/17/from-inside-syria-evans-assesses-the-state-of-the-conflict/
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Speaking of thugs. This from Drudge.
Congress needs to defund these guys today.
(CNSNews.com) – A top Muslim Brotherhood official has warned that any cuts in U.S. aid to Egypt could affect Cairo’s peace treaty with Israel – the latest sign that Egypt’s emerging political forces intend to call Washington’s bluff over the diplomatic dispute triggered by a crackdown on non-governmental organizations.
Egyptian judges have referred 16 Americans and 27 others linked to NGOs for trial, accusing them of using foreign funds to encourage disruptive protests. Among the targeted NGOs whose assets and funds have been seized are the U.S. government-funded International Republican Institute and National Democratic Institute.
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In judging the opposition to Assad and how the Christian minority is positioned, we must remember that the Assad regime derives its power base from the Alawite minority, and like the Iraqi regime it is largely secular. The Christians in both Iraq and Syria beneifted from both regimes and were often involved in the highest echelons of government. Furthermore, Christians occupied the same position as Jews did in medieval Europe. They provide services that Islam forbids its adherents to either provide or consume such as interest based banking and alchohol. Hence, many Christians have hitched their future with the Assad regime, gained wealth and influence and are now suffering the consquences.
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The world today does not recall a man named Saddegh Ghotzbzadeh. He helped bring Khomeini to power. He even briefly served as the Khomeini govt spokesman at the time of Abolhassan Banisadr. Banisadr was the little Iranian man who resembled Groucho Marx.
Ghotzbzadeh was a big agitator advocate for bringing down the Shah.
And Ghotzbzadeh was one of the “founding fathers” executed by the Iranian regime.
The Syrian rebel movemt will probably kill lotsa folks.
The Khomeini govt executed more Iranians in two weeks than the shah did in the previous 30 years combined.
Sometimes you are better with the devil you know vs the devil you don’t know as Iranians and soon Syrians will learn
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Bashar AlAssad was not the annointed son. He had a big brother who died in a car wreck. Basil was quite popular. Bashar went to England and was educated as an opththalmologist. He cannot see how Syrians no longer want or need a hereditary dictatorship
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Islamic Thugs?
That’s silly. The Thugs were Hindu worshippers of the goddess Kali.
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I love how HRW justifies the killing of Christian’s. Just because they are in the minority and had some type of protection from the evils of the muslim faith. but now like in Egypt and other nation’s were those protection are no longer in place it is KILLING SEASON because the Muslim are carring out their faith.
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HRW @4: I think that is part of the problem. However, I have actually heard a former MB member speak, and he was quite clear that the MB’s goal as Islamic purists is to eliminate other religions from their respective countries. So it is a combination of fanatical purges, targeted resentment towards government favoured and lawlessness which is endangering the Christian population.
It is also important to note, that some of these Syrian Christians are nominal, it being the religion that they are born into, rather than a personal conviction.
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Some of you are taking a who-knows-what’s-true situation and turning it into a Pro-Assad (supports terrorist, hates Israel) rally just because someone has spun the situation as an Islamic war is a classic East v. West. No one knows what’s going on, and you’re all dangerously close to soundly like fools.
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So, HRW, is that your justification for kidnapping and killing Christians?
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As we see in Egypt the group coming to power is worst then the person they drove from Office, We see it also in Libya. Now the question is which evil men do you want in power in Syria.. An if a Civil War breaks out where will it spread to?
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And Phos, too — they’re nominal, no biggie, get rid of them. Perfectly understandable.
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About 2 months old >> http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/israeli-officials-say-assad-is-doomed/2011/12/14/gIQAYBuEuO_story.html
Good read on the subject.
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That’s a stupid game you’re playing, NJL.
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Syria is backed by Iran and it is one of the major roads for weapons going to Hezbollah in Lebanon. Which they control the Nation.
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“As we see in Egypt the group coming to power is worst then the person they drove from Office…”
The issue is addressed by Israeli officials in the Washington Post article. They are optimistic but stress that how Assad goes is as important as that he go. The military command in Syria has to stay stable.
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It was my gut reaction, Redwal.
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the problem like in Egypt removing the man in power does nothing but opens the door for more extreme groups to come to power.
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NJL: That was completely uneccessary. A discussion on the causes of this violence in no way means that either of us supports the killing of Christians. We are simply trying to examine the issue from all angles. And an acknowledgement that Christians may be being perceived as government supporters of a corrupt regime is important. As I Peter 3:17 says, it is important that we suffer for well-doing, not for evil doing.
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Well comment 15 was my gut reaction. Sometimes our guts are less good at spotting fallacies than our heads. And I don’t think that accusing other posters of minimizing violence against innocent people is a false equivalence and completely without intellectual merit.
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As long as we suffer?
Both posts left me with the feeling that I just have to understand why they are being kidnapped and killed. Here it is, over 60 years later, and I doubt you would tell a Jew that they just have to understand why the Nazis did what they did.
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NJLawyer – I asked the same question at 8. It seems that when it comes to the killing of Christian in the world people seem to find a way to justify it.
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Israel is in a very bad place here. Egypt that was helping to protect Israel leader feel and the Group coming to power has direct tires to Hamas and Iran.
Now with Syria fallen, which group will take control of it?
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I don’t think HRW was justifying or asking you to understand violence against anyone. I think he was explaining reasons for why we should be cautious to jump to conclusions without all the facts. The suggestion, as I read it, is that what we are hearing could be heat not light. And that some highly influential Christians might be motivated to spin the truth to preserve their high station.
But…
Understanding and justification…
Nazi Germany and the present day…
…two more false equivalences.
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Both Redwal and Phos provide clues to my post that may clear up the misunderstanding. Middle Eastern Christians are often nominal in the sense that its a way of avoiding gov’t mandated behavior for Muslims (sometimes its more convenient for business to be Christian). Religion also marks the tribe or clan a family belongs to. And thus, religious persecution can be used to appeal to foreign groups as an attempt to gain sympathy for a particular political or family group. As Redwal points out, its hard to decipher what is true and what is spin as some highly placed Christians try to maintain their place in the regime. And yes I don’t doubt there is some persecution occurring as the Sunni majority fight against the Alawites and their Christian supporters.
All of this is even more clear in Lebanon. Each tribal and factional group in Lebanon is symbolized by its religious label; religion is part of the subculture.
And in Lebanon (esp Beruit) declaring oneself Christian allows one to escape the rules of Islam. My Lebanese students admit that its not uncommon for Muslim young people to sneak to Christian neighborhoods, take off the hajib and party at the dance bar until morning.
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I disagree, and I think there’s no difference between the Nazis and the Muslims on this one, except that the Muslims aren’t using train tracks. Jews played a part in German and European society, too. They were still exterminated.
You think your “reasoning” is any different than the collaborators in France or those in Washington who deliberately avoided the issue? How soon we forget.
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#23 — I agree, Pastor Roy.
But the people who see it as the cost of doing business disagree.
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Dead is dead, but you keep deciphering.
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Moral equivalence undermines the God-given logic of individuals and the strength of superior governments. All ideas are not equal.
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But the people who see it as the cost of doing business disagree.
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As I read on these sites all the time. It is ok to kill Christians, or remove them from using schools, or restrict our speech. to them it is the cost of doing business
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The Mideast’s progressive modernizers have been brutal dictators to varying degree. I do not equate Mubarak with Saddam but you get the idea. Meanwhile those who overthrow the tyrants wind up making the deposed Presidents for Life (or Shah) seem absolutely mild by comparison
The Lebanon govt is to Syria what Cuba was to the USSR. The Lebanese govt cannot even muster a voice to condemn the brutal Assad response.
Some while back I recall seeing a favorable article about the stylishly western Syrian “First Lady”. It was NY Times magazine and they now have egg on their faces for being such suck ups
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Sawgunner – Far worse than the NY Times fluff piece on the Syrian “First Lady” was our Secretary of State’s statement:
“There’s a different leader in Syria now [different from his father]. Many of the members of Congress of both parties who have gone to Syria in recent months have said they believe he’s a reformer.”
–Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton, on “Face the Nation,” March 27, 2011
Even the Washington Post couldn’t swallow that one.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/hillary-clintons-uncredible-statement-on-syria/2011/04/01/AFWPEYaC_blog.html
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I’ll admit I haven’t covered the Syria thing as closely as I should, but the coverage I’ve seen sure paints the Assad government in a terrible light.
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HRW #26: That is why Saudi Arabia took it one step further and set up the United Arab Emirates. It allows them to have a playground in their backyard since alcohol, pornography, The Bible, etc., are not allowed in “The Kingdom”. I saw it first hand after the first Gulf War. Wealthy Saudis and would go to the UAE to party since it was illegal back home.
I suppose we are all hypocrits to one degree or another.
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Dubai – the vegas of the arab world.
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